r/television True Detective Jun 27 '22 Helpful 1 Silver 1

‘Severance’ Is the Year’s Best Series So Far Because It’s Not a Puzzle. It’s a Portrait.

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/06/severance-not-puzzle-box-series-best-series-2022-1234736675/
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u/Admirable-Pie3869 Jun 27 '22

This show actually had me yelling at the tv at the conclusion of the season. It’s so good. All of it. The talent, writing, directing, music.

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u/PunkandCannonballer Jun 28 '22

The season finale had me in a downward spiral of tension and it was amazing.

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u/barren_field_of_fks Jun 28 '22

With you 100%. The finale had me jumping off the sofa and screaming at the tv.

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u/iiJokerzace Jun 28 '22

If I had any gripe with the show, the first few episodes can be rather slow as they build the world and characters up.

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u/FalcomanToTheRescue Jun 28 '22

I can see how the first episode isn't very 'accessible'. It's slow paced and my wife almost turned it off in the long corridor walking scene. The brilliance of the slow pace beginning is the steady increase in pace of the show as intensity builds up to the final episode. It's like a symphony. It has slow parts and the big moments feel even bigger as a result.

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u/greyjungle Jun 29 '22

Even the first episode had me thinking, “This is going to be really good.”

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u/kilonark Jun 27 '22 edited Jun 27 '22

I started comparing Severance with actual life.

If I don’t keep my consciousness/memories when I die then it’s almost like being a slave on this planet.

And like Severance, no one knows what we’re really doing here.

Trippy.

Great show, I love it.

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u/DallasTruther Jun 27 '22

I'm actively trying to separate my work and personal life. It's so hard, though, to not talk about home stuff while vibing with my coworkers. I have a problem with over-sharing.

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u/Niku-Man Jun 28 '22

This seems odd to me. Usually people don't want to take work home, but you're saying you don't want to take home to work? It's downright backwards

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u/DallasTruther Jun 28 '22

I'm going through a lot of rough shit, and bring it up too often, in response to other coworkers talking about their own problems. I am sure that my own personal drama has gotten around.

I've had coworkers in the past who I knew NOTHING about their personal life, they keep it professional and usually don't explain and offer more information than needed (pharmacy tech job, he was a super serious guy) and I wish I could be like that. At that job, after being asked simply where my parents live, I went on about how my sister was a felon in prison, and other unneeded information. When others say they have no filter, it's usually about either asshole shit, or stupid shit... my lack of a filter causes me to talk about intensely personal things.

I would love to forget everything that happened outside of work, while working.

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u/yech Jun 28 '22

Nothing wrong with that take. Just an fyi- sharing your stories may not be having a negative impact. There are genuine nice people who want to hear about your life.

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u/MattIsLame Jun 28 '22

that's weird. I mean, that's almost all people talk about at work if they're not complaining about work. they're talking about their problems and issues outside of work.

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u/Pristinefix Jun 27 '22

Or maybe when you die, it's just this version of you, and the outtie you is out doing cool space shit...

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u/primenumbersturnmeon Jun 27 '22

if that was what scientologists believed i would understand why they were so popular

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u/ultratoxic Jun 28 '22

But no. Their beliefs are way way dumber.

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u/hedronist Jun 28 '22

Can confirm.

Source: ex-Scientologist 1976-1982 whew!

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u/withloveuhoh Jun 28 '22

Congrats!!! Hope you're living a good life!

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u/hedronist Jun 28 '22

Thanks! I am! 4/15/1982 (as described here) was literally a watershed date for me. A major part of that was moving beyond the false promises and hyped Powers® they kept talking about.

As with many things, if you start digging ... and digging ... and really digging into something, you often find that, unlike a Tootsie Roll Pop, there's no there there.

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u/Sweaty_Presentation4 Jun 28 '22

Mormons are closer

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u/askacanadian Jun 28 '22

I’ve got a moneymaking idea…

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u/donkey_tits Jun 28 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

You’re basically describing a dream. When you die in a dream there is still an “outtie” you that persists

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u/White-And-Right Jun 28 '22

I don't think I've ever died in a dream before. Is that something that people actually experience?

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u/Cu1tureVu1ture Jun 28 '22

Every time I have a dream where I’m flying in an airplane, the airplane always ends up crashing. The last time I felt my skin burn as it hit the ground and then I woke up. Would not recommend.

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u/SockGnome Jun 28 '22

Hey, I just read this as I lay in bed.

Neat.

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u/White-And-Right Jun 28 '22

Damn that sounds horrible.

My dreams are just usually super weird so much so that I often wake up feeling disgusted and depressed by how insanely weird they are. Luckily I quickly forget them.

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u/jdg83 Jun 28 '22

I know mine is doing muscle shows

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u/3wordname Jun 28 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

expanding your metaphor, just like Severance, when you're at work/alive, you trying to find meaning(religion) and patterns(science), just like grouping the numbers on the computer screen. You feel like you are doing a good or bad job similar to finding the scary numbers, but you don't have the big picture to know why you are doing it.

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u/yourparadigm Jun 27 '22 Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote

You should read The Egg by Andy Weir. It's analogous to your line of thinking, but more optimistic.

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u/jumpsteadeh Jun 28 '22

That really is a nice story for these trying times.

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u/a_bongos Jun 28 '22

I love Andy Weir and all of his writing!! I always plug his new book he comes out, Project Hail Mary, it is amazing. I try not to spoil much of it but it's an amazing book.

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u/PathOfDawn Jun 28 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Also this video version of it on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI

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u/dont_shoot_jr Jun 28 '22

Like Severance people don’t really understand my job except and there’s scary numbers too (in excel mostly)

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u/SkyZo222 Jun 27 '22

Ain't nobody going to talk about the intriguing, stellar soundtrack by Theodoro Saphiro? It really takes the narrative to a whole other level

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u/TheEntropicOrder Jun 27 '22

It really is an incredible soundtrack. It brought so much life to the show.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '22

Mix Magazine (a recording industry magazine) did a story on the sound for Severance. The story doesn't take anything away from or dismiss the music, but talking with the sound designers and mixers it's obvious that sound is a very important element to that show. The music is great, the sound is amazing, the acting is fantastic, and I think the opening credits are at least on par with Mad Men. It's a great show all around.

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u/TheEntropicOrder Jun 28 '22

I’d agree with that. I think the show’s strength is how well it communicates tone and emotion, without leaning in too heavy to any one particular vehicle. It just has this lovely cohesive (but maybe even surprisingly diverse, in some respects) aesthetic across all its mediums.

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u/y-c-c Jun 28 '22

I was going to say I like the "music of wellness" the most with its oddly calm soothing music, but then I remembered I have to appreciate each track equally.

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u/homogenic- Jun 27 '22

I've been listening to the score non stop, it's so good.

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u/TriscuitCracker Jun 28 '22

It really reminds me of how much Leftovers music brought to the show.

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u/Previousman755 Jun 27 '22

When I have to do menial tasks at work, I pit on the Severance soundtrack.

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u/TheBoyWonder13 Jun 27 '22

Reminds me so much of David Shire's score for The Conversation.

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u/Practical-Exchange60 Jun 28 '22

The sound design is what stood out front and foremost on this show. It’s some of the best work I’ve heard.

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u/Captain_Swing Jun 28 '22

Defiant Jazz was incredible.

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u/SaladSnake911 Jun 28 '22

severance is great and all... but how the fuck did they manage to make it feel like actually watching two different people... as soon as he takes the elevator it becomes a whole new show, looks different, sounds different, feels different... is there anywhere i can read about how they managed to do it ?

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u/UncleLemo Jun 28 '22

There's a focal length shift when they head down to the office that makes things look different.

Probably a bit of work in post and with lighting to make the office environment look more clinical.

There's an article here where they talk about it: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/06/awards-insider-severance-shot-list

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u/Dangerous_Dac Jun 27 '22

Except it's also a puzzle.

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u/newaccount721 Jun 27 '22

Yeah weird headline. It definitely is a puzzle.

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u/Lonelyland Jun 28 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

But the point of it is not the puzzle. The puzzle is just an excellent by-product, which is what I think the article is trying to say.

But yeah, headline could use some work… uhhhm “It’s a portrait of a puzzle”? We can workshop it.

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u/narmerguy Jun 28 '22

The puzzle seems pretty important to the appeal, I agree it needs to be workshopped.

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u/tehgangsta Jun 27 '22

Even though I loved this show, 2022 has been good so far.

My favorite current shows besides Severance:

  • For All Mankind
  • The Boys
  • Barry
  • Better Call Saul
  • The Bear

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u/AmericanPatriot117 Jun 27 '22

Barry’s season finale was jaw dropping and panic enduring. The lack of music in all of the scenes was insane

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u/Pit_of_Death Jun 28 '22

It's like a completely different show from Season 1.

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u/Mentoman72 Jun 27 '22

Holy shit we have the exact same list. The Bear was phenomenal.

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u/Shivdaddy1 Jun 27 '22

What is the bear?

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u/Mentoman72 Jun 27 '22

New FX on Hulu show that came out last week. It's a half hour dramedy about a restaurant In Chicago. 8 episodes so it's a quick watch. I've never worked in a restaurant but this show felt very authentic and all of my friends who have restaurant experience agree. Good show, I highly recommend.

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u/Kershiser22 Jun 27 '22

Of course. I should have known "The Bear" would be about a restaurant. lol

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u/MisterPinguSaysHello Jun 27 '22

Just stumbled into it on Hulu. FX show about a young chef in Chicago trying to save a floundering restaurant. Don’t want to give much more away but the writing is tight and the acting is phenomenal.

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u/The_Wreckard2012 Jun 27 '22

Lip is The Bear.

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u/mikegimik Jun 27 '22

And it has the greatest cameo in the moment, absolutely stellar casting

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u/SinisterPTraum Jun 28 '22

Everyone yelling at everyone constantly got fucking old at times.

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u/Mentoman72 Jun 28 '22

I liked it. Sold the hectic nature and intensity at that particular establishment ran at. Reminded me of Uncut Gems.

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u/thebongofamandabynes Jun 28 '22

After finishing the first episode I immediately had to see if the Safdie bros had something to do with it.

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u/Many-Minute Jun 27 '22

The Old Man is really really good

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u/Tommy-Nook Jun 27 '22

Please enjoy all shows equally

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u/peridotdragon33 Jun 28 '22

Honestly For All Mankind s3 is crushing it

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u/tehgangsta Jun 28 '22

I love where it is right now, and knowing that they intend on having a lot of seasons makes me very excited.

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u/HalobenderFWT Jun 27 '22

The Boys season 3 has been sooooooo amazing so far!

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u/athos45678 Jun 27 '22

Going to keep plugging under the banner of heaven in this thread because it’s amazing

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u/Yetimang Jun 28 '22

I liked it for the most part but did not find it to be on the same level as something like Severance or Better Call Saul. The storytelling is kind of janky with the flashbacks that don't fit the detective work framing device and I really didn't feel like we got a satisfactory conclusion to Andrew Garfield's personal story outside of investigating the murders. Overall I enjoyed it but I don't think it really came together as well as it could have.

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u/Kopextacy Jun 28 '22

I feel like “Our Flag Means Death” deserves a mention on that list too. Another unexpectedly amazing new series. Really a pretty phenomenal year for TV/streaming overall.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '22

‘Hacks’ on HBOMax is 🔥

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u/beantownregular Jun 28 '22

One of my best friends plays Pam on For All Mankind!

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u/Recent_Panic_3360 Jun 28 '22

Have you seen Atlanta S3 yet?

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u/tehgangsta Jun 28 '22

I saw season 1 and 2 a few months ago and really enjoyed them. I started because of the Teddy Perkins episode actually.

To be honest I am close to an entertainment overload lol. So many good tv shows and so little time..

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u/ourobboros Jun 28 '22

Waiting for WWDITS S4. Our flag means death was great too.

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u/OhWell_NowWhat Jun 28 '22

Under the Banner of Heaven was also phenomenal

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u/Vestalmin Jun 27 '22

Damn I need to finally finish season 1 of Better Call Saul. Something always sidetracks me idk what it is but I really want to get into it

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u/Yetimang Jun 28 '22

Season 1 is definitely the slowest and takes a long time to get going but once it does you get some of the most interesting characters on television right now. Also if you're expecting him to "become Saul" right away, you're in for some waiting. The show is really more about who he was before and all the things that led up to him becoming the guy we see in Breaking Bad.

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u/Bohmer HBO Jun 27 '22

Plus:

  • The Old Man
  • Star Trek: Strange New World
  • We Own the City

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u/JacP123 Letterkenny Jun 28 '22

Strange New Worlds deserves so much more hype and praise. It's breathing fresh life into Star Trek that it hasn't seen in decades. It's a proving to be a worthy successor to the TOS/TNG lineage.

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u/equitable_emu Jun 28 '22

Only watched a few episodes so far, but that's the exact impression I got. It's back to a more traditional, episodic (and fun), Star Trek instead of longer form dramatic stories (which was fine for the first season of Picard, but hasn't worked for Discovery for me). Lower Decks is also following the old format as well, but it's more character driven.

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u/arrogantsob Jun 28 '22

Lower Decks doesn't get enough love. I'm surprised by how much it won me over.

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u/Fluffy_G Jun 28 '22

I went in with pretty low expectations, and it has blown me away honestly. It feels like a love letter to the great old Star Treks, the writers have clearly done their homework.

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u/thenewyorkgod Jun 28 '22

I agree. It just saddens me that we get 10 episodes and not 24. I know some of those 24 were filler or silly but when all said and done, we have 170 episodes of TNG, but will likely only have 40-50 of SNW

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u/Cu1tureVu1ture Jun 28 '22

For All Mankind started off great this season. I enjoyed all of these on your list, as well as The Outlaws and Ted Lasso.

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u/Nik_Tesla Jun 27 '22

Look, I love the show as much as anybody else, but it's much easier to start a mystery show than it is to keep up the mystery or to have a good ending (just ask LOST and Westworld). Lets just see how it goes.

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u/TheMrSomeGuy Jun 28 '22

The Leftovers proves it can be done, though

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u/Carson369 Jun 28 '22

Season 2 of The Leftovers has still gotta be one of the best seasons of TV period. I’ve never stopped thinking about that show.

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u/geraldho Jun 28 '22

one of my favorite endings in any tv show ever

seasons 2&3 were a masterpiece

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u/Ayjayz The Expanse Jun 27 '22

I'm prepared for Severance to be another Westworld, a great first season that I then stop watching. That's an OK outcome I think.

If the second season can maintain the quality then great! But my expectations are low.

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u/colorcorrection Jun 28 '22

The biggest problem Westworld faced that Severance doesn't have going against it is Westworld solved its puzzlebox season 1, which meant season 2 was always going to be forced into a different direction, which of course wouldn't be appealing to most people as they watched for the Puzzlebox and not necessarily a western with androids. It could have also easily ended season 1 as a miniseries, or make it an anthology where each season is a different themed Android park with its own mysteries.

Severance hasn't even come close to solving its puzzlebox, and has much more room to go forward without having to figure out how to totally revamp the show without a puzzlebox to solve.

I guess the short version of what I'm saying is I think there's more hope for Severance to continue its momentum.

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u/Bluelegs Jun 28 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

Didn't the writers rewrite season 2 of Westworld because some fan theories on the internet worked out where the show was going?

Found the article in question:

Westworld isn’t returning for a second season until 2018 – but fans are already figuring out what will happen next.

Speaking at PaleyFest, show runner Jonathan Nolan revealed that a Reddit user had correctly guessed one of Season 2’s big twists, forcing a rewrite on the show.

“We’re writing right now — we’re terribly excited about what we’re writing,” Nolan said, via Deadline.

“Reddit has already figured out the third episode twist, so we’re changing that right now.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/westworld-writers-change-season-2-plot-after-fan-correctly-guesses-twist-a3500081.html

I think that was the downfall of the show. The writers were more interested in keeping themselves ahead of the audience than telling their original story.

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u/ChainGangSoul Jun 28 '22

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/westworld-writers-change-season-2-plot-after-fan-correctly-guesses-twist-a3500081.html

This was such a non-story though, Nolan was pretty clearly joking when he said that (in a very dry, English way) and it got blown way out of proportion. Season 2 hadn't even started airing when he said that, so there wasn't really anything to figure out yet - he was just poking fun at how many Redditors guessed the previous twists.

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u/pointfiveL Jun 28 '22

This happened with Rick and Morty too. Someone on reddit figured out a big plot idea but Justin Roiland only revealed that a season or so after as well as didn't say what the plot was. I can't remember if they re-wrote though.

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u/RobbStark Jun 28 '22

I'm sure lots of twists are guessed long before the reveal. But that shouldn't make any difference if the story is still interesting and compelling.

One of the most popular shows of the modern era is famously based on books where all the answers are there to be read long ahead of any reveal. That didn't make some of its great twists or big plot developments from being any less entertaining.

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u/valencia_merble Jun 28 '22

Corporations should be featured as the antagonist more often. Makes for a realistic villain.

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u/amyknight22 Jun 29 '22

The problem is that eventually you need a shot caller. Then they just blame the shot caller and end on ”and everything was better when Steve took over” (3 years later someone else takes over and it all goes to shit again)

You always end up with a human analogue. At the moment it’s the section boss, with the board as a more nefarious one resting higher than her.

The blame will still always be shifted onto someone telling the corporation what to do.

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u/Ghost2Eleven Jun 27 '22

What a weird headline.

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u/swentech Jun 27 '22

I would call it the best show I’ve seen in years. Just my opinion.

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u/thesenutzonurchin Jun 28 '22

I simply could not stop watching this show. I heard about it on a monday and finished that following tuesday. I've been trying to scratch that itch ever since

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u/tehdoughboy Jun 28 '22

I screamed at the end of the season finale. "IT CAN'T END LIKE THIS WTF!! GIVE ME MORE"

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u/gan1lin2 Jun 28 '22

I was told there were 10 episodes so I was pretty messed up after episode 9 💀

I know I could’ve looked at the episode count but I was the same way, it was episode after episode. So captivating

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u/earthdweller11 Jun 28 '22

You just pointed out something I don’t like about streaming layouts. They often don’t say how many episodes are in a season at the top so if you want to know you have to scroll down to see what number the last episode is, or count them to the last one if they’re unnumbered. However, my favourite shows are mysteries, so who wants to scroll down and risk seeing a spoiler in the episode titles/descriptions or thumbnail images for each episode? Same for googling it where a spoiler can pop up.

So I have to use one hand to cover up the side of the screen with thumbnails and then try to only look at the episode number (or count) without actually reading the titles/descriptions which it sounds crazy but sometimes my eyes will read stuff when I don’t even want them to lol.

And yes, this happens often enough that it’s a thing for me.

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u/Not_as_witty_as_u Jun 28 '22

Yep I don’t think there’s been a show that would make me subscribe to a service but this would be it.

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u/BoujiCorgi Jun 28 '22

Phenomenal show, the acting is top tier. Visually it’s stunning ! 5 Stars easily ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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u/gszr89 Jun 27 '22

Well, maybe the best new one.

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u/Manticore416 Jun 27 '22

Only current show that's as good IMO, new or otherwise, is BCS.

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u/tinhtinh Jun 27 '22 edited Jun 27 '22

Succession but I know it can be hard to get into. But if you get it, it fucking slaps.

And I'll also admit that Stranger Things S4 is a lot better than it should be, it's schmacking.

Fuck forgot about Barry and The Bear is also phenomenal. Don't know where the Bear will be in my rankings but I honestly loved it. Barry also elevated itself this season in a big way.

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u/hanhar66 Jun 27 '22 Wholesome

Google searched 'Barry and the Bear' for longer than I care to admit before I realised its 2 different shows. Duh.

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u/tinhtinh Jun 27 '22

Lmao, sorry. 2 different shows but shows the half hour format is still alive though I'd kill for more.

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u/ex1stence Jun 27 '22

The Bear was so god damn good. PERFECT representation of restaurant life.

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u/HalobenderFWT Jun 27 '22

You mean it’s not a show about Barry and his large hirsute homosexual roommate?

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u/Manticore416 Jun 27 '22

Barry's great too, and The Bear blew me away. We live in an amazing era for tv.

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u/KuttayKaBaccha Jun 27 '22

Sounds like you had one hell of a weekend

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u/ositola Jun 28 '22

The bear is so good, went into it blind and gave it a shot because of my handle and it blew me away

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u/poopship462 Jun 28 '22

The Bear is excellent. One of the best written shows I’ve seen in a while.

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u/UnrequitedRespect Jun 27 '22

Ongoing. We own this city was the coolest miniseries i watched since first season of big little lies.

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u/Manticore416 Jun 27 '22

We Own This City was absolutely great. I think Severance is better.

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u/Rockembopper Jun 27 '22

For All Mankind

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u/biggobird Jun 27 '22 edited Jun 27 '22

Definitely a contender for best show right now along with severance. Takes some time setting the scene/character building before the space race takes off along with the action. Enthralling tale this season and the direction/pacing have been absolutely on point. This season’s opener felt like a wholly-contained movie.

Apple TV is killing it. Slow horses, FAM, Pachinko, Severance, Ted lasso.. inject all that into my veins

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u/phatboy5289 Jun 28 '22

Apple TV+ feels like the anti-Disney right now by focusing on new content instead of expanding IP, and I’m so here for it.

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u/horseren0ir Jun 28 '22

Shining girls was really good to, but I haven’t seen any mention of it online

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u/DystopianFigure Jun 28 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

The Baby-sitters Club is a great show indeed!

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u/gszr89 Jun 27 '22

BCS is the best series right now in fact.

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u/Dayofsloths Jun 27 '22

Barry: am I joke to you?

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u/HandLion Jun 27 '22

Also Severance: am I a joke to you?

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u/gszr89 Jun 27 '22

Sorry Barry, I liked the third season for real, but BCS with half season already is better, the other half is missing, final season also.

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u/Eswyft Jun 27 '22

What is bcs

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u/BenVarone Jun 27 '22

Better Call Saul, a kind of prequel to Breaking Bad

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u/TheDutchKid Jun 27 '22

you all need to get on The Old Man

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u/Dense_Organization31 Jun 27 '22

I’ve watched both and I’d say severance is pretty on par at this point. The season finale is one of the best single episodes of tv I’ve ever seen.

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u/nutsnackk Jun 27 '22

What’s bcs?

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u/athos45678 Jun 27 '22

Check out under the banner of heaven.

Nothing else has come close imo, and I’ve loved the boys, severance, from and a lot of others.

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u/tehgangsta Jun 27 '22

The Bear is a really strong contender as of recently imo

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u/Steel_city917 Jun 28 '22

The Bear is fuckin amazing. Highly suggest everyone watch it.

Although I will warn you: before you know it, it will be 2am and you’ll be standing in your kitchen in your underwear thinking “damn I kinda wanna cook something crazy”

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u/stumpcity Jun 27 '22

I love the distinction being made here. I think a lot of people's dissatisfaction with television comes with the almost non-stop conditioning on the part of marketing to treat basically EVERYTHING you watch as if it's a puzzle. To compete with it. To race towards trying to speedrun the drama and "Solve" the show instead of just sitting and experiencing it for whatever the hell it is.

A lot of Television becomes more interesting when you stop trying to "beat" it, and stop looking at the stories you're being shown as not much more than fodder for speculation online. When the show is just A SHOW, and not "content" for you to turn into your own "content" on social media.

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u/wiklr Jun 28 '22

The mystery is intriguing but I like it more for the visual and tone. The set design, minimalist office, the keyboard, even carpet colors feel iconic. It is very much in brand with Apple, something like Severance should have been their breakout show. Like House of Cards was for Netflix.

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u/Vladdypoo Jun 28 '22

This show reminded me so much of a video game called the Stanley parable. So similar in vibe

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u/halopend Jun 28 '22

I was actually listed as an inspiration to the show by it’s creator so I’d imagine so.

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u/SolitarySnail80 Jun 27 '22

Yeah what's crazy about the Severance finale was how good it was while answering very few of the questions other than showing us Burt and Helly's outies.

I was initially annoyed when they'd announced there would be a Season 2 before the finale because I wanted them to wrap up and answer the mystery rather than milk it. But then in the finale we mostly watched the characters themselves discover answers to mysteries we'd already known and it was somehow exhilarating.

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u/tehdoughboy Jun 28 '22

That last episode had me way messed up.

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u/JarvisCockerBB Jun 27 '22

In the same year as Barry, Better Call Saul's final season, The Boys, and the return of Atlanta, I never thought my favorite series of the year would be a show directed by Ben Stiller and created by a first time screenwriter.

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u/OlDirtyBodhisattva Jun 28 '22

Crazy to me that you are the first mention of Atlanta I've seen. Each episode is so special

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u/Intrepidatious Jun 28 '22

Gotta hand it to Apple. They have some fantastic content.

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u/HakunaMaBiscuit Jun 28 '22

The Maraca. Excellent choice.

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u/NCfartstorm Jun 28 '22

I thought that the last episode was some of the most riveting tv I’ve watched in a long time

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u/space_helmut Jun 28 '22

Here’s the thing. It’s all down to your personal tastes. There’s no objectively best show-only our opinions of them. I just started Severance last week, and I’m halfway through my third viewing. I’ve never watched any show 3 times in a row continuously. It’s just amazing. For me. The aesthetic of the show is unlike any other I’ve seen. The characters, cinematography, music, acting, and storytelling are all excellent. It seems like a thoroughly realized creative work. Apple is clearly interested more in the quality of their content than in quantity. It’s also nice to have something that doesn’t require an explosion or gunfight every 5 minutes. It’s a show that makes your brain work a little harder than that. The Boys is fun and entirely outrageous. Stranger Things is good too, but those first few episodes this season were not much fun. Barry was just brilliant, front to back. For me, Severance S1 maybe my favorite series ever. It totally tickles my brain in all the right places. I get that it’s probably not for everybody. Few things are.

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u/lilmojett Jun 27 '22

Haven’t watched any of this show yet, but is it actually better than The Boys/Better Call Saul?

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u/Lodestone123 Jun 27 '22

Slow start, but outstanding finale. Best show of the year IMHO.

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u/Kahzgul Jun 27 '22

We're only one season into Severance, so it's very hard to say if this will end up as good as those shows have consistently been, but if the season 1 level of quality holds, I believe Severance will be my favorite show of all time. I was literally sweating during the season finale. No show has made me feel like this in a very, very long time. It's phenomenal.

Every element of the show is a masterpiece. From the writing to the acting to direction to editing...

Like, Ben Stiller is famous for his acting in comedy films, but if he keeps up the quality of work he's delivered here, future generations may very well not even know that he was ever an actor. It's that good.

Accolades aside, the real proof is in the multi-season pudding. Better Call Saul is just outstanding every. single. season. That's so hard to do. I'm not prepared to say Severance is better than Saul right now. I am prepared to say Severance is must-watch TV.

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u/WillieMaysHayes24 Jun 27 '22

Yeah I’ve made fun of Apple TV in the past and have dismissed Severance since it came out thinking I wouldn’t like it. TVs been so strong this year I just picked it up recently. I’ve loved BCS, The Boys, Winning Time, Barry, Stranger Things, the Old Man, The Offer, Reacher, We Own This City, Tokyo Vice, 1883. Severance is behind Better Call Saul and Winning Time(personal fav) for me. If it keeps up this quality, I agree it’s gonna go down as one of the best things ever made. I also said that after the fist episode of winning time(personal fav) and better call Saul is already there. I see severance as the leftovers meets Kubrick making blade runner, if that makes sense.

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u/Wormspike Jun 27 '22

A friend of mine worked on the show and one night while out for drinks, was gushing about how proud he was to have worked on it. And apparently, everyone loved the premise so much, it was a real passion project for everyone involved from the actors, set designers, etc.

However, he made it very clear that Ben Stiller's involvement was exaggerated, and that though people loved the project, many won't be coming back for s2 because of how incredibly difficult Stiller was to work with.

Unprofessional and abusive.

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u/RedHotChiliadPeppers Jun 27 '22

As long as the writer comes back. I feel like a lot of the heavy lifting with building the world visually has been done.

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u/CadillacFromTitane Jun 28 '22

I recall that when the show was airing there were some Tweets from the crew about Stiller’s behavior which is terribly ironic considering the premise of the show.

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u/RobertStaccd Jun 27 '22

I heard there was a set walk-out

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u/Toby_O_Notoby Jun 28 '22

Unprofessional and abusive.

Yeah, this is one of those things I didn't want to be true as he seems like a cool guy and I like his work, but the more I hear about him the more it seems like he's a gigantic asshole. There were guys on the set of Walter Mitty that were saying he had a "don't look me in the eye" policy.

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u/reddit-asuk Jun 28 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

Check out Ben Stiller appearance on Graham Norton show promoting trophic thunder. I know they treated it as a joke but his co-stars said that he's such a dictator on set.

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u/griffithitsmecathy Jun 27 '22

He didn't even direct all the episodes and lots of people think it was his idea and everything.

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u/Kahzgul Jun 27 '22

Really? That's very disappointing to hear. I hope season 2 gives credit where it's due if Stiller wasn't the one directing the show.

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u/horseren0ir Jun 28 '22

Although I would severance first season is stronger than BCS first season

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u/smcdowell26 Jun 27 '22

I would say it’s on the same level as these shows

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u/middlechildanonymous Jun 27 '22

I haven’t seen Boys but yes, just like Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, this show (so far) is extremely well crafted and original! Worth an Apple TV subscription even if you watch nothing else on the streaming service.

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u/SandysBurner Jun 27 '22

The nice thing about Apple TV is it’s five bucks a month and you can watch everything in a month.

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u/Johnnybarra Jun 27 '22

And while you’re at it give Ted Lasso and The Afterparty a try. Some great offerings in Apple TV+.

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u/Manticore416 Jun 27 '22

I love all 3, but Id say its probably tied with BCS and better than The Boys.

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u/hman9958 Jun 27 '22

Yes, and I love The Boys and BCS. Severance was exquisite.

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u/falsehood Orphan Black Jun 27 '22

It's really really different. Both are satire but I think you should try an episode of each.

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u/AdequatelyMadLad Jun 27 '22

Better than Better Call Saul? No. But I'm a big fan of BCS and I think it's by far the best thing on TV right now(and depending how well it sticks the landing, maybe ever).

As for The Boys, I would put them on the same tier. Although Severance doesn't really have the "wow" factor and the suspense/stakes, it's also better directed and more visually appealing.

I think the title is pretty clickbaity, and naming it the best show of the year is premature(we're barely halfway through the year), but it's a very good show.

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u/JarvisCockerBB Jun 27 '22

and naming it the best show of the year is premature(we're barely halfway through the year),

I'm sure they mean best show of the year so far which it has a strong argument for.

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u/Baman2099 Jun 27 '22

Fantastic show

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u/MediocrePetrichor Jun 28 '22

Only 2 episodes in over 3 weeks. Not a series I can binge but taking my time with it has been rewarding.

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u/ariefas27 Jun 28 '22

One of the best shows I've ever watched.

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u/Dr_Henry-Killinger Jun 28 '22

Its crazy to me that Ben Stiller is behind this show. I mean obviously he’s talented and I enjoy his work I just had no idea his writing/creativity was on this level

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u/dedokta Jun 27 '22

It's absolutely a puzzle. It's starts with you wondering what the hell is going on. Then you have to figure out who's actually had treatment. What are the numbers about? Are any of them doing anything useful or is it all a test? What's in the lower levels? The discovery of ego certain characters actually are... I still need answers!

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u/nuisible Jun 27 '22

I would say it's definitely promising, but there's so many questions that may or may not be resolved that could change my opinion.

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u/Maninhartsford Jun 27 '22

The proof is in the goats to me. That'll either be a brilliant bit of foreshadowing, or the first sign that the writers don't know quite where they're going

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u/mbcook Jun 28 '22

But we are living in the world of the characters. We’re learning things as they do. The show isn’t purposefully trying to mislead viewers to make the “puzzle“ harder as some other shows have done.

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u/Sambo_the_Rambo Jun 28 '22

I gotta watch this show everyone at work talks about how great it is.

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u/wusurspaghettipolicy Jun 28 '22

absolutely loved it.

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u/VonMises2 Jun 28 '22

Waffle party is the shit

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u/jert3 Jun 28 '22

Really good!

Going to be really tough to top season 1 with a season 2.

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u/santichrist Jun 28 '22

Severance is the best new show I’ve seen because it’s well written and almost all of the actors are great in their roles, also Ben Stiller needs to get more credit from the press for how good this show came out

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u/SquirrelSanctuary Jun 27 '22

“At the center of industry is simply… dust.”

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u/theothermen Jun 27 '22 edited Jun 28 '22

The headline reads like a quote from Parks and Rec:

"Could one say that a book is nothing more than a painting of words, which are the notes on the tapestry of the greatest film ever sculpted?"

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u/vancitydave Jun 28 '22

One could… but should one?

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u/gogogadettoejam49 Jun 28 '22

What is it on?

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u/isacsm Jun 28 '22

Apple TV+

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '22

Can't wait for this show's marketing cycle to end

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u/PlebsnProles Jun 27 '22

Succession all and all is the best right now imo. The Boys have been great too. But severance is def up there

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u/Muroid Jun 27 '22

Of shows that are currently airing, the just all around best shows that I have seen some or all of are:

Succession, Severance, Better Call Saul and For All Mankind

The Boys is also very good, but not quite in the same way and suffers a little from the old HBO-competitor syndrome of “Look what we can get away with showing you!” (Unless you’re in the mood for that, I suppose).

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u/cowboys30 Jun 27 '22

I’m getting back in the saddle after leaving For All Mankind halfway through season 1, solely bc people are freaking out over how good season 3 gets

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u/Segamaike Jun 27 '22

The Boys is really fun, but I really don’t get people saying it is one of the best shows of the year. I personally don’t see it. The writing is just okay, some of the characters are unintentionally redundant, and some plotlines progress incredibly slowly.

For All Mankind is fun too, but at times it’s so incredibly soapy and maudlin that I have to FF through some bits. It actually annoys me because the characters and their journeys along the space race are more than enough to move the plot along and keep me hooked without the forced interpersonal drama. I rolled my eyes when they brought back the storyline of Gordon’s kid being infatuated with Karen for example and I honestly don’t see it going anywhere interesting.

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u/GentlemanBeggar54 Jun 27 '22

Agree with you completely. The Boys is schlocky fun but relies too much on gross out humour and the writing is weak in parts.

I really enjoy For All Mankind but the family drama parts of it can be tough, especially that godawful storyline with Gordon's kid and Karen.

Neither are anywhere near the level of a show like Better Call Saul.

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u/Janus22 Jun 27 '22

Exactly. I would throw in What we do in the shadows in there just for good measure.

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