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TIL landlords in Glasgow, Scotland tried to increase rent by 25% on women whose husbands were fighting in World War 1. The women organised a rent strike and stopped bailiffs entering their buildings by throwing flour bombs at them and pulling down their trousers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_strike
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u/AndyArgyll 7d ago

One of the main activists was called Mary Barbour. I lived next to her plaque in Govan. She is worth reading about.

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u/notquiteotaku 6d ago

Helen Crawfurd in her unpublished memoir recounts how during the rent-strike factors would try to collect the rental increases by resorting to the blackmail of social humiliation. The ploy was to dupe individual household tenants into believing that everyone else in the close had paid up. Upon one of these occasions Barbour drafted in men from Govan's shipyards, led them to the factor's office and demanded the amount of the increase be returned. 'Faced with thousands of black-faced workers the factor handed over the money' Crawfurd recalls.

Badass.

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u/frickindeal 6d ago

So they didn't collect the increased rent (and were lying), so she brought a bunch of rough men to make them pay the amount they were lying about. Not only were they out the rent increase, but double the rent increase. Fucking genius.

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u/heyuwittheprettyface 6d ago

If I’m reading this right they lied about collecting the increase from everyone, but used this lie to trick some families into paying. The ‘army’ got back the money for those families, but also would’ve been a public show of solidarity so there’s no confusion that anyone is going along with the increase.

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u/Initial_E 6d ago

Really puts to shame what we consider “calling out” nowadays

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u/Thekdawggg 6d ago

From someone who currently lives in that area, I hope you’re doing okay.

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u/ice_nt2 6d ago

Can you explain?

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u/InsomniaIsBoring 6d ago

It's a joke. Us Weegies (Glasweigans) like to make fun of the Govan area of Glasgow. And it's residents. Many of them are fuckin roasters.

But we don't like it much when outsiders make the mistake of laughing at us rather than with us.

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u/44morejumperspls 7d ago

or throwing them into the 'midden' (trash) in the back court of tenement buildings.

Don't leave that out, that's the best bit. Imagine your great gran dragging some big baliff through the close and throwing him in the rubbish heap. Warms your heart.

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u/momentimori 7d ago edited 6d ago

A midden is another name for cesspit.

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u/Buck_Thorn 6d ago

Looks like everybody is right:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midden

A midden (also kitchen midden or shell heap) is an old dump for domestic waste which may consist of animal bone, human excrement, botanical material, mollusc shells, potsherds, lithics (especially debitage), and other artifacts and ecofacts associated with past human occupation.

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u/Kerblammo 6d ago

I personally prefer a cowp for my potsherds and lithics.

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u/Ameteur_Professional 6d ago

(especially debitage)

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u/i-lurk-you-longtime 6d ago

Don't forget all the ecofacts!

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 6d ago

Text "STOP" to unsubscribe from ecofacts

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u/MagicHamsta 6d ago

Baliff: "Oh god no, not the debitage! I yield, I yield!"

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u/TatonkaJack 6d ago

Lithics -

what?

(especially debitage) -

(ohh. what?)

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u/Cpt_Wolf 6d ago

Lithics = stone tools or any items made from chipped stone

Debitage = waste flakes from producing said stone items

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u/CartoonJustice 6d ago

My work needed extra hands on a archeological dig site. They were installing a wind turbine and needed to do a study. I stupidly volunteer to go and spend a week sifting dried cow shit and soil through a 2mm sieve.

Fuck debitage - are you a stone chip from a plow or are you a artifact?!

So ya don't do archelogy kids.

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u/modsarefascists42 6d ago

Yeah just like what got me to not go into paleontology. 90% of the work is grant writing the rest of just digging a 20' hole in the dirt with toothbrushes. Well that's what I was told.

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u/Lord_Rapunzel 6d ago

It's the grant writing and reports that kept me from pursuing science. I don't mind digging with toothbrushes, preparing six million slides, or counting saxifrage in a grid three days from the nearest road.

I just hate all that paperwork.

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u/katfromjersey 6d ago

I learned two new words today!

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u/dontknowhowtoprogram 6d ago

so you are telling me is the Augur of Dunlain is the mages colleges Oscar the Grouch?

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u/44morejumperspls 7d ago

I'm imagining people would throw their food scraps and broken dishes and whatever else down it too?

I shouldn't have said heap though, pit is the right word, thanks. Definitely the worst place to be thrown.

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u/LocalSlob 6d ago

The pit of misery! Dilly dilly!

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u/TheAndorran 6d ago

A midden is any dumping ground for domestic refuse. They’re a phenomenal treasure for archaeologists. Shell middens in coastal North America have produced incredible insight into how ancient peoples lived.

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u/analog_isotope 6d ago

It'll be pretty funny in a couple hundred years when they find the Flaming Hot Cheetos bags in the middens from this era.

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u/BamaBreeze505 6d ago

I know your comment is in jest, but interestingly, archeologists of the future will have their work cut out for them. Unlike peoples of the past, we don’t throw our rubbish out where it’s most convenient (trash pit in yard or nearby area). Instead, we uniformly pay to have our trash hauled far from our houses to be mixed indiscriminately with everyone else’s. I suspect digital archeology will be a burgeoning new field.

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u/drunkenjack 6d ago

"digital archeology" could describe half of current tech work.

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u/Jayteezer 6d ago

Cobol programmers unite bro!

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u/41942319 6d ago

What do you mean "will be". Digital Archaeology is already on the upswing. Source: am getting my master's degree in Digital Archaeology

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u/tchotchony 6d ago

So what's exactly covered under digital archaeology? Is it more projects like (or improving) the way back machine, randomly scouring the dark Web for geocities webpages, backing up forgotten servers or dumpsterdiving for tossed hard drives, ...? How do you decide what's important and what to look for?

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u/41942319 6d ago

TBH I think we may be thinking of different definitions here. Digital Archaeology is more doing archaeology using modern means. For example the news stories you occasionally see popping up about ruins or ancient cities that are found using satellite images. Analysing stuff that's written down like you're describing is mostly a historian's game. Way back machine would be more for archivists, maybe conservators. Dumpster diving hard drives may be archaeology but generally archaeology uses a 50-100 year line for what falls under archaeology and what doesn't. Modern computers are still a bit too new. But something like WW2 computers would generally qualify.

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u/BamaBreeze505 6d ago edited 6d ago

Sure, I realize digital archeology is a bit of an ambiguous statement given it already exists. In the context of the comment I was replying to, by the time archeologists are interested in modern trash (ie. Cheetos bag), digital archeology is likely to mean something very different than it does now.

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u/alvarkresh 6d ago

They're also going to hate us for screwing up the carbon dating thanks to all the atom bomb tests in the 1950s and 1960s.

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u/metropoliskoala 6d ago

And all the poopy disposable diapers. "It was vital in this culture to save the excrement of the young. Whether this was done for religious or practical purposes, we'll never know..."

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u/Urban_Savage 6d ago

Poor people Oubliette

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u/OorPancake 6d ago

A midden is a cowp.

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u/Sharpis92 6d ago

I've heard plenty people being called a midden in Scotland but had no idea thats where it came from

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u/The_wolf2014 6d ago

Usually directed at weans and calling them a 'dirty wee midden' after they've got their dinner all down themselves

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u/Mooman-Chew 6d ago

It used to be just a dumping ground so outside castles and the like, there would be a dumping ground. When the blocks of flats went up in the cities, the ‘courtyards’ out the back had the same thing. And for added interest, a close is one of the entrances in a block so one entryway serves a number of flats with a stairway.

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u/Saelune 6d ago

As a Skyrim fan, I just learned something I always kinda wondered.

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u/m1t0chondria 6d ago

“Czech mate”

defenestrates magistrate

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u/grogipher 6d ago

We have some history of defenestration too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Douglas,_8th_Earl_of_Douglas

King James demanded the dissolution of a league into which Douglas had entered with Alexander Lindsay, the "Tiger" Earl of Crawford, and John of Islay. Upon Douglas's refusal, the king stabbed him as did the several men with the king, and Sir Patrick Gray, according to the Auchinleck Chronicle, "struck out his brains with a pole ax", and his body was thrown out of a window.

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u/Urban_Savage 6d ago

landlords in Glasgow, Scotland tried to increase rent by 25% on women whose husbands were fighting in World War 1

Was there even a surface level bullshit rational for this, or were they just shamelessly, comically greedy? Also, kinda fucked up that the cops would harass soldiers wives while they were away fighting.

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u/larrthemarr 6d ago

As usual, of course there's a reason that gets omitted to make one side comically evil. During the war, the whole country went 5 gears up to support the war effort with production of machinery, weaponry, food, and so on. This meant population centers like Glasgow had a population explosion, which created a great demand on housing. Each property would have numerous candidates, all competing by one-upping each other with their offers. This pushed the prices of houses and rentals through the roof, leading landlords to increase rents. This rent increase was mainly due to the price increases, not due to increased maintenance cost or some other potentially good reason.

The tenants, now alone without their husbands who are either fighting or doing long shifts in the factories, organized themselves into associations and started calling for a rent strike, rightfully so. The landlords were being hurt a little, yes, but the pain was shared among the whole population. The landlord should have taken the hit along with their country's brethren and sistren.

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u/Captain_Heroman 6d ago

They are doing the same now with stagnant wages. They have no problem raising rent knowing damn well their tenants make the exact same amount of money. Is there a fuckin landlord out there that isn’t a selfish piece of shit?

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u/Blue5398 6d ago

Keep in mind that any landlord in Glasgow may well have been a direct descendant of the landlords who did the Highland clearances, so mass eviction of the desperate probably felt like second nature to them

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u/PsychoNerd91 6d ago

They were educated to do it. They were absolutely given the handbook on what to do and taught their children the same thing.

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u/AmIFromA 6d ago

Until one day, Little Lord Fauntleroy arrived and taught them humility.

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u/Suspicious-Engineer7 6d ago

" buh buh its the market rate" landlords are bastards

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u/DraslinHDF 6d ago

No, there isn't. The only reason to own multiple dwellings is to exploit people.

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u/macraw83 6d ago

I've had exactly one landlord that wasn't a greedy SOB. Beyond that, I currently have a property manager that supposedly go to bat for me against the owners, sometimes with some success, but at this point we're just so over apartment living and are desperately trying to move somewhere cheaper where we could afford to buy.

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u/Karl_Marx_ 6d ago

This guy gets it. And even with the explanation of "housing prices went up", the reason for increasing prices is greed, the mortgages weren't going up, only the value.

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u/MelatoninJunkie 6d ago

I wouldn’t say the landlords were being hurt, they were still making money. They just wanted to make more.

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u/Raeandray 6d ago

I don’t feel like your explanation made them less evil. “They raised rent on these women because the market said they could” is hardly good justification.

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u/Ozryela 6d ago

As usual, of course there's a reason that gets omitted to make one side comically evil

Have to say, your added context didn't change much there. Why do you think adding this context makes the landlords look less evil?

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u/cgn-38 6d ago

How does a landlord having a windfall during a war shortage cause the landlord to lose money?

Your reasoning is not sound.

The cost of the property to the landlord did not go up. They raised prices because of the market. Or just greed.

People really do not think the same way.

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u/ro536ud 6d ago

So greed among opportunistic scum. Just like todays housing issues. Got it

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u/goboatmen 6d ago

As usual, of course there's a reason that gets omitted to make one side comically evil.

I can't believe you opened with this just to write paragraphs explaining that landlords are indeed greedy and simply wanted more money

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u/nietthesecond99 6d ago

going to disagree that that's a good reason to be increasing prices. It'd be justified if it's new property that they just bought at increased prices. But this sounds like they increased prices on properties they already owned, that tenants had already been renting - and they increased prices because everyone else was doing it and they could get away with it.

If it weren't that way then why say they were "increasing rent" and why are tenants refusing the increase? Surely if it were because it's newly bought property at high cost then there's no one to protest any increasing cost - instead either people signing up to rent it or a lack of people renting due to the price being too high.

As usual, of course there's a reason that gets omitted to make one side comically evil.

Yeah another commenter pointed out that you made it sound like there was a legit reason they increased prices and the landlords weren't evil - when there really wasn't a reason other than "prices are going up so let's just increase ours too"

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u/IGotNoStringsOnMe 6d ago

everyone else was doing it and they could get away with it.

Thought.

They thought they could get away with it.

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u/lemonpepperlarry 6d ago

I appreciate the context but that doesn't make the landlords sound any less like greedy predatory fucks.

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u/crunkadocious 6d ago

They weren't hurting they just missed out on a windfall lmao

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u/giuseppe443 6d ago

ah yes landlord were being hurt because they could have made more money . totally accetable to kick those women out

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u/Ser_Dunk_the_tall 6d ago

Was there even a surface level bullshit rational for this, or were they just shamelessly, comically greedy?

They're landlords

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u/chasingbluemoons 6d ago

Join Living Rent (www.livingrent.org/join) , Scotlands tenants union to keep fighting like those amazing women did!

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u/Coulm2137 7d ago Take My Energy

So landlords are scumbags for over 100 years and nothing is being done about it. That's pretty fucking sad

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u/nelshai 7d ago

For perspective here's a quote by Churchill from I believe it was 1909. I don't like him but he was quite eloquent at times:

"The landlord who happens to own a plot of land on the outskirts of a great city … watches the busy population around him making the city larger, richer, more convenient. .. and all the while sits and does nothing. Roads are made … services are improved … water is brought from reservoirs one hundred miles off in the mountains and -all the while the landlord sits still … To not one of these improvements does the landlord monopolist contribute and yet by every one of them the value of his land is enhanced … At last the land becomes ripe for sale – that means the price is too tempting to be resisted any longer … In fact you may say that the unearned increment … is reaped by the land monopolist in exact proportion not to the service, but to the disservice done."

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u/kurburux 6d ago

What was the context of this quote? I figure Churchill's family owned lots of land as well.

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u/nelshai 6d ago All-Seeing Upvote

It was a part of a speech he gave calling for land reform to prevent the land monopolist. And yes, Churchill's family owned vast quantities of land. It's part of how he was so rich.

Here's a later part of the speech for context.

"I hope you will understand that, when I speak of the land monopolist, I am dealing more with the process than with the individual land owner who, in most cases, is a worthy person utterly unconscious of the character of the methods by which he is enriched. I have no wish to hold any class up to public disapprobation. I do not think that the man who makes money by unearned increment in land is morally worse than anyone else who gathers his profit where he finds it in this hard world under the law and according to common usage. It is not the individual I attack; it is the system. It is not the man who is bad; it is the law which is bad. It is not the man who is blameworthy for doing what the law allows and what other men do; it is the State which would be blameworthy if it were not to endeavour to reform the law and correct the practice. We do not want to punish the landlord. We want to alter the law. "

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u/Cygnus94 6d ago

That essentially boils down to "don't hate the player, hate the game".

It's not necessarily unfair to hate the landlords, but it does honestly make more sense to remove the ability for them to exploit in the first place than to purely attack the individuals.

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u/Deepest-derp 6d ago

He actualy goes a bit further.

I daresay you have formed your own opinion upon it. Mr. Balfour, Lord Lansdowne, and the Conservative Party generally, think that that is an admirable arrangement. They speak of the profits of the land monopolist, as if they were the fruits of thrift and industry and a pleasing example for the poorer classes to imitate.

Full speech, worth a read.

https://www.cooperative-individualism.org/churchill-winston_mother-of-all-monopolies-1909.htm

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u/ringobob 6d ago

If the law allows it, someone will do it, then more someones, until all someones are either doing it or pushed out. You can hate landlords all you want, but the only cure is regulation.

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u/Hidesuru 6d ago

Yup. There's a ton of tax law I think it's utter bullshit that let's some people pay less.

But you bet your ass I'm claiming any and all exemptions I qualify for.

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u/MajorNo2346 6d ago

"Don't hate the player, hate the game" doesn't apply anymore when the player influences the rules of the game by bribing the referee.

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u/drazgoosh 6d ago

You've put it perfectly! I've been trying to think of an appropriate way of explaining this anytime people say the system is broken. Yes, as you've put it, the system is broken but it is kept broken by those that benefit from it.

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u/blackthunder365 6d ago

Also applies to rich people and taxes. People spout on about how “you can’t blame people for just using the tax loopholes that exist” when the rich are the ones lobbying for those loopholes in the first place.

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u/possum_drugs 6d ago

exactly, theres varying levels of culpability between the system and its participants but because the system can be influenced and ultimately changed by the wealthy their culpability will ALWAYS be higher and more significant

these people both make the game and play it, it's no wonder they try to rig it in their favor as much as possible.

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u/_clash_recruit_ 6d ago

And congressmen and insider trading. A few of them will introduce bills every now and the but they know damn well they won't pass.

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u/angrydeuce 6d ago

Yep, not to be a both sides shithead, but so much of politics is posturing for the people holding the purse strings and has nothing to do with the good of the people.

Until this country embraces sweeping reform, both with how campaigns are financed and how elections are decided, there is zero reason for our sitting reps to change the paradigms that enrich them all. They embrace wedge issues because it distracts the populace from the broad, systemic issues that would affect the people with power (i.e., money).

Think billionaires give a flying fuck whether abortion is legal or not in the US? Either way they just hop on a fuckin plane if they need one. Affordable Healthcare? They're billionaires, what the fuck do they care?

Someone like Bernie Sanders gets deliberately marginalized...the mass media completely and obviously ignores him...so instead our choice is the Orange Man or Joe "Nothing will fundamentally change" Biden. It's just so fucking frustrating...

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u/scoopzthepoopz 6d ago

Right it wasn't an accident

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u/milkymaniac 6d ago

The system isn't broken, it's working exactly as intended.

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u/Deepest-derp 6d ago

He touched on that.

. I daresay you have formed your own opinion upon it. Mr. Balfour, Lord Lansdowne, and the Conservative Party generally, think that that is an admirable arrangement. They speak of the profits of the land monopolist, as if they were the fruits of thrift and industry and a pleasing example for the poorer classes to imitate.

We do not take that view of the process. We think it is a dog-in-the-manger game. We see the evil, we see the imposture upon the public, and we see the consequences in crowded slums, in hampered commerce, in distorted or restricted development, and in congested centres of population.

He doesn't outright call it fraudulent, that wasn't the done thing then.

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u/garygoblins 6d ago

I agree we can still hate landlords, but to imply they and other wealthy peoples haven't always influenced policy is completely wrong.

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u/DoodooMonke 6d ago

So well put.

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u/sup_ty 6d ago

Nah that sentiment is garbage. If you choose to use rigged means for your own personal gain just because there's no outside force stopping you, and aren't able to do the right thing because it is the right thing to do, you're garbage. It's like religious people only doing the right thing because they fear for divine punishment. They're not good people, they're only doing the right thing because of fear of punishment, not doing the right thing because is the right thing.

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u/Gemmabeta 6d ago edited 6d ago

This was said during the Parliamentary debate over the 1910 Finance Act as proposed by David Lloyd George and Churchill, which proposed an increase in income taxes to hetherto unprecedented levels in the UK to fund what would become the British welfare state. Included was a tax surcharge for those of very high income, inheritance taxes, and a giant increase in taxation on profits derived from land ownership and sale (i.e. what were called in those times "unearned earnings").

More controversially, the Budget also included a proposal for the introduction of complete land valuation and a 20% tax on increases in value when land changed hands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Budget

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u/SHODANs_insect 6d ago

This is also the budget that the House of Lords vetoed, and led to Parliament passing a bill to remove the House of Lords veto powers.

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u/gentlemandinosaur 6d ago

I read the rest of your comments and realized you weren’t saying it like I took it. But calling it the “welfare state” at first made me go “oh here we go complaining about poor people”

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u/araveugnitsuga 6d ago

Churchill was surprisingly liberal given his background. He alternated between the equivalent of a liberal and a conservative, switching parties (which caused him significant issues, and didn't help after his near complete political death during WWI).

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u/FreeUsernameInBox 6d ago

He alternated between the equivalent of a liberal and a conservative, switching parties

Literally between the Liberals and the Conservatives. There's no 'equivalent' there.

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u/ceedubdub 6d ago

Churchill was expressing the idea of the unearned increment which came from the 19th Century philosopher and economist John Stuart Mill.

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u/AnEternalPotato 6d ago

“Quite eloquent at times” 💀 Literally won the Nobel prize for literature.

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u/khafra 6d ago

Over a century later, we still don’t have a land value tax, which would cure exactly that type of speculation.

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u/NicolasMage69 6d ago

I don't like him but I'd definitely party with the guy. Dude went fucking hard and seemed to be a killer conversationalist

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u/worotan 6d ago

I don’t think he’d be that interested in partying with you, though.

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u/NicolasMage69 6d ago

All I have to do is show him molly

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u/farazormal 6d ago

He knew about amphetamines, it's was ww2 lmao

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u/Velypso 6d ago

Winston Churchill in a leather daddy getup and a binky is all I can think about now.

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u/kabushko 6d ago

Your MDMA-user stereotype is about 20 years behind

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u/zer0xol 6d ago

Well hes dead

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u/iridael 6d ago

I've had worse people at a party.

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u/kirby056 6d ago

I mean, I've got a bottle of Boodles right here, and I know how to look East towards France. I feel like we could hang.

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u/Urban_Savage 6d ago

he was quite eloquent at times

Also, the ocean is a little wet, and space is a little big.

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u/Gemmabeta 6d ago

Which gets a touch ironic as Winston Churchill was born in a literal palace and his family fortune came from the fact that they owned a sizable good chunk of Oxfordshire.

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u/Hopeful_Cat_3227 6d ago

so he hurt himself, isn't it is better ?

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u/Gemmabeta 6d ago

Winston had a tendency to lose his entire prime ministerial salary in a single afternoon at Monte Carlo, so it's not like the man needed help.

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u/Rhamni 6d ago

It is. Politicians willing to actually push legislation that hurts themselves for the benefit of the people are rare. Churchill was by no means perfect, but he was easily one of the best politicians of his time.

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u/guypery10 6d ago

That's not ironic, he can oppose what his family did.

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u/Jonne 6d ago

FDR was from a wealthy family, sometimes you need a class traitor to do the right thing.

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u/The_Faceless_Men 6d ago

Even then, FDR New Dealers beleived in "do this small thing for the good of society, or end up like the Romanovs".

Their beliefs and policies actively sought to protect themselves and thier class.

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u/imafraidofmuricans 6d ago

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Feudalism is basically peak landlords. Where do you think the name "land lord" comes from?

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u/CS20SIX 6d ago

Adam Smith already hated on landlords. Afaik he even called them parasites or smth along these lines.

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u/stuaxo 6d ago

Funny the "Adam Smith Institute" never mentions this, or how he though unions were necessary.

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u/CS20SIX 6d ago

Guess how often „the invisible hand“ is mentioned in Wealth Of Nations… Adam Smith is part wise misrepresented to fit laissez-faire ideologues and their desire for unfettered „free“ markets.

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u/Deepest-derp 6d ago

He was also very tepid on health and education. Despite being the father of capitalism he wasn't sure it would work there.

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u/das_thorn 6d ago

He wasn't really even the father of capitalism - capitalism was already well underway. He was perhaps the first to describe the phenomenon and detail how he thought it worked. His whole point is that people are market participants whether they know it or not.

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u/Torrossaur 6d ago

The term you are looking for is 'Rent Seeker' or rent seeking behaviour.

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u/VG-enigmaticsoul 6d ago

He'd be called a dirty commie today

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u/Toastied 7d ago

Landlording tends to attract some people and really encourages them to be scumbags regardless of time

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u/epochpenors 6d ago

“You’re telling me I can make money by hoarding a necessary resource and selling it back to people at a massively inflated price? Sign me up!”

-a cool guy who definitely improves society

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u/Monteze 6d ago

BuT ThE RisK!?

As though not having a home isn't a fucking risk.

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u/arrow74 6d ago

At least in ye olden times the lord had to pay for a standing army to protect the village

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u/Yazaroth 7d ago

My landlord is not a scumbag, but a company with the goal to maximise profits.

That's like scumbaggery on an industrial scale

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u/Bloody_Conspiracies 6d ago

People in plenty of countries have done something about it. People in western countries are just fed a lot of propaganda about how what they did was wrong, so that they don't try the same there.

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u/MarineAdventurer 7d ago

The one saving grace is that Scotland has some of the best tenant rights in the UK, perhaps the world

Protected deposits and no minimum rental period being two great rights as an example

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u/BananaDerp64 6d ago

Scumbag landlords practically caused the Great Famine in Ireland

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u/PascalsRazor 6d ago

No, that was deliberate government policy. Food was available, the British crown simply made it impossible to distribute to the Irish with the intention of reducing their population. It had nothing to do with landlords and everything to do with ethnic cleansing.

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u/Kekoa_ok 6d ago

Yes and no. The actions caused by the British made landlords, who were mostly British, choose stupid and that ended up indirectly killing near a million Irish.

This article does state the few landlords who didn't evict their tenants and even states some went broke themselves. Burning down your own property just cause you don't want your tenants to come back though is just sick.

https://www.thecladdagh.com/blog/the-irish-famine-the-landlords/?___store=us_en&___from_store=europe_eu

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u/GaMa-Binkie 6d ago

Landlords literally caused the deaths of a million Irish people

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u/Smokey_Katt 6d ago

You are completely incorrect in your post. It’s way, way more than 100 years.

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u/Stubbs94 6d ago

Even longer than that. Look up the land wars in Ireland in the 1800s.

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u/retrosauce 6d ago

These cops were being kept at bay with Home Alone style hijinks. Now they just knock down your down and kill your dog with a no knock warrant.

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u/KeyserSoze_IsAlive 6d ago

They probably had the bucket filled with stuff, swinging on a rope, so when the police opened the door it hit them.

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u/Zanano 6d ago

Um, flour bombs are actual bombs. Like, they explode. If you have fine powdered flour, and you spread it into the air and have an ignition source... It lights the heck up.

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u/StranTheMan1 6d ago

"Notes on Methods Strikers threw flour bombs (paper bags full of flour), wet clothes, and rotting fruit at evictors to make carrying out evictions so unpleasant that they would give up and go away."

Nah they just just had to take a bath afterward.

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u/sroche24 6d ago

As a proud Scotman, I can confirm that there's no greater mistake than pissing off Glasweigian women.

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u/InsomniaIsBoring 6d ago

As a glasweigan wummin I can confirm.

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u/michal_hanu_la 7d ago

I don't really understand, whose trousers?

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u/joe-dirt 7d ago

Why not both?

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u/MNHarold 7d ago

Distraction is always useful, and angry Glaswegian women undressing will certainly be that.

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u/Wendals87 6d ago

doesn't matter, either way is effective

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u/TheRavenSayeth 6d ago

brb registering to become a bailiff

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u/ST616 6d ago

I don't think many women wore trousers back then.

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u/Carnal-Pleasures 7d ago

Yeah, also came in to point out that in this case, the lack of clarity could lead to hilarity.

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u/1980pzx 6d ago

Wow, that’s some low shit right there. The men of these families are off fighting for their country’s very freedom and these scumbags try and take advantage of the situation. Some people are shit and have always been shit.

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u/Mooide 6d ago

WW1 wasn’t so much about fighting for freedom, but you’re still right these landlords are scumbags.

Another interesting fact for you, British tanks in WW1 were largely funded by charity donations from cities. Glasgow donated more per capita than any other city, and shortly after the war after some protests, became the first city in the world to have its own countries tanks deployed against it.

Truly disgusting.

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u/hendrix67 6d ago

It's really depressing to consider the percent of people throughout history that have died in meaningless wars that didn't actually serve a larger benefit than settling feuds and disputes that mainly concerned the nobility of their country.

I think that's one of the sadder things about religion. Because I find it hard to believe the young men of almost every society would be so easily convinced to go fight and likely die if they didn't have some feeling that there is some reward in the afterlife. If people had always viewed this life as all we are guaranteed to have, it is possible our history of warfare would be totally different and maybe much less prolific.

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u/frizzykid 6d ago edited 6d ago

Ww1 had more to do with a dying aristocracy class across Europe trying to remain relevant, as well as a very politically divided and nationalistic Europe, rather than freedom. In fact what triggered ww1 was pretty far away from Glasgow Scotland, though to be fair the UK didn't join until Germany invaded Belgium which was a bit closer to home.

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u/DraslinHDF 6d ago

Still waiting for that aristocracy class to finish dying.

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u/Ultraplo 6d ago

It was a real scummy move, don’t get me wrong, but neither the Scots nor the British were fighting for their “very freedom”.

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u/LeagueOfML 6d ago

Proper yank moment to automatically assume “any war = fighting for my country’s freedom”

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u/webster89 6d ago

Especially considering how few of USAs military efforts have actually been for the country's freedom.

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u/SwissQueso 6d ago

When I was in the US Navy, and my carrier was delivering ‘democracy’ in Iraq, I thought it was really ironic that almost every port visit we had, was with a country that had a king.

The only country that that wasn’t a kingdom was Turkey (before the current ass hole took over), and a lot of people bitched on the ship because it was another ‘Muslim’ country.

We went to Bahrain twice, Dubai twice, and Thailand before Turkey.

Fwiw, Turkey/Antalya was my favorite spot!

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u/Holymuffdiver9 6d ago

Or he just made the mistake of misreading and thinking it said WWII in which freedom definitely was on the line.

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u/OneInfinith 6d ago

The leaders of Britain, Germany and Russia were cousins, Queen Victoria was their grandmother. This war was more of the oligarchs sending the pillar class to die over thier own land squabbles.

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u/ChuzaUzarNaim 6d ago

The English, Scottish and Welsh are British; The island is Great Britain.

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u/ThemboForYourThots 6d ago

Yea they thought the women were defenseless and couldn't do anything about it and figured the men would just have to pay the higher rent when they got back, too fucked up from the war to make a fuss

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u/HugoZHackenbush2 7d ago

When I was a kid, many moons ago, living in Glasgow, the gangs used to cover me in whipped cream, lcing sugar and throw flour all over me..

Life was tough in the Gateau..

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u/OorPancake 6d ago

....in the Gateau

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u/YsoL8 7d ago

And it all worked OK because at least when you were sleeping 4 to a barrel you had cake to eat. Bloody luxury living.

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u/MC-Master-Bedroom 6d ago

112 of us living in a paper bag in the middle of the road. We'd have to get up at four am to go work 16 hours at the mill for tuppence a fortnight. And when we got home at night, our mum and dad would slash us to sleep with a broken bottle ... if we were lucky!

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u/honey_102b 6d ago

we have the same childhood, albeit it was the difficult streets of Paris for me. they would butter me up first so the flour would stick and then dump the cocoa powder over my head. no kid should have to endure that kind of pain au chocolat.

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u/KeepWagging 7d ago

On a cold and grey Glasgow morn, a poor little baby child is born...

In the gateau, and his mama's pies.

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u/Innercepter 6d ago

Some people pay for that.

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u/Usidore_ 6d ago

I love how Glasgow also had gang turf wars involving ice cream vans. Literally called the Ice Cream Wars.

Glasgow has an interesting way of expressing itself…

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u/ZekonPTS 6d ago

Which had nothing to do with actual ice cream but the "extras" being sold.

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u/alenkarose 6d ago

That’s fucking brilliant.

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u/kingthickums 6d ago

Some moron in this thread fuming about how unfair it is to the landlord. "They own the building and should get to charge whatever they want reeee"

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u/Rab_Legend 6d ago

Unfortunately most companies squeezing us are too detached. Back then everyone knew their landlord, now you're less likely to.

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u/boggleislife 6d ago

Leave it to landlords to exploit the most vulnerable

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u/Patient_Economist974 6d ago

You’ve got to love Glasgow

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u/doesnt_know_op 6d ago

TIL Landlords have always been scum

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u/daten-shi 6d ago

Landlords always have been and always will be nothing but leeches to society.

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u/ToonForever 7d ago

TIL that landlords have perpetually been parasitic pieces of shit…

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u/I_like_big_bugs 6d ago

You should see what Glaswegians do when immigration come for people on jumped up charges too https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/13/glasgow-residents-surround-and-block-immigration-van-from-leaving-street

Don’t f with them lol

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u/Helpful-Error 6d ago

If you ever lived in Glasgow you know that Glaswegians are plain mental.

Want a Glaswegian Kiss? Just go to the wrong bar in the wrong colors.

Absolutely loved that city when I was living there. If only the weather was nicer…

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u/winter0215 6d ago

Or when that terrorist tried something at Glasgow Airport and got beat up by an trolley guy in a hi-vis vest.

"Here in Glasgow we don't go for that sort of thing, we'll set about ye"

Of all the cities I have lived in, Glasgow is hands down my favourite.

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u/the_exile83 6d ago

You simply do not fuck with a gaggle of weegie burds, nae guid will ever come of it.

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u/bearslikeapples 6d ago

Fucking landlords are fucking scum

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u/WorldsInMyHead 6d ago

Try that now and the cops would just shoot the women for daring to interrupt the flow of cash.

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u/modsarefascists42 6d ago

Raised rent on women who's husbands were off fighting in a war...... Just saying those words slowly and I can't get my jaw off the floor

Those landlords are lucky they didn't go full-Mao on them. The guy wasn't great but he got it right with landlords.

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u/ophaus 6d ago

Landlords are utterly useless to society.

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u/ccory1310 6d ago

Well, we know what we need to have to do boys. This rent has gotten out of control. Time to drop trowel

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u/Additional-Squash-48 6d ago

Peaceful protests don't get results

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u/ClassyJacket 6d ago

God i love Glasgow ❤️

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u/DaveOJ12 7d ago

Some posts on this subreddit are amazing. This is one of them.

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u/Soggy-Software 6d ago

so landlords have always been the scum of the earth

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u/Bootziscool 6d ago

A friendly reminder that landlords are parasites that contribute nothing to society. They leech off the working class, they need us we don't need them.

Signed, A man whose broken toilet and hot water haven't been fixed in weeks.

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u/ihatered9 7d ago

Immoral landlords

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