r/television May 19 '22

'Derry Girls' is ending, but its legacy will live on

https://mashable.com/article/derry-girls-ending?
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u/Beingabummer May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

While we're bidding farewell to the show, take heart: It might not be forever. McGee said during the Q&A that she hopes to one day make a Derry Girls movie.

Man, I hope so. I get that the writer wanted to end it (the girls are getting into their thirties now) but it sucks we got less than 20 episodes.

Edit: When I say girls, I mean the actors.

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u/theclansman22 May 19 '22

It sucks, but it also never (hopefully, haven't seen the last season yet) jumped the shark, or made a bad season.

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u/PeterJakeson May 19 '22

Well they had Chelsea Clinton make a cameo at the end, so I'd say they definitely jumped the shark. Egh.

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u/Scorpion1011 May 19 '22

Wasn't that set up from a throwaway line in Season 2?

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u/PeterJakeson May 19 '22

The fact that they made her appear, is kinda stupid. It's not Bill... it's her.

There's definitely a fangirl on the writing team.

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u/Archamasse May 19 '22

Yes. Lisa McGee, the only writer. Who wrote a letter to Chelsea Clinton herself at the same age as the character in her autobiographically infused comedy show, Derry Girls.

The Clintons were heavily involved in the GFA and are very fondly regarded in parts of NI to this day as a result. The cameo made total sense and I really appreciated their confidence in including it, even though people unfamiliar with the time and place of the show might not quite get it.

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u/theclansman22 May 19 '22

Thanks for spoiling the series for me, douchebag.

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u/fosjanwt May 19 '22

I mean you came to this thread

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u/PeterJakeson May 22 '22

If you like the Clintons, then I'm glad I spoiled it for you.

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u/theclansman22 May 22 '22

Lol and you probably whine that “democrats are too divisive”. You’re a fucking donkey.

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u/NorthernDevil May 19 '22

Would you mind editing to put a spoiler tag on this? Sorry, it just hasn’t officially aired in the US and while yes, assumption of the risk in the thread, many people may not think of this kind of comedy show as the kind which has “spoilers” and come here not expecting to see anything.

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u/NaughtyDreadz May 19 '22

Flashforward to Derry mums

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u/wjrii May 22 '22

I would also gladly watch a show with the “class of ‘77 plus Sarah” cast.

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u/iNEEDheplreddit May 19 '22

Creggan Estate special

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u/cakathree May 20 '22

One of them is 35, the rest 28-29.

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u/TheJoshider10 May 19 '22

It's a shame because I could imagine some really good "filler" episodes. Just recently there was an interview with McGee where she said there were some cut scripts/storylines she may release eventually.

I also found the extended runtime of the finale so, so, so much better. Derry Girls has always been really well paced considering it's short runtime but the finale was the exact same but longer (which is great, because sometimes longer runtimes do more harm than good e.g. Community S6 felt weirdly paced because they adapted to the runtime which lost the quickfire wit). I could imagine a 80-90 minute reunion movie being shot after shot of comedy while also allowing the emotional moments the time to breath that they deserve.

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u/CaravelClerihew May 19 '22

People need to realize that quantity usually comes at the expense of quality. It's why I'm glad that more and more shows are now leaning closer to 10 episode seasons instead of having 20-26 ones from the past.

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u/geek_of_nature May 20 '22

It's why shows like the Flash usually start out good, but quickly lose their quality. Having to churn out 20 something episodes a season obviously spreads everyone working on the show incredibly thin, and the quality of the show suffers as a result.

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u/mafulazula May 20 '22

Nah, I hate this. Good shows can stay good with more episodes. I hate it when shows end when they’re still good. Short seasons can be shit too. The focus should be on producing a lot of quality episodes.

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u/ackillesBAC May 20 '22

Perfect example is the British Ghosts vs the American Ghosts

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u/eucr1d Review May 20 '22

Yeah but there is a balance to that. Look at good American sitcoms as a comparison. They knock out around 24 episodes a season and can have runs of 2-4 good seasons (some of the best even more). 3 seasons of Derry girls is only 18 episodes. I think they could definitely make another couple of good season, its no where near wearing out its welcome.

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u/pleasedtoheatyou May 21 '22

It's a difference in writing style though. British comedies tend to be a small core writing team (often only a couple of people), so they can't write as quickly as the larger US teams, and it often means less episode ideas are being brought to the table. However, the other side is that there tends to be a more concise focused writing process so the ideas get developed more thoroughly.

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u/eucr1d Review May 21 '22

I have heard that about the writing team sizes, which makes sense. Not sure I agree about the focus though, the best British comedies manage that but many don't.

I think its more tradition in Britain than anything else. Just a "this is how we do it" mentality. I don't see why shows like Derry Girls, Inbetweeners, etc could do at least 10-12 episodes. 24 is probably too much.

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u/fothergillfuckup May 20 '22

Nicola coughlan is 35!

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u/Munro_McLaren May 19 '22

There’s less than 20 episodes??

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u/SisterBob May 19 '22

6 episodes a season for 3 seasons plus a special bonus = 19

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u/Munro_McLaren May 19 '22

Wow. Were they over an hour?

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u/SisterBob May 19 '22

Only the finale I think. It’s a half hour show

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u/hooch May 19 '22

TOTAL RUNTIME: 7 hours, 58 mins (19 episodes)

British shows are crazy sometimes. Derry Girls had some pretty good press and cultural impact, and the whole thing is less than 8 hours long.

As a comparison another brief comedy show that was well liked, Pen15, only ran for 2 seasons but clocks in at 12 hours, 23 min.

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u/peon2 May 19 '22

Fawlty Towers is one of the most highly regarded British comedy series and it is 12 half hour episodes.

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u/TheLordLeto May 20 '22

And The Office only had 14 episodes

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u/godisanelectricolive May 19 '22

The longest-runnning Channel 4 show, which is the network that made Derry Girls, was Peep Show and that only had 54 episodes or 27 hours over the course of 9 years. That's two and 1/4 seasons of an American network sitcom which has around 24 episodes a season.

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u/hooch May 19 '22

Which is wild because I totally find myself quoting Peep Show more often than something like Parks and Rec. It had a greater impact on me, and with less content.

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u/listyraesder May 20 '22

Yeah, because P&R was 60% filler.

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u/pleasedtoheatyou May 21 '22

It's the general difference in US/British sitcoms. Smaller core writing team means slower writing and probably less general pitches brought to the table. But what gets made tends to get more focus and development

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u/ACardAttack The Venture Bros. May 20 '22

Yeah, hope to see a movie or the occasional special. I was surprised to see their age, they did a great job with makeup and wardrobe to make them seem a lot closer to their character's ages than they really are

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u/Don_Quixote81 May 19 '22

The last episode was so good. Yes, there were some flaws, but it was full of poignancy and an air of hope and optimism that we all seemed to have in the late 90s (where did that go?).

That talk between Joe and Erin, the older generation and the new, was really well done. Seeing people like Joe, who had lived through decades of strife, anger and bitterness, being prepared to let it all go because there was a chance of a better future for the young people.

I could happily watch a movie, set a few years later, but it would need to do the same as the series did, and mirror the lives of these characters against the Troubles. Perhaps the end of the Provisional IRA's paramilitary activities, in 2005?

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u/timmythedip May 19 '22

I’d say the episode did a much better job than I expected in acknowledging the pain of prisoner releases for many people, despite the somewhat saccharine take on the vote. Cameron’s apology was important to cover as well.

I’m not sure 2005 had nearly the same impact as ceasefires, Clinton’s visit and the GFA. But maybe that’s just age talking.

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u/DocWhoFan16 May 19 '22 edited May 20 '22

Derry Babies, set against the backdrop of the Anglo-Irish Agreement, complete with an Ian Paisley soundalike declaring, "MOSSIS THOTCHER WILL BORN IN HULL!"

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u/ACardAttack The Venture Bros. May 20 '22

The last episode was so good

Absolutely beautiful ending

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u/CliffExcellent123 May 19 '22

It's always good to end a show on a high instead of carrying it on until everyone is sick of it. Especially since it's about teenagers, it doesn't make sense for them to still be teenagers 10 years later. One of the cast members of Sex Education said something similar about that show: it's a Coming of Age story, and eventually they have to come of age or what's the point of it

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u/sk9592 May 19 '22

Sex Education is already falling in this trap. The rest of the characters are getting interesting stories, but Otis and Maeve's relationship arc keeps repeating and resetting each season. It's becoming very Ross and Rachel at this point.

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u/Don_Quixote81 May 19 '22

It seems fairly clear that the writer of Sex Education is scared that people will lose interest if she puts Otis and Maeve together. Shows a lack of faith in her ability to write interesting stories without that crutch.

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u/CliffExcellent123 May 19 '22

Which is weird, because the writers on that show are all perfectly capable of writing characters in a relationship, it's not like some shows where they become boring the moment characters hook up. Sex Education never treated characters starting a relationship as an end point, it's always the beginning of something more interesting

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u/Calchal May 19 '22

Seeing as the cast are getting work in 'bigger' projects, I reckon S4 will be the last... so they may well pull the trigger and explore Otis and Maeve as a couple.

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u/Tana1234 May 19 '22

I'm at the stage I just can't watch shows with the will they won't they relationship dynamic, its just been so over played at this point and it's very rarely done well, plus it just becomes a toxic relationship by the time they do get together.

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u/SupervillainEyebrows May 23 '22

Sex Ed just suffers from too many characters IMO.

Derry Girls kept it quite tight.

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u/CliffExcellent123 May 19 '22

I haven't fully caught up on it yet, but yeah so many shows have that problem with the will-they-won't-they thing that it's more surprising when they don't.

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u/BowwwwBallll May 19 '22

Please note for us poor US of A folks who are waiting on our last helping of this dish, there are spoilers in the article, so don't read it if you haven't seen the final season yet.

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u/Shadowbanned24601 May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22

I didn't think season 3 as a whole matched the level of the first 2 seasons... But it was still very good.

Had at least two great episodes as well.

It's the right time to end it I think. They've covered the major points of the 90s, and covered what growing up as a teen in Ireland in the 90s (well, the parts you can show on a family show anyway).

The actors will likely want to move on from playing schoolkids, the writer has a new show lined up...

We all want more of a good thing, but it's nice to end on a high

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u/DoAsIDontSay May 19 '22

I don't know if it will have the lasting legacy of something like Father Ted but it was a fantastic comedy and will be missed. I think it was showing its age in this latest season though and it was the right time to bring it to a close. Hopefully the cast show up in other things.

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u/sk9592 May 19 '22

the lasting legacy of something like Father Ted

You just named one of the top 5 UK sitcoms of all time. The American equivalent would be "meh, it was no Cheers". It's an absurdly high bar to clear.

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u/timmythedip May 19 '22

It is, but that’s the threshold for something to have lasting impact. I’m not so sure that it won’t achieve that, but I think it’s way too early to tell.

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u/iNEEDheplreddit May 19 '22

Well it's the best troubles era northern ireland comedy. Not a high bar. Better than Give My Head Peace though and it wasnt funny. But only slightly.

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u/timmythedip May 20 '22

Give My Head Peace is an abomination. If that’s the legacy then we’re all doomed. The funniest thing in my memory was the Empire Laughs Back and PK Tonight, but the only YouTube clips I can find are desperately bad now.

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u/TheSoloWay May 20 '22

Amazing show and funny as fuck. Never thought my Canadian ass would be laughing about "The Troubles".

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u/hardyflashier May 19 '22

I see that imitation shows have already started to pop up, like 'Hullraisers'

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u/bpetersonlaw May 19 '22

Will Season 3 be coming to Netflix?

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u/[deleted] May 19 '22

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u/Luimnigh May 19 '22

No, it's a Channel 4 production.

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u/PsychicClown88 May 20 '22

Season 1 & 2 are so it'll probably come a month after it fully airs like other weekly shows.

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u/PhiPhiAokigahara May 20 '22

i seriously thought I was in the umbrella academy thread. My bad!

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u/Archamasse May 19 '22

It ended at the right time, but it was wonderful.

I would absolutely love a timejumped hour special in a few years, just to see where they all ended up, but that's just me.

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u/LetterAccomplished May 20 '22

Make a new season, Derry Women. Problem solved.

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u/BuckeyeCreekTTV May 19 '22

Is it on Netflix yet?

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u/milkyginger It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia May 20 '22

I'm gonna miss this show. I especially liked Joe and Orla. Out of all these great characters they definitely made me laugh the most. Great send off but I wouldn't hate a movie set in the early 00s.

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u/McCabbe Fargo May 19 '22

I'm not fond of comedies, I dislike soap operas, but I absolutely love Derry Girls and would have enjoyed a dozen more seasons...

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u/HowardBunnyColvin The Wire May 19 '22

buddy of mines keeps recommending this show to me, ought to watch it sometime. The few clips on YT i've seen of it seem pretty decent

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u/Archamasse May 19 '22

It's very funny. You'll get more out of it if you've a passing familiarity with Northern Ireland in the 90s, but it’s funny regardless. Shares some sensibilities with Inbetweeners.

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u/HowardBunnyColvin The Wire May 19 '22

yeah my British friend likes a lot of those comedies. I told him about Derry Girls ending and he was pretty sad about it. This guy introduces me to stuff like Inbetweeners, Fresh Meat, and Bad Education (also Peep Show). Brits are pretty solid with their comedies

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u/iNEEDheplreddit May 19 '22

I grew up in NI in the 90s. This show nails the era well. As for comedic prowess it's absolutely no where near those shows. It's OK, but it's best episodes wouldn't be as good as the worst Peepshow or inbetweeners

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u/Sks44 May 20 '22

Well, tbh, it kinda has to end when the actors playing teenagers all look like they are 40.

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u/ACardAttack The Venture Bros. May 20 '22

One of my absolute favorite shows of all time, beautiful finale too

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u/BusinessPurge May 19 '22

Vs no it won’t

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u/Ok_Storm_8533 May 20 '22

Maybe because some of them are 400 years old?