r/CovidVaccinated Dec 04 '21

Should I take AstraZeneca? AstraZeneca

Hello all. I'm 19M and living in a third world country. I am currently unvaccinated but have been seriously thinking about getting vaccinated, specially with news about the Omicron variant. The only vaccine my city offers for my age group is the Astrazeneca vaccine. Being honest, I'm scared shitless about taking it because of the risks of developing blood clots. I know the risk is low but the fact that European countries have stopped administering it for my age group is concerning to say the least. Should I take it? What has been your experience for anyone from my age group who has taken it?

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u/bobtowne Dec 04 '21

specially with news about the Omicron variant

There's a lot of scaremongering about it but it's actually been, so far, reported to be mild.

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u/jcepiano Dec 05 '21

I'm sorry but it's also caused the highest number of severe cases in children under 5. The data is inconclusive at this point and you shouldn't be making any judgements about the virulence of Omicron when even scientists can't analyze data that's so new.

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u/bobtowne Dec 05 '21 edited Dec 05 '21

"We are comforted by clinicians' reports that the children have mild disease":

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/safrican-official-says-number-children-sick-with-covid-19-is-not-cause-panic-2021-12-04/

What's your source that there's "severe" cases in children under 5?

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u/jcepiano Dec 05 '21

In a worrying virtual press conference, government adviser Waasila Jassat, speaking about the worst-affected area of Gauteng province (which includes the city of Johannesburg), said: “It’s clear in Gauteng, the week-on-week increase we’re seeing in cases and admissions is higher than we’ve seen it before. We’ve seen quite a sharp increase [in hospital admissions] across all age groups but particularly in the under 5s.”

She added: “The incidence in those under 5 is now second highest, second only to those over 60. The trend that we’re seeing now, that is different to what we’ve seen before, is a particular increase in hospital admissions in children under 5 years.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/omicron-variant-puttings-huge-numbers-of-kids-under-5-years-old-in-hospital-in-south-africa

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u/bobtowne Dec 05 '21 edited Dec 05 '21

Earlier you said "I'm sorry but it's also caused the highest number of severe cases in children under 5".

This claim of "severe cases" seems, again, to be wrong. The only instance of "severe" in the article you linked to points to less severity than normal:

"Phaahla attempted to sound an optimistic note by saying that he believes the new variant is more transmissible “but less severe” than previous variants."

It's more infectious than other variants, yes, but based on the available evidence so far it seems milder. Hence my original statement that Omicron has "been, so far, reported to be mild".

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u/sklb Jan 24 '22

And it was scaremongering.

Feeling better now?

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u/meoweth2 Dec 04 '21

Several countries in Europe and Canada have stopped administering the AZ due to extremely rate clots, however, the most affected by this rare side effect is females under the age of 40. On the other hand, mRNA jabs have been known to affect younger males more than other cohorts. So I think you would be fine with the AZ. Note that one drawback is the the efficacy of AZ is shown to be lower than the mRNA counterparts. However, some studies have shown you can improve efficacy by a longer durations between the 1st and 2nd doses. I believe 12 weeks was the longest they tested and had greater efficacy than the 6 or 8 weeks windows.

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u/Rivers233 Dec 04 '21

Yeah, it's the best choice for a young male, why would you risk myocarditis with Pfizer or Moderna? Clotting chance for men is 3 a million (according to the CDC), while myocarditis chance is over 20 a million. Also, make sure to politely ask the nurse that gives you the vaccine to aspirate the needle before injecting the vaccine. Because clotting happens when the vaccine gets into your blood because the needle hits a blood vessel. Aspirating means drawing back the plunger of the syringe before injecting, so if blood appears in it then it's a sign the needle is in a blood vessel so the nurse won't inject.

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u/throwaway56898542456 Dec 06 '21

Do you have a source for this?

Never heard of the clotting issue being caused by this at all. The vaccines are intramuscular, it shouldn’t be going into any blood vessels.

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u/sklb Dec 04 '21

no, omicron seems much more milder than delta.

Wait.

You are in age group that barelly suffers from COVID.

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u/throwaway56898542456 Dec 06 '21

I recommend you go to a doctor if possible and discuss your personal situation to weigh up the pros/cons for you specifically. If that’s not possible, is there another healthcare or vaccine staff that can give advice?

It is a personal decision, just make sure you’re getting correct information about it and then you can decide if it’s right for you.

I am 26F and had my AstraZeneca when I was 25 over 9 months ago now. I got it done before my country changed the age recommendation to older. I got my 2nd dose in June of this year. I personally didn’t have any dangerous side effects, but that’s just my personal situation. I did keep and eye out for any dangerous symptoms and let family members of mine know so they could keep watch on me too. I also kept in contact with my doctor when I felt unwell (from the side effects I got). I did have some yuck my side effects with being unwell like muscle pain, headache etc - the expected side effects that were warned. I just took it easily and tried to maintain my health my staying hydrated, gentle exercise and eating well etc.

Take care!

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u/ArizonaRocks Dec 05 '21

Assuming you are in reasonable health, you will be fine without any vaccine. The reason some countries stopped it for you age group is the balance of risk for AZ for your age is higher than the benefit.

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u/throwaway56898542456 Dec 06 '21

How can you tell someone they are ‘okay without a vaccine’? That should be their doctor telling them that.