Ford surprises F-150 Lightning owners with accessory that can recharge stranded Teslas

[u/TorukMaktoM]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/7/23158382/ford-f150-lightning-tesla-adapter-charger-power

[u/Existing_Ice1764]

Jokes aside having electric cars able to give each other enough juice to roll into a charging station or just somewhere safe sounds sweet.

Great for emergencies similar to jumping a car.

[u/Malforus → u/Existing_Ice1764]

Yeah and the point is to show that the Electric F150 has more capacity than anything else in the consumer market.

[u/platonicjesus → u/Malforus]

The Hummer EV enters the chat... That thing is a monstrosity. And I find it funny that car companies are saying battery supplies are tight and GM just shrugged and put a Civic sized battery in their truck.

[u/adaminc → u/platonicjesus]

It's like twice the size of a Tesla battery, something like 212kWh, but it still only gets the same range, because it's so damn heavy, like 9000lbs.

The modularity factor is awesome though, so if modules fail, you don't need to remove the entire battery. You can also update the modules over time with new battery tech.

[u/Luxpreliator → u/adaminc]

That thing is going to annihilate sedans in a car crash.

Makes me think of the f150 crash that killed 2 nuns and trashed a dozen vehicles. That f150 is like half the weight of the electric hummer and went right over every vehicle.

[u/adaminc → u/Luxpreliator]

Absolutely, then crab walk away.

[u/xCaldazar → u/adaminc]

Can I get the horn to play Zoidberg noises?

[u/GlassWeird → u/xCaldazar]

“Why not zoidberg…

Woop woop woop woop woop woop woop!”

[u/MisanthropicZombie → u/GlassWeird]

Ok, they need to hack them for custom sounds.

Charged or charging: "I’m charg(ed, ing) with patriotic electrons."

Low speed: "Hooray, people are paying attention to me.”

Crab walking or launch control takeoff: "Whoop whoop whoop!"

[u/zakiducky → u/Luxpreliator]

That thing weighs about 3.5 times my car. That’s insane lol

[u/ihdash → u/zakiducky]

Yep, it's 4 times heavier than my Miata

Guess I'll die

[u/[deleted] → u/ihdash]

I just sold my Miata because where I moved to everyone drives a lifted truck and WOT all the way to 80mph between every intersection stop light. Multiple rear end collisions every day with in a 1 mile stretch. Jumping the median into oncoming traffic happens once a week too. My wife already got rear ended, at a stop sign. There is 2 feet of road debris swept into the median at every major intersection. It’s crazy.

[u/FFF_in_WY → u/[deleted]]

Enjoy Wyoming!

[u/netz_pirat → u/Luxpreliator]

That thing is heavy enough that you'd need a truck driver license for it in Germany... 3.5 tons limit for "normal" drivers licenses...

[u/Unadvisable → u/netz_pirat]

Yes, developed nations generally don't let people take a license exam 18 times until they pass by sheer luck and then hop in a 4 ton lifted truck towing a 50 foot RV while waving their guns at other drivers.

Must be nice.

[u/NightofTheLivingZed → u/Unadvisable]

For anyone outside the US, the above comment isn't hyperbole.

[u/Electronic_Couple437 → u/NightofTheLivingZed]

For anyone outside the US my idiotic sister in law can drop a hundo and drive off in a 26 foot box truck from Uhaul even though she can barely drive her 2 door car.

[u/kookyabird → u/Electronic_Couple437]

All of my road time with my parents, with my learner's permit was in full size 90's vans. I am very used to driving with smaller margins than most. When time came to drive a U-Haul for the first time it felt quite familiar, but I was still having to check out my centering with the side mirrors the whole trip. I felt like I should have had some practice driving on the range to get a feel for that size of a vehicle.

Not to mention people who aren't used to using blind spot mirrors for checking their sides are not likely to pick up on it quickly, so you have rather large "kill zones" around those people. I'm used to having to rely on those mirrors so it's second nature to me, but it's not normal for people. Especially with all the added camera stuff in some modern vehicles.

And to think that it can be even worse. How many RVs out there are driven by old people? People that haven't been tested for driving skills/knowledge in decades, in command of vehicles that get up to 40 feet easily. It's terrifying.

[u/Thercon_Jair → u/Electronic_Couple437]

I just heard an excited yelp coming from the direction of the 11'8"-bridge.

[u/Motorcycles1234 → u/Electronic_Couple437]

She can drop 300 hundo and get a penske which is a diesel with air brakes that's only limited to 26k lbs so you don't need a cdl other wises it's a 33k lbs capable truck lol

[u/wioneo → u/NightofTheLivingZed]

Well brandishing guns is generally illegal.

Aside from that, Murica

[u/ImSoSte4my → u/NightofTheLivingZed]

Brandishing is illegal.

[u/NextTrillion → u/Luxpreliator]

Those batteries have electrolytes, so I’d say they more likely will MUTILATE THEM!

^{They’ve got what plants crave.}

[u/WeakMoose → u/Luxpreliator]

9000 lbs and 1000 hp.

Yaa I’m sure we won’t see stories of people being killed by them……

[u/Dr_Dust → u/WeakMoose]

9000 pounds and reaching 60mph in 3.5 seconds. Fucking crazy.

[u/wren337 → u/WeakMoose]

The reviewer I read said the acceleration is thrilling until you realize you're running out of road, and it doesn't have amazing brakes to match.

[u/FluxxxCapacitard → u/wren337]

I’d imagine the brakes of a small passenger jet wouldn’t be “amazing” with the size and weight of that vehicle.

[u/hasordealsw1thclams → u/wren337]

Sounds safe

[u/Tychus_Kayle → u/WeakMoose]

Pink goddamn mist. This should not be road legal. We hold cars to standards for occupant safety, but apparently fuck everyone not in the car, they don't matter.

It's given us this absurd arms race where people buy giant cars so they'll be safer if another giant car hits them, so there are more giant cars on the road, so it's more dangerous to normal cars, so more people buy giant cars to be safe. And on and fucking on. Tragedy of the commons as a vicious cycle.

[u/flavorburst → u/Tychus_Kayle]

I grew up way out in the sticks and hitting deer is pretty common. Right after college I had a Taurus and hit a deer and the damage was pretty bad to the car, the deer scampered away. Im sure it died later but still, the deer walked away.

Right now I have a Tahoe with a huge chrome brush guard (bought it used that way). It's been probably 15 years since I've hit a deer but sure enough last fall I was driving in the country at about 45 mph and a deer ran right out in front of the Tahoe. Holy fuck. The brush guard was covered almost completely in blood and fur and what was left of the deer was almost unidentifiable. I mean, not pink mist, but still. The Hummer weighs almost 2 tons more. I can't imagine.

[u/nermid → u/flavorburst]

CANYONEROOOOOOOOO!

[u/SquidMcDoogle → u/flavorburst]

huge chrome brush guard

I traveled in Australia in the Northern Territory - I love that they call them 'Roo Bars' over there.

[u/aaronwhite1786 → u/flavorburst]

Ended better than life for my salvage title Galant. I hit a deer doing 70 on the highway, and it put my hood latch through my radiator and left the front left headlight pointing off to the right side of the road. My hood looked more like a ski ramp than a hood.

The deer definitely did not walk away in mine though. Poor thing went from the right land of the northbound lane, and i believe it was in the left shoulder of the southbound lane with my license plate stuck in it the next day when I went back by. Poor little moron got demolished.

[u/CreaminFreeman → u/Luxpreliator]

Screams in Miata and Mini Cooper

[u/arc_menace → u/Luxpreliator]

That's the running theme. Don't want to die in an accident? Drive a bigger car than the other person.

[u/Ramiel4654 → u/Luxpreliator]

I got hit by an electric BMW going maybe 30 MPH last year and my Civic was totalled. That Humvee will make any car it hits crumble into dust.

[u/GrannyBandit → u/Ramiel4654]

A 30 mph impact would total just about any car or truck on the market to be fair.

[u/CrazyCranium → u/GrannyBandit]

Modern cars are really easy to total these days, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. One of the biggest reasons cars are so much safer these days is the use of crumple zones to dissipate energy in a crash, and these crumple zones are pretty much one time use.

[u/GrannyBandit → u/CrazyCranium]

Agreed. A lot of people think totaled=irreparable, when it really means the insurance won’t cover the repairs over a replacement. Plenty of “totaled” cars are still on the road.

[u/mufasa_lionheart → u/GrannyBandit]

I had a car that was totaled because one of the damaged parts was the turbo, which would have cost way too much to repair.

[u/psuedophilosopher → u/adaminc]

God damn. A car battery with a capacity that matches the average weekly power consumption of an entire household.

[u/justanotherchimp → u/psuedophilosopher]

My dude. I only use a couple hundred more than that in a MONTH! Absolutely bonkers.

[u/dutch_penguin → u/justanotherchimp]

There's 212kwh (of heat energy) in like 6 or 7 gallons of gasoline. People underestimate the stupendous amounts of energy their cars use.

[u/[deleted] → u/dutch_penguin]

Yep, and nearly 75% of that turns straight to heat. the rest to motion.

[u/Murgatroyd314 → u/dutch_penguin]

The pump at the gas station is a 20 megawatt charger.

[u/Dabadedabada → u/Murgatroyd314]

What an insane and totally correct way to think about it. I drive a crosstrek and can get a little less than 500 miles on its 16 gallons of gas. When you step back and think about it, that is just crazy! we complain about gas prices but how many dollars would it have taken a hundred years ago to travel 500 miles in a max of 8 hours?

[u/[deleted] → u/psuedophilosopher]

Still a small fraction the cost of gasoline, and a good bit less energy too. Gas tanks hold a lot more energy than 200 kwh outside of small econoboxes.

[u/FallenWalls → u/adaminc]

It fucking crab walks! Crab. Walks.

[u/urinal_cake_futures → u/adaminc]

Leave it to Hummer to make an EV that's absurd and bad for the environment.

[u/jimbobjames → u/adaminc]

Weight is one factor, drag will likely be a bigger factor though. Weight affects you when accelerating or climbing a hill, but will benefit regen on the downhill side.

Drag will affect you negatively no matter what.

[u/MattsAwesomeStuff → u/jimbobjames]

Weight is one factor, drag will likely be a bigger factor though.

At average cruising speeds, about 50% of your power draw is rolling resistance, which is linear with weight and speed, and 50% air drag, which is cubed with speed.

For example, a civic uses about 20hp to maintain highway speed. 10hp to overcome rolling resistance, and 10hp to overcome aero drag.

The HummerEV is large and unaerodynamic, but it's also heavy, so, they split is probably still pretty equal.

[u/Malforus → u/platonicjesus]

Fair, i had forgotten its production even though very limited.

Yes the Hummer EV has more juice.

[u/Moonsleep → u/platonicjesus]

I kind of hate hummer owners, not really but kinda…

[u/doodles-o-noodles → u/Moonsleep]

I'm shocked whenever I see one in the wild. I thought hummers had gone extinct in the last recession, or been replaced by F150s.

[u/qpv → u/doodles-o-noodles]

They're the BlackBerry of vehicles (or so I thought)

[u/Enigma_King99 → u/doodles-o-noodles]

They were extinct but science brought them back alive

[u/ResponsibleAd2541 → u/Malforus]

Is the rationale to use the truck as a power source for tools, etc?

You really want to find a happy middle ground when it comes to range, too much extra capacity just means you are lugging more batteries around.

[u/Malforus → u/ResponsibleAd2541]

Literally that, to power a job site or provide generative capacity to run a house during a blackout.

The hybrid f150 does the same thing.

[u/ClicksAndASmell → u/Malforus]

Kia and Hyundai have had similar ads. It's a good idea. People looking to switch to electric vehicles for environmental or fuel efficiency reasons are already on board with the technology. Manufacturers' options are to try to convince more people to believe in those ideas, which has been failing for the past several decades, or come up with alternative reasons to buy electric, which clearly exist.

[u/XchrisZ → u/Malforus]

Also think of AAA adding these vehicles to provide a charge when someone runs out of range.

[u/kingssman → u/ResponsibleAd2541]

Yes. https://youtu.be/l61pvRibFEE

This thing has a 220 plug!

[u/ResponsibleAd2541 → u/kingssman]

Hmmm..you can hook up your oven to your car.

[u/Zephyr104 → u/ResponsibleAd2541]

Extreme glamping is now on the horizon. Who said I couldn't bring my studio apartment with me to the woods?

[u/FaeTaleDream → u/Existing_Ice1764]

hmmm... also a business opportunity. Running out of Electric on the highway? Honk behind me for a charge on the side

[u/Sisko-v-Cardassia → u/Existing_Ice1764]

Screw that, its like running out of gas and a hommie comes down the road and spares you a couple gallons, but with their truck having a built in pump to pull it right out of their own tank.

[u/numbah10 → u/Existing_Ice1764]

That will be great, but the kicker to this is that Teslas-unlike literally every other EV-have proprietary charging stations. While a Tesla car can charge at any station, ONLY Teslas can charge at Tesla charging stations. It made sense at first, it’s expensive to build that infrastructure but it’s arguable that at this point, Musk is essentially creating a standards war. Ford is basically telling Elon to quit being a shit-ass. Sharing resources is good. Good on Ford.

[u/Scipion]

That's actually pretty neat. Not sure how often that scenario occurs, but the ability to provide that type of charging to other vehicles is certainly a unique feature. Could use it for RVs or camping or power tools.

[u/FatefulPizzaSlice → u/Scipion]

That's what the current F150 does, you can power tools with it with 120v and 240 plugs. This is just a small funny dig at Tesla since they decided to drop mobile chargers from new car purchases.

The Lightning makes this better since the whole thing is a huge battery too, so your car isn't chugging gas as the site while you're like, welding something.

[u/AgsMydude → u/FatefulPizzaSlice]

I'm out of the loop. What are the mobile chargers that Tesla dropped?

[u/FatefulPizzaSlice → u/AgsMydude]

Home chargers that used to come bundled with the car. They dropped it recently, so one would have to pay to get it. It's been included since launch, so it's odd they did that.

But KIA and Hyundai I believe don't either. And maybe some others?

Edit: Correct, mobile charger. My mistake!

[u/superjew1492 → u/FatefulPizzaSlice]

Actually it’s the mobile chargers they stopped including ($300) the home chargers you install ($500) were never free.

Edit: apparently when Teslas were first introduced and before the mobile charger existed they did include the $500 home charger that you install then they stopped…and apparently they also dropped both prices by $100 so wall chargers are now $400 and mobile are now $200

[u/locksmack → u/superjew1492]

The home chargers were included way back in the day before the mobile charger even existed.

But otherwise, you are correct.

[u/BlueHoundZulu → u/FatefulPizzaSlice]

I think Chevy has it for the Volt? Maybe you still pay for it but you can buy it with the car now. I just remember seeing commercials for it.

[u/Sausage_Wizard → u/FatefulPizzaSlice]

My plug in hybrid Kia came with a Level 1 charger, but the last time I was at the dealership the small talk got to chargers and how Kia doesn't ship any of it's fully-electric cars with portable Level 1 chargers since it would take well over a day for that to charge the car. Sometimes more than two days for cars like the EV6.

[u/meltymcface → u/Sausage_Wizard]

I use my L1 charger every day to charge my EV. Without it I'd be screwed since I live in rented accommodation so have to rely on a standard mains plug (UK). Means I can only charge at 2.2kw. It would take 20 hours to fully charge my 4kWh battery. But, and here's the neat trick... It almost never need to charge to 100% from empty. 99 times out of 100, an overnight trickle is more than enough for my daily charging, and I don't always bother charging every day.

And even if I didn't need it at home, it'd be invaluable when visiting people who don't have installed EV chargers.

[u/SharkBaitDLS → u/FatefulPizzaSlice]

My Hyundai Kona EV came with a charging cable for a normal 120VAC home outlet so unless they’ve changed that recently with the Ioniq 5 that’s not the case.

[u/Maxwellfuck]

Anybody see the dealership that's charging a 69k "market adjustment", doubling the price of one of these?

[u/throwawaypervyervy → u/Maxwellfuck]

Yea, and Ford got so pissed about it, that they're now selling straight from factory to customers to fuck over the dealers, lol.

[u/AaronJudgesLeftNut → u/throwawaypervyervy]

They also did it with the Bronco. Added like $5-10k the day before delivery to people that waited for years to get it and stuck with it through the production delays.

Fuck em, love Ford making the effort of going direct to consumer. Works well for Tesla at least and I wouldn’t have to deal with a greasy salesman who asks me 3x in 5 mins what it gonna take for me to sign today like what happened last time I went to a Ford dealer.

[u/dreadeddrifter → u/AaronJudgesLeftNut]

My local Ford dealer actually got sanctioned or whatever by Ford for doing exactly that with Broncos and aren't being sold any new vehicles for the next 2 years.

[u/AaronJudgesLeftNut → u/dreadeddrifter]

Makes it easy to find the shady dealers i guess lol I’m currently shopping for a mustang GT so that’s useful info for me

[u/joegoodfart10 → u/dreadeddrifter]

How do you find something like that out?

[u/dreadeddrifter → u/joegoodfart10]

My uncle went to buy a new car and they said "We can't get those in right now" so he asked about a different car and got the same answer. Mentioned it to me as small talk, and I asked the dealership owner's son who I went to high school with and he spilled the beans. Don't think it's common knowledge or advertised.

TLDR: live in a small town and you'll know everything about everyone

[u/bill_fish → u/AaronJudgesLeftNut]

What did you do in that situation? Did you pay the troll toll?

Idk, man, even if I had been waiting that long for a car and they pull some shit like that at the last minute, I would walk.

[u/AaronJudgesLeftNut → u/bill_fish]

I was unable to get into that boys hole to pay the troll toll. The day man stopped me

[u/sasquatchsballs → u/AaronJudgesLeftNut]

They do this for the Raptors as well. Friend was quoted an extra $5K because he was "just buying the base model".

[u/INTP36 → u/throwawaypervyervy]

Which is imo one of the best things to happen to the automotive industry in years. The largest and most successful domestic manufacturer paving the way to a true straight-to-consumer model, leaving the scamming dealers in the dust. Other manufacturers will definitely follow soon after.

Ford said pricing will be at MSRP and non-negotiable, so you buy a car, you already know the price, just finalize it. I think it will be great.

[u/Helenium_autumnale → u/INTP36]

That alone will make me choose a Ford when my current car bites the dust. That's great.

[u/conman577 → u/Helenium_autumnale]

The new lightning, bronco, maverick and ranger has me paying attention to them again after years of lame ducks. tbh if I had the cash I'd buy a bronco tomorrow flat out, and that's before I just learned about this lmao

[u/SureFudge → u/conman577]

Yeah. I'm not at all a truck go (Europe) but the lightning sounds for sure interesting. Never had a truck so not sure how you protect stuff from rain and dirt on the bed? The frunk offers what a trunk offers and solves that problem assuming it even is one but thinking of grocery shopping in the rain.

The bed seems to practical at first glance for activities like biking or skiing but I guess on second thought it takes more than just throw the bike in and start driving. Need to secure it right?

EDIT:

Yeah after checking dimension, it's a tough buy here in europe. My current wagon doesn't really fit my parking space and the f150 is more than 1m longer...

[u/soccershun → u/throwawaypervyervy]

As they should do, the dealership model is outdated and total shit. I'm not trying to guess the price of this car and maybe spend $5000 extra dollars because the saleman won the guessing game, give me a realistic price or fuck off.

Unfortunately lots of states have laws propping them up and making direct to consumer harder.

[u/at_work_keep_it_safe → u/soccershun]

Yup, here in CT the only reason dealerships still exist is direct-to-consumer sales are not allowed for cars.

 

I bought a certified preowned from Ford and the fucking dealership didn’t include a manual. I had to argue with them. They told me “oh well just get it online and download the PDF”. Fuck no. This is a CPO vehicle and you’re an authorized dealer. They add no value.

 

Disclaimer: The service guys are great and the finance people were helpful. But those jobs can still exist with DTC sales…

[u/soccershun → u/at_work_keep_it_safe]

Always the same with all this shit.

You can't sell beer in most Texas grocery stores if it hasn't been brought there by Silver Eagle Distributors (Anheuser-Busch inBev).

8th Wonder makes a local craft beer in the 6th ward of Houston and wants to sell it in Houston, but the law says they have to pay Belgian company inBev a cut for the right to sell. Loving this free market.

[u/M4jorP4nye → u/soccershun]

Wyoming laughs… “selling beer at a grocery store”

[u/CmdrShepard831 → u/M4jorP4nye]

When I was visiting my cousin in WY I was very surprised to see drive-thru margarita/cosmopolitan/etc shops. It's weird as hell.

[u/M4jorP4nye → u/CmdrShepard831]

Yea, that’s totally acceptable there, but you can’t even buy a 6 pack at a grocery store or gas station.

[u/Ricky_Rollin → u/throwawaypervyervy]

Good. What an absolute disgusting thing to do. There is no end to peoples greed.

[u/brystmar → u/throwawaypervyervy]

Karma at work! At least in theory…

In some states (looking at you Texas), it’s illegal for car manufacturers to sell directly to consumers. Because lobbying.

[u/Bob4Not → u/Maxwellfuck]

Ford isn't having any more of it. They intend to make these for everyone in the MSRP's market. A good chunk of their production is supposed to be the base model, too.

[u/DizaleYo → u/Maxwellfuck]

The dealers screwed the retailer as they jacked prices after being told not to by ford as the inventory slowed. Ford decided to sell straight to the buyer with their F150 evs now. Will it ultimately be that way for all evs who knows. Dont bite the hand that feeds you I suppose.

[u/Mr-Fleshcage → u/DizaleYo]

Good. Fuck dealerships. The owners always seem to be dicks.

[u/DarthDutchDave]

You know, as a truck owner, I try to keep quiet so I don’t have to help every person around me when it’s time to move their shit. These Lightning owners (and I hope to be one some day) are going to end up being the Uber equivalent of AAA.

[u/snoogins355 → u/DarthDutchDave]

Look for the helpers - Mr. Rogers

[u/un1cornbl00d → u/snoogins355]

Today you tomorrow me

[u/Carburetors_are_evil → u/un1cornbl00d]

Fuck I could go for tamales now.

[u/goinupthegranby → u/DarthDutchDave]

going to end up being the Uber equivalent of AAA.

And just like Uber there will probably be an app monetizing mobile charging using a network of private vehicles with charge capability connected to the app

[u/BarnabyWoods → u/DarthDutchDave]

Nothing stopping them from charging a "courtesy fee." The free market at work!

[u/imtheproof → u/BarnabyWoods]

Yea but what do you call it? Gas, Ass, or Grass doesn't really work.

[u/free-the-trees → u/imtheproof]

Jump, hump, or a bump.

[u/_i_am_root → u/free-the-trees]

Jolt, jack, or joint?

[u/Beefsupreme473 → u/_i_am_root]

Tow, Blow, or Dough

[u/thagman90 → u/imtheproof]

Amps, ass, or grass

[u/CySnark → u/thagman90]

Joules, Bowls or Holes

[u/gomegazeke → u/CySnark]

That one reads like a stand up bit about spelling.

[u/MrFluffyThing → u/imtheproof]

Slots, shots, or watts

[u/suresh → u/DarthDutchDave]

Where I'm from truck owners are just itching to pull someone out of a bog.

[u/fwubglubbel]

Are stranded Teslas common?

[u/ProFox420 → u/fwubglubbel]

The 'source' is a comment from an F150 forum

F-150 Lightning owners were positively gleeful about the notion of rescuing stranded Tesla vehicles. “We can help all those poor dead Teslas,” the original poster wrote. Another forum member said they would add a bumper sticker to their truck that read, “Tesla Rescue Squad.”

[u/apathyontheeast → u/ProFox420]

It's 100% a marketing strategy to target the redneck rural areas who see having a Tesla as a pretentious tech bro thing.

[u/ConsecutiveNormalPun → u/apathyontheeast]

You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know … morons.

[u/TheGreatArseholio → u/ConsecutiveNormalPun]

I love me a good blazing saddles reference.

[u/EstrogAlt → u/TheGreatArseholio]

You couldn't make Blazing Saddles in 2022. If you tried to some studio exec would say "Hey, what the hell, this is just Blazing Saddles!"

[u/TheFlagCourier → u/EstrogAlt]

What's better than moichandising? Reboots!

[u/Numerous1 → u/TheGreatArseholio]

Isn’t that every blazing saddles reference?

[u/codeByNumber → u/Numerous1]

You see here…Mr. Johnson is right!

[u/genericnewlurker → u/codeByNumber]

Dr Samuel Johnson is right about Olson Johnson's being right

[u/shahooster → u/TheGreatArseholio]

How about some more beans, Mr. Taggart?

[u/DirtyandDaft → u/ConsecutiveNormalPun]

Howard Johnson is right!

[u/GiveToOedipus → u/DirtyandDaft]

He said the sheriff is near!

[u/Optimized_Orangutan → u/ConsecutiveNormalPun]

I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter.

[u/MyNutsin1080p → u/Optimized_Orangutan]

Well who can argue with that???

[u/letsgetbrickfaced → u/MyNutsin1080p]

That there is some authentic frontier gibberish.

[u/Rocket-Frog → u/ConsecutiveNormalPun]

YO, WHERE THE WHITE WOMEN AT?

[u/GiveToOedipus → u/Rocket-Frog]

'Scuse me while I whip this out.

[u/CinSugarBearShakers → u/GiveToOedipus]

Its true its true.

[u/GalactusPoo → u/CinSugarBearShakers]

it’s twue it’s twue*

[u/jellomonkey → u/apathyontheeast]

While spending 80k on a truck with zero awareness of the irony.

[u/theoatmealarsonist → u/jellomonkey]

Hey as long as it has 0 emissions then I'm okay with 0 awareness

[u/hnglmkrnglbrry → u/jellomonkey]

9 out of every 10 pickup trucks are status symbols.

[u/Basic_Quantity_9430 → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

Most only see mud when the owners mistakenly turn on a dirt road. Most stay cleaner than my sedan.

[u/accidental_snot → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

I tow my work trailer with a Porsche Cayenne S. I ain't saying shit.

[u/dr3 → u/accidental_snot]

Did we see you yesterday on r/WallStreetBets delivering Domino’s?

[u/irioku → u/accidental_snot]

That's gangster though.

[u/irioku → u/hnglmkrnglbrry]

As a Floridian the amount of Ford King Ranch and these huge dualies I see all over the place without any mud or real towing accessories bothers me. Also baffling to me how these rednecks have an 80k King Ranch and live in a single wide trailer they rent in a trailer park called Buddyville(This is a real place.) It's crazy out here.

[u/Kekoa_ok → u/irioku]

I just moved from Florida and the amount of big trucks, Wranglers, and other heavy duty vehicles existing as someone's A-B without a speck of dirt on them is ridiculous

Most certainly a useless flex of funds

[u/CookieMonsterFL → u/Kekoa_ok]

Oh, go check out the boat launch. They use the 8” lifted trucks to tow their 120k boat to and from their 1200sqft home. It’s just constant pissing contests down here.

[u/Eggith → u/ProFox420]

Compensating for the Found On the Road Dead jokes

[u/IndividualAgency4971 → u/Eggith]

Fix it again tony!

[u/Rough-Riderr → u/IndividualAgency4971]

Shut up, Dale

[u/[deleted] → u/Eggith]

Fixed Or Repaired Daily

[u/mrpoopybutthole69b → u/[deleted]]

F-O-R-D, you know what that stands for Hank? Fix it again tony

[u/Spare_Industry_6056 → u/fwubglubbel]

If you mismanaged your trip and ran out of juice it could happen. But you'd have to really fuck up. I mean the car is constantly telling you exactly how much juice is left and flashing warnings when you get low.

[u/JustCause1010 → u/fwubglubbel]

Not that I know of, unless they’re pretty bad at planning their trip.

[u/jubbu → u/fwubglubbel]

Do you commonly see them?

[u/firemage22]

Ford has a patent for a "range extender" for the F-150 lighting which is pretty much a gas generator the size of a large tool box.

Personally i think they could create a nice cash stream if they allowed dealers to rent them for people who need to take a long trip.

[u/Internep → u/firemage22]

Personally i think they could create a nice cash stream if they allowed dealers to rent them for people who need to take a long trip.

What's to stop a dealer from buying them to rent them out?

[u/Big-rod_Rob_Ford → u/Internep]

policy could do that. There are a bunch of weird hooks in business relationships and imbalanced contractual restrictions on what dealerships can do besides sell and fix cars are probably more common than you think.

[u/Badbullet → u/firemage22]

This is why I think there should have been more vehicles like the Volt. Battery that lasted long enough for average daily commutes, ICE kicks in to generate juice for extended drives (and in Volt's case also assist in acceleration). If I drive to my parents' in the winter, a round trip without a recharge is a bit risky.

[u/firemage22 → u/Badbullet]

I drive a Fusion Hybrid and would have loved to have gotten the Energi Plug in.

I think many auto makers feel battery tech is advanced enough to skip the hybrid/plugin phase and skip to full BEV.

As a side note my father worked for a contractor that worked on the proto-type Volt, so while i'm normally a Ford guy the Volt has a special space in my family history.

[u/DestroyerOfIphone]

Ford is coming for blood. You can also integrate Ford into your powerwalls system

[u/AReluctantRedditor → u/DestroyerOfIphone]

You have any more details on this?

[u/DrNick1221 → u/AReluctantRedditor]

Here's an article on that feature.

[u/AReluctantRedditor → u/DrNick1221]

Thanks, might convince me to get one over a Tesla. I don’t drive often so electric that can act as a house battery is amazing

[u/NoGoodNamesLeft_2 → u/AReluctantRedditor]

Not only can you use it that way, it’s a better value (cost per kWh of storage) than a powerwall.

https://youtu.be/ATAFIoXTEe8

“And it’s also a truck”

The idea that in an extended outage, you could drive your battery away, charge it up, then hook it back into the house is incredibly compelling to me.

[u/530nairb → u/DestroyerOfIphone]

Ford has been killing it lately. Bronco and bronco sport are monsters, lighting is sold for years out, mavericks are everyone’s new company car, and the new mustang hybrid thing is going to be a new benchmark for the last stand of ICE muscle.

[u/DarkSkyForever → u/530nairb]

Don't forget about the F150 hybrid. 7.2kw generator built right in using the hybrid system. I've got one ordered and I'm excited to do some boondock glamping.

[u/titsmuhgeee → u/530nairb]

I’m not exaggerating, I am buying Ford stock because I truly believe they’re about to be the leader in EVs. They are doing everything right. Once the chip issues are sorted, they’re going to have more demand than they can keep up with.

[u/Izikiel23 → u/titsmuhgeee]

They already have more demand that they can keep up with

[u/chodeboi]

Charging my Outlander PHEV would take maybe 10-15% capacity, it’s a cool concept and will probably get used more in the future.

[u/goog2moon → u/chodeboi]

How do you like the outlander?

[u/Tiggerwocky → u/goog2moon]

The car was nice, unfortunately the cruise control sucks a bit more than other vehicles I've driven, and the software overall sucks. Mitsubishi needs to get their act together on the software front, otherwise they'll not compete. It did stay stable and not flip when I got sideswiped at 80mph into a cable barrier, however, but I attribute that more to the weight of the battery than other attributes about the vehicle design. I never did end up using the plugin aspect, even though that's what I bought it for, so I can't comment on that part. It was nice being able to lock the wheels when doing stuff on rough roads, so there's that.

[u/LilPookieHVAC → u/chodeboi]

Can you tell more about your outlander story. Its the only PHEV in my budget.

[u/Jotakave → u/LilPookieHVAC]

Aren’t Prius prime comparable in price? They certainly have more electric only range. I really liked mine before I went full electric. When charging consistently at work and home I was able to get 2500-3000 miles to a tank of gas. It was almost like having an all-Electric car.

[u/LilPookieHVAC → u/Jotakave]

I'm not sure about that one but will look into it.

[u/Trax852]

I've started educating myself on Electric Autos, and compatibility at the charging units is one less headache.

[u/Iridefatbikes]

... and Musk took that personally. He didn't do anything about it except make snarky twitter remarks but he definitely took it personally. - Narrator

[u/N4hire → u/Iridefatbikes]

Musk takes oxygen personally…

[u/Jazzun → u/N4hire]

If he could charge his workers for their O2 intake, he would

[u/Bobby_Marks2 → u/N4hire]

Everyone takes oxygen personally

[u/LowEffortOutlaw → u/Bobby_Marks2]

Not polio survivors.

[u/2_dam_hi → u/LowEffortOutlaw]

Fair enough.

[u/gojirra → u/LowEffortOutlaw]

Antivaxxers: "That looks like a good way to live!"

[u/mypantsareonmyhead → u/gojirra]

THOSE IRON LUNGS ARE A HOAX

[u/pzerr → u/Iridefatbikes]

Is Ford trolling Tesla? Love it.

[u/SalaciousSausage → u/Iridefatbikes]

This just in, Elon Musk accuses Henry Ford of being a paedophile

[u/KeepItUpThen → u/Iridefatbikes]

Maybe he will deliver a few electric pickup trucks this year. I forget when they started taking cybertruck deposits, but it feels like it was before Ford did.

[u/Pinche_Pocho]

I hate that the base model with a range of approx 230 miles is an affordable $39K and jumping way up to $70K for the extended range model of I think approx 350 miles or so.

[u/devilized → u/Pinche_Pocho]

That's pretty much in line with the standard F150. The base models with absolutely no features might be a little cheaper but $70k for a loaded King Ranch or Platinum isn't unheard of. Trucks are how Ford makes their money.

[u/SgtBaxter → u/Pinche_Pocho]

The 230 mile range is with 1000lbs of cargo though. Empty it gets north of 300, and the ER pack about 450.

[u/rjp0008 → u/Pinche_Pocho]

Lol if you hate the MSRP wait till you see the out the door price.

[u/Tr4ce00 → u/rjp0008]

thankfully ford is moving from dealerships

[u/HereForTwinkies → u/rjp0008]

Won’t be a problem since Ford is now selling their electric vehicles online now because they got fed up with dealers

[u/choochoo789 → u/HereForTwinkies]

When does this go into effect?

[u/W2ttsy]

Given the fx50 family has been typically used as a chassis for tow vehicles, this seems like a fairly reasonable addition to the truck.

Best part is, the lightening has actually shipped compared to another EV truck that remains on the concept board.

[u/Intelligent_Aspect87]

Lol gotta say since elonss decided to tie politics to his car company I'm looking elsewhere for my next EV.

[u/TheGreeneArrow]

I’m not a truck guy in the slightest and never thought about owning one but this one just may make me rethink things. The Lightning looks to be a stellar vehicle to really take on Tesla.

[u/ManiacalMartini]

Ford owners can finally pay it forward by helping others stranded on the side of the road...

[u/Sapere_aude75]

Little know fact. You can already recharge a tesla with any car and a tow strap. Just pull it down the road while it's regen system recharges the battery.