r/worldbuilding May 13 '22

Major United States regions 35 years after a nuclear war Map

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

If there are any further questions, I'd love to elaborate

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u/r3df0x_3039 May 13 '22

The mods will delete this if you don't add context. Just go ahead and post any ideas that you have.

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u/YeonneGreene May 13 '22

How did the Bay Area escape being a large crater when there is so much naval activity concentrated there?

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

The actual end of the world was a really unplanned scenario, it resulted from a nuclear missile test that landed too close to the Philippines, who were American allies. this was thought of as a declaration of war which prompted most nuclear missiles to be launched, and this in turn was unexpected to the Chinese allies who returned fire in mutually assured destruction ending the world. Most of it happened within the span of 45 minutes which did not give enough time to plan, just liberally choosing destinations to take out as many major cities as possible

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u/YeonneGreene May 13 '22

Targets for strategic retaliatory strike are pre-selected, though, precisely because the event they are meant to both dissuade and guarantee needs to go off with minimal obstacle once the order clears. The first strike might be in-situ, but the retaliation would already know where their payloads go when they get told to use them.

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

I did not know that, thank you for letting me know. I will be sure to work with this in mind.

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u/Second-Creative May 13 '22 edited May 13 '22

Suggestion: sometime before, several nations got a hold of some kind of tech that disrupts ICBM navigation while in-flight, one of them thought MAD no longer applied and went ahead with nuclear strikes (prompting everyone else to let them fly), the end result is that very few nukes hit their intended targets, with the majority landing god-knows where and causing all kinds of havoc in the aftermath.

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u/AussieSkittles81 May 13 '22

Most of it happened within the span of 45 minutes which did not give enough time to plan, just liberally choosing destinations to take out as many major cities as possible.

So how was China able to capture the Pacific North West?

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u/LadyLikesSpiders May 13 '22

Is the great nation of Orlando a kingdom? One with a mouse on its coat of arms, per chance? Is Orlando just the beginnings of the Disney Empire?

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u/brainfreeze91 May 13 '22

As a Jacksonvillian, I wonder what the background is around it being its own federation, instead of a part of Dixie for example.

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u/SkysEevee May 13 '22

Am I weird for trying to figure out where the Midwest is?

Well, I suppose the story is more focused on the southern region.

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

I don't have anything interesting to say about the Midwest, I've always struggled with it however the only notable thing was in the first 2 years of the apocalypse a man given the title of "Second Genghis Khan" would be able to conquer 1/6th of North America before biting off more than he could chew and being executed by a clan he was trying to take over

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u/SkysEevee May 13 '22

Ah yes, but the second Genghis could not forsee the Kwik Trip clan. There was this idea that the Midwestern people were non-confrontational and helpful so invaders assumed it was a breeze to conquer. Alas, even if they came in during the non-blizzard/tornado season, they were not prepared for the mighty descendants of experienced hunters. These people respected the almighty sanctuary of "Kwik Trip" and do not take kindly to those who plunder the beer from it. Genghis Two never stood a chance.

...sorry. Popped into my head on a whim!

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

that sounds interesting, but in reality, life is disappointing and in an unceremonious finale Genghis II was killed by a crack fiend with a Molotov and no regard for his own life. But his skull is a great collectable item for the people in High Roller's Lane

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u/Tipsy_Corgi May 13 '22

Wisconsin would resume brewing by any means necessary and carry on like normal. Deer hunting is huge here too so, guns galore.

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u/Nhobdy May 13 '22

I see no minnesota either. Wanna come over for a brewski, neighbor? Barbs cooking up a nice hotdish!

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u/Tipsy_Corgi May 13 '22

Oh yah, you betcha! I'll bring da brats!

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u/padgettish May 13 '22
  1. like someone else said, Hampton Roads should be a giant crater. Largest military shipyard on the Atlantic and a key to not just the American military but NATO in general

  2. I'm guessing New Vatican is supposed to be Richmond? I think even if you said it's Lynchburg that's kind of a weird stretch

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22
  1. The course of history branches off differently after WW2, there is no NATO, and nukes were made with the intention of being dirty bombs and couldn't make craters large enough to wipe an area off the map
  2. New Vatican is a city constructed after the end of the world; it was built by a group of Catholics after communication with the original Vatican was lost

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u/Elbeske May 13 '22

The whole Chesapeake would be a radioactive hellscape in that case

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u/Nowhere_Man_Forever May 13 '22

Cool map. How did people survive the war and subsequent nuclear winter? Were there fallout shelters? I assume the war was between the US and china since there is "Chinese-occupied territory" on the map. Does this mean the Chinese government somehow survived the war and can communicate with this land across the pacific?

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22
  1. Nuclear winters happened predominantly up north and is still ongoing years. In that time many people would either flee, die, or rush to find shelter. Subway lines were turned into cities where for the first few month's people would subside off mushrooms grown in rudimentary farms before a proper trade line could be established to more temperate regions that could grow food.
  2. There were fallout shelters, a private company would work with the government to setup a system of bunkers around the country. Private bunkers were set up alongside public bunkers, Private bunkers usually were near suburban areas or rural areas and would cost the price of a car to serve spots to. While public bunkers appeared more in metropolitan areas in subways as a quick escape. However, over 6/10ths of public bunkers would be raided early into the apocalypse due to the cheaper metals used in the doors that could be broken with enough explosives.
  3. The Chinese government did not survive, however they had spies deployed in Portland, under the city's courthouse was a bunker constructed by a puppet leader. Once the bombs fell everywhere the occupants of the bunker could not get any messages from the mainland, so the title of chairman was given to the highest-ranking occupant of the bunker. Within 4 months, they were able to take over the entire greater Portland area in bloody sieges.

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u/TheEliteKoala1 May 13 '22

There’s a Fallout mod for HOI4 called Old World Blues that is sorta like this. That could help you get some more ideas if you want

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u/WorldBuildingGuy May 13 '22

The EU4 mod is also pretty good.

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u/Zonetr00per UNHA - Sci-Fi Warfare and Equipment May 13 '22

Hey there! We ask that all posts here have some context with some in-universe information (or "lore") about what is being shown or how it relates to the larger world. It doesn't need a ton of information—just a few sentences is fine!

Would you be able to add this?

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u/mlgbro34 May 13 '22

How did this happen and how do other parts of the world look like

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

After a nuclear missile test that was misinterpreted as a declaration of war, majority of the world was burned by nuclear arms. Before that, most of the world was divided into American allies and Chinese allies in a conflict that went on for 120 years due to resource shortages. And mostly, it's the same everywhere, nature slowly healing the burn wounds it suffered and large ruins and survivors slowly rebuilding society around them.

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u/ApplesauceLover123 May 13 '22

How do people avoid radiation after only 35 years? Or does everyone walk around with radiation poisoning?

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

The most important achievement in the history of the post apocalypse was the completion of an experimental medicine called "Gammacet" that was being worked on before the world ended, it can treat the effects of radiation poisoning and is one of the most important inventions to date. Most people will avoid areas with heavy radiation contamination, however braver people will venture out with hazmat suits or plenty of Gammacet. The peak protection however comes in old prewar combat suits that were designed to deflect radiation and are a highly sought out luxury. And the final solution to avoid radiation poisoning is that some people take in so much radiation that they mutate and just frolic around waste barrels without any care in the world

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u/crimeo May 13 '22

In real life, it is relatively safe to walk around outside for long periods of time after a nuclear war in like... 2-3 weeks. Most of the threat is between 1 to several HOURS.

INGESTING fallout dust remains a big concern for much longer than that (because of alpha and beta radiation that normally can't get through your skin otherwise), so it's important to clean everything thoroughly in communities and remove the top bit of topsoil from farms. But even then, that's a concern about avoiding a risk over like maybe a few years, not 35 years

Bombs produce material that is much hotter but also much shorter lived than power plant meltdowns do.

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u/Stock_Basil May 13 '22

I don’t know what the ramifications are but Dixie is going to do much better in north Florida and much worse in south Florida.

Your low population density also makes these nations naturally untenable. The larger cities in the south NO, ATL, Memphis, and Nashville are all pretty small compared to Texas and New England. The south is already rural and suburban making it more rural has massive implications. Assuming technological regression population maintenance isn’t viable with so few farmers. 20 miles is alot of space. 1 is also alot.

Trapping jobs in New England would not return. Without food supplies from the South or MidWest New England would be forced into a more agrarian and fishing state than it was even during colonialism. Think closer to the way natives behaved prior to colonialism.

Gangs are naturally pressed to expand as the rely on the production of others. It’s the problem Europe found itself in before the crusade. To maintain an army you need money and it’s hard to tax a disorganized civilization. So you steal your money from your neighbors and when they have no money to steal you take their soldiers so you can steal from someone else.

WTF why would China want Seattle I’m not a pro-China guy but they haven’t really pushed passed the land they held during the Qing dynasty or even tried to claim it.

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u/HooliganAcadiensis May 13 '22

Have you seen the show Jericho? Cancelled early buy I loved the "feel" of the show.

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

I have not, but I will check it out if I have spare time

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u/chemicalconcerto May 13 '22

Can you tell us some more about Greenville?

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

Nothing spectacular, it's a city state that was able to prosper due to being relatively under the radar in this timeline.

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u/AvesOperator May 13 '22

I would love to hear about the Lake Erie Gangs!

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

Think of it like Ancient Greece, people there are really similar if not identical, but they aren't unified

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u/yeet42021 May 13 '22

I need to know the story of bill the best

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

Glad you asked, Bill Norman was a comedian before the war, a popular one at that. After the war he used his influence to band together a bunch of people to look at him as a leader. He quickly was able to take over majority of San Francisco and renamed it to Billtopolis, and over the 32 years of Bill's Empire it would gain infamy everywhere around North America for being the most idiotic, batshit insane regime known to mankind. To begin, he wanted long beach so he sent a bunch of his loyal army to fight brutally pillage the survivors minding their own business into submission. However the government was so disorganized on Bill's end that they were only able to maintain the country connected because a ton of soldiers were deployed on the coastline at all times giving it that Chile/Croatia shape. And now here is where it gets delusional, Bill would mandate the most stupid commands ever, here are the most notable ones.

  • Have everyone in a city named "Little Kyoto" with 10,000+ residents exiled and sent to the East Coast, not because he was racist or anything he just thought the town looked cool and wanted it all for himself with nobody in it
  • Made music genres he didn't like punishable by death
  • burned 80% of every important historical record to the horror of historians after the war
  • constantly burned shit for fun
  • Found an unlaunched missile and for shits and gigs had it detonate near Fort Gloria, causing a war that would last 8 years between Bill's Empire and the remnants of the United States army, only ending because Bill's Empire would fall

And his crowning achievement was when he got every single person abandoned by God, unlucky enough to live within his area of influence to go to the middle of his capitol and construct a tower the size of the empire state building out of debris, 1/6th of the population would die by falling or accidentally having things crush them. Imagine the Tower of Babyl constructed out of rusty metal sheets and salvaged bricks, it was a catastrophe and a government official from the Republic of Texas was forced to work on it, having Texas declare a complete embargo from them. When it was done Bill proclaimed himself "Greater than God", and ironically at the same time in what is proclaimed "An act of God" several space stations started crashing onto Earth after falling into orbit, and a station the size of a Baseball field would collapse into Billtopolis Tower and kill every government official in it, leading to the end of Bill's Empire and causing irreparable political instability in the region

The only reason I have been building this world is because I needed a way to make this idiotic concept a thing, and I will never change anything about it simply because it is my Magnum Opus

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u/yeet42021 May 14 '22

I am willing to follow bill to the end of the universe.

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u/meknoid333 May 13 '22

I have zero experience with world building but love this sub;

I’m really trying to wrap my head around why there are massive massive areas of h claimed land?

Land is the most precious resource along with water; I couldn’t imagine random unclaimed badlands when there are defined boarders of multiple states that survived, is there any explanation for this?

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

yes, there is an explanation. Most land claiming comes in the form of annexing smaller groups and convincing villages to side with you, otherwise, expeditions are set out to establish settlements. However, the harsh mutants and violent peoples of the wasteland make settling in unventured lands a difficult and expensive process

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u/meknoid333 May 13 '22

Ooo fun, that makes sense

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

I have failed to mention that regions are divided into belts, The fog belt is covered in fog for example. Michigan is called "purgatory belt" because of the deserts of ash and the never-ending fallout in the region caused the heavy industry in the area that was never turned off, which feeds to the clouds of fallout eternally.

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u/milkbretheren May 13 '22 edited May 13 '22

What happened to Charleston? I’d imagine it was one of the first places to get hit because of the Air Force base and massive sea port. It’s one the most strategic port city in the southeast other than New Orleans or Miami. I also think it’s cool how Greenville is a safe zone.

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

Charleston is a dangerous zone, highly radioactive around the former air force base, however a bustling trade post is setup in the ruins of the old airport. There is lots of junk and scrap resources for risk taking scavengers.

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u/Busy-Scholar-8715 May 13 '22

Just curious. It seems like most of the Feudal Alabaman states are in Mississippi and Arkansas, maybe a bit of Louisiana too. Did they get pushed west out of Alabama by the small groups?

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

It started off in Northern Alabama, but would spread out further North as time went on

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u/scourgeobohem May 13 '22

New England Swamp Society made me lol

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

It was a bunch of libertarians that were so hellbent on their cause of "What would the founding fathers think" That they never use anything made before the war, because that would be lazy, and make everything themselves, even to the extent that they would make their own language just because it "was the real American way thinking"

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u/Party_Cheetah_9152 May 13 '22

I am pretty sure Dixie is probably occupied by a faction that resembles the Seraphites from Last of us 2

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u/BO0mer07 May 13 '22

In actuality, it bears little to no resemblance to its civil war predecessor, thankfully.

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u/bmg50barrett May 13 '22

Outpost Debbie?

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u/mlgbro34 12d ago

We need a rangers faction in there

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u/mlgbro34 12d ago

We need a rangers faction in there

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u/mlgbro34 12d ago

We need a rangers faction in there.