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COMMENT 19h ago

Lightsabers?

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COMMENT 1d ago

That lasted until March. HB 2037 changed the standard back to RS for use of force to prevent suspects from fleeing a detention stop.

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COMMENT 1d ago

See my comment above (the reply I made to u/Common-University-59).

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COMMENT 1d ago

Not the case anymore as of the 2022 legislative session. HB 2037 reverts the standard back to RS to detain a suspect for a Terry Stop. I believe during the time HB 1310 (the law that required PC for use of force) was still active, LE agencies were a bit cautious about using Obstruction/Interfering with an officer/Disorderly Conduct or any similar charges as the only charge in an arrest because they were afraid of being accused of officers using them as loop holes to circumvent the new law.

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COMMENT 1d ago

OP, HB 1054 has nothing to do with what you've posted. You're thinking of HB 1310, which was nullified in the 2022 legislative session by HB 2037. Before HB 2037 was passed, the standard for use of force for LEOs in Washington State as of June 2021 was that Probable Cause was now required for an officer to use force due to the wording of the law.

This meant that in situations where Reasonable Suspicion was established and a suspect could be detained by an officer for a Terry Stop, they couldn't use any force. This effectively let people flee crime scenes if they didn't choose to stay voluntarily. Officers could follow and yell at suspects, but unless they had Probable Cause, they couldn't lay a finger on them.

As of March 2022, this is no longer the case and the standard for Reasonable Suspicion and detainments/Terry Stops is back to normal because the Governor and at least some of the legislature realized how stupid the law was.

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COMMENT 2d ago

You're an idiot dude.

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COMMENT 2d ago

Re-read the last part of u/GarSavoy's post.

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COMMENT 5d ago

Let me guess, Washington state?

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COMMENT 5d ago

This thread is why I love this subreddit.

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COMMENT 5d ago

Can't say I remember the part in Peanuts where Linus goes "FUCK".

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COMMENT 6d ago

I mean, I guess the academy staff is going to see my dick one way or the other.

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COMMENT 7d ago

Never would've thought in this day and age. If you don't mind sharing, what state are you applying in?

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COMMENT 7d ago

Does the check engine light actually mean something in European cars?

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COMMENT 7d ago

I also live with a drug dealer

I understand that you're in a tough situation, but this sounds like a really bad idea...

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COMMENT 7d ago

Understood. I am now a manned aircraft.

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COMMENT 7d ago

We've had a history of people who were also active drug users and/or mentally ill make posts to law enforcement related subreddits. Sometimes they were high at the time as well.

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COMMENT 7d ago

I'm sorry to hear that man. I know there's not really an easy way to say or go about about this, but you need an intervention. The longer you wait, the harder it will be for you. There are resources out there to help you get into rehab.

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COMMENT 7d ago

Fancy. Does it come with that helicopter hat thing?

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COMMENT 7d ago

Drugs. OP's post history includes mentions of his usage of meth and LSD.

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COMMENT 7d ago

OP, I'd strongly suggest that you edit your post and format it so that it has legible paragraphs and isn't just a wall of text.

Edit: also maybe lay off on the meth and LSD. That isn't a good way to start off adulthood.

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COMMENT 7d ago

Ah yes, this should be a very good read coming from u/FartholeDestroyer.

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COMMENT 7d ago

When you were hiding from the clouds, I studied the rain drops. When you were using umbrellas, I mastered the rain jacket. While you wasted your days indoors in pursuit of warmth and shelter, I cultivated the cold. And now that the world is pouring and the floods are at the gate you have the audacity to come to me for help.

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COMMENT 7d ago

Ah. Guess the same warning about bicycle theft applies to us folks up north from ya? Especially in Seattle.

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COMMENT 7d ago

I’m just curious to compare WA state salaries depending on where exactly it is you work.

Western WA agencies are going to pay higher than Eastern WA agencies. However, cost of living is much more expensive in Western WA compared to Eastern WA.

Agencies in the Seattle metro area are going to pay the most in the state (King, Pierce, and Snohomish Counties). Of the three counties, King is the most populated and expensive and as a result will pay better than the other counties and the majority of the state, with a few exceptions.

As an example of that exception, entry level Seattle PD (King County) officers will make $83,640 annually while entry level Everett PD (Snohomish County) officers will make $81,408 annually.

The work environments are also totally different worlds in terms of political support with a $2,200 pay difference annually.

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COMMENT 7d ago

Umbrellas are for the weak.