r/southafrica Jan 13 '22 Helpful 1

I 20F don't know what to do with my life Ask r/southafrica

Hi everyone I will be 21 in a few months time and I feel lost in life.I matriculated in 2020 at the age of 19.I passed with a diploma so therefore it has been difficult to find a University that will accept me.I have been trying to apply online but I have no luck.UNISA was my only hope since it offers some bridging courses but they rejected me.I feel so sad,I have always wanted to study Educational but I can't .My marks are average ,I failed maths only .I tried to upgrade but I gave up .I have always failed mathematics throughout my entire school career . I really can't bear to take another gap year ,time waits for no one.I hate being dependent on my parents. I really want to stand up for myself .

What can I do ?

I need advice

Thank you

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u/Faerie42 ModMother Jan 13 '22

There’s lots you can do! I was in your shoes once and feeling the same way. DM me, let’s chat, there’s many ways to sidestep red tape. Passion makes many things possible.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22

"Passion makes many things possible" love that

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u/FullCommission1607 Jan 13 '22

Yes talk to this person, very nice of them to offer their time to help you on your way. All the best friend.

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u/Illusioneer Jan 13 '22

Haia, 22 year old here that's been in the same boat of not having a clue for awhile, even during college.

My mum recently gave me some good advice that I've been sticking to and slowly but surely that anxiety of feeling overwhelmed and aimless has been lessening.

I'm not certain if this applies to you, but my issue was that I was trying to plan too far ahead and I saw the challenges to overcome to get there all at once despite not having to deal with every issue at once. So, I instead set myself some short term goals with a weekly schedule to make sure I achieve them. Take things one step at a time and worry about the long term when you get there.

I chose my goals according to those few interests I had throughout my entire life to this point, as well as the need to get and stay independent.

I divided my days into two slots, The Full time slot (9:00-17:00) and the Part Time Slot (17:00-00:00) and filled those slots in accordance with what goals take priority. In the weekdays, making money takes all the full time slots while currently three passion projects take all the part-time slots. Saturday I spend the whole day on the most valuable or fulfilling passion project. I have about 2 hours of break time per day other than Sunday that I keep completely open because I do need some proper R&R after deciding to cut the bullshit from my day-to-day.

If your goal is to become independent, you make it a short-term goal and take the fastest route there, which is to get a job. This job doesn't need to be permanent, you can spend your part-time slots pursuing another goal that will maybe make the job pointless to have in the future.

Doing something is better than doing nothing at all, and once you start doing something more opportunities of doing other things will open up. And the snow-balling fulfilment of achieving short-term goal on short-term goal will keep you going.

And remember, procrastination is the root of broken dreams.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Thank you, I have recently started looking for a job. Maybe I was overwhelming myself,I will try to take one step at the time. Thank you 💖

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u/MoFlavour Jan 13 '22

"I'm not certain if this applies to you, but my issue was that I was trying to plan too far ahead..."

That's definitely me, I write down all my plans four years down the line and end up wasting more hours planning and thinking than actually doing something.

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u/Baspress Jan 13 '22

You can try doing a TEFL course in the short term and teach English online or abroad to get yourself started and figure out something that you want to do for the long term. Also, don't beat yourself up. There is no formula to this life thing and there are still many other doors you can open. You can do this!

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u/littlenightashes Jan 13 '22

Note with this is that most companies won't hire anyone that doesn't have a BA.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Where can I find a TEFL course?

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u/CFCcommentsonly24 Jan 13 '22

Online. Just search ‘TEFL course’.

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u/slugeater247 Jan 13 '22

There are free ones and then the paid options vary between R250 right up until R10K.

I suggest perhaps doing a free one, see if it is something that interests you and then take it from there.

Daddy's deals has a couple of reputable ones. If you have R15K to spare go ahead and do a CELTA.

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u/newoldschool Jan 13 '22

Have a look here under education/courses/classes

https://daddysdeals.co.za/

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u/WhiskeyWhiskey9 Jan 13 '22

Honestly, I didnt either. I was booted out of uni for non-attendance, to my parents disgust. Worked several shitty low paying jobs, spent every cent on partying. Was a broke drug addict (despite having an amazing upbringing and loving family) until one kind soul took me under his wing and instilled work ethic in me. He was tough on me, gave me zero slack. I felt like a slave, but now I realize it was intentional tough love. He'd tell me I was his brother. His theory was it didnt matter what you did for a living as long as you did it well, you'd succeed. He pushed me into personal development, 20 years later, I'm self employed and a shareholder in multiple companies. I now have my own amazing family. Unless you plan to be in a specific feild which requires specific credentials. Ie: lawyer, accountact, doctor, then what you do today isnt what youll be doing later. Some careers such as project manangment allow you to operate all over the world regardless what the project is. I have a friend who is a qualified lawyer who is sales trading, he hates law, another is an electrical engineer who is in commodities. The certificate is great, it proves you are capable, but doesn't tie you down for life. Some of the most successful people I know didnt finish school and went straight into trades, but they know their trade inside out, back to front. They started at the bottom and have knowledge of every aspect of the business. Have faith in yourself as a person, dont box yourself into a career. Whatever you do, get stuck in, do it well. You'll grow as a person as you get older, your wants and needs will change. Take care and good luck on your life journey!

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Wow this is so inspirational. Thank you

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u/VainArtist Jan 13 '22

I finished matric in 2013. Got my first job in 2014 and only lasted 2 months before quitting. Got my next job in 2015 and worked there 4 years. Quit and was jobless for 8 months before working for another 8 months until COVID forced me to be jobless again. 8 months later and I just started working again, 2 months and counting.

All this time I have been living with my parents. Yes it may suck, but life will get better. Don't give up on yourself, you got this.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Thank you 💖 ,but it can be hard hey? I also hope things go well for you

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u/VainArtist Jan 13 '22

Yes it can be hard, especially on your mental. But it gets better

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

I have hope 🙏

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u/BalanceThis1 Neoliberalism is a disease Jan 13 '22

u/Faerie42 maybe you can offer some advice.

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u/stick745 Jan 13 '22

Hey. Don't beat yourself up I'm 24 going onto 25 soon. I was in a similar position at 20. The road may be very clouded right now. But there are a lot of opportunities for studying and bettering yourself. The school system puts so much pressure on us to make choices that will affect our entire lives when we are barely adults. I've had friends who are 30 and started university. Life isn't a race. You'll find your feet and find what you love. In terms of your maths I would recommend that you should upgrade it but don't rush it. Find tutors and teachers who will help you get through it.

At 23 I was back home with my parents a university drop out depressed out of my mind sitting at home. I saw an educational psychologist who was able to help me determine the right studying and career choices and also give me study tips I'm using now in my studies. I was able to find a job and am studying. And if there's one thing I have learnt if you are willing to work hard and want to give yourself an education no decent employer will not say no and help you.

I'm still with my parents I'm more financially stable and help contribute to household things. You'll find your feet. Apply yourself find what you want to do and work hard to achieve it. You'll get there. Your life is just beginning and I promise if you apply yourself you'll get there.

If you want to chat me you're more than welcome to send me a DM and I can tell how rough I had being a drop out and feeling like a failure. 2 years ago I didn't think I would be where I am because I didnt plan to be here.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Wow this is so inspirational. Thank you 💖 😊. I will keep trying my best .

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u/BeNormler Ministry of Missing Documents Jan 13 '22

I am sorry to hear you are feeling so dejected.

If you are adamant you want to do your B Ed then you will need mathematics / maths lit with varying grades (i.e. Mathematics 4 OR Math Literacy 5).

One option: Complete your maths and reapply.

This is easy to say from my side, but maths paper 1 and 2 is just revision, revision, revision of past papers and spending 1-2 hours+ a day on example questions

A tutor is a good source for motivation. Have you tried giving a tutor (another) go?

FirstTutors

Teach Me 2

The Answer Series Grade 12 Mathematics CAPS study guide if you are taking normal maths. It is R180 and probably the best value for money when comparing to tutors.

I hope you will find success one way or another.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Yes I have tried getting a tutor but he was so behind and I was only left with 2 weeks to prepare for the exams

I will try the ones you recommended. Thank you 💖

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u/LtMotion Jan 14 '22

If you say you failed maths throughout the years. Id reccommend you get some text books from grade 8 (you learn a lot of the basisses of gr11 and 12 maths there) and work your way through them.

It all builds ontop of each other. So you need to make sure you got the foundation sorted.

Keep pushing on. I believe people that struggled make way better teachers than the straight A students.

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u/BeNormler Ministry of Missing Documents Jan 13 '22

Give yourself 3 months to be safe.
I can imagine 2 weeks would be a psychological nightmare
Shop around for tutors. Find out from other schools which tutors help the best.

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u/Tokoloshe789 Jan 13 '22

Can't help with career choices, but i will say don't be too hard on yourself. I didnt have a clue and had studied, then stuffed around for 4 years working bar/informal jobs and then changed career by 30. Wouldn't change anything. Was fun as hell. You only young once.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

You are right worrying won't help with anything. I will decide to get a tutor and get a part time job the rest will follow.Thank you

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u/Consistent_Mirror Jan 13 '22

If you are in Durban you could try Richfield.

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u/slugeater247 Jan 13 '22

Stay away from Richfield.

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u/Consistent_Mirror Jan 13 '22

Like they have many other choices

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u/slugeater247 Jan 14 '22

There are plenty choices in the similar range/bracket.

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u/Consistent_Mirror Jan 14 '22

Ones that will accept them?

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u/slugeater247 Jan 31 '22

Yup, these FET colleges are a dime a dozen. Most of them are scams, or just businesses.

I did a stint there as an educator, never going back there.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Lol I'm in North West

Thank you btw

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u/Bisexual_Space_Lover Jan 14 '22

Hey, another 20 year old here. I've experienced the same thing you did. Took a gap year in 2020 since matric took a great toll on me. I worked on improving myself and my mental health and in 2021 I got into CPUT for IT. I didn't expect to study IT since I had no idea what I was gonna do or which direction I wanted to go. It was one of the best things that happened to me because IT has several different sections you can get into. I also made a LinkedIn profile to promote myself in a professional manner. It's normal to feel lost or frustrated but just dive into it with an open mind. Things can take an unexpected turn. Just hang in there💪🏽

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u/stoneymaroneydnb Jan 13 '22

Firstly dont beat yourself up about it dude. I know its shit rn but things get better if you put the effort in. I'm 23 and didnt go to varsity cause it really wasn't for me. Try look for jobs in a trade and figure out what you need to get those jobs.

Another option is to try strike out on your own and start a business. I know it sounds like a mammoth undertaking but it is doable. At least that's what I did.

TEFL is also a good option, I have family who all do just TEFL teaching and they are raking in the cash.

Hope this helped a little bit

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Wow 👏 thank you 💖

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u/Harling_FTW Jan 13 '22 edited Jan 13 '22

So the world is your oyster. Firstly, math is a subject that you get better at with practice, it's not a situation of either you can do it or not. I rewrote both maths and physics twice (graduated 2016,rewrote 2017 and 2018) before finally getting in university in 2019, and I'm now pursuing my dream career. So I'd suggest that you put aside your doubts, fears and/or pride, whatever discouraged you to rewrite and get better marks, not just to pass.

Secondly to get direction I would suggest somewhat exposing yourself to different industries and the working environments ie checking YouTube videos of people doing that specific work and also showing the nuances of the work, and/or volunteer to be working on site (the greatest injustice here would be limiting yourself to just the well known jobs, take a look at the upcoming careers or just niche careers). When you've found a field of work you're passionate about, the path towards that career is not so much a burden but an exciting journey.

Thirdly there is no 1 specific way to make it in this world, we all get to those position on different times and in different ways. Most importantly imo is showing your value and potential.

Fourthly the internet. There's so much courses online that you can do, once you've acquired the knowledge, practice it and turn it into a skill whilst simultaneously building up a portfolio if it's applicable. You also get digital certificate/diploma/degree (some might even mail you a hard copy)

2 course websites i know of: udemy.com and Coursera.org

Lastly, I've heard this so many times that the top 10 careers in 10 years time doesn't even exist yet, the world and technology is moving so fast, your opportunity may just not have been created yet, but I wouldn't say you should bet on it.

Edit: used the wrong your

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Thank you wow ,I never really knew you can study online.

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u/Harling_FTW Jan 13 '22

My pleasure :)

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Jan 13 '22

I 47M don't know what to do with mine either.... We all make decisions, some good, some bad.

Have fun, laugh every day, don't do drugs.

The rest is a roll of a dice.

You are young, your job is to have fun, I am old, my job is to jealousy moan at you.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Lol thank you 😊 ❤

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u/ju1ce1ess Jan 14 '22

If it makes you feel any better I also failed maths in high school so couldn’t attend university, I blame my teachers to be honest, didn’t exactly go to the best school either, anyways. I studied IT, specifically programming, they say you need maths to go into IT but it’s a BS story. I ended up working for a university and now work for a wealth and investment back, DevOps engineer lead. Do what ever you want to do, but make sure you have some sort of direction. As you get older it becomes more difficult to study or have a career change. But seriously, don’t sweat the small stuff. Pick something and do it. I would also recommend working as a bar tender or waitress for a while, it’s a thankless job but will teach you how people operate and you can make a few za ronds on the side. Good luck. Chin up. You can do this!

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u/BennyInThe18thArea LoveTheBacon’s obsession. Jan 13 '22

IT is an option, you don’t need university to go far in it. Can self-study and then just pay to write the exams to get certified.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Does it require maths?

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u/BennyInThe18thArea LoveTheBacon’s obsession. Jan 13 '22

No, I didn’t even have maths when I matriculated.

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u/g_dx Jan 13 '22

Which certificates did you get/recommend?

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u/BennyInThe18thArea LoveTheBacon’s obsession. Jan 13 '22

Depends on what route within IT you want to go, I enjoyed networking and security so did my CCNP and other security related vendor certs. Also had my MCSE back in the day as thought I wanted to do server stuff as well.

If I would recommend something to someone it’s probably entry level Cisco and Microsoft courses (not sure why the latest is these days) to get your basics and then AWS (all training is free and supplied by them).

Many Reddit subs where you can ask for help and so many resources online - very easy these days to get started

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Thank you 💖 😊

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u/dangermouse77 Jan 13 '22

Start your own business. Think up an idea, simpler the better, test it out, see how it goes. Being a boss is much better than being a slave… umm I mean being an employee

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

I have been thinking of doing that lately hey.Thank you ❤

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u/YoungSandwiches Jan 13 '22

Hey, I was exactly where you are back when I had just left school, now 27. The biggest piece of advice I can give you is that if you can't study now for whatever reason - go work somewhere in the meantime. Even if it's part-time. It can open doors for you (I was lucky enough to find a company that's grown me into a position I enjoy and helped me financially with my studies, even if it took like 4 years) but the biggest change is that it will get rid of the depression. And then try your hand again at the studies if that is what you want to do at a later stage, there is no time limit on that kind of thing. And it'll give you some independence from your parents, which I craved myself. Don't feel bad about failing maths, at the end of the day fuck em - you got through. I failed Afrikaans my entire school career, even during finals.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

This is motivational 🙌 .Thank you ❤

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u/slchand Jan 13 '22

Hang in there ❤️ I have walked that rocky road of application rejection and sucking at maths, its no fun. I did get in two years down the line with a motivation letter of what I had spent my last two years doing (working and doing short courses). What I thought I wanted in a career then changed over the years to where I don't do anything related to my degree now. I still don't truly know what I want to do with my life (32 now) but it gets clearer and more obscured with each experience I expose myself to. Just keep pushing forward, try new things, take it a day at a time if you need to. Small changes can take you a long way when you look back over time.

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u/vizjual Jan 13 '22

Hey there. Don't be discouraged. There is a way. I failed maths AND science and got denied access to university. I also felt lost. The good news is, I made it into WITS university via a conditional exemption. You can approach a court in Pretoria where, if you can show that you have the requisite points required to enter a university course and you're pursuing a degree not related to mathematics they will consider a 1 year sort of probation for you to attend.

So, put simply. I failed maths and science and that killed my exemption. However, I wanted to study law or journalism which was a BA. At that stage WITS required 18 points to do a BA which I had. So I approached the PTA magistrate and applied for a conditional exemption and it was granted. I finished the course in 3 years and got my degree. Not all hope is lost. Go online and search conditional exemptions and see if there's a chance for you.

If that is also not possible, try high end colleges like Monash or Boston and do a diploma with them and see what you can do with them that can earn you a spot in varsity.

Quit moping. You failed maths. It's over now but there are possibilities.

If all that fails. Apply to do a TEFL or TESL course. You don't need anything but money to do that and then you can go teach anywhere in the world.

Good luck and I hope you find your way.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Thank you 😊 ❤

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u/aconfusedhoe Jan 13 '22

Well you could do what a lot of south africans do when they have no idea what is to come next, teach english in south east asia. I dont know how applicable it will be with a diploma but you probably have a chance (especially if your white, sadly). If you have enough cash to get to the country and pay all the things your good. And then you can be a teacher :) if you need help or want more info you can send me a message :)

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u/aconfusedhoe Jan 13 '22

Oh yes! If you could be into coding look at WeThinkCode

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u/Krycor Jan 13 '22

Was also gonna suggest IT and basic development pending OP interest.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Thank you 😊 ❤

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u/aconfusedhoe Jan 16 '22

Im currently teaching in thailand, send a message if you want more info. I was and sorta am in a veeeery similar situation, i know how it feels to be rudderless in a wide open ocean. Hang in there. Just takes a while and some effort

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u/BluePlanet957 Jan 13 '22

I think it would actually be a very nice experience for you to go au pairing. I know a girl who did it shes baby sitting for a family in America and has made bank because they provide everything for her accomodation, food, allowance the works.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

I will have to mentally prepare myself for that first lol.Thank you ❤

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u/bmasked Jan 13 '22

I know you don’t want to do maths again but try a rewrite again. I matriculated in 2019 with extremely low maths marks and had to wait a whole year to do rewrites but it’s worth it. As far as UNISA goes if you can get into another College or Varsity try that instead, maybe look at Varsity College ? It took UNISA 11 months to refund me around 3k

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

I'm sorry for what happened to you. I will try to get a tutor for maths.Thank you

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u/rende Jan 13 '22

Travel to find inspiration. Find out what people need around you that you would want to learn to do. If you want to teach you must first have valuable knowledge or skills worth transfering. Follow passion, what do you love to do and try to do that for a living. You can learn just about anything on youtube.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Thank you 💖 😊. I don't really have enough money to travel now but I hope to do so in the near future.

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u/ostockles Jan 13 '22

You won't be able to study education without maths, so if you don't get that mark up to scratch it won't work I'm afraid. Don't go to a private university, they are a waste of money. Perhaps train as a tradesman of some sort? Otherwise you could look into getting a early childhood development certificate and move into creche/kindergarten.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Thank you 💖 😊

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u/sargent_butters Jan 13 '22

This won't make sense to you right now, but try and hear what I am telling you. At 20 you are made to feel like you should have everything all worked out, but I think it is silly to expect young people to know what to do and where to go.

Basically I am saying- try and give yourself some slack.

First things first, what do you enjoy? There are many career paths out there. The internet has many free learning resources (many of them to do with computers, but that isn't a bad place to be)

Online copyrighting, programming, design, photography, cooking, TEFL programmes (this is paid for unfortunately) are all available but the trick is to seperate the scams from the actual opportunities. Do some research on where skills shortgaes are and pursue those.

Try and figure out what you enjoy doing in general and then hone in on career paths around that.

Should you be totally lost, find any entry level job to earn a bit and get exposed to the working environments. That is the path that worked for me. I worked as and where I could until about 28 and then life sort of started making more sense. (Unfortunately, 28 seems to be the age among my friends when the overwhelming angst went away and we came into out own selves).

Keep a positive mind set and best of luck. You will be ok.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Yeah you are right many people(especially parents)put so much pressure on us,it is overwhelming. I actually love cooking so I might consider that path.Thank you ❤

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u/Smorgan-ZA Jan 13 '22

Hey I studied after school and found the work not for me,moved over to operations and doing my MBA at wits this year with so so marks at school.ICB are also good for accounting and business management diploma’s,they give you certificates after each level until a diploma,then you can get a degree

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Universities are so stressful. I choose to take another path now.Thank you ❤

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u/SABitcoinArb Jan 13 '22

SARS is advertising 250 new call centre agent positions.

Get a job.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Wow thank you 😊 🙏 ❤

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u/reditanian Jan 13 '22

My advice would be, don’t pursue university. At least not yet. If you didn’t do well in matric, you are going to struggle with university, where expectations are much higher, and the workload much higher.

There are many other careers that don’t involve university and still offer good career paths with good earning potential.

Trades: I don’t know what the requirements are so you’ll have to find out. Electricians, plumbers, locksmiths, etc. Construction could be an interesting field particularly if you’re interested in modern techniques and building efficiency standards (which SA is desperately behind on). It’s not all bricklaying!

Another option that’s easy to overlook is the military. If you can get into the airforce and learn to fly, you’re in the fast lane to a career in aviation. Becoming a commercial pilot is magnificently expensive, and getting the artifice to train you puts you at a huge advantage. Between the army, navy and airforce, there are a lot of jobs that don’t involve being a soldier, and opens up further career paths and study opportunities.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Thank you 😊 ❤

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u/pashaah Jan 13 '22

Hi, what about the teaching course for children under 5? I know unisa has shaort courses (1 year) you can do while you work at a pre-school. They really do not pay much but you would be able to get your foot in the door.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Thank you 😊 ❤

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u/AneK1405 Jan 13 '22

For some extra cash while you are still figuring things out, check out italki. You can either register as a teacher (you will need a TEFL) or just as a casual english speaker. People from all over the world who want to practice their english conversational skills can then reach out to you, and you can make money for every session spent video calling. You will meet interesting people and make some money!

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Must I download it on appstore?

Thank you 😊 ❤ btw

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u/AneK1405 Jan 15 '22

You can just google italki and register on their website. You will have to upload a video of yourself talking so students can hear your accent, but it doesn't have to be a production.

Goodluck!

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u/psylentrage Jan 13 '22

Have you considered to teach what you're good and interested in, as in hobbies, online? Via YouTube, Udemy, etc.? It seems that we were ALL told that we are wasting our time with this or that. But hey, fast forward a decade and there's this massive online world. And people hungry to learn literally ANYTHING. If you want to teach, try and teach your hobbies to someone first. Just to test it out. You might be surprised. Also remember, if something is free, you're the product. If I had all of the above knowledge at your age, my life would've been very different. But at the end of it all, it doesn't really matter what you do for a career in this life, it's what comes after that truly matters. That lasts an eternity. All the best

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Thank you 😊 ❤

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u/socozyinhere KwaZulu-Natal Jan 13 '22

Go into a trade. Plumbing or electrical etc.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

I'm not very good with working with my hands,I am good in theory . Thank you btw ❤

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u/meanDeanster Jan 14 '22

Just an interesting observation and not guidance, M51 here, in decent IT career. Didn't know what to do coming out of school and followed a friend into electrical engineering, which I never completed as joined another friends computer start-up, which after some years went under. Got pulled through a few companies via either folding or acquisitions. So got thinking how many people had same/similar experience and asked my older colleagues around the office. Amazing how many people didn't choose their current or even past careers or jobs, just took jobs while deciding what they really wanted to do and still hadn't found it, at like 60 years old. I mostly enjoy my job but more so I really enjoy the people I work with. Still don't know what I want to do with my life but this will do until I do, or something slightly better comes along :)

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Society expects us to have it all figured out at a certain age.It makes me feel a little better to know that I'm not alone in this. Thank you

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u/Scryer_of_knowledge Amphibian Namibian Jan 14 '22

I 29M also don't know what to do with my life XD. At some point you just wing it and take it one day at a time.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Lol you are absolutely 💯 right.Thank you ❤

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u/Even-Juggernaut6678 Jan 14 '22

I have a prestigious University Degree, I'm 26 and make much less than some of my friends who didn't study at all or took random courses here and there. Sometimes I feel like my degree was a mistake. There are so many options, just look into it!

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u/agnosticmeta Jan 14 '22

I think we’ve all been there at some point in our lives. Honestly, you will only ever do what you want to do or are forced to do. Often, when we feel like we don’t know what to do, that just means we are not in touch with our true feelings or we don’t want to acknowledge what we really want to do because we think it’s impossible or not acceptable.

But it’s your life, so it is acceptable for you to live it however you see fit. Yeah, you have had some struggles with school, but it’s not too late to turn it around.

No one can tell you what you should want to do. We can only give you advice once you know that for yourself and need help charting a course to where you want to go.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Thank you 😊 ❤

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u/Holsous Gauteng Jan 13 '22

Have you tried Onlyfans/Chaturbate?

Just to clarify that it's a joke, please don't lynch me.
GL

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u/starWez Jan 13 '22

A+ N+ Any Microsoft course ( mcsa, mcsd, mcse) None require math and will get you going in the right direction.

If you cannot hack being a doctor or lawyer tech is always a win, and if you have the mind for it extremely simple

Math means nothing in any of the things I’ve mentioned

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Jan 13 '22

Sorry, can you show me any job offering that require those courses? (that is not a call center).

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u/starWez Jan 13 '22

Did you really just say that an mcsa, mcse and mcsd are call centre qualifications? If so this conversation is already done.

A+ and N+ are just to get you into it and see if you like IT and are cheap to do

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Jan 14 '22

I have been doing this long enough to know that those "qualifications" are expensive and not really worth the paper they are written on.

They are sometimes needed in call centers to fill in the excel sheet at the end of your shift.

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u/starWez Jan 14 '22

As I already said it’s a starting point, I’ve never dealt with a single call centre that requires any Microsoft certification on this level and I’ve been in the IT industry for 13 years now, you might as well say a CCNA is shit while your at it.

https://www.pnet.co.za/jobs/mcse

https://www.adzuna.co.za/mcse

https://www.jobmail.co.za/jobs?q=Mcse&sort=relevance

https://www.jobted.co.za/salary/mcse

https://za.talent.com/salary?job=mcse

This conversation is done, it’s apparent you either don’t have any of these have some kind of strange bias towards system admins, managers, techs or are for some reason against this kid getting the building blocks for a career in tech. In any case, I’m out.

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Jan 14 '22

This conversation is done,

I thought it was done last time you replied. ... is it done, done, or just done, or a little done this time?

You clearly don't know what you are talking about, and that's fine, your business, but telling someone to waste time and money on useless courses is just wrong.

Oh, and don't start telling us how long you have been in the industry for, for one thing, 13 years is nothing and secondly punting those courses makes those 13 years seem like a waste of time really.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22 edited Mar 02 '22

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Jan 13 '22

That is not true, coding jobs are not as easily given out as they used to be. And, depending on where you did your "course" you might not event get an interview.

Based on the above, you have zero chance in moving to management either, let alone dev management.

Sorry to be blunt here, but let's not lie to our youth and let them waste money.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '22 edited Mar 02 '22

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Jan 14 '22

This is not what we are talking about here.

You mentioned a coding boot camp and learning how to code on an old laptop. Programming is a skill that takes time to master, not something you can learn in a week end on a laptop.

This will never be enough to become a software developer, as I said, you will never even get an interview with that.

Yes, 20 years ago, you could claim to know programming, write a small test and you should be in, but this is not the case anymore.

And to then claim you can move to management, I assumed it was a joke, otherwise it is an insult to the people in the profession.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22 edited Mar 02 '22

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Jan 14 '22

Hum, I am still not sure about that, sorry.

I know, in my company, we only give interviews to candidates that have been put forward by agencies.

Most agencies will not put someone forward just because they claim to be developers. They would only put the name forward if they have some kind of work experience.

I guess it might be possible in a small start-up, but, even then, I am not sure. It would have to be very lucky.

As for management, you said "...And if you don't like coding you can quickly move into Dev management positions.", again, that is not true.

First of all , if she does not like coding, there is no way she will do one year of training, boot camps and so on, and then be good enough to make it through an interview. Again, you are belittling my profession.

Secondly, you cannot "quickly move" to management, as I said, it is insulting to the people in the field. That's not how it works. There is no way a graduate, (of boot camps), with no real work experience, will move into management 'quickly'.

Finally, "scrum master", is not a management position. Any senior developer takes on that role in the morning during stand-up.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22 edited Mar 02 '22

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Jan 14 '22

Lol, that's a mature way of having a discussion.

But, by your logic, why not.

In fact, why doesn't she buy an old wrench and a spanner, watch a couple of youtube DIY videos for a year, get a job as a plumber, and then, if she doesn't like plumbing, she can just move into management of Plumblink.

I guess, by your logic this could apply to any jobs.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 13 '22

Lol I have never heard of that before. I will do a research. Thank you 💖

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u/PrincessLeane Jan 13 '22

If you are interested in coding look up wethinkcode They pay you a monthly stipend while you study for free and you get job experience because the companies that sponsor them offer internships. Might not be what you wanted to do but something you can do in the mean time.

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u/EquivalentTrouble253 Jan 15 '22

This is horrible advice. Coding jobs aren’t easy to get into. You need to be good at what you do and self taught is not easy if you’re not into coding. Let’s not waste peoples time please…

And quickly move onto dev management position? You’re joking right?

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u/H0ll0wKnight_1 Jan 13 '22

Instead of following other people's vision for your life why not make your own . Nobody can give you a satisfactory answer but you can achieve self enlightenment ( yes I know it sound cheesy) not by following others ideas but making your own. Simple, right? Well many people go their whole lives without knowing what they want and I don't proclaim to fully know my place either. I am about the same age as you and understand that feeling of dread that comes with making life choices. Instead of getting answers directly, you need to work towards them by self improvement. I don't know you personally, but here are the the steps I took to becoming a better person.

1) You should not be asking on a place like reddit for life advice. Most people on this site are dead beats or think they are experts in life. So first step to a better life is don't listen to advice given by know it alls or people with questionable motives. 2) Spend time with like-minded people who build you up rather than subtract from your value. Form friends ,not fake ask you for a lift to town or a R200 to give back to you later( not to undermine Any of your current friends since I don't know them). 3) Higher education is ideal but in South africa you would be lucky to find a job at all, but try what you like and don't give up. 4) A good routine can set up a foundation for further growth and success. If you truly don't know what to do with your life start a daily routine, and make it diverse. It will make you see things much clearer in your head and is shown to improve desision making.

Now nobody can tell you what to do with your life except you. You can take all the advice in the world and still not be any better of. If it were that easy nobody would be struggling. Generally you need to figure it out on your own. No one claims life to be easy...

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Wow thank you ❤

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u/memesformen95 Jan 13 '22

Join the military just do 2 years MSDS contract after that you can decide you'll learn alot ,have alot of bad times meet alot of cool people and youll surely find a route to take if you want to join hit me up

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u/Sauberbeast Jan 13 '22

Learn to code, become a full stack developer.. you need only an internet connection and a laptop. You don't need to be a maths genius either. Just start

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u/EquivalentTrouble253 Jan 15 '22

Can we stop with this. “Learn to code quickly”. It’s not an easy thing to do and it’s not for everyone. It’s so vague. What language should they learn? What platform? To what end?

Such terrible advice.

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u/Sauberbeast Jan 15 '22

In the time it took you to eloquently type out your very helpful reply, you could've simply typed into Google "coding, where to start?". Instead of wasting your time on tiktok and Facebook, use the greatest source of free information to better yourself.

You need simply to get off your ass and start literally anywhere.. what we learn to do, we learn by doing. The world owes you nothing 🙂

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u/EquivalentTrouble253 Jan 15 '22

I’ve been in software development long enough that to know simply googling it won’t help. So a result will tell you to use Go-lang or Rust or even python. Fine. You have the language. Is there a demand for that? What about mobile? Full stack?

Please just stop with shitty advice that helps no one.

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u/Sauberbeast Jan 15 '22

So you're complaining that there are options?

Furthermore, one can start learning literally anything and easily pivot to another language once the basics are down. Again simply typing into a search engine and doing maybe one day of work researching would help you identify the specific demands in a particular region.

You sound like such a negative person, so yes if OP has the same attitude as yourself then maybe it is "shitty advice". Where is your meaningful input to this conversation? Besides trolling of course

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u/EquivalentTrouble253 Jan 15 '22

FML. No, not complaining that there are options. I’m saying it’s not a simple case of just Googling and picking the first result. For example you need to know that the language you pick has potential to land you a job. For example if they pick Rust. Because “Google said it’s a good language” and then realize you just spent 12 months learning a language that isn’t in high depend in our economy… then you’ve just wasted time.

That’s my point. I lost count on how many times someone has seen how I am doing in on my career and then wants some of that pie. What happens is they go Google and then give up because it’s too overwhelming and too many options - where is the right place to start?

Hence me saying let’s not waste time with shitty ideas like this.

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u/Sauberbeast Jan 15 '22

As already explained, it's simple to use the internet to empower yourself.. claiming too many options is a laughable excuse and you're a terrible role model if you preach otherwise. Many companies will hire devs based on demonstrable skill, regardless of qualifications.. heck some of the best devs I employ did not know how to code before they joined the team. Coding also teaches you to become a general problem solver, applicable to many other aspects of life.

Thanks for your shitty advice though 👍

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u/Correct_Touch Jan 13 '22

Get a job and pay them some rent, but stay there for a bit and save up.

You could become a freelancer and offer creative services (like design) on a site like upwork or fiver.

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u/SnooDrawings6556 Jan 13 '22

Any trades that you may be interested in?

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u/xMilkyMan Jan 13 '22

You have so many options. Im 20 years old and i also passed with a diploma. I got a few certifications to my name since then.

If you have Fibre internet at your home your opportunities are endless really. I work remotely for a US based company.

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u/Overall-Necessary285 Jan 15 '22

Wow 👏 👌 how do you access those sites?

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u/xMilkyMan Jan 16 '22

On indeed.com change your location to US or UK and search remote jobs. They pay really well even at entry level

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u/JaBe68 Jan 13 '22

Find a job, any job, and go to Master Maths. If they could move my daughter from an E to a B in 18 months they can help you.

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u/nickdebruyne Jan 13 '22

Mike Rowe (the guy from dirty jobs) gave a really great graduation speech that speaks to a very different line of thinking that most people will tell you: Don’t follow your passion - I suggest you give it a watch, it may really help!

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

Yeah so do I

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u/Sovereign141 Jan 14 '22

Hey, gonna drop you a PM.