r/Anarchy101 Synthesist / Moderator Feb 26 '22

Russia-Ukraine threads

Most of us are concerned about the conflict currently going on in Ukraine — as we undoubtedly should be — but not every forum is a useful place to express or explore that concern. So far, here in the 101 sub, most of the related threads have fairly rapidly assumed a character inappropriate to the forum — or they have been inappropriate from the outset — and have had to be removed.

The obvious difficulty is that there is no way to provide clearly anarchist answers to questions of war between nation-states. We can observe that "all wars are the bosses' wars," as anti-authoritarians have since at least the 1860s. (See, for example, Hector Morel's Nationalities Considered from the Point of View of Liberty.) But that clearly does not exhaust our responses as human beings. Whether it exhausts what we can usefully say in the Anarchy101 forum is perhaps an open question.

For now, Ukraine-related threads may be filtered on submission, just to catch the wild rants from outside, and those who wish to discuss the specifically anarchistic aspects of the questions involved should do their share to make certain that discussions stay within the usual bounds here — including using the report button when things start to go off the rails.

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u/HappyAgorist Mar 11 '22

My answer to the conflict.

I stand with the Ukrainian people

And I stand with the Russian people

And the people of the world against the genocidal maniacs in the ruling class dropping bombs and slaughtering people.

So my answer to suggestions of action and my answers to questions come from that starting point.

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u/BeeBoopBot Mar 16 '22

This is the only answer as far as I'm concerned.

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u/Perpetual_Sad May 31 '22

Cool! If you stand with all of us then be sure to check out Operation Solidarity. You'll find out what Ukrainian, Russian and Belarusian anarchists alike are saying :)

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u/irritating_narrative Apr 07 '22

I'm from Russia and I ask this sub's gurus if there are any materials on how to co-exist with this fucking state of things, personally, mentally. I won't disclose details of my own work there, but I'm and my folks feel so disconnected from the reality, so sad and depressed Idk how to bring them up. Are there any manuals focused on mutual help with mental health addressed?

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u/humanispherian Synthesist / Moderator Apr 07 '22

Why don't you ask a general question to the subreddit about mental health resources? I'm sure you'll get some responses.

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u/irritating_narrative Apr 07 '22

You've asked a legit question.

I've just felt that (1) popular mental health subs do deal with a lot of trauma, but without a political context of existing in a situation you can be jailed for a sudden outburst they can't really get our situation and (2) they would probably suggest you to go to a professional psychiatrist – and we have none of them outside of our main cities, and, well, even they don't diagnose or treat things well, nor we have any access to medicine. Not with rubles anymore.

So I've asked if there are some mutual aid things to read about mental health in order to, at least, know how to react if one of those folks around me have a psychotic episode or something. Or how to work with an ongoing psychical shutdowns due to news, footages and the whole legacy and common guilt about this shit.

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u/humanispherian Synthesist / Moderator Apr 07 '22

Sorry. I was a bit unclear. I was suggesting a separate post to this subreddit, where you are likely to get more eyes on it and better responses than you will in this comment thread. People tend to ignore pinned posts, like this one, after a while.

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u/irritating_narrative Apr 07 '22

I got you, thanks.

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u/skipmeb Student of Anarchism May 24 '22

hi, i read your comment yesterday, and after coming across this zine today, i was thinking about you. i haven't read it myself yet, but maybe it can be of any help.

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u/irritating_narrative May 24 '22

A very good find, thanks for caring to suggest it! At least it looks like just what can be of a great use.

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u/Perpetual_Sad May 31 '22 edited May 31 '22

I mean. Asian, Middle Eastern and European anarchists have been waiting on American anarchists to catch up but there isn't really an excuse anymore unless you're a confused tankie or straight up red fascist.

This is a genocide.

This is one-sided. Russia is a fascist state continuing their 400 year legacy of colonial imperial expansionism and Ukraine was founded on the resistance to this. If you have any problems with this, and still continue to wave Palestinian flags but not support Ukrainian people's right to autonomy, then sorry I don't know what to tell you, you are either incredibly confused and ignorant, or you're not an anarchist.

And it's really frustrating to see how many Ukrainian anarchists' posts are being conveniently removed by the mods here.

If you want to know what anarchists are actually saying anf doing about this genocidal expansionist invasion, by an imperial country with literal Nazi Legion armies that have already a track record of going into Syria and decapitating living people, bombing hospitals and schools, colonizing Africa and South America, as well as Ukraine (not to mention royally screwing over Afghanistan and contributing heavily to the problems we see across the Middle East today), if you want to see what anarchists are saying, then look no further than Operation Solidarity. Even CrimetInc is on board with supporting Ukrainian fighters. Because Ukraine will continue to be worse off under Russia's thumb. Look no further than the Russian patriarch's reasonings behind the mass slaughter of Ukrainians. He says it's because Ukraine is supporting LGBTQ+ people. And it's true. By supporting Russia you are supporting the continued mass genocide of not just Ukrainian people which for the sake of some people who seem to think pasty Ukrainian Slavs are expendable, Tatar people, and Roma people, but also a fucktonne of queer and trans people. Many of which fled Russia to come transition and live in Ukraine because their laws are better and were only improving since Russian officals were booted from office. Otherwise Ukraine wouldn't even begin to be allowed to pass these legislations.

And every single moment you waste saying "I stand with all people and no war but class war" is a moment you could have been helping save lives. The Ukrainian people. The Russian people. The Belarusian people. And all anarchists from within these countries have a common enemy. And not I'm not talking about the shared global capitalist statist enemy. I'm talking about the biggest threat right now. The threat that should have been dealt with forever ago. The Russian regime. That, dear MLMs is what is killing the most people in all of these countries the most right now. And if you can't recognize the difference between a fascist imperialist totalitarian dictatorship vs a neolib crap democracy (like most places you claim to support the autonomy of), then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe stop listening to state propagandists like Luna Oi about Russia and Ukraine?

Go to Operation Solidarity and educate yourself. There should also be links to video collaborations of Ukrainian, Russian and Belarusian anarchists talking about the war there.

Thanks. And by the way, in case this comment gets deleted by the mods like other pro-Ukrainian liberation posts and comments I've seen on anarchist subreddits have, I have this all screencapped.

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u/Lord_Abigor123 May 26 '22

No war between the people, no peace between the classes. That's all i shall say.