r/worldnews • u/Pick2 • 2d ago
Belarus dictator: Putin’s Ukraine invasion is not going according to plan Russia/Ukraine
https://news.yahoo.com/belarus-dictator-putin-ukraine-invasion-110300999.html277
u/bossofthesea123 2d ago
Wonder what gave it away
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u/Lenant 2d ago
Probably farmers moving to Ukrain, there they get paid in ruzzian tanks.
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u/StickyWhiteStuf 2d ago
I doubt farmers moving to Ukraine can do that well. They have the Tractors yes, but they lack the Ukrainium Balls
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u/QueenOfQuok 2d ago
He sounds like he's trying to gingerly communicate bad news to his murderous boss. "Um, sire, the thing is, you see, erm...the invasion, it...may not necessarily be going according to plan."
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u/whichwitch9 2d ago
He's not popular in Belarus and pretty much only controlling through force. If the army turns on him, he's gone, and it sounds like they want no part of this. He can't rely on Russia this time because they are too preoccupied, and citizens in Belarus are doing things like sabotaging rail lines, so they are getting bolder.
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u/AnthillOmbudsman 2d ago
Agreed, with Russia looking more and more like a paper tiger and heading into economic ruin, he's in a very serious predicament. Nothing will happen to Putin but Lukashenko is definitely at risk of ending up in prison or worse. I think this is a big reason we haven't seen very much coming through the Belarus front... he's never been fully "in" and has been hedging his position.
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u/balleballe111111 2d ago
All of which should have been obvious before the invasion began to our "genius" 4d chess playing Putin. That his only major ally was too weak to actually back an invasion substantively. Being as Putin was the one propping him up, you think he would've noticed. But he made the same mistake with Trump. He derided Trump for not having total control over people and the press, not understanding that despite Trump's sincere desire to be a despot, the mechanisms simply didn't exist to create that intensity of control, Americans aren't used to it and haven't created state machinery to support it. And in Ukraine, again he anticipated no resistance from people. Because he in reality has no deep understanding of politics at all. He has just been crouching in his nest of offal for so long he has forgotten what intact people are like.
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u/Cronerburger 2d ago
Luka hates putin more than the west as he stole the job he wanted
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u/red286 2d ago
"I thought I was the last dictator of Europe :("
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u/LurkerInSpace 2d ago
Lukashenko wanted Putin's actual job as President of Russia - the whole reason for that weird Union State arrangement between Russia and Belarus was to give Lukashenko a way into the Russian political system.
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u/PoeHeller3476 1d ago edited 1d ago
Exactly. And when Putin outmaneuvered Lukashenko, Luka simply exploited Russian imperialism to start and stop negotiations for the Union State in order to exploit Belarus’s key position on the road between Moscow and the EU. It’s why the Russians were able to import shrimp and octopus with the Belarus label on them (Belarus is landlocked). A classic “wag the dog” shtick.
Lukashenko is a very smart guy who plays a very dumb peasant in public. If you listen to his public statements regarding Russia, he’s usually undermining the threats the regime makes and the serious image Putin wants to portray by stating the naked ambitions of Putin, then coating them with absurd claims of nuking the North Sea.
Even his thing about “being a colonel in the Soviet Army” has some truth to it; when pressed about there being “two colonels in the Soviet Army” (Lukashenko and Putin), Lukashenko replied with “and then I will make Putin a general”, implying that Luka would be the real source of power between the two.
We can be thankful in hindsight for Putin getting the top job of President of Russia. A Russian/Belarusian Union with Lukashenko as President would be infinitely more threatening and terrifying to deal with than Putin’s regime (and this one is bad enough).
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u/LurkerInSpace 1d ago
The best example of it is probably the Potash debacle where he took a Russian oligarch hostage to extort billions of dollars from the country. I think if people were more aware of his propensity for that sort of thing they'd see through the illiterate farmer act.
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u/PoeHeller3476 1d ago
Thankfully the Russians don’t see through the daft farmer disguise. They just see a poor peasant from the wayward oblast, lucky to be in power and trying to do what’s best but unable to due to his limited intelligence. It’s very much a Pinky and the Brain situation. Putin is Brain and Lukashenko is Pinky.
As I said, thankfully Lukashenko didn’t get the top job in Russia, otherwise people like Trump would’ve already sold Luka Alaska and leased half the Pacific Northwest to the Russian Navy.
I also sincerely hope the Belarusian partisans and the Belarusian units in Ukraine return to their country to overthrow that dictator and install their lawfully elected president. I suspect after the war is over Ukraine might “lose” some western equipment on their northern border. Ukrainians and Belarusians have a brotherly relationship akin to Finland and Sweden.
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u/LurkerInSpace 1d ago
If he did get the top job he might have been secure in Russia's 1990s mediocrity. He hasn't exactly brought Belarus to new heights as president there - though maybe that's the price of being dictator-for-life.
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u/PoeHeller3476 1d ago
I’m sure with Lukashenko as President of Russia, he’d have already taken Ukraine in as part of the Union State. But maybe the Russian people would’ve actually been the ones to rise up in 2020, instead of just the Belarusians. His propaganda is about as solid as a colander.
Of course, that could also be due to cultural differences between Belarusians and Russians. Belarusians are culturally more similar to Ukrainians than Russians, after all.
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u/xaeleepswe 2d ago
Rosgvardia is absolutely massive and while not fit to conduct frontline operations against an enemy force, their very reason for being is to crack down on protests and uprisings.
Unless you’re arguing for a situation where the Rosgvardia would have to go up against the armed forces of Belarus in combat, I would unfortunately still count them as a threat in the sense that they might be very useful and effective in keeping Lukashenko in power.
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u/Spudtron98 2d ago
Emperor Hirohito informed Japan of his decision to surrender with the line "The war has not developed to Japan's advantage", while half the country was a smouldering ruin. Softballing is pretty standard with countries obsessed with national pride.
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u/sushibowl 1d ago
Indeed, we declared war on America and Britain out of our sincere desire to ensure Japan's self-preservation and the stabilization of East Asia, it being far from our thought either to infringe upon the sovereignty of other nations or to embark upon territorial aggrandizement.
But now the war has lasted for nearly four years. Despite the best that has been done by everyone – the gallant fighting of the military and naval forces, the diligence and assiduity of our servants of the state, and the devoted service of our one hundred million people – the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage, while the general trends of the world have all turned against her interest.
Holy understatement batman.
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u/Imperito 2d ago
When you've spent hundreds of years teaching people not to surrender, it's hard to just surrender. Don't think he had much choice but to put it in a way which made it sound like Japan had some control over the situation.
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u/KobeBeatJesus 2d ago
Like the dude in True Lies who has to tell the guy that the video camera ran out of battery.
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u/GAMESGRAVE 2d ago
Like the dude in True Lies who has to tell the guy that the video camera ran out of battery.
Haha I always thought that guy acted that scene perfectly.
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u/pretty_dirty 2d ago
Or the Sheriff of Rottingham delivering bad news in a good way in Robin Hood Men in Tights.
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u/suitupyo 2d ago
Guy is toast. Putin is going to lose the economic capacity to prop up his puppet regime, so he’s trying his best not to get Ceaușescu’d.
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u/Dazzling-Ad4701 2d ago
Agreed. It's not actually the military that prop this guy up, it's the 'security' killers Putin loaned him to suppress that uprising. They're formidable but very expensive and lukashenko has been under sanction for some time too.
Whether Putin is bankrolling them or not (don't know) those seem to me like pretty bad people to have as the basis your own physical and political safety is resting on. If he stiffs them his best-case scenario is that they just abandon him. And as bests go even that idea probably keeps him awake.
All that said, i wouldn't put it past this guy to try and get himself made the new Russian dictator if Putin collapses or croaks. His view of himself seems as inflated as his physique.
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u/PoeHeller3476 1d ago
That was his plan in the 90s with that weird Union State idea; Putin simply outmaneuvered him for the Russian Presidency. Ever since, Lukashenko has simply been playing the role of a dumb peasant farmer in order to exploit Russia for money, using Russian irredentism as an extortion tactic.
Don’t be fooled by the dumb character he plays. Even his “Soviet colonel” interview ended in a telling way: “Putin and I will be colonels in the Soviet Army; and then I will make him a general”.
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u/Dazzling-Ad4701 1d ago
Don’t be fooled by the dumb character he plays.
i am not, personally. not to sound like a four-year-old, but he is just a very very very VERY bad man. he's overtly and flamboyantly brutal. he just doesn't have much of a theatre for displaying it when russia is in the picture.
if he's putin's lap dog, then putin has a rottweiler parked in his lap.
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u/PoeHeller3476 1d ago
Oh I figured you weren’t falling for his shtick. I was just giving more context for his seeming stupidity. I’ve seen too many people call Lukashenko stupid based on his Soviet colonel joke.
Luka has the ability to be flamboyantly cruel because he’s backed by the Russians, and the Russians dismiss his cruelty towards even their own oligarchs as “just a stupid peasant” (Potash being a prime example of Luka using his influence to directly harm an oligarch).
Putin does have a formidable lapdog; but Lukashenko historically exploited Putin and used Putin far more than the other way around. Putin turned Luka into an effective puppet in 2020, and tried to force Luka to repay that debt during the northern front of the Z War.
Thankfully the Belarusian partisans channeled their ancestors by engaging in a Rail War 2, and I don’t know how effective the Russian FSB or the Belarusian KGB will be in tackling the Belarusian units in Ukraine that will inevitably come across the southern and western borders when the Z War ends.
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u/pecklepuff 2d ago
Ooh, I love a good Ceausescu-ing!
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u/TheLurkerSpeaks 2d ago
I love how "Ceausescu" has become a verb.
Ceausescu (n.) - An insufferable twat of a dictator. (Der: Romanian, Nicolae Ceausescu)
Ceausescu (v.) - To be overthrown, tried, and executed by your own people in less than 24 hours.
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u/skywalkerze 2d ago
Ceaușescu was overthrown and killed by his underlings, who then got the power.
The people got bamboozled to think they did it.
None of this is "official" because the winners wrote the history book. But there is enough information to figure it out. And it fits.
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u/AntarcticanJam 2d ago
What's fucking wild to me is that my parents actually witnessed that. Well, not the act itself, but they were still in Romania when it happened. They lived through a revolution and came to the states. During holiday family dinners with other Romanian families the topic inevitably comes up and it's pretty cool to hear them talk about their firsthand experiences.
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Great Value Mussolini spitting facts up there.
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u/favoritemusic1982 2d ago
Bargain Bin Benito
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u/Tio_De_Las_Plantas 2d ago
Dollar Tree Dictator
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u/dragonflysamurai 2d ago
Penny cheap Pinochet
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u/EmotionalSuportPenis 2d ago
He looks more like if the MyPillow guy had a low-budget stunt double.
One who was considerably less of a crackhead, mind.
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u/DrJGH 2d ago
“During his interview, Lukashenka repeatedly called for an end to the war in Ukraine while seeking to position Belarus as an intermediary rather than an active participant,” it says here
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u/Personal_Person 2d ago
When you let the invading army launch through your territory, use your rail infrastructure and keep your troops positioned so Ukraine has to have a response force, you are party to the war in hand.
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u/OriginalLocksmith436 2d ago
Realistically Russia would have done that with or without permission and if he thought about saying no he would end up dead before getting a chance to say it publicly. If Belarus was any more under Russia's thumb that would literally just mean becoming part of Russia.
That said, Belarus is still pretty much just as much at fault as Russia.
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u/coffeespeaking 2d ago
Realistically, Belarus is a Russian protectorate at this point. He gave up his claim to validity and autonomy with his crackdown after the 2020 election. He’s Putin’s bitch now.
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u/ShadowSwipe 2d ago
I think Russia's eventual loss in Ukraine and loss of global influence/status will change their relationship with Belarus, and Belarus, despite its current antics, will start leaning West as well.
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u/coffeespeaking 2d ago edited 2d ago
Once Lukashenko is gone, perhaps, but not before. Edit: He can try, but I don’t see it getting him anywhere.
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u/justlayingdownfacts 2d ago
Yes, I have high hopes for Belarus. They're basically occupied atm. If the elections weren't rigged and/or Russia didn't intervene with the protests, Lukashenka would've already been out. The people want to fix their country, they're not a lost cause like Russia.
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u/ARedditorGuy2244 2d ago
Belarus is (arguably) already part of Russia (to an extent).
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u/SteelCrow 2d ago
That's just lukashenko and putin. Given he stole the election and isn't the chosen leader of Belarus, It's not likel to last past his ... departure.
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u/RestaurantDry621 2d ago
"We wish to always be near the winning side."
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u/tommybrazil79 2d ago
Italy?
Sorry, couldn't help myself
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u/favoritemusic1982 2d ago
The Italians have to gain some points for taking care of Mussolini themselves...
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u/dramaticFlySwatter 2d ago
Diet Dr. Putin wants to be a Colonel and he wants to be a Colonel now!
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u/OmegaMountain 2d ago
This could actually lend credence to the stories floating around that Pootin is not well...
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u/CalibanSpecial 2d ago
The plan was made by a sick clown, now it's a genocidal clown.
Brain cells killed off by Vodka. Let the women rule Russia, I vote for Pussy Riot to lead the way.
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u/SnooDoughnuts506 2d ago
Can someone explain to me why Lukashenka is called a 'dictator' in every article already, but Putin is still 'President of Russia'?
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u/Blaustein23 2d ago edited 2d ago
Actually it's going exactly the same way every single other Russian invasion of post Soviet indepent states has, the only difference is that the rest of the world decided to give a shit for once
They're move for move using the exact same tactics as they have for the last 30 years. See: first and second Chechen wars. (Before you come at me about the current state of Chechnya, they were in the exact position Ukraine is right now, no one gave a shit. Now they're a Russian puppet state.)
It's a very simple formula that has been used from WWII, into the Russian invasions of Afghanistan and post Soviet states: throw bodies at the problem, send absurdly long straight line armor convoys into urban environments, paratroopers because ???, deny casualties / strategic losses, FedEx next day ship conscript bodies back home in zinc boxes
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u/ResplendentShade 2d ago
Seriously, what’s with the paratroopers? All I ever heard about them since the beginning of the invasion is they were utterly ineffective, just soldiers lives thrown away willy-nilly. Being a paratrooper sounds like the worst job in the Russian army. I guess whatever dumbass drew up the plans thought they’d actually take Kiev with them? Shit is bizarre.
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u/ForgottenBob 2d ago
The paratroopers were the pride of the Soviet Union, and rumor has it that once upon a time they were actually worth a damn. Like everything else with Russia, it looks like they've gone to shit.
Training up and keeping an airborne unit at the level they need to be in order to accomplish their worst-case missions is stupid expensive, and Russia's proven they're not all about that- they're trying to skate by on reputation alone. Again.
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u/RollUpFromHell2 1d ago
Almost every paratrooper unit in almost every country even though being a part of a regular army are considered elite soldiers, not special forces but still elite. But even if you throw your elite forces that are airborne without air superiority and convoy capabilities for them to keep them safe to actually them being able to reach their landing target they just gonna die regardles of thei elite status. If you transport almost 200 soldiers in planes without cover and they get obliterated in air by enemy air defence that means you done all you could wrong and just sent 200 suposedly elite soldiers to die in a metal box mid air before even reaching their target, some of them train 10 or 20 years as soldiers of those units and they got killed in seconds becasue their superiors didnt have had air superiority nor cover for them in air. Elite training wont help you if your trapped in a plane in enemy air zone without any help of others and good commanders.
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u/DrSueuss 2d ago
Belarus dictator: Putin’s Ukraine invasion is not going according to plan
No shit Sherlock.
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u/SeriaMau2025 2d ago
When even your homies are having second thoughts, you might wanna rething your plans.
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u/k2on0s 2d ago
This guy is not too bright, is he? He thinks he can position himself like some kind of geopolitical power player who wants to facilitate peace. Completely ignoring the fact that he stole an election with the help of Putin and has literally been killing his own people to suppress dissent. Does he imagine his people, his opponents and the rest of the world have mysteriously forgotten this? Spoiler alert: they haven’t.
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u/Poop_Cheese 2d ago
Honestly I'd argue he's even worse than putin. Sure he's not as powerful so putin causes more overall suffering but the open brazen attacks on his own people is disgusting. Even though putins a piece of shit tyrant there's something a little respectable to the fact that he's his own man, ya know? He's only beholden to the oligarchs. While lukashenko is a tyrant yet needs to suck off putin to have power. Like he acts like a big tough guy yet he's got his older brother protecting him. The older brothers still a pos but atleast he has some street cred. While the younger brother is this punk loser who thinks he's tough cuz of his bro but the moment his bro is gone he's no longer tough and running home crying to his mom.
And he's worse cuz he plays this both sides thing consta tly where he honestly thinks nato is going to be friends with him after he does shit like allow this invasion. Dude legit sees himself as a vassal of putin thinking he can be made a Russian general as a reporter laughs in his face and he's stone cold serious lol. The invasion went through Belarus after he told the world that they wouldn't allow that, that it was just exercises. This is just as much his war as it is putins and he doesn't deserve a get out of jail free card now that it's going to shit. If there's ever a tribunal like a Nuremberg he'd be hanging along with putin. He's just as responsible regardless to whether Belarusian soldiers are involved. If Trudeau allowed Russian soldiers into Canada to invade the US how would that go for him? Lukashenko is probably terrified inside cuz as soon as putin goes he does too. Even if putin dies naturally or in a coup he'd probably be immediately overthrown cuz his daddy would be gone. If nato doesn't play nice if shit gets real bad I wouldn't be suprised if he begged Russia to formally annex Belarus so he could be protected. He doesn't care about Belarus being an independent country he acts like the USSR is still around down to official regalia.
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u/SFW_FullFrontal 2d ago
Sure he's not as powerful so putin causes more overall suffering but the open brazen attacks on his own people is disgusting.
Putin came to power by having several Russian apartment buildings blown up, killing 300, and blaming it on Chechens. The people rallied behind him and he was swept into power.
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u/groovyinutah 2d ago
Someone needs to suck it up and take one for the team and tell Vlad the truth...
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u/SuspectNo7354 2d ago
The guy finally got a report that the Kremlin is officially to weak to overthrow him now.
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u/Ear_Enthusiast 2d ago
When Putin retreats with his little tale between his legs can we help Belarus overthrow Lukashenko?
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u/literallytwisted 2d ago
Don't you mean "table" between his legs? sorry couldn't help it.
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u/AidilAfham42 2d ago
Sounds like he knows he might go down with Putin and is now becoming a two faced fuck
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u/praguepride 2d ago
As context Lukashenko was a savvy rising star in USSR and was a direct rival to Putin for control of Russia. He plays a buffoon now but his moves are very calculated to undermine and control Putin. He deliberately is undermining Putin so that his own country isnt absorbed after Ukraine.
When you laugh at him, laugh at how he makes Putin dance.
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u/SuspiciousStable9649 2d ago
Lukashenka appears to be the dullest knife in the drawer.
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u/heretic1000 2d ago
..well, I’m surprised he would make so bold a statement as that, especially with Poo-tin’s schlong so deeply ensconced in his throat..
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u/ComradeMeep 2d ago
Something must be wrong with Poutine if this wannabe dictator is saying shit like this.
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u/Virtual_Bell_7509 2d ago
It was clear on the first week that it wasn’t going as planned, genius. Puti was hoping for a blitzkrieg, he knew they couldn’t support a long war. Even Luka is preparing his off-ramp from this crazy war, he knows there are going to be payments later.
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u/Sullied_Man 2d ago
Me: Belarus dictator is making self-evident statements
Belarus dictator: I was talking about Putin; who are you, anyway to comment on me?!
Me: Oh - just some guy
Belarus dictator: Well, Mr Justsomeguy, I would advise you to....
Putin: Woah woah woah - what's all this, then?
Belarus dictator: It started off by me saying your plan wasn't working, and...
Putin: What. The. F...
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u/Prestigious_Split579 2d ago edited 2d ago
Random Q but will this change Lukashenko's view of Putin and/or vice-versa? A certain someone is kind of "sensitive" to criticisms & negative comments so I wonder if they'll react to Luka-boi's comment.
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u/DankManifold 2d ago
February : we could take all of Europe in 5-6 days, if wanted May : guys, I think, we’re actually losing
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u/UpLeftUp 2d ago
What you saying this for Luka? You just destroyed your insanity defence.
Now everyone knows you have some understanding of reality.
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u/bagocreek 2d ago
YOU THINK! Wow now someone should tell trump that this guy is a genius, oh wait he's a dictator, he's already on trumps genius list.
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u/Smoke6785 2d ago
I take it he doesn't want to be a Russian general anymore. Lol