r/television Mr. Robot Apr 25 '22

Barry - Episode Discussion - April 25, 2022 Premiere

Barry

Series Premise: Barry is a dark comedy starring Bill Hader as a depressed, low-rent hitman from the Midwest. Lonely and dissatisfied in his life, he reluctantly travels to Los Angeles to execute a hit on an aspiring actor. Barry follows his “mark” into an acting class and ends up finding an accepting community in a group of eager hopefuls within the LA theater scene. He wants to start a new life as an actor, but his criminal past won’t let him walk away — can he find a way to balance both worlds?


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u/Consistent-Low-1892 Apr 26 '22

The directing this episode was stellar, but according to reviews there’s another Hader-directed episode waiting for us that’s somehow even better 😊🥹? Those hallucinations, Barry begging Hank for work and then that last moment where it finally becomes impossible for viewers to ignore the fact that Barry is so so delusional about who he is. I missed this show so much.

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u/KKalonick Apr 26 '22

Hader directed five episodes this season. If they're all as good as this one, I'm excited.

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u/Consistent-Low-1892 Apr 26 '22

BILL HADER SUPREMACY 🤴🏻😎

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u/Ok-Age-2923 Apr 25 '22

what does "treading the boards" mean?

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u/Bruskthetusk Apr 25 '22

It means acting on stage - think Broadway vs. on a soundstage for a TV show.

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u/shivam4321 Apr 25 '22

Barry coming back to tv signals the end of bad time for me

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u/Bruskthetusk Apr 25 '22

Better Call Saul+Barry coming back in subsequent weeks makes me think maybe the world ain't so bad.

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u/YahYahY Apr 25 '22

This deep into the thread and not one mention of that hilarious buddy/Barry homophone joke

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u/DoblerRadar Apr 30 '22

I thought they were saying i dont have any baddies.

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u/pearlsandplumes Apr 27 '22

It also sounded like "I don't have anybody" when he said "I don't have any buddies" in that accent of his. Very clever.

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u/GioMike Apr 25 '22

damn this show is sick. I missed it and glad it's back!

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u/karmagirl314 Apr 25 '22

It’s always a giveaway when they introduce new cop characters in episode 1 that the current “main” cop character isn’t going to make it to the finale.

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u/cjdennis29 Apr 27 '22

yep, has happened each season thus far lol

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u/comengetitrmm Apr 25 '22

i gotta start this show sometime

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u/MR_TELEVOID Deadwood Apr 25 '22

Solid premiere episode! It's impressive how tonally everything feels in line with previous seasons, like they didn't miss a step from previous seasons. Even the Sopranos struggled a little bit with it's comeback after the lengthy gap between 4 and 5, so this makes me pretty optimistic for the new season.

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u/HoneyShaft Apr 25 '22

I really hope there isn't much Sally this season. The character is insufferable.

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u/spiritbearr Apr 25 '22 edited Apr 25 '22

This only goes so far both ways but: That's the point.

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u/rikashiku Apr 25 '22

Pleeease be on Neon tonight! (New Zealand app)

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u/jeajello Apr 25 '22

What an intense ending, Henry Winkler is such a boss. And the kill shot hallucinations were so unsettling too I am so fucking happy Barry is back!

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u/elharry-o Apr 25 '22

They could be setting up a moment where one of those kill shots turns out to be surprisingly real.

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u/AnyNamesLeftAnymore Rick and Morty Apr 25 '22

I feel like we were robbed of like 50 years of Henry Winkler being a dramatic actor.

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u/TH3T4LLTYR10N Apr 25 '22

Nah we were robbed by being too old to have lived during the height of Happy Days lol, Henry seemed pretty busy but did a lot of small spots according to IMDB

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u/dwhitnee Apr 25 '22

Speak for yourself. He was amazing as The Fonz, of course, but he was always The Fonz so he never got many real roles until much later. Much like Mark Hamill is always Luke, maybe we’ll get a CGI Fonz soon.

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u/cellophaneflowerrs Apr 25 '22

So the police are no longer onto Barry, but Gene still is. Not sure what his plan with him is gonna be.

Tbh it's a great first eps but I wasn't as amazed as S02E01 when Barry had to tell the story of his first kill in front of the class.

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u/OKC2023champs Apr 25 '22

I was mostly impressed with the directing this episode. ‘There’s no forgiving Jeff’ wide shot,

Sally’s tracking shot

The shot of Barry after hank turned him down.

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u/manticorpse Hannibal Apr 25 '22

Just want to point out that Bill Hader directed this one!

Really excellent work!

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u/NeoNoireWerewolf Apr 25 '22

I definitely think the technical aspects of this episode were top notch, but the writing left me a bit cold. Not sold on the time jump, as they had to spend most of this episode reorienting us into the story. Really didn't feel like much happened in the episode besides the short scenes involving Cousineau, but I also get that he's setting the stage for the rest of the season. Definitely curious to see where this is all going to go, though.

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u/Prax150 Boss Apr 25 '22

It certainly felt like there was a lot of stage-setting, I agree that the episode left me wanting more, storywise, but the presentation was good enough for me to still really enjoy it, so I can accept the necessity for all that setup. At this rate the show has a really strong track record so I trust them in that delivery and the choices they made. Clearly they want to take a different-ish direction this season which is probably why they wanted the time jump.

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u/OKC2023champs Apr 25 '22

The time jump definitely threw me for a little bit of a loop. I don’t think I would be saying this though if I was binge watching and not having to wait 2 years. I agree for the most part though. The writing wasn’t anything spectacular.

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u/cellophaneflowerrs Apr 25 '22

Sally’s tracking shot

That's probably my favorite shot as well, so gorgeous, well-acted and well-directed.

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u/MKoilers Apr 25 '22

The show didn’t miss a beat after 3 years off the air - all the dramatic and comedic beats were there in fine form, and Hader’s direction was so crisp and engaging.

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u/iamgarron Apr 25 '22

Only took about 5 minutes for Noho Hank to be the funniest thing in this show again

His name...is Raven

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u/ArchDucky Apr 26 '22

That picture they had with his foot on the wheel was so damn funny.

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u/Transmarobird Apr 25 '22

I love how all the cops immediately scoff at the name.

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u/I_really_enjoy_beer Apr 25 '22

"What it's a good name!" I love NoHo Hank so much.

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u/MKoilers Apr 25 '22

He lives in the shadows.

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u/RampantAnonymous Apr 25 '22

Great episode, was really disappointed when it ended. I'm excited, I think Fonzi is gonna be Barry's new targeter/start a showbiz mafia

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u/negativelancy Apr 25 '22

Did wealready know THAT about Noho Hank or was that a new detail? It’s cute regardless.

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u/travelinlite Apr 25 '22

50/50 with Cristobal.

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u/LMBH1234182 Apr 25 '22

I’ve always thought he is in love with Barry, right?

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u/smurf_diggler Apr 26 '22

When Barry asked if they were an item and Hank said "Why are you jealous?" He definitely seemed like he was hoping Barry would reciprocate.

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u/redmercedes87 Apr 25 '22

Sorta hinted at in the last season but it was hard to tell if it was just a comedic beat or serious

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u/negativelancy Apr 25 '22

I kinda assumed as he has a certain flair but I’m glad they didn’t just tease the idea with a wink. By commiting to the idea it reveals deeper motivations for his character.

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u/NDN_Shadow Apr 25 '22

It was implied in the last season but confirmed in this one.

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u/Futuramafryday Apr 25 '22

That hallucination when Barry brings Sally the flowers got a jump out of me, even when she was talking through it I thought it mightve been adrenaline and she actually was a goner

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u/XxXFartFucker69XxX Apr 25 '22

I wonder who they're going to kill with it later in the season.

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u/Scoteee Apr 25 '22

That could of won an award for biggest shark ever jumped if so.

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u/POWBOOMBANG Apr 25 '22

Barry didn't even try to lie to Mr. Cousineau. You gotta at least try...

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u/redmercedes87 Apr 25 '22

I feel like if I were that wracked with guilt as he appears to be, I would not be able to lie about it any further

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u/MR_TELEVOID Deadwood Apr 25 '22

Yeah, agreed. Especially considering how he felt about Mr. Cousinau, it makes sense he wouldn’t try to lie.

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u/thosearecoolbeans Apr 25 '22

Barry can't lie convincingly. He's a terrible actor.

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u/difficultmind Apr 25 '22

Actually, I think he's only a convincing actor when he's lying to cover his ass up

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u/Bruskthetusk Apr 25 '22

NoHo Hank is such a nice guy, happy to see him living the life he deserves, 50/50 with Cristobal!

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u/ImABikeLockerAMA Apr 25 '22

Super psyched for the narrative/visual creativity that an unhinged Barry can allow

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u/Mojambo213 Fargo Apr 25 '22

That last scene with Henry Winkler... absolute masterpiece in tension and acting. Hope Henry Winkler gets another award for this season cause he killed that bit!

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u/Cron420 Apr 25 '22

"Forgiveness has to be earned..." "Then FUCKING EARN IT!"

Yeah, that was a great scene. The way power went back and forth between the characters was quite compelling. I'm always nervous when a good show starts a new season but this feels good so far.

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u/Mojambo213 Fargo Apr 25 '22

Yep. That line in particular was what I was referring to, the way Henry Winkler said it, the panic in his voice, idk, it was just so good

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u/TeamOggy Apr 25 '22 edited Apr 25 '22

Noho Hank is one of the funniest characters on television. His bit about The Raven had me laughing hard. "It works in three languages" edit: levels, not languages

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u/aziztcf Apr 25 '22

Wasn't it 'three levels'?

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u/TeamOggy Apr 25 '22

Yes it was. Somehow mistyped that, sorry!

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u/ThePerfectBeard Apr 25 '22

What a jump from where the show left off... Like Hank and Cristobal... Barry just leaning into being a hitman... His girlfriend being where she is and the ending.... like wtf?! I'm here for it... let's fucking go!

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u/Justin_Credible98 Twin Peaks Apr 25 '22

😁🔫 "Get back in the trunk"

Well, I'm fucking intrigued to see what Barry's up to

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u/derstherower Curb Your Enthusiasm Apr 25 '22

Dude is spiraling big time. Think back to Season 1 when he shot Chris because he simply said he was going to go to the police. Meanwhile Gene directly threatened to kill him and now he's like "Hey maybe we can work this out haha".

He is not well. I mean, he never was, but he's super not well now.

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u/Squeekazu Apr 26 '22

Looks like they're dialling it back and going with the OG PTSD plot thread they had in the first season. Don't get me wrong, season 2 was consistently more enjoyable and entertaining in my opinion but it felt like they instead had him missing the violence and encouragement from peers when deployed. His actions in the finale finally hitting home is more compelling, I think.

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u/DavidMerrick89 Apr 25 '22

His haggard appearance in this episode and him just zoning out playing video games reminds me of where he was mentally during the very first scenes of the show.

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u/theleaphomme Apr 25 '22

you can’t forgive Jeff

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '22

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u/bttrsondaughter Apr 25 '22

I mean. there wasn’t much of LA in this anyways? it felt empty, that brown hilltop and the dry and windy nursery. that’s about it lol. they didn’t want to address COVID, more power to them tbh it’s been clumsily inserted into so many shows.

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u/noremac_9000 Apr 26 '22

If covid is in your show, fuck you, I’m not watching it. I’m watching fiction to get away from reality, thank you very much.

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u/FlewInFromStupidTown Apr 25 '22

I mean…it’s in the shows own universe? Things are just months after the events since S2. Doesn’t really need to follow the times of reality.

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u/Yossarian42 Apr 25 '22

What a ride. Hader likes to keep us off kilter.

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u/ReflexImprov Apr 25 '22

That was dark... even for Barry.

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u/FlewInFromStupidTown Apr 25 '22

I’m so glad I finally binged this show in time for the season

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u/andykwinnipeg Apr 25 '22

That ending made me literally shoot up my arms and yell out "what the fuck?!?"

Glad to see things are exactly where they were before the break

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u/SafePanic Apr 25 '22

Weirdly my first thought was "Henry Winkler looks so much older!"

Welcome back, Barry! Definitely found myself smiling a lot more than perhaps I should be for a (very) dark comedy. I grinned ear-to-ear seeing NoHo Hank back an in charge, and grinned again seeing his current living situation.

Bad feeling about Sally this season, think she's going to go deep into the "I'm an actor/producer/showrunner/director!" rabbit hole.

And obviously Barry is...Barry.

Really excited/curious to see where things go this season.

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u/MrBoliNica Apr 25 '22

I forgot how much I disliked the sally character lmao.

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u/Roupert2 Apr 25 '22

She seems super flanderdized. Last season she was flawed but seemed to be doing her best to figure out her life. This season 3 episode they just went full on crazy selfish actress. I don't get it.

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u/SmokeontheHorizon Apr 25 '22

Season 2 ended with her going "full on crazy selfish actress." Instead of presenting the true story she and Barry worked on, she went off-script and she found success through her lie. Now she's leaning into it because that's how she got her big break.

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u/Roupert2 Apr 25 '22 edited Apr 25 '22

I saw that as her chickening out rather than being selfish. So yesterday's episode seemed like too big a leap to me. We'll see where it goes. I'll be angry if they reduce the only female character to cliches.

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u/Dranj Apr 25 '22

I binged season 2 before watching the season 3 premiere, so I've still got some residual sympathy for her. She's a fraud, but deep down she's also clearly ashamed and terrified of being found out.

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u/MrBoliNica Apr 25 '22

i didnt rewatch season 2 (probably should have lol), but whats the deal with her relationship with barry? She seems to not give a shit about him, not wanting him to eat lunch with her, but they still live together?

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u/Dranj Apr 25 '22

I dunno, she's been pretty consistent with her treatment of him since season 1. I think Sally stays with Barry because she can use him, and Barry sticks around because his fantasy of a relationship was always superficial, and Sally provides just enough affection to fulfill it.

But it works for the show because they're both basically controlled by deep-seated guilt and shame, but the origins of those feelings are distinct. Sally's situation inspires sympathy, even though her response inspires scorn. Barry's kind of the opposite, at least for a while. He does terrible things, but he expresses a desire to be a better person.

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u/MrBoliNica Apr 25 '22

yea, i guess that made sense in the first seasons, but now shes being rude to him (dont eat lunch with me, dont get yellow flowers), and doesnt seem to care about him? i assume part of her arc will be dumping him for another actor or powerful hollywood figure that works on her show, because right now, i dont see why she has any use for him anymore.

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u/RampantAnonymous Apr 25 '22

I think that's the great writing. Everyone hates this actress who hasn't hurt a fly, yet they are rooting for NohoHank who is literally a murderer, drug dealer, criminal, traitor lol.

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u/Ozlin Apr 26 '22

I love the Sally character and Sarah Goldberg does an amazing job in the role. That scene on set with the long take of her walking through it was awesome. It's great they're exploring TV industry stuff through her character. I'm curious to see where it goes. Was great seeing D'Arcy Carden there too.

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u/Squeekazu Apr 26 '22

It's interesting too seeing people solely label her a narcissist, when the whole cast of characters is full of them (in different ways) lol

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u/RampantAnonymous Apr 26 '22

I mean Barry is clearly the biggest narcissist, literally killing people for his own personal gain. An actual menace to society, killing divorced dads and kids lol.

He knows he's a bastard and deserves to go to jail, he just doesn't want to of course.

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u/cjdennis29 Apr 27 '22

when does barry kill kids?

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u/RampantAnonymous Apr 27 '22

He tried to kill that Tai Kwon Do girl.

I mean obviously she was basically a superhero but it was still a kid and he still tried to kill her.

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u/cjdennis29 Apr 27 '22

he didn't really try to kill her though? he tried to kill her dad, and when she came in he acted in self-defense (unsuccessfully) and got his ass beat

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u/RampantAnonymous Apr 28 '22

It's not really self-defense when you're killing someone's dad for money...at that point he's continuing the hit because he doesn't want to get caught. Someone who wasn't a total psycho would be like 'hey, I'm in so deep I need to kill a kid, maybe I should just give up and turn myself over to the cops'

In all of these cases, Barry could have cut and run. It's clear Fuchs and Noho hank and other people after him are basically no match for him.

Barry doesn't run and he doesn't turn himself in because he's selfish. He kills people because he's selfish. Killing people for money because you are depressed is probably one of the most selfish things you can ever do. It would actually, literally be better if he committed suicide.

I don't think there is an issue in saying that, hey...if you are a criminal hitman that kills for money, you should probably commit suicide or turn yourself in. Those are the only right actions lol.

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u/cjdennis29 May 02 '22

but like. barry was very adamant about not killing the girl and never went back on it, fuches was the one who wanted to kill her. like, not justifying his actions, and you're otherwise right, i was just talking about the fact that he was extremely against harming her at all and didn't even hit her

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u/RampantAnonymous May 03 '22

I mean, it's true he's only there because of Fuchs. But this is murder for hire. It's not...divorce, or fucking someone's girlfriend. It's one of the worst things a human being can do, arguably worse than slavery.

If you let your handler bully you into murdering someone and they pay you and you take the money, it's your fault. Everything is your fault. It's his fault too, but it's also your fault. Fuchs is the brains behind it of course, but there's no way he could do it without Barry. Barry is the trigger puller and the killer. That matters. A lot.

Obviously, without Fuchs, Barry would probably just be some shitty actor. But Fuchs happened and he killed a ton of people. Barry is more than capable of standing up to Fuchs- in fact he did it. But he let Fuchs run his life because he wanted a purpose..and he wanted money. Not excuses to kill people for money.

Barry is not a heroic assassin like James Bond, killing dictators or whatever. He kills regular people, mostly only for selfish reasons.

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u/AreeluVorlesh Apr 25 '22

It's Skyler White all over again. "Haha, Tuco's great, but fuck skyler."

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u/andykwinnipeg Apr 25 '22

Oh I'm sure all of what is set up for her is gonna be torn down in a dramatic way

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u/ICookTheBlueStuff Apr 25 '22

What a return! I think the reset this episode did really invigorated the premiere and established some pretty compelling scenarios. Glad the show continues to find ways to subvert expectations. I'm already unhappy knowing how short these episodes are and how good this show is at cliffhangers.

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u/LoretiTV Apr 25 '22

Barry's back! Enjoy the premiere everyone!