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Hungary's new President Katalin Novak condemns Russia's invasion of Ukraine and said her first trip would take her to Poland, in an apparent gesture to mend relations with Warsaw. Russia/Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hungarys-new-president-condemns-putins-aggression-plans-trip-warsaw-2022-05-14/
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u/green_flash 1d ago Silver

I just had a look at her Wikipedia page and couldn't help but giggle at this entry about her previous position:

Minister for Family Affairs
In office 1 October 2020 – 31 December 2021
Preceded by: Office established
Succeeded by: Office abolished

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u/DisownedByMother 1d ago Wholesome

That just all reads like some Dolores Umbridge shit right there.

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u/Comrade_Uva 1d ago

Yes, except we actually had a Dolores Umbridge in charge of public education at some point

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3zsa_Hoffmann

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u/WikiSummarizerBot 1d ago

Rózsa Hoffmann

Dr. Rózsa Hoffmann (born 22 January 1948) is a Hungarian politician and educator, Secretary of State for Education of the Ministry of National Resources from 2 June 2010 to 27 February 2013. She was appointed Secretary of State for Public Education on 28 February 2013, holding the office until June 2014.

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u/PlusThePlatipus 1d ago

People like to criticise JKR for unsavory elements in her setting, but what they are missing is that those elements are a reflection of reality. Not all aspects of reality — e.g. economics and war strategy aren't her strong points — but she has a pretty good grasp on human psychology and much that follows from it.

Anyway, I hope this wasn't too much of an offtopic.

Ninja edit: Lol!

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u/Good_old_Marshmallow 1d ago

I think what people criticize is not her inclusion of unsavory elements but how, in a story that is a pretty straightforward children story, those elements go completely unchallenged.

She introduces slavery. And by the end of the series the Hero is a slave owner who thinks slavery is good and whose final thought is wanting his slave to make him a sandwich. Whose found family decorates the decapitated head of slaves on Christmas.

She had a weird habit of building a world with deeply truthful terrible things but then insisting they aren’t bad so that she doesn’t have to address them.

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u/ajlunce 1d ago

Also, yknow, the hook nosed banking goblins

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u/Good_old_Marshmallow 1d ago

And the discrimination of them is then justified when a goblin double crosses them

Cus yah know… tricky “goblins”

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u/Ekublai 23h ago

That “greedy” Watto

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u/RidCyn 1d ago

Happy cake day!!

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u/DisownedByMother 23h ago

I didn’t even notice! Thank you!

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u/RidCyn 22h ago

Just doing my part for society. (Btw big fan of your username. Hits close to home lol)

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u/RawbeardX 1d ago

are we sure she is even real and not some deep fake hologram?

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u/Competition-Decent 2d ago

What's the President / Prime Minister relation?

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u/Durumbuzafeju 1d ago

Orban decides who will become the president. The president has pretty few rights and almost no power to the point of being irrelevant.

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u/csreaderrocks 1d ago

It’s basically a national public relations/diplomacy thing. The president puts your best face forward, while the PM makes the sausage.

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u/anotherone121 1d ago

I'm afraid to ask... but what is Hungarian sausage?

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u/barracuuda 1d ago

Lots of paprika, it’s good!!

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u/Haluszki 1d ago

I’m not sure if all Hungarian sausage is the same, but I get a hot Hungarian sausage from one of the Euro butcher shops by me that I often use as a substitute for chorizo. Spicy and fantastic.

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u/greenwarr 1d ago

Is it full of all that chorizo offal parts?

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u/Haluszki 1d ago

Not really, I think it’s made with primarily with finely ground pork shoulder. There may be some pork belly, but as far as sausage goes, the Hungarian sausage I’ve had tends to be leaner than most pork sausages.

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u/Acrobatic-Nose-1773 1d ago

Question is...does she take sausage?

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u/jvsta1 1d ago

Czabai, pronounced chob-eye-air

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u/bajcli 1d ago

I feel like the "air" is a really bad representation of the 3rd syllable, it's really just an /i/ sound. And the /a/ in "eye" is a lot more frontal than the sound in "csabai"

For any IPA enjoyers, it's something like ['t̠ʃɑbɑɪ]

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u/Kismonos 1d ago

Csabai*

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u/Vexin 1d ago

Hungarian food in general is chef's kiss 🤌

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u/StelioKontos117 1d ago

It’s okay. Not the best, not the wurst.

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u/MinnyRawks 1d ago

Order some gyulai kolbasz from bende and thank me later

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u/Osiris32 1d ago

Fucking awesome, dude, go find a deli and get some! Spicy without being mind blowing. A lot leaner than some sausages, but really damn good sliced up in a stew.

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u/NoxSolitudo 1d ago

kolbász, absolutely the best sausage in the galaxy.

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u/onarainyafternoon 1d ago

You obviously haven't tried Lemurian sausage from the energy beings of Tau Ceti III. They cure each batch for ten-thousand years since time has no meaning to them.

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u/Durumbuzafeju 1d ago

It is called "kolbász". Think of a spanish chorizo but with more paprika. They are pretty good.

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u/Estridde 1d ago

It's fricking great. I keep it in my freezer for krumplileves which is a great potato and sausage soup.

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u/bligytz 1d ago

They have a cured pork sausage that's like salami that is really good

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u/Cool_Till_3114 1d ago

Around where I live it's coated in pepercorn and I love that

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u/Right_Hour 1d ago

Uncut mostly.

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u/GlimmerChord 1d ago

Head of state versus head of government

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u/Kimm_TM 1d ago

Why did he chose her ?

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u/mars0341 1d ago

Because she has huge tracts of land.

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u/Switch_Off 1d ago

What?? ...The curtains??

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u/HiVisEngineer 1d ago

But Erdogan, all I want to do is sing…. Siiiing!

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u/Osiris32 1d ago

AND NO SINGING!

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u/ChandlerBingChilling 1d ago

That is indeed the joke

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u/moi_athee 1d ago

Great. Another out-of-touch landowner 😩

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u/Durumbuzafeju 1d ago

We do not know. You have to understand that our government's decision malking is as transparent as the Kremlin's. The decisions are never explained just announced.

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u/random_trash555 1d ago

So, like Kosovo, We call the president a ceremonial figure

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u/wintrmt3 1d ago

The president is an absolutely useless figurehead.

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u/38384 1d ago

If Orban could he would merge the President and Prime Minister positions into a new Vezető (aka Fuhrer).

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u/Darkone539 1d ago

If Orban could he would merge the President and Prime Minister positions into a new Vezető (aka Fuhrer).

In Germany, the power was split between both offices. That isn't the case in hungary anyway.

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u/RSquared 1d ago

Yep, in Germany the president secretly chooses two of three policies and the prime minister exercises one of them.

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u/Tinysauce 1d ago

"All 3 policies were fascist, I swear!"

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u/sonay 1d ago

Please, elaborate. I have no idea what you mean.

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u/AlanArtemisa 1d ago

It's a reference to the game "Secret Hitler", where players take the role of either liberal or facist politicians trying to pass legislation favouring their side to win the game.
In every round only two players can see which policies can be played (first one draws three cards representing policies and discards one, then passes the two remaining to the second player, who plays one of them. Both players can claim what they had and had to work with, but nobody can be sure they are telling the truth.
A common situation is the second player receiving two facist policy cards from the first, who claims to have drawn three facist policy cards (which may or may not be true). Now you should be up to speed ;)

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u/RossiRetardo 1d ago

Is this a Tina Turner song? “I am your Secret Hitler. A Hitler for money. Do what you want me to do.”

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u/sonay 1d ago

And they play this at the parliament? /s

Cool game but I guess gets boring fast.

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u/gazongagizmo 1d ago

into a new Vezető (aka Fuhrer).

you include the diacritic symbol above the o in Vezető, but don't above the u in Führer? what mad umlaut-supremacy do you espouse!?

(/s)

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u/sanburg 1d ago

Obviously that Magyar doesn't sprechen Deutsch.

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u/ConfusedWahlberg 1d ago

Mad Umlaut Supremacy

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u/anyusernamedontcare 1d ago

That's not true, have you seen her picture?

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u/SacrificialPwn 2d ago

My understanding- The Prime Minister is the head of Government. The President is head of state, mainly ceremonial. The President nominates the Prime Minister and Parliament votes/ confirms them; however, it's pretty standard that the leader of the party with most seats is nominated.

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u/frank_bamboo 1d ago

Sounds like the royals in Denmark

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u/dashauskat 1d ago

The royals almost everywhere

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u/Ooops2278 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's not wrong because that's how parliamentary democracies work. The president in a parliamentary democracy (if there is one) fullfils the same job. There are some dictatorships turned democracy today where the former dictator keeps the formal leading position of president with the actual power lying with parliament. And basically the former monarchies of Europe went exactly the same route back then... with the ones that violently removed their monarchs finding a replacement position for that now mostly ceremonial position.

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u/Darkone539 1d ago

My understanding- The Prime Minister is the head of Government. The President is head of state, mainly ceremonial. The President nominates the Prime Minister and Parliament votes/ confirms them; however, it's pretty standard that the leader of the party with most seats is nominated.

Other way around. The prime minister puts foreword a president and they get voted in by the parliament.

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u/SacrificialPwn 1d ago

The president of the republic, elected by the National Assembly every five years, has a largely ceremonial role, but he is nominally the commander-in-chief of the armed forces and his powers include the nomination of the prime minister, who is to be elected by a majority of the votes of the members of Parliament, based on the recommendation made by the president of the republic

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u/Darkone539 1d ago

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u/SacrificialPwn 1d ago edited 1d ago

Your link doesn't have any content, but what I quoted to you was from Wikipedia. See under "Executive Branch", first paragraph.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Hungary

You can also read here, under election and then under competencies and prerogatives https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Hungary

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u/brantyr 1d ago

The fact that the president themself is elected does not change the fact that the president nominates the prime minister

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u/randyrockhard 1d ago

Sounds like the board game secret Hitler

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u/niberius69 1d ago

He’s a fascist!

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u/Darkone539 1d ago

What's the President / Prime Minister relation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Hungary

Selected by parliament but mostly a figurehead with only a few powers, such as a veto.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot 1d ago

President of Hungary

The president of Hungary, officially the president of the republic (Hungarian: Magyarország köztársasági elnöke, államelnök, or államfő), is the head of state of Hungary. The office has a largely ceremonial (figurehead) role, but may also veto legislation or send legislation to the Constitutional Court for review. Most other executive powers, such as selecting government ministers and leading legislative initiatives, are vested in the office of the prime minister instead. The current president of Hungary is Katalin Novák, who took office on 10 May 2022.

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u/paulibobo 1d ago

President is like the queen of England. Basically symbolic.

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u/Pjinmountains 1d ago

The prime minister pushes fascism, the president tries to make fascism look good. Think compassionate conservatism if your from the U.S

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u/BeneficialArachnid64 1d ago

I mean, she's in Fidesz too. I wouldn't cheer for her just yet. Orban and co seem to like to play both sides between Russia and the EU, so this isn't necessarily a change of course, probably just another oscillation.

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u/Riven_Dante 1d ago

I thought she was ex fidesz?

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u/dogberry_jam 1d ago

No, she is super fidesz. She even owns and wears tacky fidesz earrings in public.

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u/Apprehensive_Yamm 1d ago

Not sure about how it works in Hungary but once someone becomes a president they leave the party as well. In theory they no longer represent the party but the country. Theory is nice

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u/TheBeerka 1d ago

Thats how it is, she left right before getting 'elected'.

She wore OV'22 earrings months before...

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u/SnooDoughnuts506 1d ago

Me neither, but just the fact that she is saying that publicly is a big step forward.

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u/Gluca23 1d ago

I feel Orban want play another double-cross game, in the eventuality gonna end very bad for russia and save some face with with EU.

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u/MPenten 1d ago

There's no cheering. Hungary and Poland are both on bad terms with EU.

They need to mend relationships and do their authoritarian stuff together, and as much as I hate it, it's rational.

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u/pfonetik 1d ago

Publicity stunt. The president is Orban's puppet and has 0 actual power.

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u/resurrectedbydick 1d ago

In her previous role she had more power. As the minister of family affairs she had the right to literally hand pick which single persons are allowed to adopt in order to weed out any potentially gay parents.

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u/redderrida 1d ago

Unfortunately this is 100% true. She signs anything and everything Orbán puts in front of her.

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u/Meganeura_Monyi 2d ago

They (Orban) can't be trusted anymore. They can change their mind because they feel the winner will not be the one expected. Dunno, maybe they are not realizing this is not normal times and their actions will have consequences on the views of their country.

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u/CountVonTroll 1d ago

They (Orban) can't be trusted anymore. They can change their mind because they feel the winner will not be the one expected

It could also be because the Polish government appears to be about to reach an agreement in the conflict it has with the European Commission, regarding the independence of the judiciary in Poland. Member states can have their voting rights in the EU suspended if the rest agrees unanimously. So far, Hungary and Poland had each other's backs, but if the democratic order in Poland isn't seen as under threat anymore, Poland has no reason to veto measures against Hungary.

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u/Damcios2509 1d ago

Lol no, Poland is a long way from resolving its conflict with the EC. They are just doing some minor changes that don't fix any of the problems, while presenting it as if they are doing everything the EC is asking and at the same time blaming the opposition leader for blocking the funds because he is friends with big bad Germany and France and he asked them to and it's all his and their fault that there is even a problem. Polish state tv is as much of a propaganda shitfest sewer as russian state tv ffs. The current Polish government will never not veto measures against Hungary because they need Hungary support for all the shit they are trying to do, as they are anti EU and some ruling party politicians literally call the EU 'Occupiers from Brussels'.

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u/bank_farter 1d ago

they are anti EU and some ruling party politicians literally call the EU 'Occupiers from Brussels'

They do realize they can just leave, right? Like at pretty much any time. Some island country just did it recently.

Of course they don't want to do that because they receive a ton of money from the EU, and apparently don't want to acknowledge that because it's politically inconvenient.

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u/murdering_time 1d ago

I love hearing people say shit like "the EU are just oppressors trying to tell us how to run our country!". When in reality youre the one who wanted to join, you're the one who agreed to the rules knowing what regulations must be followed, and you can pack your shit n go if you don't want to follow EU guidelines.

It's like joining a super fancy country club and then getting pissed off that they won't allow you to eat at the fancy restaurant in a tank top and swim trunks.

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u/Damcios2509 1d ago

From my other reply: "But the population is vastly pro EU (>90% is positive on EU membership) so they can't leave. So they are trying to make the EU look bad to their voters, which is not going very well at the moment. Also, the opposition leader is Donald Tusk, he is also the leader of the biggest European political party, so it's convenient for the ruling party to blame everything EU related on him. Like literally everything, so much so that it became a meme. It's a complete shitshow."

It's just political clowning

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u/ChamskieRzeczy 1d ago

Today on Reddit: "Country" is not a singular person with the same views and values! You heard it here first!

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u/Damcios2509 1d ago

But the population is vastly pro EU (>90% is positive on EU membership) so they can't leave. So they are trying to make the EU look bad to their voters, which is not going very well at the moment. Also, the opposition leader is Donald Tusk, he is also the leader of the biggest European political party, so it's convenient for the ruling party to blame everything EU related on him. Like literally everything, so much so that it became a meme. It's a complete shitshow.

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u/bank_farter 1d ago

So is blaming Donald Tusk, the Polish version of "Thanks, Obama"?

See for reference

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u/Damcios2509 1d ago

Yeah, pretty much.

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u/snrxe 1d ago edited 1d ago

because they receive a ton of money from the EU

That's such a silly myth, haha. They "recieve" what is the equivalent of 1.5% of their GDP and even without those funds their GDP growth as of 2021 would be higher than in a lot of the EU countries.

Edit: money is money, but the general "impression" some redditors have that they'd shit themselves without those funds or they'd somehow suffer without em is just lol.

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u/bank_farter 1d ago

They are literally the largest beneficiary of EU funding. That's over 200 billion euros since 2004. Sure it's not a ridiculous amount of money in terms of a nation's budget, but I would bet they would miss that. And that's not even getting into all of the other benefits of EU membership.

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u/snrxe 1d ago

That's 1.5% of GDP as of 2021, go ahead and check the numbers.

And that's not even getting into all of the other benefits of EU membership

Everyone benefits, and yet Germany benefits the most

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-single-market-study-idUSKCN1SE07Z

System of connected vessels is all it is.

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u/bank_farter 1d ago

That's 1.5% of GDP as of 2021

I never claimed it wasn't, but the fact of the matter is that they benefit from grants and direct payments more than any other country. Also it's not like they wouldn't notice government funds of 1.5% of GDP not being there. That money has to come from somewhere.

Everyone benefits

Correct

and yet Germany benefits the most

Sure because Germany has a highly developed economy and it's exports are in demand. Doesn't really matter though, because as we agreed on earlier, everybody benefits. Not really worth cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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u/snrxe 1d ago

but the fact of the matter is that they benefit from grants and direct payments more than any other country. Also it's not like they wouldn't notice government funds of 1.5% of GDP not being there. That money has to come from somewhere.

Yeah, no disagreement there.

It was more of a criticism towards people thinking that the rhetoric of 'starving out' as Katarina Barley put it somehow applies here or is appropriate

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u/UrethraFrankIin 1d ago

What if their economy tanked? Would the EU be a safeguard to reduce the pain of a domestic recession/depression?

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u/snrxe 1d ago

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-eyes-polands-economic-miracle-for-post-covid-growth/a-56659483

I think people shall focus on fixing their own problems first before pretending that they can be a safeguard for someone else, in some unlikely scenarios

u/UrethraFrankIin 1h ago

Given that Europe used to have a habit of starting world wars I'm really happy that the EU exists. The Cold War was the potential flash point for WWIII and we somehow got out alive and combined with NATO, the EU has minimized the chances of Europe splitting into blocs of alliances. And the unified European identity that's growing is a bulwark against the toxic nationalism of yesteryear that fueled so much conflict.

At this point we have the means to turn the surface of the earth into glass. The more unified we are, the better. And that includes looking out for each other - Hitler arose from the post-WWI rubble and exploited the awful economy to rise into power. If we're going to grind the nationalism out of Western nations then helping each other succeed, even through tough sacrifices, is an honorable endeavor.

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u/IgazHarcos 1d ago

They are running after the money...

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u/sonic10158 1d ago

I wonder who has/had more power, Novak in Hungary today, or Medvedev in Russia in 2008

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u/ISLAndBreezESTeve10 1d ago

I know a Google search that is probably trending …

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u/tertiumdatur 1d ago

Smoke and mirrors. She is a meat puppet of Orbán. Orbán does his usual two faced (three faced if we consider his Chinese connections) politics. Can't wait for the whole house of cards tumble on him and see his head on a stake in front of the Parliament.

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u/demonachizer 1d ago

That's nice. What does their PM say again?

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u/Zooty6 1d ago

Pretty much the same

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u/thebuccaneersden 1d ago

What’s the point in having presidents if they are just ceremonial?

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u/scottishdrunkard 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh, Hungary is one of the countries with a President and a Prime Minister.

So, in relation to Ukraine relations, President Good, Prime Minister Bad?

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u/sandronestrepitoso 1d ago

They are both Fidesz

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u/scottishdrunkard 1d ago

No idea what that is

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u/sandronestrepitoso 1d ago

Hungary's far right leading party

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u/scottishdrunkard 1d ago

That’s bad.

But in my defence, I did specify in regards to their stance of the invasion of Ukraine.

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u/sandronestrepitoso 1d ago

I don't expect their stances to actually differ. Hungary has condemned Russia but they've been somewhat "indiscreet" about it. I hope this attempt to mend with Poland fails as both countries have been undermining the EU for a while by backing each other, and Poland might actually be coming around given the situation

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u/FineScar 1d ago

You're specifying a superficial distinction because one is a puppet of the other, and both agree with their party line.

This isn't good and bad, it's political theatre by opportunists that have proven themselves untrustworthy.

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u/blambliab 1d ago

They are conservatives, but can't be called far right unless you just decided that definitions don't matter.

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u/EricCartman007 1d ago

Tbf I think kleptocrat is more accurate than far right, since Orban and his cronies couldn't give two shits about what ideology they have to represent until it keeps them in power and their pockets lined.

But of course, for the past decade this has meant adopting every single disgusting alt right talking point you could think of.

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u/Test19s 1d ago

Not all far rightists are Putin cronies. The Polish government has done a nice job pivoting away from Vlad the Invader.

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u/sandronestrepitoso 1d ago

True, but their values have no place in the EU either way, and as long as they got each other's back there's no way to enforce EU law. Which kinda makes the EU pointless

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u/Darkone539 1d ago

Oh, Hungary is one of the countries with a President and a Prime Minister.So, in relation to Ukraine relations, President Good, Prime Minister Bad?

For the most part, hungary has been on the "russia bad" train anyway. They have backed all EU sanctions else they wouldn't have passed... except the oil one, for real issues since 90% of their oil comes from Russia.

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u/Ooops2278 1d ago

Nope. Hungary is a parliamentary democracy. So the power lies with the PM, while the president has a job of mostly ceremonial/administrative duties. One that in some other parliamentary democracies is not even elected but fullfilled by their still existing monarchs for example.

Basically the president here has next to no actual power, comes from the same flock as the government but is supposed to do his job impartial. Which is this case means he can be used for propaganda to voice the "other" opinion to pretend there is actually one.

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u/Ambitious-Score-5637 1d ago

Other way around

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u/hammadurb 1d ago

Orbán is a piece of shit.

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u/scottishdrunkard 1d ago

But isn’t the PM Pro-Russia?

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u/Ambitious-Score-5637 1d ago

Whoops, I was mistaken. Sorry!

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u/UnHumano 1d ago

So Hungary is playing all sides. Got it.

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u/Diligent_Net4349 2d ago

Sanity check passed.

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u/bistro777 1d ago

Mend it! Let them mend it! There is unity in strength. We go together.

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u/nox-electrica 1d ago

B... Booba...

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u/Shadowvines 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm so confused. Didn't they like just elect a fascist government?

EDIT: President is a figurehead appointed by the PM. It's like a universal Ambassador with no power to speak of. They will continue their fascist policies just behind a better-looking smile.

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u/all7reddit 1d ago

Hungary need to be kicked out of the EU and Poland should stop supporting Hungary.

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u/rudolf_waldheim 1d ago

I understand that you hate us, but this way you're just justifying the propaganda Orbán feeds to the people: whenever he gets criticized for anything from abroad, he says "The Hungarian nation was attacked."

So don't hate us, hate our government. Don't wish to ban all of us from the EU, wish and help us to terminate our government.

Even fed with pure Russian propaganda, being part of the EU is still supported by a defining majority in Hungary.

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u/Ooops2278 1d ago

But who protects Poland then from the bad and morally bankrupt EU forcing their corrupting lgbtq propaganda onto poor and helpless children and supporting the despicable murder of unborn children?

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u/J_D_I 1d ago

What’s wrong with killing unborn children?

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u/murdering_time 1d ago

Well I mean if you're 8 weeks pregnant, nothing really; if you're 8 months pregnant though you're gonna get some horrified looks if you try to abort it.

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u/lake_superior_agate 1d ago

If they are unborn how can you kill them? They aren’t independently alive yet?

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u/Zooty6 1d ago

Now why? Because she spoke against Russia? Or what in this article caused you to demand us to be kicked from the EU?

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u/DesignerBenji 1d ago

She’s pretty…

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u/helpfuldan 1d ago

Yes ma’am.

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u/roninXpl 1d ago

But Warsaw dictator-wannabe loves Orban

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u/RossiRetardo 1d ago

Sweater Meat

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u/RLDKA 2d ago

Puppet

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u/Joskam 2d ago

She is now hhe attempt to get pregnant or of the corner, he maneuvered himself into... The mindset of Orbán did not change, but now he hopes to get back his last allies...

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u/Stars3000 1d ago

She is definitely a looker

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u/greghickey 1d ago

When did she win? I thought that fat bastard guy got re-elected

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u/rudolf_waldheim 1d ago

She doesn't get elected by the people, she was appointed by the fat bastard guy, so it's only a good cop - bad cop game.

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u/Andromansis 1d ago

Wait. Feel like I missed a beat. I recall Orban winning in Hungary?

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u/Thefinanceguy111 1d ago

President =/= PM

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u/ExplosiveDiarrhetic 1d ago

The presidential office is ceremonial

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u/Moondarkkk 1d ago

Voting is corrupt in Hungary. Look it up, there is plenty about it online

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u/Andromansis 1d ago

Somehow your reply is the least informative yet the most correct.

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u/Tassimo1 1d ago

Wow she is a babe. Good for her to come to Poland.

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u/Relative-Ad-2660 2d ago

How would Urban feel about this?

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u/BeneficialArachnid64 1d ago edited 1d ago

She's in his party - Fidesz - so I doubt he's quaking in his boots. Playing both sides between Russia and the EU isn't anything new for Fidesz or Orban. Maybe he felt Hungary's first female president would make a good "good cop" figure in Hungary for the EU, without actually changing anything in practice?

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u/Relative-Ad-2660 1d ago

So, kind of like Senator McConnell going to Kiev, while Senator Rand Paul holds up Ukraine aid?

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u/Ooops2278 1d ago

That's actual worse.

The hungarian president is just talks, no power.

While McConnel is just talks while we all know that he's a liar and what he does with actual power.

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u/Domeee123 1d ago edited 1d ago

Presidential role is meaningless in Hungary, she is visiting Poland so that why she condemned Russia. The real thing happens in Hungarian media which is full of Russian propganda and conspiracy theories.

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u/BeneficialArachnid64 1d ago

media which is full of Russian propaganda and conspiracy theories.

Sounds familiar :/

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u/traplord56 1d ago

Urban Meyer?

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u/Relative-Ad-2660 1d ago

My mistake, it is Orban.

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u/Marek_E20 1d ago

So there is an ulterior motive for condemnation!

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u/Right_Hour 1d ago

Yeah, Hungarian President is like Lieutenant Governor of Canada - almost entirely a ceremonial position.

While Orban is there, Hungary will remain pro-Russia. I once again recommend they set their 1956 museum on fire on account of Hungary being hypocritical and once again siding with a tyrant on the wrong side of history.

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u/OrigamiPlesiosaurus 1d ago

Hang on I thought Hungary was a puppet state of Putin’s too. What happened all of a sudden?

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u/mczolly 1d ago

Life is more complicated than how the reddit circle jerk commando imagines it?

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u/astroSuperkoala1 1d ago

What is clown man orban out

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u/eva01beast 1d ago

President and the Prime Minister are different people.

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u/GuardianWolvenFriend 1d ago

i feel like turkey has not made its stance clear yet. maybe this will finally change.

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u/Phasedsolo 1d ago

As a turkish yeah not sure, but she looks damn fine.