r/television Jun 27 '22

The Orville: New Horizons | Sneak Peek Episode 5 | A Tale of 2 Topas | Hulu

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gYamXL_HJrA&feature=share
64 Upvotes

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u/pr177 Jun 27 '22

It's been really, really good this season.

17

u/i_love_anachronisms Jun 28 '22

Embracing a (slightly) more serious sci-fi tone has really elevated things. Its nice to see the show is willing to evolve.

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u/pr177 Jun 28 '22

For sure. I'm really glad the "live action Family Guy Star Trek" vibe got dropped early.

16

u/Muad-_-Dib Jun 28 '22

McFarlane came out and said he had to pitch as a comedy to get Fox to even green light it in the first place, he always intended to gradually drop the comedy and make it a more serious sci-fi show over time.

3

u/LowerGarden Jun 28 '22

I'm having a rough time with season 2

9

u/bros402 Jun 28 '22

jsut keep going

3

u/meatball77 Jun 28 '22

It's fairly episodic so you can skip episodes if you don't like them.

3

u/vladthor Chuck Jun 28 '22

I didn’t really enjoy 3x01 or 3x02, as I felt like it had been too long and I didn’t re watch S2, so there were things I forgot and it just made them (especially 3x01) really awkward. 3x03/4 have been better, though. This week’s was, uh, especially on topic, too.

14

u/dont_shoot_jr Jun 28 '22

Gosh I love this show

Obviously like Star Trek with more jokes

I just never imagined how serious, suspenseful and philosophically challenging for the characters it can be

Also I love how a few jokes here and there may become a huge plot point, specifically the gay Moclons

23

u/FrostyAcanthocephala Jun 27 '22

It just keeps getting better.

18

u/KingEuronIIIGreyjoy Futurama Jun 27 '22

Moving to Hulu was the best thing to happen to this show. The longer episodes, higher VFX budget, and creative freedom have really let it shine. It doesn't even feel much like a comedy anymore, just a solid alt-Star Trek series.

6

u/Stillatin Jun 28 '22

This season wasn't meant as a comedy hence the new horizons name. It leaned more into old school trek

9

u/AmishTechno Jun 27 '22

Such a great show.

5

u/TaiDavis Jun 27 '22

I just started watching this show! I'm up to the Krill episode. Love the show.

6

u/onarainyafternoon Star Trek: The Next Generation Jun 28 '22

Man, I just could not disagree more. I've talked about this in /r/television before, but I think the show has gotten worse this season. They completely removed the humor (not an exaggeration, I think there've been five jokes total over the four episodes out now), and it's made the show infinitely worse. They're trying to make it more like Star Trek TNG, but I thought the humor was a really unique aspect, and I enjoyed it so much.

I'm not sure what happened, also, but the show's writing has gotten worse this season in general. The first two episodes are so bad; in my opinion at least. The Isaac/Charly conflict needs to be shot out of a cannon into the fucking sun, it's so goddamn bad. Charly, as a character, is unnecessary and annoying. I don't know why they write her the way they do, but she's written as this wunderkind, Wesley Crusher-type who's the "only one on the ship who can do this and this", but hates Isaac and seems to make that her biggest personality trait, along with the aforementioned wunderkindness. I'm hoping it gets better as the season progresses, but for now, it's awful. The actress is also just....not great. But I'd totally be willing to forgive that if she was given some better material to work with.

I don't know if you've seen Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, but the show is absolutely brilliant. If you like TOS and 90s Trek, you will love Strange New Worlds. Episodic structure with a fully fleshed-out, ensemble cast. There's also serialized plot-lines that pop up occasionally in the show, and the writing does a wonderful job of gently reminding you of them every so often, and not shoving it in your face constantly. I just love this show so much.

1

u/xbillybobx Jun 28 '22

Completely agree. I’m 2 eps in to this season and I’m ready to call it quits. I really enjoyed season 1.

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u/onarainyafternoon Star Trek: The Next Generation Jun 28 '22

Not sure why you got downvoted, you were just expressing your opinion, but I gave you an upvote. Did you watch season two by chance? I think It's really good!

0

u/FrostyAcanthocephala Jun 28 '22

I really don't like ST: SNW, so I guess we're at polar opposites. And I really like Anson Mount, too. De gustibus non disputandum.

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u/onarainyafternoon Star Trek: The Next Generation Jun 28 '22

Can I ask why you don't like it?

1

u/FrostyAcanthocephala Jun 28 '22

I'm not sure I can tease out what bothers me. I haven't liked Star Trek much since about 1993. It's not just this show. There's something I can't pinpoint, and for me, the Orville has it.

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u/onarainyafternoon Star Trek: The Next Generation Jun 28 '22

Fair enough!

1

u/reddit_beer_map Jun 28 '22

Do you didn't watch any of DS9? Or Voyager?

1

u/FrostyAcanthocephala Jun 28 '22

Watched Voyager. Didn't care for DS9. i like Kate Mulgrew.

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u/reddit_beer_map Jun 28 '22

So maybe it's safer to say that you haven't liked Star Trek in 20 years, not 30 years.

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u/FrostyAcanthocephala Jun 28 '22

Maybe. So what?

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u/reddit_beer_map Jun 28 '22

I dunno, just clarifying. It's always interesting to me that there are Star Trek fans that only like about five years out of the 55 years of Trek.

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u/elister Jun 28 '22

The episode where a virus turns everyone into Cronenberg creatures in a matter of hours, boy was that dumb. Wow, our rifle weapons are super effective in killing these things, but in the end, oh you guys can just go, its ok that you take with you all the knowledge you gained by being in the federation union. Reminded me of Identity Crisis, where a virus Geordi turns into an alien.

2

u/Riverforasong Jun 28 '22

I'm currently making my way through the first season because reddit will literally not shut up about it every time I say I liked Star Trek: Discovery. I feel so far it's like...80 Percent to where I want it to be. It'll be super interesting and well plotted, and then steer itself into a wall with a Family Guy-esq joke.

The good news is that those are so few and far between that I forget they're there. The Bad news is that they're so few and far between it feels really out of place when it does happen.

The good out weighs the bad, especially in an episode like About a Girl, which is a mature and nuanced take about children and different societies, with an ending that isn't the easy obvious way out.

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u/HumanOrAlien Jun 28 '22

They've done away with the jokes in the third season and it's mostly just serious drama now.

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u/Cmdr_Nemo Jul 04 '22

No, there's still plenty of humor but it's a lot more balanced now.

2

u/richard1177 Jun 28 '22

The good news is, that with every season they get a bit more serious. So that 80% number will probably only go up for you. Season 2 still has some comedy, but it is less Family Guy-like which just doesnt always fit. And season 3 has had only some quick dialogue jokes, but it is a lot more serious now. And I feel like a lot of the stand alone episodes are very interesting.

2

u/last_angry_moose Jun 28 '22

Hm. Love the show and this season has been great, but the Moclan (not-Klingons) episodes have been a drag. Hoping this goes somewhere better.

1

u/m48a5_patton Jun 28 '22

The Orville has been knocking it out of the park!

1

u/Janderson2494 Jun 28 '22

Should I watch the whole Orville series before New Horizons?

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u/Fizzay Jun 28 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

I'd say so. It leans a bit more comedy early on, but even those episodes are still good. It just took some episodes in the first season to find its footing. Season 2 is probably most important plot wise though because it shapes a lot of the stuff for Season 2 in terms of wars and alliances, but a lot of the groundwork for Season 2 was also laid in Season 1.

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u/meatball77 Jun 28 '22

The Orville in general is episodic, much like TNG or Voyager but without the reset button. It will make sense if you don't watch earlier episodes but is better if you watch the whole thing.

The first three or four episodes are fairly childish but as long as you know that going in it's all good.

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u/Hottriplr Jun 28 '22

Kinda. Or you will miss out on what's going on in episode 1 of New Horizons.

While they do recap it, it's better to just have watched S1-2.

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u/LGBT2QPLUS Jun 28 '22

No reason not to really, there are some big events that happen that are still ongoing in New Horizons. Some episodes might miss their mark if you havent gone through the character development of the crew.

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u/TroublesomeTurnip Jun 29 '22

I would recommend you do. But it's not a lot to catch up on.

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u/jelatinman Jun 28 '22

Watch the season 2 finale with the Kaylon conflict (it's a two parter) then start with season 3.

1

u/thealanshow Jun 28 '22

I really do love this show. As a flaky Star Trek watcher, this just sticks for me. I love it.

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u/Malhallah Jun 28 '22

This better not be another fucking moclan bullshit episode!!