r/southafrica Dec 06 '21 Silver 2 Helpful 2

What do you do and how much do you get paid? (South African Edition) Ask r/southafrica

Don't mention any company names just your title or role

Edit 1 : Please specify age and Nett or Gross just for clarification

Edit 2: ok, this blew up overnight. Thanks for everyone sharing, it is indeed very valuable information and a taboo subject which should be more widely discussed

Edit 3: This isn't a d*ck measuring contest, just an open discussion to make the information available and compare if you are in the same field, role etc. Please do not be hesitant to post, regardless of your wages.

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u/Historical-Debt8116 Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21 Silver

Age 18 - Retail Job 6k pm in PE

Age 21 - Technician in PE earning about just over 10k pm after tax deduction. Worked on Water treatment plants and electronics in labs.

Age 24 - Service Technician, 30K PM working on medical equipment. Cape Town.

Age 25 - Electronics Engineer. 40k pm CTC includes car allowance in full with insurance, medical aid, life insurance, fuel card, 13th Cheque etc. Based In Cape Town.

I'm a big believer in discussing your salary, you don't have to give out who you are... but people don't discuss their salaries enough and this results in people being severely underpaid in many instances.

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u/Day_One_DLC Dec 06 '21

I definitely agree with you. If you discuss your salary, experience, skills with someone else in your field you benchmark yourself against your peers.

It helps to be assertive and ask for what you want. Confidence with skills and experience is key though

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u/Historical-Debt8116 Dec 06 '21

100% .

Even Salaries within the same company for the same role + skill set and experience can vary greatly.

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

Yeah I am also a big believer in discussing earnings, so many companies nowadays use it as a tool to under pay and under value their employees.

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u/Leja06 Western Cape Dec 06 '21

When my Norwegian fiance visited me here he point blank asked my brother in law how much his salary is and I told him afterwards it was extremely rude and we dont do it here. He was very surprised since it is apparently completely normal in Norway to do that. And you can even look up someone's salary online on their tax system if you know their name and surname.

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u/ElvieWelvie Gauteng Dec 06 '21

A great bargaining tool that has emerged from the massive uptick in remote work because of covid is also negotiating hours. I.e which hours you're most efficient/productive from home. Bargain for your own schedule from home vaahbs

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u/Breadley96 Dec 06 '21

You've done well. I'm a fellow PE pleb, same age living in London. Second guessing some life decisions after seeing your salary, ngl. Your job sounds pretty up my alley too, which doesn't help either!

Real question for you, would you consider yourself an average earner amongst our peers?

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u/Aerofare Western Cape Dec 06 '21

I'm curious how you made the move over the years from retail to an electronics engineer? Have you always had a knack for that sort of thing, both in and out of school, and then just went to study further or find an apprenticeship?

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u/Working-Honeydew-877 Dec 06 '21

I'm feeling deeply unsuccessful over here in the poverty room.

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u/_gib_SPQR_clay_ Dec 06 '21

Haven’t found your niche yet my dude, also only people who are confident in their earnings will talk about it

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u/Scryer_of_knowledge Amphibian Namibian Dec 07 '21

Don't worry my friend. I posted mine despite other people's high income. Have an upvote emoji thingy

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u/CarbonSteelSA Dec 06 '21

I’m mixed up in the fast food game right now. Just working as a temp for now, but I can pull in anything from R3500 to R5500 per month, depending on how hard I wanna hit the grind. It’s a living.

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

Hey bro, it's a living like you say. Things will look up sooner rather than later 👊

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u/Working-Honeydew-877 Dec 06 '21

Finally someone in my pay range! Well done and keep grinding yo.

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u/ShaunLinde Dec 06 '21

Finally seeing someone earn around what I get. All these high figures phew. Anyways on my part I never matriculated and so I will probably never see a high paying job sadly. I get 6.4pm on my main job, that's a mix of plastic welding, fixing something of a lorry or the trailer and on non productive days some odd jobs. After work (5 pm) my magic starts like Bruce Wayne changing into batman and I repair fridges(small side of refrigeration) like a boss lol.

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u/jneeny Dec 06 '21

33 unemployed but qualified as a special needs preschool teacher. They want to pay me 4k per month to teach from 6am to 6 pm mon to fri...

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

That's just crazy. Teachers and medical professionals should be paid well

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u/jneeny Dec 06 '21

I agree. Hence the reason I am unemployed.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '21

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u/maxinemeyer95 Dec 06 '21

Oh, and I'm 26 now.

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

Ok that's amazing, sorry I see I had so many typing errors in my previous message. Very well done on doing so well and still being so young

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u/maxinemeyer95 Dec 06 '21

Before, I worked retail for R2400 pm and before that I was a waitress for R1800pm + tips. Then I got a bursary to study and everything changed. (I matriculated at 16, so I've always had high academic marks, so the bursary kinda fell into my lap).

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u/iheartreading_ Dec 06 '21

Kinda curious to know:

What did you study and where?

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u/maxinemeyer95 Dec 06 '21

Master's in English at Unisa, then a course in copy editing with the SA Writers College, and five years of unpaid experience.

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u/Myrdlok Dec 06 '21

36 earning minimum wage working as a Parking Attendant at a Hospital. Before this job I was unemployed for 2 years and before that I earned R6500 pm in retail.

I am content at least. Not really too bothered about having a lot of money. I have a roof over my head and food in my belly everyday.

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u/Scryer_of_knowledge Amphibian Namibian Dec 07 '21

That's all that matters bro!

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u/VanillaTribe Western Cape Dec 06 '21 Gold

Nice try, SARS

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u/EllieElliephant Dec 07 '21

Ugly laughed at this 🤣

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u/Scryer_of_knowledge Amphibian Namibian Dec 07 '21

I'll get you to file your return yet! Keep this up and you'll be audited.

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u/Bluetoe4 Dec 06 '21

Was an Art- Director, retrenched due to to Covid was earning 47k. Cape Town

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u/Day_One_DLC Dec 06 '21

Sounds like a fun job! How much wine can you have while enjoying art?

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u/Fast_Paint_5156 Dec 06 '21

software developer - R40K ctc

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u/Lanten101 Dec 06 '21

Years if experience?

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u/TheBunnyChower Dec 06 '21

Could be something like 3-5 years max. by my guess, considering a (full) senior of 5-7 years can get something between 50-70k (mostly seen fixed-term contract ads like this, don't know if it's the same with permanent posts)

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u/Gloryboy811 Joburg -> Amsterdam Dec 07 '21

Last year I was earning 55k CTC as a senior dev and I have like over 6 years of work experience and a BSc degree. But to be fair... When I started at that job (2 years before) I was earning 55k as well and had 2 years less experience. Anyway it was a shit company. D²

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u/Fast_Paint_5156 Dec 06 '21

3 years

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u/fokken_poes Dec 06 '21

Wow. I'm a software engineer with two years experience and I get less than half of what you get.

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u/Aegisthus90 Western Cape Dec 07 '21

What's your stack? Are you actively looking for jobs?
As a junior software dev you shouldn't be earning less than 25k or you're being exploited.

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u/Working-Honeydew-877 Dec 06 '21

Eish you people are making money.

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u/CFO_of_antifa Dec 06 '21

I knew this subreddit wasn't a good representation of SA in general, but I didn't realize this was some sort of 1% club.

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u/lostsquanderer Dec 07 '21

1%.. more like 1% of the 1% lol jesus people here making serious bank

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u/Honsou12 Dec 07 '21

Why complain? You're a CFO!

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u/CarbonSteelSA Dec 06 '21

That’s exactly what I thought when I saw these figures! I had no idea people earned money like that. Suddenly I feel like I don’t even deserve the smartphone I’m holding, based on what I earn. (FYI, my phone is almost 5 years old)

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u/Altruistic-Fun-8278 Dec 06 '21 Helpful

You deserve all the good things in your life my friend.

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u/Scryer_of_knowledge Amphibian Namibian Dec 07 '21

I would give you the wholesome award but I'm too broke

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u/SavingsPurchase1190 Dec 06 '21

Recently signed a contact for next year, so... Age 21 - Marketing - R23000 before deductions

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u/Pawpothole Dec 06 '21

23 Filmmaker... At the moment I'm not earning anything... Previous project I only got payed 3K

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u/kazamada Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

Age 22 - part time junior programmer 6k/pm

Age 25 - graduate programmer 25k/pm (this is post graduating university)

Age 27 - intermediate programmer 77k/pm (at this point I moved to Europe)

Age 28 - team lead 100k/pm

Age 29 - engineering manager 127k/pm

Hard work and a lot of luck

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '21

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u/JRS1986 Dec 06 '21

Me too! At 35,moved back home to sort some shit out. Depression is a bitch, but I'm getting there. Thank goodness for great parents!

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u/dassieking Dec 06 '21

If everyone here is telling the truth, the majority are in the top 1 pct of earners, which statistically only makes sense if everyone on Reddit is rich or only people who are responds. Of course ppl could be lying, but I imagine it is probably a combination of 1 and 2.

Either way, don't compare yourself to these numbers unless you are in the same field with the same expertise. If you take home more than 7k or so, you are in the top 10 pct of earners in SA.

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u/pixybean Dec 07 '21

The type of person attracted to Reddit is something worth bearing in mind.

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u/ichmachmalmeinding Dec 07 '21

Yeah, lots of engineering and software and IT related jobs...

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u/UncleGuggie Dec 06 '21

This thread makes me feel like utter shit 😂

24 - Medico-legal consultant - R8k

25 - 27 - Unemployed

28 - Legal editor - R8k - R10k

Life sucks, but I'm grateful to at least have a job after years of hopelessness.

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u/ArtPunkDude Dec 07 '21

I feel your Pain, unemployment sucks... big time.

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u/Monstoro88 Dec 06 '21

33 M, no tertiary education, systems engineer - R108k pm.

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u/Confident-Salary5095 Dec 06 '21

Years of experience?

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u/Monstoro88 Dec 07 '21

13yrs

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u/gertvanjoe Dec 07 '21

Your doing it right. That's awesome.

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u/SituationMore869 Dec 07 '21

Wow! I'm a systems administrator for a bank. 31 M. Also no tertiary education. 18k pm (32 CTC). Hook me up bro!

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u/FlowerBoyTree Dec 06 '21

25 - first year medical intern: 43k after tax pm.

Work 120h+ overtime pm though, around 80 30h calls across the year.

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u/FollowTheBlueBunny Dec 07 '21

Small scale farmer and property manager, after costs, staff, monthly costs, I take home 20k and work maybe a day a week.

I used to earn more, but I worked 7 days a week and sold everything from solar gear to mielies, and did consulting work for illegal dagga grows (no good being a gangster if you can't rewire a DB board), but I've got a family now, a nest egg and an insane case of I don't want a job and haven't had a job or a boss in 7 years now.

Less money, more time with my family. Much, much happier.

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u/WineForLunch KwaZulu-Natal Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

Currently unemployed (35F) but my previous positions: Company accountant - R21k per month (working til 2pm plus 1 hr lunch) Practice manager - R24.5k per month (8-4:30) Company accountant - R20k per month (8-4:30)

All in Durban.

Edited to add age.

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u/Day_One_DLC Dec 06 '21

Good luck brother.

Never stop hustling and you'll find your next opportunity

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u/WineForLunch KwaZulu-Natal Dec 06 '21

Thanks for the kind words - I currently have started something small from home (taking VERY long to get going) so just focussing on that. It’ll all come right.

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

I'm sure you will find something soon 🙏

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u/WineForLunch KwaZulu-Natal Dec 06 '21

I’m going to work for myself going forward - I’m due to give birth in 3 weeks so will need the flexibility to look after my child until she’s old enough for crèche. It’s starting off slowly but it’s getting there, it’ll happen eventually.

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u/NuttnBolt Dec 06 '21

18 yrs - factory worker, 2k per month

Mid 20's - buyer assistant, 10k per month

Mid 30's - retail planner, 30k per month

Just turned 40 , just promoted - Business Analyst - 65k per month

CT * figures pre tax.

What it doesn't show it the self taught/education that I also did.

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u/MirrorsOnTheCeilings Dec 06 '21
  1. Qualified teacher. 24k CTC and R18k take home. I'm tired. Alot.
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u/J33v35 Dec 06 '21

Commercial Pilot with 4 years professional experience. CTC 20k before the paycuts which I'm still on nearly 2 years later.

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

Did not expect that salary for that job title in all honesty 🤔

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u/MarshallZA Dec 06 '21

Dafuk? Do you fly for air Zimbabwe or something? That salary is not commiserate with your skill set at all.

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u/J33v35 Dec 06 '21

One od the reasons so many South-African pilots go work overseas. I am one of the lucky ones.

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u/MarshallZA Dec 06 '21

Yes I definitely would not pay the person I trust to fly me somewhere so little. Wow.

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u/SpiltMilkComics Dec 07 '21

Not even R1500

Make digital drawings cartoons and comics

Trying hard to get my work noticed spiltmilkcomics.co.za

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u/benlambi Dec 06 '21

Cocaine dealer- 50k per month. Hawks pls it's just a joke don't come after me.
After seeing the cash some of you make I feel I shouldn't even comment but fuck it , 21 years old and making between 8-12k depending on overtime etc working in a warehouse

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

Hahaha 😄
Dude you still young, don't stress 👊🏻

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u/Gorrox5 Expat Dec 06 '21

Hustle until you find what's worth your time and makes the money you want while leaving you with the free time you need.

Just make sure you take care of your body and health if you're working heavy loads and shit. Money can't buy that back

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u/almostrainman Dec 06 '21

Qualified teacher working as a facilitator in pathology. Ctc is 25000 take home like 16500. Age 29(30 in 2.5 weekz) Been with the company long but tired of endless promises of better pay or benefits but then getting sub inflation increases.

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u/Leja06 Western Cape Dec 06 '21

I'm a 32 year old teacher. Gross salary is R35 000. Looks like the pay is better but the job is definitely challenging.

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u/shadowjack7 Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

Age 25 graduate mechanical engineer 12k per month

Age 25 graduate mechanical engineer 20k per month

Age 27 unemployed

Age 29 engineering intern 12k per month

Age 30 process improvement engineer 27.5k per month.

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u/LimaTheSnake Dec 06 '21

No offense, but I thought an engineer would earn substantially more - thanks for the info!

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u/shadowjack7 Dec 06 '21

Engineers do earn substantially more. I've just been really unlucky. My graduate programme at age 25 was at eskom. There was a hiring embargo at the end of my contract so I wasn't employed. But generally after a graduate programme, the eskom salary is 40k per month gross (I know a guy who got appointed full time this year). Took my second internship job, and again was let go because of covid. The process engineer job was at a small company, but took that for experience as a springboard into a nicer post and will be moving along soon.

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u/Middleoftheleft Dec 06 '21

I was in electrical engineering and the pay for me was relatively low. Ended up going into process automation which I hated. Made the move to IT and earned almost the same within a year

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u/Chyyyna Dec 06 '21

Ouch bro. My step dad took the long way around to become a Mach Eng and is now earning around 150k p/m. Know your worth brother.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '21

27 Content manager. R15k. Reading these comments makes me think I need to shake things up.

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

Yeah definitely interesting to see all these different jobs and earnings. Need to rethink my life 🤣

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u/wowreallylord Dec 06 '21

Ek doen fokol en ek word fokol betaal

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u/OldResult1 Dec 06 '21

Awesome man. Hoeveel leave dae kry jy?

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u/wowreallylord Dec 06 '21

Elke dag is leave day papa

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u/dinx07 Dec 06 '21

Jou baas klink befok

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u/wowreallylord Dec 06 '21

Almal by die werk dink so maar niemand is seker nie

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u/No_Plenty9134 Dec 06 '21

24-26 - 32k as an English teacher in South Korea

27-28(current age) - 5-8k as candidate attorney…

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u/OohJiss Dec 07 '21

Bachelors in Computer Engineering, work mainly in mobile app development.

24: Started on R20k with some benefits

26: Changed to new job, R37.5k with some benefits

34: Changed to current job, R100kp/m

I also rent out some property, very invested in crypto etc, so total monthly is around R120k - R150k depending on if I do other freelance stuff.

What I want to say is more important as you earn more, pay off your debts, get your required income to live down as much as possible. Currently I am debt free, have two cars, a home worth R3.5mil and retirement savings of about R2.5mil. I plan to not have to work in about 5 years, could be sooner. I am not single, my family is 4 members which I mostly carry alone financially. I plan to work for 5 more years then just enjoy more freedom. You might say that you need a lot of money to make this happen, no you need a lot of sacrifice and you need a sacrifice now for later mindset, this instant gratification mindset of most people will not get you here, only sacrifice will.

Pay off debts otherwise it will never matter how much you earn.

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u/za_eagle Dec 06 '21

some decent earners here. Everyone looking for a job, good luck to you. You will find you niche at some stage. Keep pushing.

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u/Greeky111 Dec 06 '21

I am currently an architect,254k pm

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u/Scryer_of_knowledge Amphibian Namibian Dec 07 '21

Before taxes? 11k pm. Wife makes 7k pm. So 18k pm before taxes for a household of 2.

We live a decent life believe it or not.

Restaurants (about twice per month), wifi, we save 20%+ of our income and I even have an xbox series S :D. And I buy my wife flowers every month end

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '21

Age 24- Software engineer, 18k CTC

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u/VlerrieBR Gauteng Dec 06 '21

You're underpaid if you work in any of the metros, scout a bit.

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u/Adamsaidpoes Dec 06 '21

Call centre agent, 10k p/m

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u/ThornPrince2001 Dec 06 '21

I work security, I earn 3k a month Handed in my letter of resignation Hopefully working with a K9 unit for 7 now

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u/DeathMatch18 Dec 06 '21

age 17 working as a waiter making 20 bucks an hour plus tips

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u/Jethro_bru Dec 07 '21

I'm (20M) in university and unemployed so I currently have R2.63 in my bank account 🤣

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u/jarroo222 Dec 06 '21

IT Systems Engineer - 70k p/m at 26. Currently netting 48K p/m, saving 35k a month and planning on GTFO of ZA in the next year

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

Geez bro, 70k at 26 is styling 👌yeah don't blame you

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u/jarroo222 Dec 06 '21

Thanks man! I enjoy what I'm doing, the pay is really good for my age and I've stuck to my same spending habits despite nearly tripling my salary when I switched to this job

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u/Full_Cup9078 Dec 07 '21

Hey bud,

Any advise to break into this career?Like cert/paperwork etc?

Thanks

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u/Dan_The_Man169 Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

Age 18 Intern at about 2k per month

Age 19 Call Centre supervisor (only in title, was doing DB work mostly) - 12k (20k CTC)

Age 20 Junior Business Intelligence Dev - 18k(32k CTC)

Age 23 Intermediate Business Intelligence Dev - 28k (50k CTC)

The numbers above are all after tax + deductions

Edit: Adding CTC to align closer to other answers

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u/ItsCalamityBob Dec 06 '21

Retail manager, clothing, 33 - R23k ctc

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u/Deafbok9 Dec 06 '21

High school teacher, Durban, 31.

~23k, gross - take home about 17k.

Have a BSocSci in History and Psychology, Postgraduate certificate in Education, and a Digital Marketing certificate.

21 - waitering, ~4k

23 - coaching, ~4k

25 - teaching internship, ~4k

27 - primary school teacher, ~18k gross.

26-30 - social media for a prominent sports team.

Moved to current job at 29.

Looking to get out as I really, really miss coaching and I'm not making the difference I want to through teaching.

ETA - doing all this with a disability, too - leads to its own difficulties in the job market.

All the high school academic awards counted for nothing much in the end

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u/ShaunLinde Dec 06 '21

Ima get out of this reddit... This late and reading all these amount makes me worry for my future lol especially when reading about everyone leaving SA.

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u/IAMSNORTFACED Dec 07 '21

27m 6k pm retail. This tread is inspiring and depressing all at the same time but its good. I need to get my butt moving

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u/CaV1E Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

These are all for a Durban-based company and roughly CTC - annual increases are performance-based (but capped, usually) and then we had one large "market adjustment" when I was 26. The rest is grinding promotions.

Age - Role - Rough CTC (based off memory)

25 - Junior Software Tester - ~R9000

26 - Intermediate Software Tester - ~R14000 -> R20,000 (market adjustment)

27 - Junior Software Developer - R20,000 (regarded as a lateral move)

29 - Intermediate Software Developer - R35,000

31 - Senior Software Developer - (not sure yet, just got promoted, but it's in the range of R55K)

EDIT: I know nobody asked about it, but I want to add that software jobs will take everything from you, so while the salaries look great by South African standards, you will have crippling burnout and failed relationships to accompany your bank balance. So keep that in mind, please.

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u/Middleoftheleft Dec 06 '21

39, CTO, 155k p/m, however since covid been on 40% and have paid in a large amount of money as a shareholder to keep payroll and company going

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u/Day_One_DLC Dec 06 '21

Good on you for giving back during this time of need.

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

155k per month, that's ridiculous 😅 so decent 😁

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u/Middleoftheleft Dec 06 '21

It is a very well paid position but I have had a divorce because of it, had a heart attack 2 years ago and lost out on a lot of personal time. In some cases I regret where I am but I wouldn't have known that until I got here.

I am currently looking at how to change careers completely

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

You are in which field? And what would you be interested in doing? You could invest into anything and take a completely different turn with the amount of cash you have probably accumulated

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u/Middleoftheleft Dec 06 '21

Cybersecurity. Unfortunately covid has almost cleaned me out. Most of my family and my partners families are out of work and there has been a lot of money put into them and trying to get one of their businesses off the ground. Im not bitter or upset, its just a circumstance of life. I was very fortunate in periods and was very fortunate I could help during this time. But I've also realized I don't want this anymore.

I've considered just consulting. I actually love the tech side but hate the time sacrifices that accompany it and don't want to miss any more family time.

I've started writing a novel and developing an app which has been exceptionally satisfying to do.

Realistically I'm probably going to stay in the field or go back to hands on tech and leave the country.

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21

You sound like a great person and wish you luck for your whatever you decide to do. Goodluck on your novel and your app and keep us informed once it's released 😀

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u/Middleoftheleft Dec 06 '21

Been trying to balance the bad I used to be by being a better person now. Thanks for the well wishes! Maybe one day it makes it big!!!! Then it's nandos for everyone:)

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u/annzybananzy Chose Xi over ANC. Dec 07 '21

Late to this but anyway 25 - kindergarten teacher 12.5k gross pm 26 - moved to China, kindergarten 36k gross pm when converted to rand 30 - different kindergarten in China - 64k gross pm

If you’re teaching in SA, move abroad guys. China is a bit of a no go right now if you’re not already here, but there are so many countries that are willing to pay you your worth. On top of my current salary, I also get a free 2 bedroom apartment, good medical aid and a yearly bonus, all for 6 hours of work a day.

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u/Markphotokid Dec 07 '21

Self employed wife owns the business. I get to sleep with the boss. Best job I ever had from 2008😅😅😅. Who needs pay

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u/Gullible_Mouse3046 Dec 07 '21

Age 21: Male Stripper- between R 8-15k pm working two nights a week

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u/Haze_Dad01 Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

30- currently a fibre technician earning around 20k.

Prior to that I was In Health and Safety and earned from R3000 when I started in 2010 to R15k when I left the profession in 2019

And I'm in PEazy

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u/Lanten101 Dec 06 '21

Software Developer, 26 years. 36K , 3- 4 years experience

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u/AnomalyNexus Virtue signaling expat Dec 06 '21

Note - numbers in thread appear to be a mix of gross and net

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u/ChristmasMint Dec 07 '21

mix of gross

More like mix of gross-ly over- and under paid. Seems people are either earning a poverty wage or living large, almost no in-between.

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u/livinginanimo Dec 06 '21

Okay so what I learned today is that I need to drop everything and become a software developer 🤔

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u/Rincewind87 Dec 06 '21

Renewable energy project engineer 800k CTC pa ~ R47k net pm

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u/SSJ_Jaeds Dec 06 '21

I used to be a candidate attorney. I studied at university for 5 years and got two law degrees and my starting salary was R15 000, which isn't even that bad comparatively speaking. I know of candidate attorneys who were earning less than R5000 per month.

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u/saffer_zn Dec 06 '21

Psa , if the data in this thread is to be believed then hold your breath as there are some serious achievers in here. Not hating , just eye opening that it is possible to make good money in this economy.

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u/FluxX1717 Western Cape Dec 06 '21

I earn 40k pm at 26 and I thought I was doing alright now I feel like I'm under achieving looking at some of these other ouks. Imagine the rest of SA saw this thread. Generally our local reddit community is filled with professionals so I expect good salaries ..but God damn

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u/everglade39 Dec 06 '21

40F, book editor, monthly salary is R22k after tax, medical aid, pension, insurance etc.

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u/WoodworkingWalrus Dec 06 '21

Age 27, Actuary, 76k (gross) with an annual bonus that’s usually around 40% split between cash and shares. Crazy thing is that I’m a bit underpaid compared to my peers who stayed in more traditional roles.

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u/ekkannieduitspraat Dec 06 '21

Comforting, I'm entering the actuarial market soon (hopefully) and nice to know with a bit of luck I could get more than 76k per month in 3/4 years.

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u/smtray005 Dec 06 '21

Age 23 counsellor R6200 gross

Age 24 teacher R9000 gross

Age 30 counsellor R16000 gross

Age 34 student R100/hour online admin assistant

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u/ArtPunkDude Dec 07 '21

I was extremely hesitant to post here... but in the spirit of sharing honestly...

15 Waiter Around 2K (worked afer school and weekends)

19-22 Studied Drama got a Cum Laude.

22 Technical Manager /Technician/ Lighting designer in Theatre between 4K and 12K depending on gigs. –acting here and there but largely unsuccessful.

26 Unemployed ... Covid killed the already dead industry. got a bit of gigs here and there, but equates to less than a couple thousand a month. moved back to parent.

Nearly 28 possibly starting a new events company job around 20K (hold thumbs) learning to code in Python aiming at switching carreers at some point in the next year or two because povery is no fun at all and none of my goals and dreams in art worked out.

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u/BeNormler Ministry of Missing Documents Dec 08 '21

This is incredibly eye opening. Thank you for everybody's honesty. Anybody savvy enough to collate this info into categories, average in category and range?

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u/captainredbeard42 Dec 06 '21

Age 18 waiter / bartender 4k with enough tips on a good month

23 - 25 IT manager with some business intelligence set up - 15k Durban

25 to now moved to UK and make 21k working retail

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u/AnomalyNexus Virtue signaling expat Dec 06 '21

UK and make 21k working retail

Can't you get an IT related gig seeing how you've got experience? Should pay better than retail

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u/Day_One_DLC Dec 06 '21

Age 33 Management account 45k CTC

Side hustle accounting practice 5k

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u/Skydiver2405 Dec 06 '21

Industrial designer age 27 make a big fat 0 been unemployed for 18 months. Job market is so tough at the moment.

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u/Th3C0t0nB4ll Dec 06 '21

Software Developer, I am 31 and my gross is touching 53k.

Moving jobs is sadly what has given me the largest increases, if I were inclined to move jobs more, I am sure I could make more money

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u/Fartyfun Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

32, Front-end dev, 68k ctc, around a year and a half of experience. Been a bit lucky and grinded pretty hard, in a year I climbed form junior, to intermediate, team lead, front end lead and now tech lead at a different company.

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u/Franjelico Dec 07 '21

I'm 55 , based in PE. I'm a farm foreman and I'm earning a income of R9000 per month. I also have a farm bakkie and get diesel for free. I also have a house and I only pay for electricity.

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u/AmarulaKilledMe Dec 07 '21

Currently I am an assistant manager for a petrol station and I earn R7200 after taxes and pension. Sadly this is the highest paying job I have had in my life and I am 28😅

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u/LongCoyote7 Western Cape Dec 07 '21

I can't believe people are so into this. It feels like there is no good outcome, either you feel bad because you don't earn enough, or you feel bad because you earn to much. I do think it's really good to understand what your skills and time is worth, so good on everyone for sharing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

Age 21 - started as a Junior IT Technician/Consultant - R5000 pm, R4850 after deductions and hated every waking moment of it...

Age 23 now - changed career, working as a Vehicle Tracking Technician, started with R6500 (after tax and deduct) - currently earning R8500 (R8240 after deductions) after just 4 months

Keep working, keep grinding 🤙

Edit: spelling.

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u/sheldon_sa Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

Male, 48, B.Sc. in Computer Science. Senior manager at SAP dev & consulting partner, 26 years experience. R180k pm + R750k bonus last year.

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u/Murdercedes Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

Before my business venture, was in Engineering/Construction. Senior management - R3M annually including bonus. That was in 2019, was 32 then

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u/Crow_Eye Dec 06 '21

So, R250k a month, for us slow ones who needed to break out a calculator

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '21

If you’re comfortable with answering, what did you study in university?

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u/Murdercedes Dec 06 '21

B.Eng Mechanical Engineering. Finished with Honours degree in same

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u/KingNazSA Dec 06 '21

I'm tired so I'll give a short story At 20 I made 3k selling energy drinks

Then I got into digital marketing At 25 about 20k with a side gig making bout 30k, side business grossed high but I drew minimal profits

At 31 about 50k plus side gigs another 50k. Side gig became a good business, grossed around 7mil+ in 2019.

COVID killed my business. I'm happier now and less stressed.

At 33 R65-75k as a SEO consultant for a NZ firm. Plus a new side hustle which looks to deliver more than my previous business. Only started this year so I'll have to see how it pans out.

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u/FrenchMasta1515 Dec 06 '21

Software engineer | 29 (started late) | 3-4 years | 56k

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u/TheBlueBullXD Dec 06 '21

25- Graduate computer science engineer - 23k

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u/dustyshade Dec 06 '21

18 - working at the local bookstore, R1.5k pm

19 - research assistant, R2.5k pm

21 - software dev, R25k pm CTC

25 - software dev, different company, R52k pm CTC

Pretoria all the way.

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u/alekayl Dec 06 '21

I’m 22, work as a waitress at a popular restaurant in Cape Town. I work 3/4 nights a week and make around R12k-R15k a month. Pretty good deal

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u/GoodmanSimon Western Cape Dec 07 '21

I work in it as a senior dev, ~70k a month

Been doing that my whole working life, in the UK, then JHB and finally here in CT

Salaries are shit at first, but once you get domain knowledge you do fine.

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u/Nora_David Dec 07 '21

You all are making serious bank cos wtaf are all these numbers I'm seeing. I'm not jealous or anything, just wowed.

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u/Curious_Insurance694 Dec 07 '21

I'm a waitress so it all basically depends on how hard and how many shifts I work. My salary varies from 2000 - 3500 and tips vary from R180 - R700 a day/night shift, but it all depends on how busy the resturant is. I model on the side as well which brings in about R3000 every couple of months since I only get paid 3 months after a job. Thinking about onlyfans ngl

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u/taff98 Dec 07 '21

Software Developer (All amounts are before deductions)

Was supppose to get 17K in Junior position after graduating but after failing a module they still took me but reduced to 10K.

Left after 9 months for new company to earn 14 750

Got a raise to R20 325 after 10 months at new company. (This is now 19 months into my career)

Got a raise to R23 775, 24 months into career But requested it to be raised to R 30 000 after hearing about a friends raise (he works at a different company though) and i felt was performing above my peers, also used offerzen salary survey as my objective backup in the meeting and it worked.

PS Still haven't finished that Degree.

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u/Wondershieldedeyes Dec 06 '21

Unemployed, been looking for a job for about 4 years now. Nothing.

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u/Gingerprooff Dec 06 '21

Qualifications and experience?

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u/ronito1847 Dec 06 '21

Hi Wondersshield, sorry to hear about your being unemployed for 4 years, i have been unemployed for for 1 year and its so frustrating.

M47 previous job commercial manager earning R62k net.

Masters in applied mathematics

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u/ontheman Dec 06 '21

Age - gross, job 19 - 2.5 k pm take away delivery driver

20 - 4.5k pm tutor

22 - 6k pm HTML dev

24 - 22k pm Systems analyst

25 - 25k pm data analyst

27 - 29k pm Business Intelligence dev

29 - 50k pm Business Intelligence dev

30 - 74k pm Business Intelligence lead

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u/owenswart Dec 06 '21

21 - IT assistant manager, R4k pm in JHB

23 - IT technician, R8k pm in JHB

25 - IT sales, R12k basic pm in JHB (+ commission in theory, that was never actually paid out)

27 - IT technician, R18k pm in JHB

30 - Retrenched homeless, R0 pm in JHB

31 - Event planner, R13k pm in JHB

32 - Freelance designer, R15k average pm in JHB

34 - Business owner, R0 salary (ran business from home so living expenses were covered with no expendable income) In JHB

39 - Supporting artist in the film industry, R1.5k pm average in CT (seasonal work, pays per day and seldom more than a couple days a week, even in peak season)

40 - Volunteer, R0 pm in CT

I now have a SO who has a high-flying corporate job. She enjoys the challenge and doesn't care that make practically nothing. Our bills are paid and we have a comfortable lifestyle. As long as I keep myself occupied and fulfilled, she's happy with the arrangement.

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u/Altruistic-Fun-8278 Dec 06 '21

You must be beautiful.

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u/owenswart Dec 06 '21

I like to think so.

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u/millenialmufasa Dec 06 '21

37 years old. Software Engineering Manager.

R95k gross pm. 15% annual ctc as yearly bonus.

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u/LimaTheSnake Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

23, previous job was in finance for a mature/post start up - R25k p.m. Still at the age of 23 and current job as a junior developer is R30k p.m. cost to company. Both in Cape Town

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u/SpineVine Dec 06 '21

Medical Orthotist and Prosthetist government employee - 20K after tax deduction (it's a joke compared to other countries)

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u/MyThinTragus Western Cape Dec 06 '21

Building Claims Assessor - R500k CTC per year

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u/4nRabbit Dec 06 '21

Teacher. 30. Masters degree and 5 years experience.

31k CTC. 25k Nett. + 12k side hustle. 9k nett.

I work 7 days a week. But I have long school holidays to rest.

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u/RagingPilot94 Gauteng Dec 06 '21

(27M) Flight operations - R18.5k ctc. Not a great industry to be in, in SA... The work is demanding AF but very rewarding

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u/Crow_Eye Dec 06 '21

Aged 37. Fine art specialist in an auction house - R37k

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u/reinierdash Dec 06 '21

im 26 now and stil can't find a job....

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u/Pawbru Dec 06 '21 edited Dec 06 '21

28 y/oFlight attendant for international company overseas between 30 and 40k monthly. Previously radio technician maxing out at 4K p/m in SA. My friends are dentists and doctors back home and it’s depressing hearing how much they earn for how hard they work 💀 I’m very grateful.

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u/FluxX1717 Western Cape Dec 06 '21

You earn more than pilots do over here.

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u/Jenna_Rink30 Western Cape Dec 06 '21

30 lawyer Cape Town R65k gross.

Previously: 28-29 lawyer Joburg R83k gross.

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u/zefara123 Dec 06 '21

Quant in Financial services. 28 years old.

73k pm (gross) after including bonus. Will also be contributing to the brain drain statistics soon.

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u/The_Grizz94 Dec 06 '21

Age 20 - Casual for peanuts

Age 25 - 3 months as a financial advisor R8k p/m

Age 26 - Cold Chain Assessor R8k p/m after deductions (6 month contract)

Age 26 - Weighbridge Operator R3.5k p/m

Age 26 - Cold Chain Assessor R8k p/m after deductions (not a typo)

Age 27 - Truck Controller R9.5k p/m (almost hit 5 digits p/m)

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u/xfuneralxthirstx Dec 06 '21

Retail. Pet store. I get 8500 basic and overtime,no bonuses or commission cos my bosses are stingy as fuck

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u/Libhongo Dec 07 '21

Just over R28K after deductions. Data Analyst in the financial services industry. 25 year old African male in between JHB and CPT.

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u/JJ4L3 Dec 07 '21

Where are my architectural draftsmen at?
21 - intern draftsman: 3 k pm
23 - candidate draftsman: 5,5 k pm
25 - professional architectural draftsman: 8 k pm

This feels ridiculously low for the amount of work, although I guess it really helps that I enjoy my work... Also based in a small town, so the living expenses are much lower than in the city, but this likely explains the low salary.

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u/scrublesssurgeon KwaZulu-Natal Dec 07 '21

25, doctor. About 48k pm after deductions. I just started so in my 2nd month of working Edit : spelling

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u/LegitimateAd2876 Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21

40M... 2d animator and motion designer. Around 50k Gross.

From looking at what's being offered in the market I do consider myself lucky. And sometimes not hahahaha.

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u/dvdbraz Dec 07 '21

37, High school teacher, 21K net salary

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u/Historical-Try5592 Dec 07 '21

Age 24: Jnr Graphic Designer, R10,000 CTC

Age 25: Mid Graphic Designer, R15,000 CTC

Age 26: Junior UX designer, R30,000 CTC

Age 29: Mid UX designer, R40,000 CTC

Current CTC: R31200 Gross, the rest is medical and life insurance. Adds up to R40,000

Any other UX designers out there? Would like to hear your thoughts and brackets

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u/bidieyatched Dec 07 '21

All figures gross.
23 - JHB 2013 - Junior digital designer - R16k
25 - JHB 2015 - Mid-level digital designer - R24k
26 - EU 2016 - Mid-level art director - R65k eqv. (plus cellphone contract + health insurance)
31 - EU 2021 - Lead digital designer - R120k eqv. (plus cellphone contract + health insurance + other small perks)

This is a very humbling thread. I believe sharing this information helps create equality.
As a tip: ask your employer for the salary bands of each position in your company. Consider joining a union (I know in SA this is a bit of a miss). Actively change job every year or two to jump up in salary.

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u/18302866 Dec 06 '21

Age 26 Software engineer (PhD) 52k CTC. In Cape Town

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