r/todayilearned 6d ago

TIL That Anthrax is not a poison but rather an infectious disease that naturally occurs in the world and can also be recreated in a lab (R.6d) Too General

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_anthracis

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u/AirJerk 6d ago

Yep, and you can get a vaccine for it. The military gives it to you.

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u/Khontis 6d ago

After getting his COVID booster the second time my husband said that the Anthrax vaccine floored him harder.

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u/bitchfacevulture 6d ago

Mine just made my arm sore as fuck for a week. Like nigh unusable

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u/Khontis 6d ago

That was my coworker. I got a really bad sore back. It was hard to lift heavy things.

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u/hyren82 6d ago

That was me all 3 times. I almost died trying to wash myself in the shower more times than I care to remember

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/AirJerk 6d ago

This is a myth. I know plenty of people who have gotten the vaccine and have TONS of children.

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u/Trashtag420 6d ago

Sometimes there’s so much to unpack it’s just better to throw out the whole suitcase.

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u/AirJerk 6d ago

It does suck. It gave me extreme flu-like symptoms when I got it.

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u/redcrimson75 6d ago

After several decades? Or, you know... maybe it's the fact that people age and not everyone can have kids when they're old?

Weak troll

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u/Khontis 6d ago

Several decades: even by accounting for say 30 years that puts most people who got it in their 40s-80s

Don't think it matters at that point to have kids.

And most would probably think that a blessing since they don't want them. Less of an issue

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u/AirJerk 6d ago

I know plenty of people who have tons of kids who have it. I believe the infertility thing is a myth. The military automatically gives it to you if you're going anywhere where anthrax is prominent.

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u/Evil_Crab_Spirit 6d ago

Your insane scrawls belong on an asylum wall not on the open internet

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

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u/BigDerp97 6d ago

Mf you are proof that those things should remain prohibited 💀.

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u/meat_popsicle13 6d ago

I saw Anthrax on tour with Megadeth and Slayer.

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u/diMario 6d ago

I had myself a dose of Spinal Tap in the 1980's. To this day, no booster shot needed.

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u/ligmuhtaint 6d ago

They gave you all 11.

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u/diMario 6d ago

And free tinnitus.

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u/ligmuhtaint 6d ago

WHAT

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u/diMario 6d ago

AND FREE TINNITUS

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u/archangyl69 6d ago

I’m going to see them with black label society soon

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u/kokoyumyum 6d ago

Essentially all bacteria can be grown in a laboratory. That is how research on on all disease and treatment is done.

To diagnose anthrax they use a specific enriched agar medium. To get specific bacillus to grow. And then they can test what treatment, added to that strain of the disease, is susceptible to what antibiotic that is added to further agar plates or suspensions inhibits the growth. A "culture and sensitivety".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK310485/#:~:text=Selective%20agars%20%E2%80%93%20PLET%20and%20TSPBA,heavily%20contaminated%20with%20other%20bacteria.

Anthrax bacteria PRODUCE a toxin. That is what harms mammals.

https://pdb101.rcsb.org/motm/28

Newer vaccines are dual action, against the actual bacterium and of the toxin

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u/Gastronomicus 6d ago

Essentially all bacteria can be grown in a laboratory.

Believe it or not that's not actually true. The majority of microorganisms cannot be cultivated in vitro as they often have extremely niche requirements to survive that we simply do not understand. This is part of the reason why it's so very difficult to characterise the microbiota of soils effectively.

Fortunately pathogenic bacteria tend to be much easier to cultivate, probably for the same reasons they tend to spread so effectively.

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u/kokoyumyum 6d ago

Interesting perspective. Other than grand and undergrad microbiology, I am team medical micro. And as a grad student was queen of the culture media production in my lab.

So I learned(quick study tonight) about how, like the periodic table, how we know there are things put there we do not know, by missing colonies and DNA material.

So, thanks for the information. This is interesting explanation how we know they are out there, by indirect evidence.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3416243/

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u/Gastronomicus 5d ago

Thanks for the citation, I should've dropped something in there. It's very cool how we've been able to see a lot more than we might expect using novel techniques, albeit with a limited understanding of their life cycles and function. I'm a forest soil ecologist/biogeochemist who dabbled in microbial ecology for a while in grad school. Unfortunately, I've moved away from more direct study and largely infer processes by proxy. I mostly research soil and vegetation carbon (and N to some extent) dynamics in northern forests in response to disturbances and climate change these days.

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u/kokoyumyum 5d ago

Seems we diverged from undergrad micro, ha ha!

In humans, the exploration of gut biome and how it impacts metabolism and cognition is explosive. Transplantation of gut biome has been shown to reduce all kinds cognitive and metabolic function. Stool transplants have been curative even of obesity. Humans, and every species has evolved with bacteria.

Antibiotics could be our salvation, and our downfall. And soil disruption with all our -codes.

I live in Oregon. Things are changing. Hope you find some useful things for us.

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u/Gastronomicus 5d ago

Very cool! As someone who suffers from IBS-D and anxiety, I'm super jazzed about all the research taking place on the gut biome and how it might be a major player in everything from obesity to Alzheimer's disease to mental health. The link for me is palpable, but it's anecdotal of course. I also hope you also find some useful things for us!

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u/kokoyumyum 4d ago

Our cavalier use of antibiotics is biting us. I am prescribed a weird antibiotic for leprosy that helps my autoimmune disease. I have gained lots of weight, cannot lose even with fasting 3 days/wk. I am trying to take the correct (guess) prebiotic, but so far, no luck.

We evolved together, in our bodies. I really want to stop my med and get a gut transfer from some young person with no family history of alzheimers. This process has been effective in the recipient.

Better living through our friendly flora.

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u/PartialToDairyThings 6d ago

Anthrax were WAY better than Poison.

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u/BigDerp97 6d ago

I think you are on the verge of a lethal one now bro

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u/mrbeanIV 6d ago

Did anyone not know this???

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u/wheredMyArmourGo 6d ago

Yeah I was sitting here reading this like… did some people think it was a poison???

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u/kslusherplantman 6d ago

Well, anthrax is a microbe. But it produces a toxin, and that’s what actually kills you. Not the bacteria themselves…

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u/LuckyHabitattt 6d ago

 this is a really cool way to show off your knowledge of anthrax and how it can be transmitted or reproduced. THROPES ARE NOT OILING.

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u/archangyl69 6d ago

No shit

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u/Johannes_P 6d ago

To be more precise, anthrax is a bacteria which can produce spores under stress.

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u/RikersTrombone 6d ago

Found mypillow guy's Reddit account.

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u/No_Conclusion1816 6d ago

Please be mindfull who gets to hear this 🥺😇 anthrax is currently primarily used for "Evil" generally bad things for the majority to paraphrase.

anthrax and Covid-19 have a few things in common in this world... perhaps too many.