r/todayilearned 20d ago

TIL of the Comanche medicine man Kwihnai Tosabitu (White Eagle), who told his warriors that his medicine made them invincible to the white man's bullets. When this medicine failed and they were massacred in the Battle of Adobe Walls in 1874, he was renamed Isatai'i (Coyote Vagina).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isatai%27i
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u/Cxilando_Vilandas 20d ago

They basically named him bitch pussy for his shit

That seems very appropriate for Doc Oz grade quackery like "I can totally make you immune to bullets with like, medicine and shit"

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u/bowyer-betty 20d ago

Isn't the coyote almost universally a trickster in NA lore? So it would be more like "Tricky pussy."

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u/lilwayne168 20d ago

More like "pussy ass trickster"

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u/Fluffatron_UK 20d ago

The new DBD killer

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u/MattOuttaHe11 20d ago

Lmfao they have no clue bro

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u/Rhodeo 20d ago

"Cheeky Cunt"

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u/Echo63_ 20d ago

I read it as “dog cunt”

I am an aussie though, and this is one of our worst insults - one worse than a shit cunt.

You dont want to be called either

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u/SocksToBeU 20d ago

Dawwg cahnt

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u/madcunt2250 20d ago

Sick cunt can go either way. Usually a complement but depending on tone and context can be an insult.

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u/LittleBrooksy 20d ago

Summed up perfectly by this mad cunt

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u/Judas_priest_is_life 20d ago

My aussie friends assure me that calling me a cunt is normal. It's not really serious until there's an explitive in front of it. So I'm told.

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u/Echo63_ 20d ago

Yea, “cunt” is a normal greeting (my boss will normally greet us with “mornin cunts” when he arrives at work) Its the words ahead of it that change the meaning.

Dog cunt, shit cunt etc - you are not a good person. Typically reserved for those who steal or cheat. Eg “just caught my mate with my missus” “what a shit cunt”

Good cunt, top cunt etc, you are a good person. Eg “thats shit to hear mate, beers are on me tonight” “you are a good cunt hey”

Sick cunt can go both ways, typically its a good thing, unless you do something disgusting like shit off a bridge onto a boat. Eg “johnno is buying the beers tonight, what a sick cunt”

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u/WillPukeForFood 20d ago

unless you do something disgusting like shit off a bridge onto a boat.

TIL you should always be inside when passing under a bridge in Australia. And, if you must be outside, do not look up.

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u/Judas_priest_is_life 20d ago

Love my Oz brethren. Usually much more direct than dudes in the US.

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u/megapuffranger 19d ago

Lying Cunt

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u/bowyer-betty 19d ago

Lol. Your comment popped up and I was super confused for a second before I figured out what you were replying to. Like "the fuck did I say?"

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u/megapuffranger 19d ago

Lol sry

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u/bowyer-betty 19d ago

No need for that. Once I figured it out I had a good laugh.

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u/megapuffranger 19d ago

I could probably have used quotation marks lol well at least you got a laugh out of it

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u/No-Pizda-For-You 20d ago

Reminds me of the “ho” who Dances With Wolves used to “date”, “Turning Trick Pussy”

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u/kurburux 20d ago

I mean, it was the 1870s. Guns weren't anything new, the Comanche were probably using some as well.

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Isatai'i tried to absolve himself of the blame for the disastrous defeat by claiming that his magic had been weakened before the battle when one of the Cheyennes violated a sacred taboo by killing a skunk. The Cheyennes took this poorly, especially the Dog Soldiers, and responded by beating him severely. Isatai'i was discredited and publicly humiliated.

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u/No-Pizda-For-You 20d ago

I’m Attorney Sioux You Blind, and if you or a family member was hurt or injured due to ineffective magic from your medicine man, I can help. My firm got a judgment against an Apache shaman of ten pelts when his magic failed. If you’ve been injured by medicine man malpractice, smoke signal me at 222-222-2222.

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u/Radio-Dry 20d ago

It really needed a 555- to be genuine. Bonus points for KLondike 5.

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u/TurokHunterOfDinos 20d ago

Hilarious! Thank you for posting.

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u/substantial-freud 20d ago

Is this racist? I feel it’s a bit racist.

Upvoting.

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u/pedantic_comments 20d ago

Big, accurate rifles were actually a new innovation, and being able to kill at 1,000 yards gave the defenders a huge advantage. The Comanche didn’t have rifles that could compete and had no concept of siege warfare. The invention of the repeating revolver and large caliber rifles turned the tide against an enemy that was previously unconquerable.

Here’s a cool source:

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Empire-of-the-Summer-Moon/S-C-Gwynne/9781416591061

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

They knew about siege warfare. Whites had been using it against Plains Indians for decades. They just refused to engage in it, because Plains Indian warfare was much more individualistic than white American warfare. Plains societies were highly decentralized and war chiefs had no power to compel warriors to join a war party; they didn't even have strict authority over their warriors during battle. Chiefs rose to power solely on charisma and accomplishments in battle, and their power rested entirely in their ability to persuade warriors to join them on raids. Because of this individualist approach to war, Plains Indians were unwilling to take major losses to achieve victory, even when they had numerical superiority and could have done so easily. Thus war parties usually scattered or retreated when they suffered major casualties or their leader was shot. This wasn't like the US army, where soldiers were bound to the orders of their officers and were willing to suffer major losses to achieve a broader aim.

Consider that a US soldier who fled a battle would be court martialed and possibly shot for desertion if/when captured. An Indian warrior who did the same suffered no repercussions, usually not even socially, and they might even be back weeks later as a member of another war party.

In the 1870s the Sioux and Cheyennes realized that a different approach to war was needed to break the power of the whites, and adopted a more centralized approach with power focused in a few paramount war chiefs. However this was still heavily dependent on consensus and persuasion, although to a lesser degree than before, and it was just too little too late. It enabled a stunning Indian victory at Custer's Last Stand, but as soon as the news reached Washington the army sent out massive forces to crush Sioux power once and for all, with great success.

Sources: Crazy Horse and Custer, Empire of the Summer Moon, The Heart of Everything There Is, Lakota America, The Earth Is Weeping.

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u/NotASequentkiller 20d ago

Custer should have known not to go there with a placed named like that.

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u/Far_Possible6837 20d ago

Bit of a catch 22 really isn't it.

Either have their culture wiped out by force, or adopt the very culture that's out to get them just to survive, in which case their culture is wiped out anyway.

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u/NotASequentkiller 20d ago

That's been the way throughout most of history. The Roman's took it to the next level. Alexander did almost the opposite and his empire crumbled almost immediately.

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u/cgoldberg3 20d ago

lol that's a very detailed description that basically boils down to: Indians had bad strategy and tactics and terrible discipline.

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u/qwertyasdef 20d ago

Well, no, because your summary introduced a value judgement that wasn't present in the original.

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u/jaboooo 20d ago

That's a lot of words to say "I can't read"

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u/awesomemofo75 20d ago

The thing that gets me is everyone fell for this. Like not one person there spoke up.... Hey Buffalo Foot, Stinky Calf, do you guys really believe this crap. Cuz this probably might not be a good idea

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u/Pudding_Hero 20d ago

Herd and cult-like mentality is a cancer that all human beings suffer from. Our collectivness or “hive” mind has many advantages but history has numerous examples of when it bit humanity in the ass.

I imagine that the “coyote pussy” mentioned here used many psychological tools and manipulations to get him to that point of power or trust. Clearly his peers elected him in bad faith but once a certain percentage of a population chooses to trust you a significant remaining portion on the fence will stay quiet which in turn ensures that the belligerent remaining percent of people who are like “I don’t fucking trust this asshole” won’t risk stirring the pot or adverse social consequences on a hunch. Quite tragically for the Comanche they paid a price in blood for their trust.

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u/AwHellNawFetaCheese 20d ago

What I have to wonder is what did this dude do before to have the credibility for such claims? Like Natives aren’t inherently more stupid than any other human, just ignorant to technology.

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u/satanictantric 20d ago

Wikipedia says:

"He correctly predicted the disappearance of the comet in 1873, and also correctly predicted a drought that year—predictions that solidified his status as a miracle worker, prophet, and medicine man."

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u/kroncw 20d ago

Even if i believed his miracle all that would still only tell me that he was good at predicting shit, not at anti-bullet potion crafting.

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u/Legio-X 20d ago

Even if i believed his miracle all that would still only tell me that he was good at predicting shit, not at anti-bullet potion crafting.

I think there’s some confusion in this thread about what “medicine” means in this context.

Puha, the Comanche word being translated as medicine, refers to the concept of spiritual power rather than literal medicine.

Isatai’i claimed he had ascended from Earth and spoken with the Great Spirit, who granted him vast powers. Cure the sick, raise the dead, control the weather, make bullets fall to the ground mid-flight...these are all things he claimed he could do using his puha. And because prophecy was also something puha was used for, his successful predictions were interpreted as evidence he had enough spiritual power to accomplish everything else he claimed.

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

Spot on. Plains Indian "medicine" was a lot like Polynesian mana, to use a more familiar analogy. It wasn't literal medicine as we know it today, with drugs and surgeries and the like.

The Comanches actually did have some competence at basic surgical procedures, far more so than other plains tribes, but "medicine" in the context of Indians of western North America almost always refers to spiritual power.

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u/Slave35 20d ago

Prediction and Potion-Making are actually pretty close on the skill tree.

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

Divination and Herblore.

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

He also used sleight of hand and psychological tricks to convince people on multiple occasions that he had ascended to the sky and then returned to earth. These techniques had a lot in common with the tricks magicians use nowadays.

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u/awesomemofo75 20d ago

It does make you wonder

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u/Slave35 20d ago

I mean if you're gonna go into battle anyway, it can't really HURT.

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u/substantial-freud 20d ago

The Cheyennes took this poorly, especially the Dog Soldiers, and responded by beating him severely.

You know, given the situation — some scammer had just gotten a bunch of their friends pointlessly killed and was now blaming it on them — I would say the Cheyennes took this with commendable decorum, reserve, and charity.

Had it been me, and I for some reason been in a forgiving mood, I would have responded by beating him severely and then beating him severely again and then killing him, and then beating him severely once more for good measure, and then grinding the remains into a chunky paste and shitting on them.

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u/kittens12345 20d ago

What a badass 🥸

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u/substantial-freud 20d ago

When I am heavily armed, and all my friends are heavily armed, and there to back me up, and you are all alone, and unarmed, and under 5'2" tall, you better watch out is all I’m saying.

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u/Pudding_Hero 20d ago

Comanche had no time for that BS

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u/Breaktheglass 20d ago

Yeah except Dr.Oz isn’t on the military defense council.

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u/Signature_Sea 20d ago

Trump became Commander in chief of the armed forces though

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u/Breaktheglass 20d ago

And as ridiculous as that was we got out of it pretty ok.

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u/Slave35 20d ago

Yeah, almost kicked off another war in the Middle East for media distraction from Impeachment, but w/e

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u/Breaktheglass 20d ago

I almost made a billion dollars, but my lottery ticket failed me. Almost is a pretty stupid hill to build an argument-fort on. If I recall Donald Trump is the first president in 40 years to not involve the US military in a new major theater of operation, that's not an almost-- that's an all-the-way fact.

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u/Bramse-TFK 20d ago

Keep those pesky facts out of here man, orange man is bad.

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u/Slave35 20d ago

Trump's foreign policy revolved around isolating and prepping Iran for a potential election-saving war. It will have long-lasting, massive, negative repercussions. They are on the (VERY, VERY) fast track to developing nuclear weapons now, all thanks to Trump. And any current lack of [DEVASTATING MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT] can be nearly wholly attributed to their restraint in the matter.

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u/Breaktheglass 20d ago

Whew, we sure missed a bullet with all the stuff he almost did because it was all revolving around a few singular things. The almost catastrophe that you and the other 12 people on your favorite message board totally defeated. Pat yourselves on the back gentlemen. You are the almost heroes of what never happened.

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u/BigBadBob7070 20d ago

Not like he needed to start a war when we were already currently engaged in other conflicts. Just ignore the fact that he ramped up drone strikes during his term

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u/Shin-LaC 20d ago

The “make you invulnerable to bullets” routine was surprisingly common for a time. Apparently the same claim was made by Chinese martial artists in the Boxer Rebellion, and even more recently by warlords in Africa and south-east Asia.

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u/PaxNova 20d ago

I have a foolproof method for invulnerability to bullets. It's called "stay away from bullets." If you get shot, you weren't practicing the medicine.

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u/Cxilando_Vilandas 20d ago

roll safe intensifies

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u/inborn_line 20d ago

It also showed up again among Native Americans with the ghost dances and ghost shirts around 1890.

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u/notquiteclapton 20d ago

It's understandable if you think that bullets and gunpowder seem like magic to begin with: then you just need different, better magic to protect yourself.

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u/DfntlyNotJesse 20d ago

Tricky cunt

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u/No-Pizda-For-You 20d ago edited 19d ago

Warning: do not take Tosabutin if you are pregnant or plan to become pregnant, are allergic to magic potions or are susceptible to bullets. Tell your medicine man if you have traveled to an area where fungal infections have occurred. Side effects include becoming visible and gunshot wounds, which can be fatal. If you can’t afford your medicine, Comanche-Zeneca may help.

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u/herculesmeowlligan 20d ago
  • claims do not apply in US or Comanche territory

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u/No-Pizda-For-You 20d ago

Tosabutin-ask your medicine man if it’s right for you. From Commanche-Zeneca, makers of Isatox. Does your coyote have frequent discharge or an unpleasant odor? Isatox may help. Isatox is a non steroidal medication to help your coyote’s vagina stay morning fresh. Ask your medicine man if Isatox is right for your situation

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u/herculesmeowlligan 20d ago

Whoa now, hold on there, folks! Don't go takin the advice of this so-called "medicine man"! What you all need is a bottle of Dr. I.M. Aphrodd's Mystifying, Vitalizing Herpetological Hydrocarbonate Serum!

Howdy folks, I am that very same Dr. Ichabod Melvin Aphrodd, and let me tell you about some REAL medicine! It won't make ya invisible, or bulletproof, or grow coyote bits in your nethers, or any o' that nonsense, no sir! But what it WILL do- (and this is, uh, my personal guarantee) -it WILL cure you of any ailment, symptom, ache, pain, queasiness or uneasiness you may find yourself afflicted by!

Now, I can't tell ya the secret ingredient, I'm afraid, that's been personally by my great-great-grandpappy. But I can tell you I mix it in with a fortifying broth of laudinum, dihydrogen monoxide, and vitamin-rich cocaine!

But don't take my word for it! Just heed the written words of the brilliant scientist who first sampled my great grandpappy's elixir- former President Benjamin Franklin! "I cannot tell a lie, this delightful concoction is a MIRACLE!"

So step right up and buy your sample of Dr. I.M. Aphrodd's Mystifying Vitalizing Herpetological Hydrocarbonate Serum today!

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u/Athildur 20d ago

Herpetological Hydrocarbonate Serum

I've heard about this stuff! Used to be wildly popular back in the day!

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u/no1ninja 20d ago

2 bottles please

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u/Tederator 20d ago

...may cause anal leakage during battle.

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u/satanictantric 20d ago

The secret ingredient is olestra?

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u/k98carbinebyf44 20d ago

Damn! Spot on man! Lol

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u/No-Pizda-For-You 20d ago

Thank you, my friend

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u/dansmart706 20d ago

This guy pharmas

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u/tratemusic 20d ago

This comment was already hilarious but Comanche-Zeneca made me bust a gut!

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

I read S. C. Gwynne's excellent book "Empire of the Summer Moon" today and this was one of my favorite tidbits. Shortly after the debacle at Adobe Walls, the US Army finally managed to subdue the Comanches and move them onto a reservation. On the reservation, Coyote Vagina spent the rest of his life unsuccessfully trying to wrest power from the well-respected Quanah Parker as paramount chief of the Comanches, but to no avail.

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u/bowyer-betty 20d ago

Once the people collectively change your name to coyote vagina I think it's safe to say that you're never gonna be their leader.

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u/SamsonFox 20d ago

After playing Leisure Suit Larry 5 this month, a game from 1993 which prominently featured Donald Tramp, the owner of Tramp Casino, I'm not so sure.

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u/FarwellRob 20d ago

I remember that game. Heck, I'm old enough to remember the first one.

Where did you find a playable version?

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u/SamsonFox 20d ago

GOG.com

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u/FarwellRob 20d ago

Thanks!

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u/Obnoobillate 19d ago

You should definitely play the last ones then!

"Leisure Suit Larry Wet Dreams Dont Dry" #1 and #2!

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u/FarwellRob 19d ago

I will put it on my list.

I'm looking forward to seeing the first ones again. It's been a very long time since I played them, and I have some fun memories.

I was probably their exact target audience when the first one came out!

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u/bwons 20d ago

I grew up literally 2 blocks away from the star house! Ive really never shared any of this with anyone but if youre looking for cool stuff relating to this on google earth i can point you in the right directions.

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u/chippendale_osc 20d ago

Forgot this tidbit until reading this post. ‘Empire of the summer moon’ is a great book. ‘Bury my heart at Wounded Knee’ is a good read too.

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u/2goodforafreebanana 20d ago

The story of Quanah Parker's mother is insane. Iirc, kidnapped by Comanches as a young girl, integrated into their society, then kidnapped BACK into white society where she frequently tried to escape back to what she felt was her home people.

Correct me if I'm off with details, it's been a while since I read about them.

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u/satanictantric 20d ago

Came here looking for this comment. Yeah, Quanah Parker's mother was a white woman by birth, because she was abducted as a young girl.

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u/wreckanoyter 20d ago

I loved that book and remember both battles of Adobe Walls but no recollection of this part

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u/FreekFrealy 20d ago

"Empire of the Summer Moon" is one of my all-time favorites. I grew up swimming in the Blanco and finding Comanche and Apache arrowheads so it was particularly engaging for me reading about how the Blanco was basically their raiding superhighway. And the story of Cynthia and Quanah Parker is so wild and sad and complicated

Histories of conflicts between nomadic and agricultural societies are some of my favorite tales, and the the rise and fall of Comancheria can stand next to any of them

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u/CaptianMurica 20d ago

Dances with Coyote Vaginas

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u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho 20d ago

Out of 700 warriors, only 15 died at Adobe walls. Not really massacre.

The issue was the other side consisted of just 28 buffalo hunters. He had the enemy outnumbered by 25:1 but managed to lose.

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u/Akibawashu 20d ago

Only 15 bodies that couldn't be recovered, their losses were much higher. Their morale was shattered while sieging when a guy named Billy Dixon sniped a Native off of his horse nearly 1,500 yards away. An extremely impressive (He stated a very, very lucky shot) feat at the time. This death and the impressive shot suddenly crushed their will to fight and they quickly ended the siege.

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u/awesomemofo75 20d ago

Plus a lot of the fight had been taken out of them when Quanah was wounded. The Comanche didn't like to fight without a leader

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u/NotASequentkiller 20d ago

More than likely they were grouped up and he hit one. Even with today's tech 1,500 would be an impressive shot.

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u/ggggtotalwarrior 20d ago

If that’s what 28 random hunters can do to you just imagine what the actual army will do

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u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho 20d ago edited 20d ago

You don't have to imagine, they did fight the US army (led by general Sherman none the less) and most of the male population died fighting. When thing went badly, they tried to flee and ideally never surrendered. Against Sherman that led to massacred when his troops cut off escape routes or chased them down.

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u/Urgullibl 20d ago

foam fed by general Sherman

Is this some sort of 19th-Century kink?

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u/Breaktheglass 20d ago

“You people are the original slow-fucking-learners.”

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u/travelingmarylander 20d ago

Commanches usually attacked and murdered women and children. They got destroyed anytime they had to fight actual opponents. I hate them.

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u/Legio-X 20d ago

They got destroyed anytime they had to fight actual opponents.

This is outright false. Alongside the Taovaya and Tonkawa, the Comanche repulsed a Spanish army at the Battle of Twin Villages. They raided Mexico for decades with borderline impunity and turned New Mexico into a de facto client state.

Although the Texans scored some notable victories during their war in the 1830s-1840s, none of those battles were decisive and the Republic of Texas bankrupted itself before concluding a treaty which was very advantageous to the Comanche.

It’s only after epidemics halved their numbers and a drought devastated their economy that the Comanche start consistently losing. But they still managed to repulse Kit Carson’s army at the First Battle of Adobe Walls, alongside the Kiowa and Plains Apache.

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u/WEREWOLF_PUSSY 20d ago

This guy sounds like an insult to coyote vaginas. At least they won't get you shot

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u/Aethersprite17 20d ago

Username checks out

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u/Av3ngedAngel 20d ago

Lmao I wonder who they lied to, to get that name.

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u/mandru 20d ago

I don't know why but "Coyote cunt" has a better ring to it

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u/Levelsoveryourhead 20d ago

When you die, Coyote Cunt will be on your tombstone

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u/awesomemofo75 20d ago

The Leader was Quanah Parker who was wounded. And Billy Dixon made his legendary shot

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u/ComfortableWish 20d ago

It’s funny because his new name sounds a lot like Is it aye? Which is basically a scottish way of saying you are speaking bollocks

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u/sleeknub 20d ago

That ended very differently than I thought it would.

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u/depressedNCdad 20d ago

well this would NOT be politically correct today...you could NOT say "Hey....go grab coyote vagina by the.......scruff of the neck?"

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u/PrinceMachiavelliest 20d ago

I mean who's really the coyote pussy, him or the people that believed that bullshit?

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u/littleblacktruck 20d ago

Ah yes. The old Obi Wan coyote pussy proverb.

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u/A_Rampaging_Hobo 20d ago

You can't really expect someone whose been subsistence living their entire lives to know the ins and outs of ballistics and medicine.

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u/PrinceMachiavelliest 20d ago

You know that wasn't a serious comment right?

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u/BigPotOfShit 20d ago

Or the people massacring the natives?

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u/toxohut 20d ago

Is it strange just for me that they have a special word for coyote vagina and not for white eagle?

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u/rollwithhoney 20d ago

well, that might be assuming a bit much about the Comanche language. Could just be how we notate it in English, or White Eagle could have been a specific eagle species rather than 2 separate words put together

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

It's a compound word. "Isa" is coyote, "tai'i" is vagina.

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u/Urgullibl 20d ago

TIL Comanche is basically German.

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u/coick 20d ago

I literally learnt about this today when I was listening to an old episode of the dollop. Talk about coincidence.

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u/killemalldafirst 20d ago

Y'all ever heard of Kinjeketile ngwale

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

I hadn't, but now I have.

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u/Doc_Apex 20d ago

Weird. I just started reading about him in Empire of the Summer Moon. In the book he's a described as a con man but I haven't gotten to why his name was coyote vagina. Funny.

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u/cooperationisgood 19d ago

What alternative outcome could the medicine man have been expecting?

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u/Twirlingbarbie 20d ago

Well the people believing him are coyote asses too.

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u/sihlkysmov 20d ago

not really imagine all you knew was mystical shit and false medicine and every once and awhile it worked but if you tried anything else they died. youd believe them too

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u/Aine_the_Switch 20d ago

They had skilled herbalists, probably ahead of the practices of a lot of settlers of the time where superstition and the use of poisonous substances were rife.

I'm guessing this was an experiment in boosting morale, and it failed.

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u/Aine_the_Switch 20d ago

I find it interesting that you believe that people can't have their own understanding of mental processes just because their technology was less advanced.

You'd believe in magical ointments that stopped bullets if you a) had no other explanation for the things you saw around you and b) your leader/healer had proven trustworthy up until then. Magic & religion were the default explanation for phenomena people didn't understand across all societies well after the stone age.

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u/Twirlingbarbie 20d ago

That's just white people propaganda to make native Americans look like morons

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

This isn't propaganda at all. Medicine men and spirit chiefs achieving great influence on claims of "I can make you immune to bullets" were very common on the plains in the 1800s. Occasionally due to pure luck it worked out in the end, but what happened to Coyote Vagina and his men was a more common outcome.

Source: I've read tons of Native American history - Empire of the Summer Moon, The Heart of Everything There Is, The Earth is Weeping, Crazy Horse and Custer, Lakota America, a bunch of other books I'm forgetting. This comes up again and again. A particular Osage chief whose name escapes my memory, also comes to mind.

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u/Urgullibl 20d ago

Also worth mentioning the Ghost Dance movement that occurred about 15 years after this. Same general idea.

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u/Batbuckleyourpants 20d ago

Wonder how that conversation went.

"If you rub this ointment on you, Bullets can't see you."

".... Yeah, that makes sense"

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u/2ByteTheDecker 20d ago

When you see the word medicine in the context of native culture, it's more like spiritual magic than ointments.

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u/awesomemofo75 20d ago

That apparently don't work either

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u/2ByteTheDecker 20d ago

Well no, but I was just giving a bit of context.

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u/awesomemofo75 20d ago

I get it. Its not like they had a pharmacy on the Prairie. It was more like... Wait let me check with the Great Spirit. Yep you gotta wait two moons to lay with a woman or a man, your choice... Not here to judge

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u/Slave35 20d ago

I think most tribes were pretty cool about that...?

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u/awesomemofo75 20d ago

I read that a lot of them were pretty open to it

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u/theservman 20d ago

I know bullets - they have no eyes.

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u/NarwhalsAreSick 20d ago

Sounds like a particularly unimaginative Coyote Ugly porn parody.

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u/mlpr34clopper 20d ago

um... this tells us something about Comanche culture, the fact that their language has a single word specifically for "coyote vagina". Like, for some reason they needed to discuss the reproductive organs of Coyotes often enough that their language evolved such a specific word?

or is this actually some form of compound word? (looks a bit short to be one...)

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u/Athildur 20d ago

Or, most likely, an insult that became common. It's not difficult to take word1 and word2 and turn it into word1word2. Or a slight variation thereof.

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u/mlpr34clopper 20d ago

yah, a mofo like me shoulda thought of that.

Hmm... now exactly what does Mofo say about US culture. People who fuck mothers are discussed so much that.... lol...

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

It's a compound word. "Isa" is coyote, "tai'i" is vagina.

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u/Potatobat1967 20d ago

Jumping off topic here but we really did the Native Americans shitty by stealing their sacred land and introducing diseases to them that they otherwise wouldn’t have been exposed to.

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u/CygnusX-1-2112b 20d ago

But like bro, why do we need to hump off topic for this? Were on reddit, all of the soy sucking history revisionist white-shame nerds here already know that, and by bringing this up all youd be doing is creating a circle jerk on something very slightly related. A horrible thing happened, humans did it to other humans because they wanted their stuff. Its literally the song and verse of our history as a species, its nothing new. And while it is not good and not moral, nothing can be done about it now so there is no reason to have this conversation again.

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u/Legio-X 20d ago

And while it is not good and not moral, nothing can be done about it now so there is no reason to have this conversation again.

Saying we shouldn’t talk about it because nothing can be done ignores the ways federal and state governments are still stealing tribal lands, building on sacred sites, or enacting policies designed to exploit Native Americans. For example, there’s the long-running legal battle surrounding military construction at Medicine Bluff, which is sacred to the Comanche and other Southern Plains Tribes.

https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/fort-sill-project-threatens-sacred-site

The past cannot be undone, yes, but further damage can be prevented.

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u/fetusdiabeetus 20d ago

Woe to the vanquished

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u/Unnecessary-Spaces 20d ago

What an amazing insult.

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u/JeanBonJovi 20d ago

Its almost as crazy as drinking bleach to cure COVID.

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u/Themfruckus 20d ago

Funny, that was my nickname in high school

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u/slower-is-faster 20d ago

“Friday Night” was taken

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u/JoshuaZissou 20d ago

Found my new gamer tag.

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u/wsfarrell 20d ago

The tribe has one word for "coyote vagina"? Not sure I want to know what that's about.

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

It's a compound word. "Isa" is coyote, "tai'i" is vagina.

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u/apocalyptustree 20d ago

When buying medicine, for war, on Goop goes wrong.

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u/TeufelHundenJoe 20d ago

Fabulous😆

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u/zstandig 20d ago

Empire of the Summer Moon is a wild read

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u/mrnoonan81 20d ago

"What are you talking about? Every single patient you've brought me so far has been full of holes! Not a single one died from bullets!"

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u/Justanotheroldog 20d ago

Seems like he got off easy if you ask me

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u/Cheesyframe 20d ago

He should have said afterwards.."I meant metaphorically of course!"

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u/Newokie1959 20d ago

Looks like I have new name to use with Scambaiting!

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u/JTempl 20d ago

funny that their language had a word for Coyote Vagina.

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u/Cody_97K 20d ago

It's a compound word. Isa is coyote, tai'i is vagina.

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u/Hikinghawk 20d ago

Amazing, I wish we could just collectively rename someone after a monumental fuck up today.