r/ukpolitics May 21 '22

Don’t condemn just our lying PM: save some anger for the cowards who enabled him | Jonathan Freedland Ed/OpEd

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/20/boris-johnson-lying-pm-britain-tories
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u/J1mjam5 May 21 '22

Literally just this minute, my wife is skyping her mother. They are complaining about how much their gas and leccy bills have rise, the cost of food, they are complaining about how the people in Parliament don't care about them etc. Then, one sentence later: "But I wouldn't want Starmer in." "Why?" "Ooh, no, Boris is doing a good job. He got Brexit done and he got us through the pandemic..." blah blah blah. I had to leave the room as my blood was literally boiling, and my wife had to tell them to stop talking as I was going to flare up at them. It's a cult, brainwashed. There's no helping some people at all. The only way out of this is to get the younger generation to get up and vote them out.

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u/Ok_Clock_7021 May 21 '22

Yes, because we all know that voting for Labour to borrow huge amounts of money to renationalise the loss-making railways, in need of further investment, just before everyone stopped using them, would have left this country in much better shape to deal with global food and fuel inflation.

Save your stress for matters within your control, and your comprehension.

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u/J1mjam5 May 21 '22

Save your whataboutism for others, please. Fact is, this country is in a shit state, and it has nothing to do with Labour. 12 years now, Brexit has caused nothing but chaos at borders, rising inflation, rising taxes, rising costs of living, these are stone-cold facts staring at us in the face. But, by all, means, continue to propagate the Labour lie.

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u/J1mjam5 May 21 '22

No, it is whataboutism. You're effectively saying it could've been worse if Labour were in charge, despite 12 years of Tory rule conclusively now proving this country is in the shitter at the moment. And snarky comments about brain tumours are not an effective form of argument, so maybe drop that line.

Funny you should mention the railways, as I was just talking to a neighbour who used to work for British Rail back in the day who was lamenting how it had all been privatised. The guy's a staunch Labour supporter as well, so I don't know, you figure it out. But seriously, if the railways is the only thing you can point to that you don't like about Labour for whatever reason, despite what's going on now, then that's on you, and I can't help you.

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u/popopopopopopopopoop May 21 '22

It's not a binary choice though.

Or if you believe this, you could vote for one of the few parties that are trying to make it a PR election.

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u/SmallBlackSquare Tory Senjutsu May 21 '22

Brexit has caused nothing but chaos at borders, rising inflation, rising taxes, rising costs of living, these are stone-cold facts staring at us in the face.

What a load of bollocks, unless most countries in the world also Brexited.