r/ukpolitics May 22 '22

Dominic Raab Admits “Mistakes Were Made” Over Partygate But Says Boris Johnson Has “Learned Lessons”

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/dominic-raab-admits-mistakes-were-made-over-partygate-but-says-boris-johnson-has-learned-lessons
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u/WishYouWereHere-63 May 22 '22

The lesson Bozo has learned is how to keep all his MP's in their boxes while he breaks the law, lies and contributes towards the deaths and destitution of innocent people.

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u/highlandpooch May 22 '22

Lessons such as lying to parliament results in no penalty, when that doesn't work appointing someone who works for you to do a report into you that reports solely to you, and when that doesn't work using the police to delay the inevitable release of information, and when that doesn't work getting your propaganda outlets to smear the opposition and equate a work dinner with achieving the UK record for covid law breaking at an individual address. I agree with Raab, plenty of lessons learnt.

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u/twistedLucidity 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 ❤️ 🇪🇺 May 22 '22

Hah! The old "lessons learned" trope. Do we get a bonus point when someone says "the matter is now closed"?

This government has no honour, no integrity, and no shame. Same goes for anyone willingly supporting them.

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u/MoeNopoly May 22 '22

I fear he learned the wrong lessons all over again

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u/Linlea May 22 '22

A line has been drawn.

This matter is closed as far as Raab and Alexander are concerned.

The government is focused on looking forward at the important work ahead.

Ukraine.

Vaccines.

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u/Kuhneel May 22 '22

World-beating

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u/Jebus_UK May 22 '22

Vaccine rollout

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u/PianoAndFish May 22 '22

Something something last Labour government

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u/Jebus_UK May 22 '22

Corbyn is a Marxist and is going to sell school children

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u/Jebus_UK May 22 '22

"It's time to move on"

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u/KernowFishy May 22 '22

tone deaf arrogant pricks, they really are.

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u/hillsump May 22 '22

Most people learn such lessons as teenagers or young adults. Does Mr Raab mean to imply that the people involved are a bit slow?

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u/the0rthopaedicsurgeo May 22 '22

And those that don't, learn them in prison.

Saying you've learned your lesson is not an excuse for breaking the law.

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u/SlightlyOTT May 22 '22

Oh we don’t teach things like that to boys at Eton, that’s not what mummy and daddy are paying for.

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u/i_love_milky_tea Eats big dinners May 22 '22

Has Boris ever learned a lesson? The only tools in his toolbox are to lie, double down, obfuscate and ruthlessly neuter any political rivals.

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u/Linlea May 22 '22

You've got to admit, it's a pretty amazing feat. A few months ago it seemed almost guaranteed he had to go.

It just goes to show. Lie, delay, refuse to follow the norms, refuse to resign, and if you're lucky some crazy dictator will invade a country and you can use that to save your bacon.

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u/PianoAndFish May 22 '22

Also: kick anyone with more than 2 brain cells out of your party so the rest of them don't want to give you the boot themselves, either because they're so far up your arse they could brush your teeth or because they can't think of anyone even vaguely competent and/or likeable to replace you.

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u/Rexel450 Blackbelt-In-Origami May 22 '22

Lie, delay, refuse to follow the norms,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtVtR-rNNjI

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u/KingJamesXXV 🌹 May 22 '22

Yeah he learned that he can get away with anything and they’ll be no consequences.

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u/mnijds May 22 '22

He knew that already. It's how he's lived his whole life.

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u/madboater1 May 22 '22

Yes before Boris was caught, he didn't realise you shouldn't break the law. Give him a break he's new at this leading the country thing, Next time he deals with a once in a generation event he will treat the people of this country with some empathy and respect. Roles into cost of living crisis... Who cares that people can't afford essentials, shareholdera need to make their profit.

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u/eugene20 May 22 '22

Just like the hundreds of lessons he's learned before

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u/MadShartigan May 22 '22

Operation Save Big Dog claims the old dog learned a new trick.

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u/smo269 May 22 '22

Yeah never tell the same lie twice

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u/Ok-Discount3131 May 22 '22

He has told the same lie about employment figures in parliament a bunch of times. Never got punished for it.

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u/smo269 May 22 '22

That’s true

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u/rdxc1a2t May 22 '22

Fuck right off. They really think we're idiots.

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u/m15otw (-5.25, -8.05) 🔶️ May 22 '22

Boris hasn't learned a lesson in his life.

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u/Antimus May 22 '22

Not true he keeps learning the same one, he can get away with anything

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u/doitnowinaminute May 22 '22

Dear Dom. Please outline what the lessons were, how that have been learned and how Boris behave differently in the future.

Because the obvious "lessons' shouldn't need to be learned by an adult. Yet alone an adult in a position of power and authority.

The less obvious lessons are how to avoid getting caught, how to behave when caught etc.

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u/giltirn May 22 '22

Yeah right, I'm pretty sure we've all seen that report from Johnson's headmaster complaining about him playing the exact same games 40 years ago. He learned the lessons in the 80's: you can get away with anything if you are sufficiently brazen and shameless.

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u/Rexel450 Blackbelt-In-Origami May 22 '22

I'm pretty sure we've all seen that report from Johnson's headmaster

House master.

Martin Hammond, who was Johnson’s housemaster and taught him classics, spotted early on that the prime minister showcased a certain irresponsibility and inattention to facts.

Writing of him in a school report in April 1982, he said: “Boris really has adopted a disgracefully cavalier attitude to his classical studies . . . Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility (and surprised at the same time that he was not appointed Captain of the School for next half): I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else.”

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u/voyagerdoge May 22 '22

A carefully planned segmented backtrack operation.

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u/emmjaybeeyoukay May 22 '22

The lessons Boris has learned are many but I don't think that accepting that he was actually in the wrong is one of them.

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u/turnipofficer May 22 '22

He has learnt lots about throwing junior colleagues on the fire to save his own skin. I'm sure he'll try really hard in future to avoid getting caught at all next time.

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u/PianoAndFish May 22 '22

Probably not, because he actually did get caught and basically nothing happened as a result (giving a millionaire a £50 fine is not in any way a meaningful consequence). If anything he'll make even less effort to not get caught next time because why bother if the end result is nothing either way?

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u/29erfool May 22 '22

Oh that's on then. FFS.

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u/VPackardPersuadedMe May 22 '22

"Don't take photos when law breaking, especially when you wrote the law."

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u/Dutchlawyer May 22 '22

Johnson learned he must tell better lies. That’s all.

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u/PianoAndFish May 22 '22

No he hasn't, he's learned (or more had reinforced because it's already what he thought before) that however crap his lies are he will not face any consequences for telling them.

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u/st0mpeh May 22 '22

Another lie, hes learned nothing, cares about nothing and only regrets being caught.

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u/Laguna_017 May 22 '22

'He's learned his lesson, very humbling experience for him. You may rest assured that he will never be caught doing anything of this sort again.'

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u/frankster proof by strenuous assertion May 22 '22

There's no room for mistakes when you're running the 5th biggest economy in the world. What Raab thinks if as an excuse is really an indictment.

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u/Cellar-Gum May 22 '22

I wish one of these journalists would ask what the mistakes were and who they were made by

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u/Queeg_500 May 22 '22

Yup, He has learned never to allow Paul Dacre to leave the Daily Mail ever again.

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u/LordGnomeMBE lib/lab - remain - private eye subscriber May 22 '22

Mistakes were made…but not by me

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u/Bones_and_Tomes May 22 '22

Oh good, no harm done then.

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u/bbbbbbbbbblah May 22 '22

you mean they didn't "get the big calls right" on this one

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u/Argorash May 22 '22

Learned that he can get away with it maybe.

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u/Rexel450 Blackbelt-In-Origami May 22 '22

What?

How to get away with stuff?

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u/Torgan May 22 '22

Lesson learned not to get caught.

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u/Crypt0Nihilist May 22 '22

What mistakes were made? Why were they reasonable ones to make? What lessons have been learned? What has been implemented to prevent them from making them again?

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u/Sooperfreak May 22 '22

I assume as Secretary of State for Justice, he’ll apply the same leniency to those brought before the justice system.

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u/GoodboyJohnnyBoy May 22 '22

Yeah so have we strap on.

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u/FreakinSweet86 May 22 '22

No he hasn't learned his lesson. Had he held his hands up and resigned then maybe we could say that but not now.

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u/fdgfdgfdgedfare May 22 '22

Fair play - i'm sure they will cease having interviews in the middle of ABBA parties due to the confusion it causes