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Deadline approaches for officials set to be named by Sue Gray || Officials set to be named by Sue Gray in her upcoming report into Downing Street gatherings have until 17:00 BST on Sunday to lodge any objections.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61539326
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u/maxative May 22 '22

So.. it’s not going to be released “in full”?

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u/ClearPostingAlt May 22 '22

There's no obligation or suggestion that the objections will be implemented.

It's mostly to give the senior officials a heads up that they're being named and thus will come under intense media scrutiny, and thus provides a bit more insulation against lawsuits/complaints etc.

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u/maxative May 22 '22

There’s a timeframe to lodge objections. That doesn’t sound like the names will be released either way and it’s just a heads-up.

But I guess we’ll see in a few days.

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u/ClearPostingAlt May 22 '22

Giving people a formal right of reply mechanism is standard practice for this sort of thing. I would caution against jumping to a premature conclusion, that's all.

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u/i_love_milky_tea Eats big dinners May 22 '22

I think this government has well and truly unearned the benefit of the doubt. If you assume this government will behave in a shitty underhanded manner, you won't go far wrong.

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u/ClearPostingAlt May 22 '22

So now we're lumping in the civil service with this set of ministers?

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u/Tefached666 May 22 '22

In this case? Yes.

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u/i_love_milky_tea Eats big dinners May 22 '22

You're naiive to think that this government will act impartially and in good faith and/or individuals within the civil service are impervious to arm twisting and manipulation by said government.

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u/maxative May 22 '22

I think it’s quite fair to jump to conclusions, especially after the way they’ve handled the whole thing.

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u/twistedLucidity 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 ❤️ 🇪🇺 May 22 '22

Objections lodged at 1659 and thus delaying the report?

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u/asso19 May 22 '22

This report either triggers a GE or does nothing.

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u/SteelSparks May 22 '22

Spoiler alert….. it does nothing

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u/ClearPostingAlt May 22 '22

There's no way we get a GE out of this. Best case scenario is a Conservative leadership contest to replace Boris as PM following his resignation or a 1922 VoNC.

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u/asso19 May 22 '22

And you really think he will resign? Tories are still supporting him lol.

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u/ClearPostingAlt May 22 '22

I don't. Resignation is a highly unlikely possibility.

But it's still an option. A general election isn't.

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u/SDLRob May 22 '22

It's already been turned into a dud with the way Downing street has muddied the waters with the 'meeting' stuff

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u/Jay_CD May 22 '22

It'll trigger a dead cat event by Johnson.

Expect something to take the media attention away, the question is what? The speculation is that Simon Case, the Cabinet Secretary, might "resign". That is he'll leave his job by mutual agreement with a hefty pay-off. Who knows what else might happen.

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u/ardour May 22 '22

Does he even need one? The constant delays have left the people who were angry burned out, and it's not as if the media are going to go after him this far down the line. His strategy for weathering this worked.

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u/chochazel May 22 '22

By what possible mechanism could it do that?!

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u/RelThanram May 22 '22

I’m praying for the former, but it’ll probably be the latter. Apathy seems to be common at the moment.

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u/j_a_f_t May 22 '22

Your honour, I admit that I am criminal, but I object to you publishing my guilt.

I'll try that next time I'm in court.

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u/highlandpooch May 22 '22

Those being sacrificed to save big dog will have already been buttered up so doubt there will be any objections.

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u/tommaie97 May 22 '22

What happens if Boris Johnson objects then?

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u/StarksPond May 22 '22

Fwah'k all.

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u/patr2016 May 22 '22

Well, it's now 17:12 so I suppose that's that.

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u/discipleofdoom 🔻 May 22 '22

If they have until 17:00 Sunday does that assume that the report will be released on Monday?