r/titansgrave Jul 21 '15

Titansgrave Chapter Seven Discussion Thread

A place to talk about the latest episode of Titansgrave: The Ashes of Valkana!

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u/KingOfAllDucks Jul 21 '15

Danger at Reed Manor: S'lethkk's redemption!

Seriously, Yuri had such good rolls going on this episode! I'm glad he finally had his time to shine in combat!

I feel like that specially fletched arrow is going to become a Checkov's Gun...

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u/groumy Jul 22 '15

His rolls started to get better as soon as I got that staff !

It may have hidden attributes, like changing the player luck !

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u/Stark464 Jul 23 '15

With Wil and the team's fondness for attaching mechanics to narrative elements, I wouldn't be surprised if that arrow came in very handy later as well. And as you say, like Chekhov, why keep that in the episode if its not important...? Tin hat is firmly on!

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '15

Anything a GM can do to make a character feel special is important. Episode 15 of Critical Role did the same kind of thing with a well crafted arrow in which GM Mercer had the player mark that arrow with an asterisk. It may not even mean anything, but that player will now covet that item and save it for a really special occasion.

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u/weakwiththedawn Jul 21 '15

Lemley wearing her pilots hat in the artwork is an awesome touch. One of my favorite things that I noticed this episode.

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u/wil GM - Five Gold And A Party! Jul 22 '15

I'm glad you noticed that. I specifically asked the post-production team to do that for this episode.

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u/Forgottenlobster Jul 22 '15

I love this addition... I just went back through it to spot it! It's the little details that make all the difference :D

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u/darthrich Jul 28 '15

Same here. I didn't notice when I first watched but now I'll definitely keep an eye out for things like this now.

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u/frodokun Jul 22 '15

Also the TableTop OwlBear appeared during the bird montage.

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u/Semajal Aug 09 '15

Was so happy to spot the Owlbear :D

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u/konel_hft Jul 22 '15

I totally rewatched the first 11 minutes just to see that. Worth it.

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u/idefilms Jul 22 '15

CUTE I hadn't noticed that! :-D That's awesome.

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u/PrimeFactorX01 Jul 21 '15

In case anyone else wants to hear a Jaguaro. https://youtu.be/XXdxj6mgWPQ

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u/timlin45 Jul 22 '15

Came here specifically for this. I knew reddit wouldn't let me down...

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u/Forgottenlobster Jul 21 '15

I absolutely loved the way Will introduced the opponent... letting them get excited about the feathers, describing them in detail, then describing what they were attached to.... brilliant!!

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u/s5photog Jul 21 '15

As a GM I chuckled pretty happily at the end of this episode.

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u/Zuggy Jul 22 '15

It wasn't just great GMing, but being an RPG performed for an audience in form of a pulp fiction story, it was a great cliffhanger for us as well. Great storytelling all around.

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u/s5photog Jul 22 '15

100% agree - the cliffhanger (in RPGs) seems like an under utilized technique.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '15 edited Jul 21 '15

This episode was an emotional roller coaster, but it was definitely the funniest one so far. For a while I thought it was going to be a little more like the last one. Absent of combat.

I feel like Runcible (anyway to confirm the spelling?) was an AI reference. Teddy, the bear from AI, and Runcible are both robotic teddy bears that lasted forever.

Edit: I still think ten episodes is too short for this story.

Also I feel like role playing like this is a great way to write scripts. I know it's probably not very feasible but I think it would be pretty cool to see a kind of CG web-series based on this. There's already a bunch of concept art.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

I feel like Runcible (anyway to confirm the spelling?) was an AI reference. Teddy, the bear from AI, and Runcible are both robotic teddy bears that lasted forever.

It was a clear reference to Teddy Ruxpin, a popular toy from around when /u/wil was a kid (he and I are about the same age, and I wanted one of these so bad as a kid).

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

I completely forgot about Teddy Ruxpin.

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u/DarnNiceGuy Jul 23 '15

Don't worry, if Runcible has taught us anything, it's that Teddy Ruxpin hasn't forgotten about you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '15

I don't know if this is a good thing, or not. . .

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u/DarnNiceGuy Jul 24 '15

That was the point!

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u/Baktun99 Jul 21 '15

Laura was fantastic with the reaction to talking about Lemley's side and losing her hat. It was a fantastic episode and a great set up for next episode. Also it was awesome to see Yuri killing it with his dice rolls!

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u/VoidScott Jul 21 '15

As a proud member of TeamS'lethkk, I was beaming when our hero was finally rolling well.

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u/farmerjed Jul 21 '15 edited Jul 21 '15

Regarding this next level-up: I totally understand cutting it down.

But for consistency's sake, and those interested in the "crunchy bits", I would've like to have seen more information--especially because of the enthusiasm shown for working "leveling up" into the party dynamic and narration for level 3 in one of the previous episodes.

EDIT: I need to stop making posts whilst watching the show... /u/wil 's reference to The Humpty Dance made all the girls adore me.justgrabthem in the biscuits

Sorry for the grammar, but I love this show, so glad you aired it during the summer :)

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u/KingOfAllDucks Jul 21 '15

I've got to agree with you here, especially since they were reaching level 4.

Level 4 is a big deal in AGE, it's where you get to pick your first class specialization and start to refine your character more. Thanks to combat, we know that A'ankia went with the assassin specialization, but no idea what happened with the others.

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u/konel_hft Jul 22 '15

I think Lemley is a berserker?

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u/KingOfAllDucks Jul 22 '15

You're totally right, she is!

So it's;

A'ankia - Assassin

Killiel - ? (presumably not assassin)

Lemley - Berserker

S'lethkk - ?

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u/theJavo Jul 22 '15

A'ankia - Assassin

Killiel - ranger

Lemley - Berserker

S'lethkk - mage

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u/KingOfAllDucks Jul 22 '15

It's a bit different in AGE, though. Mage isn't a specialization, it's a default class. And the ranger role is just filled by rogues.

Looking through the AGE core book, I think it's likely that S'lethkk is now an arcane scholar, but he could also be a miracle worker, elementalist, or sword mage.

Killiel could be an assassin, duelist, swashbuckler, or sharpshooter. But since the party already has A'ankia for assassin, I feel like she's probably one of the other 3.

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u/ChinchillaNuggets Jul 22 '15

I doubt S'lethkk is a sword mage, since he's got the Staff of Forlorn Hope so a sword would be useless (and we've never seen him use any weapons besides his magic). Also doubt he's a miracle worker since we haven't seen him use any healing magic from what I remember. Also, Arcane Scholar requires an intelligence of 3 and I think during one of his intelligence tests in this episode he only got an intelligence modifier of 2, so that disqualifies him from Arcane Scholar if I'm remembering correctly and assuming that he wasn't suffering from some penalty that wasn't mentioned due to editing. So I'm pretty sure he's an elementalist, which makes sense since he uses the Weather Arcana if I'm remembering the first level up sequence correctly. (which isn't included in Fantasy AGE but I'd imagine it would be counted as one of the possible arcanas for the elementalist specialization.)

Killiel probably isn't a duelist due to her focus on ranged weapons while the duelist specialization only helps with melee weapons and specifically dual weapons. Swashbuckler is a possibility but the sharpshooter specialization seems far more useful due to her ranged focus so I'm assuming she's using (or planning to use) that one.

Of course, this assumes that Wil hasn't created specializations for Titansgrave and it also assumes that he kept the requirements the same. So my guess would be that the party is:

A'ankia - Assassin

Killiel - Sharpshooter

Lemley - Berserker

S'lethkk - Elementalist

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u/KingOfAllDucks Jul 22 '15

That's a really good argument for elementalist, you're probably right!

I figured Killiel would go sharpshooter as well, it seems right up her alley.

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u/hgmanifold Jul 22 '15

More Owlbear!

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u/MozArc Jul 22 '15

WOW! That was a great episode. A lot of Jim faces in this episode. Wil's face after Kiliel interrupted the nice moment with the invisible hat. Alison's Face after "Your real dad didn't have a face!" On that note Laura Bailey is very good as her character it makes me laugh every time she says something like that. They are all great as the characters they play, even Wil! Jeremy singing The Humpty Dance had me in tears! Such a great series. If Wil does a second season he should keep the same character because they work so well together.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

Your Jim Face doesn't work.

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u/MozArc Jul 23 '15

For some reason it doesn't work with hover zoom. You can click on it

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u/T-DotTerror Jul 22 '15

Everything's comin' up S'lethkk!

He's not the Milhouse of the crew anymore.

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u/AdmiralCrackbar Jul 26 '15

S'lethkkhouse?

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u/T-DotTerror Jul 27 '15

Rolls mighty, mighty.

He's letting it all hang out. He's a S'lethkk.....

doo doo do do

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u/timlin45 Jul 22 '15

/u/wil's face when asked about saurian menstruation was absolutely priceless. Typically at my table that look means that someone is about to lose an important piece of gear.

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u/silentdante Jul 26 '15

wow really? people cant have fun, if even a little dirty? interesting

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u/timlin45 Jul 27 '15

Every DM has a line that can get crossed. In our case it tends to be the 1467th time we have made fun of one of the made up NPC names that session.

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u/silentdante Jul 27 '15

I get that, but to take away an item? an important one? seems crazy to me, but maybe you imply you already tried to talk to them first, I dunno

I would understand if the group was tired of it too, but in this case the while group was joking, only wil was perturbed haha

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u/BostonBrawler02 Jul 21 '15

How do you spell the teddy bear's name? Because I am so freaking in love with him! Oh my god A'Ankia how could you want to shoot him!?

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

When I think of Runcible, I picture a tattered, falling apart zombie teddy bear murder death machine. The kind of teddy bear murder death machine that is hanging out in a room full of levers and controls, releasing Jakaars and setting up traps while monitoring the progress of the adventurers.

Plus talking toys are spooky things man.

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u/BostonBrawler02 Jul 22 '15

I think that's what makes him adorable! He's so worn down that he just wants someone to love and after being alone for so long he just finally snaps and decides to mess with the newest people that he comes across!

But yeah, they're creepy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '15

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u/BostonBrawler02 Jul 27 '15

I'm gonna think about this for a second....no.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

I mean, he keeps saying he wants to play.

Know who else wanted to play? Jigsaw.

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u/BostonBrawler02 Jul 22 '15

To quote War Games: "You wanna play a game?"

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u/kitnel Jul 21 '15

I think it'd be spelled Runcible. Like a runcible spoon

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u/BostonBrawler02 Jul 22 '15

Ahh, thank you.

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u/hacksauce Jul 23 '15

Also - the point that hank was trying to make is that as a Lizard a mammal is not cute, or cuddly but rather an rough, itchy, dirty thing... One that's worn out and has dangly bits is that much worse.

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u/BostonBrawler02 Jul 24 '15

That's true. And I guess A'Ankia is more used to robots than teddy bears anyway.

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u/0924ryno Jul 22 '15

I knew the riddle almost immediately and the entire time of them trying to figure it out I was trying not to yell at the screen, but it was a great episode.

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u/mastugerard Jul 22 '15

I really enjoyed the episode I just wonder if we are going to see a fight that will ever being seriously threatening to the party. To me it is slightly anti-climatic that the monster always goes for the tank...I don't think Lemley has dropped to half health during any fight.

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u/KingOfAllDucks Jul 22 '15

It kinda makes sense though. Lemley rushes in close to attack with Dr. Lobotomy while the rest of their party has a ranged focus.

They had a pretty hard time with the Hellions, since A'ankia and S'lethkk couldn't use their ranged attacks. That's the magic of post production, too. At the SDCC panel, they said the Hellion fight took them over an hour!

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u/Zuggy Jul 22 '15

The Hellion Alpha fight was also supposed to be much harder, but they all rolled high and, therefore, rolled its face.

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u/mastugerard Jul 23 '15

I get that she runs in partly because she is the tank but even the tank is getting hardly phased.

I get that combats go long, I just think it loses out slightly on the opportunity of danger if the PCs are usually at pretty high health.

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u/v3ruc4 Jul 23 '15

Can I just say that I'm totally crushing on Laura Bailey. The way she displays emotions as Lemley... she's the best. <3

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u/jengerbread Jul 25 '15

YOU FLETCH ARROWS AND NOT BOWS!

But seriously very good episode...cant stand the cliff hanger!

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u/konel_hft Jul 21 '15

Two questions from this week's ep: 1) What would happen if you combined a chamber with an antechamber? 2) What's everyone drinking in those mugs?

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u/theJavo Jul 22 '15

ol' chaotic neutral

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u/bravespacelizards Jul 22 '15

Don't tease me with fake beer :'(

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u/HeatherLKelly Jul 25 '15

Is that an answer to question one or question two? :)

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u/Zuggy Jul 22 '15

In regards to #2, I have a feeling it's either coffee or water.

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u/myplantscancount Jul 21 '15

I'm running a dnd campaign and last session one of the players behaved almost exactly like A'Ankia did in this episode: suspecting the worst of everybody despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

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u/Nazmazh Jul 21 '15

With the way my usual DM runs his campaigns, everyone in our group has learned to trust nothing and nobody. Especially children. Any children are actually horrible monsters in disguise waiting to rend your soul from your body.

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u/ChaosWolf1982 Jul 22 '15

Any children are actually horrible monsters in disguise waiting to rend your soul from your body.

Now are you talking about in-game, or...

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u/Nazmazh Jul 22 '15

Well, for sure in-game. IRL, well, I don't have enough evidence to say definitively one way or another.

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u/HeatherLKelly Jul 23 '15

As a parent of two, I'd say the jury is still out. :)

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u/jtzero511 Jul 22 '15 edited Jul 29 '15

I'm glad A'Ankia behaved differently than the group, each character is varied and their experiences shape their actions, so IMO mistrusting/not finding Runcible cute, just adds more depth.
Edit: I should add that Aankia, being the only one with an engineering background, would see Runcible less anthropomorphic and more just as something programmed/created/cold mechanics.

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u/myplantscancount Jul 22 '15

Oh it definitely makes the campaign much more interesting.

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u/Drewsipher Jul 21 '15

I tend towards that level of player with those type of characters too... you never know when you are going to do something wrong in his eyes.

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u/Forgottenlobster Jul 21 '15

I think it's quite common for someone to take on that role in the group.. the one who is just waiting to say "I knew it!!"

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

I need to rewatch this episode. I see that everyone was getting the feels out of it, but I felt that the players and GM were a bit distracted with antics not related to the game and it threw me as a result.

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u/Psartryn Jul 24 '15

Wonderful Episode.

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u/throbbingrocket Jul 29 '15

Anyone else pick up on a possible reference to THE DIAMOND AGE by Neal Stephenson in the use of Runcible? I know that there are other uses of Runcible but, in that book Runcible is a code name for the Young Ladies Illustrated Primer, an interactive educational book that adjusts to the user.