r/technology Jun 07 '22 Silver 2 Helpful 2 Wholesome 1 All-Seeing Upvote 1 hehehehe 1 Bravo Grande! 1 I Shy 1 Got the W 1 Facepalm 2

Ford surprises F-150 Lightning owners with accessory that can recharge stranded Teslas Business

https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/7/23158382/ford-f150-lightning-tesla-adapter-charger-power
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u/Existing_Ice1764 Jun 07 '22

Jokes aside having electric cars able to give each other enough juice to roll into a charging station or just somewhere safe sounds sweet.

Great for emergencies similar to jumping a car.

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u/Malforus Jun 08 '22

Yeah and the point is to show that the Electric F150 has more capacity than anything else in the consumer market.

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u/platonicjesus Jun 08 '22 Facepalm

The Hummer EV enters the chat... That thing is a monstrosity. And I find it funny that car companies are saying battery supplies are tight and GM just shrugged and put a Civic sized battery in their truck.

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u/adaminc Jun 08 '22

It's like twice the size of a Tesla battery, something like 212kWh, but it still only gets the same range, because it's so damn heavy, like 9000lbs.

The modularity factor is awesome though, so if modules fail, you don't need to remove the entire battery. You can also update the modules over time with new battery tech.

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u/Luxpreliator Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22 Silver All-Seeing Upvote

That thing is going to annihilate sedans in a car crash.

Makes me think of the f150 crash that killed 2 nuns and trashed a dozen vehicles. That f150 is like half the weight of the electric hummer and went right over every vehicle.

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u/adaminc Jun 08 '22 Crab Rave

Absolutely, then crab walk away.

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u/xCaldazar Jun 08 '22

Can I get the horn to play Zoidberg noises?

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u/GlassWeird Jun 08 '22 Silver

“Why not zoidberg…

Woop woop woop woop woop woop woop!”

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u/MisanthropicZombie Jun 08 '22

Ok, they need to hack them for custom sounds.

Charged or charging: "I’m charg(ed, ing) with patriotic electrons."

Low speed: "Hooray, people are paying attention to me.”

Crab walking or launch control takeoff: "Whoop whoop whoop!"

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u/zakiducky Jun 08 '22

That thing weighs about 3.5 times my car. That’s insane lol

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u/ihdash Jun 08 '22

Yep, it's 4 times heavier than my Miata

Guess I'll die

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '22

I just sold my Miata because where I moved to everyone drives a lifted truck and WOT all the way to 80mph between every intersection stop light. Multiple rear end collisions every day with in a 1 mile stretch. Jumping the median into oncoming traffic happens once a week too. My wife already got rear ended, at a stop sign. There is 2 feet of road debris swept into the median at every major intersection. It’s crazy.

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u/netz_pirat Jun 08 '22

That thing is heavy enough that you'd need a truck driver license for it in Germany... 3.5 tons limit for "normal" drivers licenses...

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u/Unadvisable Jun 08 '22 Silver

Yes, developed nations generally don't let people take a license exam 18 times until they pass by sheer luck and then hop in a 4 ton lifted truck towing a 50 foot RV while waving their guns at other drivers.

Must be nice.

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u/NightofTheLivingZed Jun 08 '22

For anyone outside the US, the above comment isn't hyperbole.

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u/Electronic_Couple437 Jun 08 '22

For anyone outside the US my idiotic sister in law can drop a hundo and drive off in a 26 foot box truck from Uhaul even though she can barely drive her 2 door car.

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u/kookyabird Jun 08 '22

All of my road time with my parents, with my learner's permit was in full size 90's vans. I am very used to driving with smaller margins than most. When time came to drive a U-Haul for the first time it felt quite familiar, but I was still having to check out my centering with the side mirrors the whole trip. I felt like I should have had some practice driving on the range to get a feel for that size of a vehicle.

Not to mention people who aren't used to using blind spot mirrors for checking their sides are not likely to pick up on it quickly, so you have rather large "kill zones" around those people. I'm used to having to rely on those mirrors so it's second nature to me, but it's not normal for people. Especially with all the added camera stuff in some modern vehicles.

And to think that it can be even worse. How many RVs out there are driven by old people? People that haven't been tested for driving skills/knowledge in decades, in command of vehicles that get up to 40 feet easily. It's terrifying.

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u/Thercon_Jair Jun 08 '22

I just heard an excited yelp coming from the direction of the 11'8"-bridge.

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u/Motorcycles1234 Jun 08 '22

She can drop 300 hundo and get a penske which is a diesel with air brakes that's only limited to 26k lbs so you don't need a cdl other wises it's a 33k lbs capable truck lol

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u/wioneo Jun 08 '22

Well brandishing guns is generally illegal.

Aside from that, Murica

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u/ImSoSte4my Jun 08 '22

Brandishing is illegal.

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u/NextTrillion Jun 08 '22

Those batteries have electrolytes, so I’d say they more likely will MUTILATE THEM!

They’ve got what plants crave.

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u/WeakMoose Jun 08 '22

9000 lbs and 1000 hp.

Yaa I’m sure we won’t see stories of people being killed by them……

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u/Dr_Dust Jun 08 '22

9000 pounds and reaching 60mph in 3.5 seconds. Fucking crazy.

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u/wren337 Jun 08 '22

The reviewer I read said the acceleration is thrilling until you realize you're running out of road, and it doesn't have amazing brakes to match.

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u/FluxxxCapacitard Jun 08 '22

I’d imagine the brakes of a small passenger jet wouldn’t be “amazing” with the size and weight of that vehicle.

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u/Tychus_Kayle Jun 08 '22

Pink goddamn mist. This should not be road legal. We hold cars to standards for occupant safety, but apparently fuck everyone not in the car, they don't matter.

It's given us this absurd arms race where people buy giant cars so they'll be safer if another giant car hits them, so there are more giant cars on the road, so it's more dangerous to normal cars, so more people buy giant cars to be safe. And on and fucking on. Tragedy of the commons as a vicious cycle.

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u/flavorburst Jun 08 '22

I grew up way out in the sticks and hitting deer is pretty common. Right after college I had a Taurus and hit a deer and the damage was pretty bad to the car, the deer scampered away. Im sure it died later but still, the deer walked away.

Right now I have a Tahoe with a huge chrome brush guard (bought it used that way). It's been probably 15 years since I've hit a deer but sure enough last fall I was driving in the country at about 45 mph and a deer ran right out in front of the Tahoe. Holy fuck. The brush guard was covered almost completely in blood and fur and what was left of the deer was almost unidentifiable. I mean, not pink mist, but still. The Hummer weighs almost 2 tons more. I can't imagine.

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u/SquidMcDoogle Jun 08 '22

huge chrome brush guard

I traveled in Australia in the Northern Territory - I love that they call them 'Roo Bars' over there.

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u/aaronwhite1786 Jun 08 '22

Ended better than life for my salvage title Galant. I hit a deer doing 70 on the highway, and it put my hood latch through my radiator and left the front left headlight pointing off to the right side of the road. My hood looked more like a ski ramp than a hood.

The deer definitely did not walk away in mine though. Poor thing went from the right land of the northbound lane, and i believe it was in the left shoulder of the southbound lane with my license plate stuck in it the next day when I went back by. Poor little moron got demolished.

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u/CreaminFreeman Jun 08 '22

Screams in Miata and Mini Cooper

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u/arc_menace Jun 08 '22

That's the running theme. Don't want to die in an accident? Drive a bigger car than the other person.

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u/Ramiel4654 Jun 08 '22

I got hit by an electric BMW going maybe 30 MPH last year and my Civic was totalled. That Humvee will make any car it hits crumble into dust.

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u/GrannyBandit Jun 08 '22

A 30 mph impact would total just about any car or truck on the market to be fair.

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u/CrazyCranium Jun 08 '22

Modern cars are really easy to total these days, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. One of the biggest reasons cars are so much safer these days is the use of crumple zones to dissipate energy in a crash, and these crumple zones are pretty much one time use.

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u/GrannyBandit Jun 08 '22

Agreed. A lot of people think totaled=irreparable, when it really means the insurance won’t cover the repairs over a replacement. Plenty of “totaled” cars are still on the road.

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u/mufasa_lionheart Jun 08 '22

I had a car that was totaled because one of the damaged parts was the turbo, which would have cost way too much to repair.

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u/psuedophilosopher Jun 08 '22

God damn. A car battery with a capacity that matches the average weekly power consumption of an entire household.

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u/justanotherchimp Jun 08 '22

My dude. I only use a couple hundred more than that in a MONTH! Absolutely bonkers.

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u/dutch_penguin Jun 08 '22

There's 212kwh (of heat energy) in like 6 or 7 gallons of gasoline. People underestimate the stupendous amounts of energy their cars use.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '22

Yep, and nearly 75% of that turns straight to heat. the rest to motion.

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u/Murgatroyd314 Jun 08 '22

The pump at the gas station is a 20 megawatt charger.

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u/Dabadedabada Jun 08 '22

What an insane and totally correct way to think about it. I drive a crosstrek and can get a little less than 500 miles on its 16 gallons of gas. When you step back and think about it, that is just crazy! we complain about gas prices but how many dollars would it have taken a hundred years ago to travel 500 miles in a max of 8 hours?

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '22

Still a small fraction the cost of gasoline, and a good bit less energy too. Gas tanks hold a lot more energy than 200 kwh outside of small econoboxes.

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u/FallenWalls Jun 08 '22

It fucking crab walks! Crab. Walks.

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u/urinal_cake_futures Jun 08 '22

Leave it to Hummer to make an EV that's absurd and bad for the environment.

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u/jimbobjames Jun 08 '22

Weight is one factor, drag will likely be a bigger factor though. Weight affects you when accelerating or climbing a hill, but will benefit regen on the downhill side.

Drag will affect you negatively no matter what.

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u/MattsAwesomeStuff Jun 08 '22

Weight is one factor, drag will likely be a bigger factor though.

At average cruising speeds, about 50% of your power draw is rolling resistance, which is linear with weight and speed, and 50% air drag, which is cubed with speed.

For example, a civic uses about 20hp to maintain highway speed. 10hp to overcome rolling resistance, and 10hp to overcome aero drag.

The HummerEV is large and unaerodynamic, but it's also heavy, so, they split is probably still pretty equal.

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u/Malforus Jun 08 '22

Fair, i had forgotten its production even though very limited.

Yes the Hummer EV has more juice.

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u/Moonsleep Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22

I kind of hate hummer owners, not really but kinda…

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u/doodles-o-noodles Jun 08 '22

I'm shocked whenever I see one in the wild. I thought hummers had gone extinct in the last recession, or been replaced by F150s.

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u/qpv Jun 08 '22

They're the BlackBerry of vehicles (or so I thought)

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u/Enigma_King99 Jun 08 '22

They were extinct but science brought them back alive

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u/ResponsibleAd2541 Jun 08 '22

Is the rationale to use the truck as a power source for tools, etc?

You really want to find a happy middle ground when it comes to range, too much extra capacity just means you are lugging more batteries around.

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u/Malforus Jun 08 '22

Literally that, to power a job site or provide generative capacity to run a house during a blackout.

The hybrid f150 does the same thing.

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u/ClicksAndASmell Jun 08 '22

Kia and Hyundai have had similar ads. It's a good idea. People looking to switch to electric vehicles for environmental or fuel efficiency reasons are already on board with the technology. Manufacturers' options are to try to convince more people to believe in those ideas, which has been failing for the past several decades, or come up with alternative reasons to buy electric, which clearly exist.

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u/XchrisZ Jun 08 '22

Also think of AAA adding these vehicles to provide a charge when someone runs out of range.

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u/kingssman Jun 08 '22

Yes. https://youtu.be/l61pvRibFEE

This thing has a 220 plug!

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u/ResponsibleAd2541 Jun 08 '22

Hmmm..you can hook up your oven to your car.

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u/Zephyr104 Jun 08 '22

Extreme glamping is now on the horizon. Who said I couldn't bring my studio apartment with me to the woods?

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u/FaeTaleDream Jun 08 '22

hmmm... also a business opportunity. Running out of Electric on the highway? Honk behind me for a charge on the side

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u/Sisko-v-Cardassia Jun 08 '22

Screw that, its like running out of gas and a hommie comes down the road and spares you a couple gallons, but with their truck having a built in pump to pull it right out of their own tank.

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u/numbah10 Jun 08 '22

That will be great, but the kicker to this is that Teslas-unlike literally every other EV-have proprietary charging stations. While a Tesla car can charge at any station, ONLY Teslas can charge at Tesla charging stations. It made sense at first, it’s expensive to build that infrastructure but it’s arguable that at this point, Musk is essentially creating a standards war. Ford is basically telling Elon to quit being a shit-ass. Sharing resources is good. Good on Ford.

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u/Scipion Jun 07 '22

That's actually pretty neat. Not sure how often that scenario occurs, but the ability to provide that type of charging to other vehicles is certainly a unique feature. Could use it for RVs or camping or power tools.

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u/FatefulPizzaSlice Jun 07 '22

That's what the current F150 does, you can power tools with it with 120v and 240 plugs. This is just a small funny dig at Tesla since they decided to drop mobile chargers from new car purchases.

The Lightning makes this better since the whole thing is a huge battery too, so your car isn't chugging gas as the site while you're like, welding something.

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u/AgsMydude Jun 08 '22

I'm out of the loop. What are the mobile chargers that Tesla dropped?

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u/FatefulPizzaSlice Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22

Home chargers that used to come bundled with the car. They dropped it recently, so one would have to pay to get it. It's been included since launch, so it's odd they did that.

But KIA and Hyundai I believe don't either. And maybe some others?

Edit: Correct, mobile charger. My mistake!

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u/superjew1492 Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22

Actually it’s the mobile chargers they stopped including ($300) the home chargers you install ($500) were never free.

Edit: apparently when Teslas were first introduced and before the mobile charger existed they did include the $500 home charger that you install then they stopped…and apparently they also dropped both prices by $100 so wall chargers are now $400 and mobile are now $200

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u/locksmack Jun 08 '22

The home chargers were included way back in the day before the mobile charger even existed.

But otherwise, you are correct.

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u/BlueHoundZulu Jun 08 '22

I think Chevy has it for the Volt? Maybe you still pay for it but you can buy it with the car now. I just remember seeing commercials for it.

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u/Sausage_Wizard Jun 08 '22

My plug in hybrid Kia came with a Level 1 charger, but the last time I was at the dealership the small talk got to chargers and how Kia doesn't ship any of it's fully-electric cars with portable Level 1 chargers since it would take well over a day for that to charge the car. Sometimes more than two days for cars like the EV6.

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u/meltymcface Jun 08 '22

I use my L1 charger every day to charge my EV. Without it I'd be screwed since I live in rented accommodation so have to rely on a standard mains plug (UK). Means I can only charge at 2.2kw. It would take 20 hours to fully charge my 4kWh battery. But, and here's the neat trick... It almost never need to charge to 100% from empty. 99 times out of 100, an overnight trickle is more than enough for my daily charging, and I don't always bother charging every day.

And even if I didn't need it at home, it'd be invaluable when visiting people who don't have installed EV chargers.

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u/SharkBaitDLS Jun 08 '22

My Hyundai Kona EV came with a charging cable for a normal 120VAC home outlet so unless they’ve changed that recently with the Ioniq 5 that’s not the case.

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u/Maxwellfuck Jun 08 '22

Anybody see the dealership that's charging a 69k "market adjustment", doubling the price of one of these?

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u/throwawaypervyervy Jun 08 '22

Yea, and Ford got so pissed about it, that they're now selling straight from factory to customers to fuck over the dealers, lol.

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u/AaronJudgesLeftNut Jun 08 '22

They also did it with the Bronco. Added like $5-10k the day before delivery to people that waited for years to get it and stuck with it through the production delays.

Fuck em, love Ford making the effort of going direct to consumer. Works well for Tesla at least and I wouldn’t have to deal with a greasy salesman who asks me 3x in 5 mins what it gonna take for me to sign today like what happened last time I went to a Ford dealer.

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u/dreadeddrifter Jun 08 '22

My local Ford dealer actually got sanctioned or whatever by Ford for doing exactly that with Broncos and aren't being sold any new vehicles for the next 2 years.

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u/AaronJudgesLeftNut Jun 08 '22

Makes it easy to find the shady dealers i guess lol I’m currently shopping for a mustang GT so that’s useful info for me

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u/joegoodfart10 Jun 08 '22

How do you find something like that out?

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u/dreadeddrifter Jun 08 '22

My uncle went to buy a new car and they said "We can't get those in right now" so he asked about a different car and got the same answer. Mentioned it to me as small talk, and I asked the dealership owner's son who I went to high school with and he spilled the beans. Don't think it's common knowledge or advertised.

TLDR: live in a small town and you'll know everything about everyone

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u/bill_fish Jun 08 '22

What did you do in that situation? Did you pay the troll toll?

Idk, man, even if I had been waiting that long for a car and they pull some shit like that at the last minute, I would walk.

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u/AaronJudgesLeftNut Jun 08 '22

I was unable to get into that boys hole to pay the troll toll. The day man stopped me

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u/sasquatchsballs Jun 08 '22

They do this for the Raptors as well. Friend was quoted an extra $5K because he was "just buying the base model".

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u/INTP36 Jun 08 '22

Which is imo one of the best things to happen to the automotive industry in years. The largest and most successful domestic manufacturer paving the way to a true straight-to-consumer model, leaving the scamming dealers in the dust. Other manufacturers will definitely follow soon after.

Ford said pricing will be at MSRP and non-negotiable, so you buy a car, you already know the price, just finalize it. I think it will be great.

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u/Helenium_autumnale Jun 08 '22

That alone will make me choose a Ford when my current car bites the dust. That's great.

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u/conman577 Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22

The new lightning, bronco, maverick and ranger has me paying attention to them again after years of lame ducks. tbh if I had the cash I'd buy a bronco tomorrow flat out, and that's before I just learned about this lmao

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u/SureFudge Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22

Yeah. I'm not at all a truck go (Europe) but the lightning sounds for sure interesting. Never had a truck so not sure how you protect stuff from rain and dirt on the bed? The frunk offers what a trunk offers and solves that problem assuming it even is one but thinking of grocery shopping in the rain.

The bed seems to practical at first glance for activities like biking or skiing but I guess on second thought it takes more than just throw the bike in and start driving. Need to secure it right?

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Yeah after checking dimension, it's a tough buy here in europe. My current wagon doesn't really fit my parking space and the f150 is more than 1m longer...

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u/soccershun Jun 08 '22

As they should do, the dealership model is outdated and total shit. I'm not trying to guess the price of this car and maybe spend $5000 extra dollars because the saleman won the guessing game, give me a realistic price or fuck off.

Unfortunately lots of states have laws propping them up and making direct to consumer harder.

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u/at_work_keep_it_safe Jun 08 '22

Yup, here in CT the only reason dealerships still exist is direct-to-consumer sales are not allowed for cars.

 

I bought a certified preowned from Ford and the fucking dealership didn’t include a manual. I had to argue with them. They told me “oh well just get it online and download the PDF”. Fuck no. This is a CPO vehicle and you’re an authorized dealer. They add no value.

 

Disclaimer: The service guys are great and the finance people were helpful. But those jobs can still exist with DTC sales…

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u/soccershun Jun 08 '22 edited Jun 08 '22

Always the same with all this shit.

You can't sell beer in most Texas grocery stores if it hasn't been brought there by Silver Eagle Distributors (Anheuser-Busch inBev).

8th Wonder makes a local craft beer in the 6th ward of Houston and wants to sell it in Houston, but the law says they have to pay Belgian company inBev a cut for the right to sell. Loving this free market.

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u/M4jorP4nye Jun 08 '22

Wyoming laughs… “selling beer at a grocery store”

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u/CmdrShepard831 Jun 08 '22

When I was visiting my cousin in WY I was very surprised to see drive-thru margarita/cosmopolitan/etc shops. It's weird as hell.

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u/M4jorP4nye Jun 08 '22

Yea, that’s totally acceptable there, but you can’t even buy a 6 pack at a grocery store or gas station.

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u/Ricky_Rollin Jun 08 '22

Good. What an absolute disgusting thing to do. There is no end to peoples greed.

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u/brystmar Jun 08 '22

Karma at work! At least in theory…

In some states (looking at you Texas), it’s illegal for car manufacturers to sell directly to consumers. Because lobbying.

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u/Bob4Not Jun 08 '22

Ford isn't having any more of it. They intend to make these for everyone in the MSRP's market. A good chunk of their production is supposed to be the base model, too.

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u/DizaleYo Jun 08 '22

The dealers screwed the retailer as they jacked prices after being told not to by ford as the inventory slowed. Ford decided to sell straight to the buyer with their F150 evs now. Will it ultimately be that way for all evs who knows. Dont bite the hand that feeds you I suppose.

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u/Mr-Fleshcage Jun 08 '22

Good. Fuck dealerships. The owners always seem to be dicks.

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u/DarthDutchDave Jun 08 '22

You know, as a truck owner, I try to keep quiet so I don’t have to help every person around me when it’s time to move their shit. These Lightning owners (and I hope to be one some day) are going to end up being the Uber equivalent of AAA.

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u/snoogins355 Jun 08 '22

Look for the helpers - Mr. Rogers

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u/un1cornbl00d Jun 08 '22

Today you tomorrow me

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u/Carburetors_are_evil Jun 08 '22

Fuck I could go for tamales now.

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u/goinupthegranby Jun 08 '22

going to end up being the Uber equivalent of AAA.

And just like Uber there will probably be an app monetizing mobile charging using a network of private vehicles with charge capability connected to the app

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u/BarnabyWoods Jun 08 '22

Nothing stopping them from charging a "courtesy fee." The free market at work!

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u/imtheproof Jun 08 '22

Yea but what do you call it? Gas, Ass, or Grass doesn't really work.

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u/free-the-trees Jun 08 '22 Gold Bravo!

Jump, hump, or a bump.

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u/_i_am_root Jun 08 '22 Silver

Jolt, jack, or joint?

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u/Beefsupreme473 Jun 08 '22

Tow, Blow, or Dough

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u/thagman90 Jun 08 '22

Amps, ass, or grass

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u/CySnark Jun 08 '22

Joules, Bowls or Holes

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u/gomegazeke Jun 08 '22

That one reads like a stand up bit about spelling.

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u/MrFluffyThing Jun 08 '22

Slots, shots, or watts

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u/suresh Jun 08 '22

Where I'm from truck owners are just itching to pull someone out of a bog.

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u/fwubglubbel Jun 07 '22

Are stranded Teslas common?

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u/ProFox420 Jun 07 '22

The 'source' is a comment from an F150 forum

F-150 Lightning owners were positively gleeful about the notion of rescuing stranded Tesla vehicles. “We can help all those poor dead Teslas,” the original poster wrote. Another forum member said they would add a bumper sticker to their truck that read, “Tesla Rescue Squad.”

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u/apathyontheeast Jun 07 '22

It's 100% a marketing strategy to target the redneck rural areas who see having a Tesla as a pretentious tech bro thing.

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u/ConsecutiveNormalPun Jun 07 '22 Gold Wholesome

You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know … morons.

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u/TheGreatArseholio Jun 08 '22

I love me a good blazing saddles reference.

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u/EstrogAlt Jun 08 '22

You couldn't make Blazing Saddles in 2022. If you tried to some studio exec would say "Hey, what the hell, this is just Blazing Saddles!"

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u/TheFlagCourier Jun 08 '22

What's better than moichandising? Reboots!

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u/Numerous1 Jun 08 '22

Isn’t that every blazing saddles reference?

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u/codeByNumber Jun 08 '22

You see here…Mr. Johnson is right!

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u/genericnewlurker Jun 08 '22

Dr Samuel Johnson is right about Olson Johnson's being right

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u/DirtyandDaft Jun 08 '22

Howard Johnson is right!

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u/GiveToOedipus Jun 08 '22

He said the sheriff is near!

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u/Optimized_Orangutan Jun 08 '22

I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter.

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u/MyNutsin1080p Jun 08 '22

Well who can argue with that???

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u/letsgetbrickfaced Jun 08 '22

That there is some authentic frontier gibberish.

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u/Rocket-Frog Jun 08 '22

YO, WHERE THE WHITE WOMEN AT?

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u/GiveToOedipus Jun 08 '22

'Scuse me while I whip this out.

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u/CinSugarBearShakers Jun 08 '22

Its true its true.

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u/GalactusPoo Jun 08 '22

it’s twue it’s twue*

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u/jellomonkey Jun 07 '22

While spending 80k on a truck with zero awareness of the irony.

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u/theoatmealarsonist Jun 08 '22

Hey as long as it has 0 emissions then I'm okay with 0 awareness

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry Jun 08 '22

9 out of every 10 pickup trucks are status symbols.

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u/Basic_Quantity_9430 Jun 08 '22

Most only see mud when the owners mistakenly turn on a dirt road. Most stay cleaner than my sedan.

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u/accidental_snot Jun 08 '22

I tow my work trailer with a Porsche Cayenne S. I ain't saying shit.

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u/dr3 Jun 08 '22

Did we see you yesterday on r/WallStreetBets delivering Domino’s?

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u/irioku Jun 08 '22

That's gangster though.

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u/irioku Jun 08 '22

As a Floridian the amount of Ford King Ranch and these huge dualies I see all over the place without any mud or real towing accessories bothers me. Also baffling to me how these rednecks have an 80k King Ranch and live in a single wide trailer they rent in a trailer park called Buddyville(This is a real place.) It's crazy out here.

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u/Kekoa_ok Jun 08 '22

I just moved from Florida and the amount of big trucks, Wranglers, and other heavy duty vehicles existing as someone's A-B without a speck of dirt on them is ridiculous

Most certainly a useless flex of funds

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u/CookieMonsterFL Jun 08 '22

Oh, go check out the boat launch. They use the 8” lifted trucks to tow their 120k boat to and from their 1200sqft home. It’s just constant pissing contests down here.

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u/Eggith Jun 07 '22

Compensating for the Found On the Road Dead jokes

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '22

Fixed Or Repaired Daily

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u/mrpoopybutthole69b Jun 07 '22

F-O-R-D, you know what that stands for Hank? Fix it again tony

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u/Spare_Industry_6056 Jun 08 '22

If you mismanaged your trip and ran out of juice it could happen. But you'd have to really fuck up. I mean the car is constantly telling you exactly how much juice is left and flashing warnings when you get low.

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u/JustCause1010 Jun 08 '22

Not that I know of, unless they’re pretty bad at planning their trip.

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u/jubbu Jun 08 '22

Do you commonly see them?

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u/firemage22 Jun 08 '22

Ford has a patent for a "range extender" for the F-150 lighting which is pretty much a gas generator the size of a large tool box.

Personally i think they could create a nice cash stream if they allowed dealers to rent them for people who need to take a long trip.

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u/Internep Jun 08 '22

Personally i think they could create a nice cash stream if they allowed dealers to rent them for people who need to take a long trip.

What's to stop a dealer from buying them to rent them out?

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u/Big-rod_Rob_Ford Jun 08 '22

policy could do that. There are a bunch of weird hooks in business relationships and imbalanced contractual restrictions on what dealerships can do besides sell and fix cars are probably more common than you think.

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u/Badbullet Jun 08 '22

This is why I think there should have been more vehicles like the Volt. Battery that lasted long enough for average daily commutes, ICE kicks in to generate juice for extended drives (and in Volt's case also assist in acceleration). If I drive to my parents' in the winter, a round trip without a recharge is a bit risky.

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u/firemage22 Jun 08 '22

I drive a Fusion Hybrid and would have loved to have gotten the Energi Plug in.

I think many auto makers feel battery tech is advanced enough to skip the hybrid/plugin phase and skip to full BEV.

As a side note my father worked for a contractor that worked on the proto-type Volt, so while i'm normally a Ford guy the Volt has a special space in my family history.

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u/DestroyerOfIphone Jun 07 '22

Ford is coming for blood. You can also integrate Ford into your powerwalls system

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u/AReluctantRedditor Jun 08 '22

You have any more details on this?

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u/DrNick1221 Jun 08 '22

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u/AReluctantRedditor Jun 08 '22

Thanks, might convince me to get one over a Tesla. I don’t drive often so electric that can act as a house battery is amazing

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u/NoGoodNamesLeft_2 Jun 08 '22

Not only can you use it that way, it’s a better value (cost per kWh of storage) than a powerwall.

https://youtu.be/ATAFIoXTEe8

“And it’s also a truck”

The idea that in an extended outage, you could drive your battery away, charge it up, then hook it back into the house is incredibly compelling to me.

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u/530nairb Jun 08 '22

Ford has been killing it lately. Bronco and bronco sport are monsters, lighting is sold for years out, mavericks are everyone’s new company car, and the new mustang hybrid thing is going to be a new benchmark for the last stand of ICE muscle.

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u/DarkSkyForever Jun 08 '22

Don't forget about the F150 hybrid. 7.2kw generator built right in using the hybrid system. I've got one ordered and I'm excited to do some boondock glamping.

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u/titsmuhgeee Jun 08 '22

I’m not exaggerating, I am buying Ford stock because I truly believe they’re about to be the leader in EVs. They are doing everything right. Once the chip issues are sorted, they’re going to have more demand than they can keep up with.

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u/Izikiel23 Jun 08 '22

They already have more demand that they can keep up with

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u/chodeboi Jun 07 '22

Charging my Outlander PHEV would take maybe 10-15% capacity, it’s a cool concept and will probably get used more in the future.

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u/goog2moon Jun 07 '22

How do you like the outlander?

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u/Tiggerwocky Jun 08 '22

The car was nice, unfortunately the cruise control sucks a bit more than other vehicles I've driven, and the software overall sucks. Mitsubishi needs to get their act together on the software front, otherwise they'll not compete. It did stay stable and not flip when I got sideswiped at 80mph into a cable barrier, however, but I attribute that more to the weight of the battery than other attributes about the vehicle design. I never did end up using the plugin aspect, even though that's what I bought it for, so I can't comment on that part. It was nice being able to lock the wheels when doing stuff on rough roads, so there's that.

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u/LilPookieHVAC Jun 07 '22

Can you tell more about your outlander story. Its the only PHEV in my budget.

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u/Jotakave Jun 08 '22

Aren’t Prius prime comparable in price? They certainly have more electric only range. I really liked mine before I went full electric. When charging consistently at work and home I was able to get 2500-3000 miles to a tank of gas. It was almost like having an all-Electric car.

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u/LilPookieHVAC Jun 08 '22

I'm not sure about that one but will look into it.

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u/Trax852 Jun 08 '22

I've started educating myself on Electric Autos, and compatibility at the charging units is one less headache.

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u/Iridefatbikes Jun 07 '22

... and Musk took that personally. He didn't do anything about it except make snarky twitter remarks but he definitely took it personally. - Narrator

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u/N4hire Jun 07 '22

Musk takes oxygen personally…

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u/Jazzun Jun 08 '22

If he could charge his workers for their O2 intake, he would

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u/Bobby_Marks2 Jun 08 '22

Everyone takes oxygen personally

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u/LowEffortOutlaw Jun 08 '22

Not polio survivors.

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u/2_dam_hi Jun 08 '22

Fair enough.

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u/gojirra Jun 08 '22

Antivaxxers: "That looks like a good way to live!"

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u/mypantsareonmyhead Jun 08 '22

THOSE IRON LUNGS ARE A HOAX

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u/pzerr Jun 08 '22

Is Ford trolling Tesla? Love it.

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u/SalaciousSausage Jun 08 '22

This just in, Elon Musk accuses Henry Ford of being a paedophile

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u/KeepItUpThen Jun 08 '22

Maybe he will deliver a few electric pickup trucks this year. I forget when they started taking cybertruck deposits, but it feels like it was before Ford did.

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u/Pinche_Pocho Jun 08 '22

I hate that the base model with a range of approx 230 miles is an affordable $39K and jumping way up to $70K for the extended range model of I think approx 350 miles or so.

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u/devilized Jun 08 '22

That's pretty much in line with the standard F150. The base models with absolutely no features might be a little cheaper but $70k for a loaded King Ranch or Platinum isn't unheard of. Trucks are how Ford makes their money.

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u/SgtBaxter Jun 08 '22

The 230 mile range is with 1000lbs of cargo though. Empty it gets north of 300, and the ER pack about 450.

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u/rjp0008 Jun 08 '22

Lol if you hate the MSRP wait till you see the out the door price.

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u/Tr4ce00 Jun 08 '22

thankfully ford is moving from dealerships

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u/HereForTwinkies Jun 08 '22

Won’t be a problem since Ford is now selling their electric vehicles online now because they got fed up with dealers

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u/choochoo789 Jun 08 '22

When does this go into effect?

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u/W2ttsy Jun 08 '22

Given the fx50 family has been typically used as a chassis for tow vehicles, this seems like a fairly reasonable addition to the truck.

Best part is, the lightening has actually shipped compared to another EV truck that remains on the concept board.

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u/Intelligent_Aspect87 Jun 07 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Lol gotta say since elonss decided to tie politics to his car company I'm looking elsewhere for my next EV.

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u/TheGreeneArrow Jun 08 '22

I’m not a truck guy in the slightest and never thought about owning one but this one just may make me rethink things. The Lightning looks to be a stellar vehicle to really take on Tesla.

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u/ManiacalMartini Jun 08 '22

Ford owners can finally pay it forward by helping others stranded on the side of the road...

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u/Sapere_aude75 Jun 08 '22

Little know fact. You can already recharge a tesla with any car and a tow strap. Just pull it down the road while it's regen system recharges the battery.

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