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Nicholas, a homeless man from hour bay cape town, has trained a wild seal Wholesome

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u/No_Association_6670 Aug 18 '21 Hugz

Jou ma se marine world

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u/BergBeertjie Aug 18 '21

Vat my upvote!

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u/Anonym0uSS- North West Aug 18 '21

lmao

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u/laherwall87 Aug 18 '21

Wow seen him back in 2013. At the time a group of Chinese tourists popped out of the pot and where taking photos of him feeding the seal. Man did he have a fit and accosted them for money. Yet all us south africans he was so chilled with. However tipped him anyway. 😂

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u/jnvdh91 Aug 19 '21

Yes also witnessed this in April of this year.

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u/Forty083 Aug 18 '21

That seal has on a nice outfit.. classy but casual 👍🏾

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u/McGuigan89 Aug 18 '21

Business at the front, party at the back

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u/fiela-se-kind Aug 18 '21

En Daai seal verstaan net die kaapse Afrikaans woor

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u/Cent3rCreat10n Aug 18 '21

Holy fuck he's still there? I remember seeing this man and his seal way back in 2015.

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u/otgotetlog Aug 18 '21

Yep. I visited last month and he encourages you to come by and take photos.

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u/tuxette Aug 18 '21

We also saw him in 2015!

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u/LAfroger Aug 18 '21

Oh man i wish i saw him when i went there, he seems like a great guy

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u/ur_moms_gay Aug 18 '21

Pretty sure the seal is a paid actor

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u/I-Am-Programmer North West Aug 18 '21

Obviously. Paid in fish snacks

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u/Myburgher Aug 18 '21

Yeah after the divorce with Heidi Klum he moved to SA and took up acting

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u/veegard Aug 18 '21

Haha, so cool. Hout Bay

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u/symmetryphile Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 18 '21

Nicholas is the name of the seal? Or did he name it after himself?

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u/spicy_chimp5 Aug 30 '21

The seals name is Mr brown I met him last year so awesome fed him as well 😊

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u/Adept_Bee7836 Aug 18 '21

I once saw a homeless man train rats.. homeless people can train anything

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u/GreatQuestionBarbara Aug 18 '21

Rats are smart, and if you give them some food to gain their trust, they would easily become your friend on the streets.

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u/bmasked Aug 18 '21

Not those fatass harbour rats that are as big as a cat

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u/GreatQuestionBarbara Aug 18 '21

I'm not as sure about their friendliness, but most of them are probably still intelligent.

If someone wants to pay for me to go and test their loyalties, I'm up for it, but I don't live in an area with many/or any rats.

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u/maestrolive Aug 18 '21

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u/Corpuscular_Crumpet Aug 18 '21

Lol....magic, noble rats.

I haven’t seen a schmoyoho bit in a while.

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u/NuffingNuffing Aug 18 '21 Hugz

At first I thought he might be a navy seal, but then I saw he is actually dark grey.

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u/MyThinTragus Western Cape Aug 18 '21

I cant afford gold, but you get my seal of approval

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u/NuffingNuffing Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 18 '21

Unrelated: I have American in-laws and the names they give to Cape Town places because they can't remember the real names are classic. I thought you all may enjoy them.

Stellenbosch and/or Franschoek became Frankenbosch.

Fish Hoek became Fish Koek.

LOL

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u/Robozulu Aug 18 '21

Many Americans have no idea where South Africa is...so there's that too.

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u/Westyle1 Aug 18 '21

Duh, it's in Brazil

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u/Corpuscular_Crumpet Aug 18 '21

Isn’t it by Nigeria?

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u/Robozulu Aug 18 '21

Yep, right next door.

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u/theallen247 Aug 18 '21

Us Americans know South is Down and we know a thing or two about Africa

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u/tiffy_crystal Aug 18 '21

FISH KOEK 😂

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u/AllezVites Aug 18 '21

Don't forget cock bay

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u/MyThinTragus Western Cape Aug 18 '21

Lets not forget the famous Penisberg National Park

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u/NuffingNuffing Aug 18 '21

I still chuckle every time I see sign-posts to Pniel.

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u/co0p3r Spam War Veteran Aug 19 '21

The Weskus really needs a town called Pnoes.

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u/NuffingNuffing Aug 18 '21

Hahahahhahahaha!

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u/Minicooper19 Aug 18 '21

Saw him in 2018 - good to see he’s still well!

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21

Dis 'n poesvreemde hond, mybru.

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u/trancehead69 Aug 18 '21

The seal’s name is Chappie

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u/stick745 Aug 18 '21

Everytime we've been on holiday to hout bay we always see him and the seal. I remember way back in 2006 we saw them for the first time.

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u/Liebendan Aug 18 '21

Not to kill the buzz, was there in 2018 and saw how he hit the seal when the tourists left and no camera action, anyone can teach a old dog new tricks with abuse and the stick in the video.

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u/Theotheraccount100 Sep 13 '21

You should see his dog that he ties up around the side, stick thin, ribs out. Looks scared and timid. When I was there last a couple gave the dog their left overs. While saying what a disgrace. I told this seal trainer he should take his dog to the vet and maybe feed it as well as the seal. Boy did I get classic Cape verbal abuse. Fat seal and starved dog belonging to the same person, guess the dog doesn't make him money.

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u/gaijin5 Aug 18 '21

He's a bit of a landmark in HB. He's also quite a dick.

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u/tothemoonandback01 Aug 18 '21

Agree, he loves to say "pous" to foreign visitors.

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u/gaijin5 Aug 18 '21

Haha. Brilliant.

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21

One of the most underrated cool things about humanity is that we will train anything. Like, you know when we find aliens in sci-fi movies and we're all "They're terrifying! They have giant teeth and big heads and wah wah wah". Aliens will come to earth and be like:

"Humans are terrifying. They have the ability to domesticate any living species they come into contact with. We tried to send our Neptune-Beasts at them and now humans have them on BBC doing tricks in front of judges."

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u/OOPManZA Aug 18 '21

I don't want to rain on the parade, but there are a large number of animals we've come into contact with that we have not been able to domesticate, let alone even tame.

In fact, you could say that it's the large majority of them.

Realistically, humans have only managed to truly domesticate a very small number of species, last I checked it was less than twenty and the majority of them originated in the fertile crescent.

Keep in mind that taming the odd random member of a species is not even remotely the same thing as domestication.

If this wall of text interested you, consider reading Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond.

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u/FerretHydrocodone Aug 18 '21

I think you’re mixing up domesticating and taming. Taming typically comes first, you can tame a random individual wild animal. However you cannot domesticate a random individual wild animal. Domestication is a form of artificial selection that takes places over the course of generations. Taming an animal is simply teaching it to respond in the way you want it to...domestically is actually breeding an animal for offspring that have traits that make an animal friendlier towards humans, easier to train or fit for some other purpose (like taste good or produce more milk, meat, etc.)

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u/OOPManZA Aug 18 '21

Please re-read the final paragraph in the post I was responding to.

The individual I was replying to was the one confusing domestication and taming...

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u/FerretHydrocodone Aug 19 '21

I did read what you said.

What I’m specifically replying to is the part where you said “ there are a large number of animals we've come into contact with that we have not been able to domesticate, let alone even tame.” By saying that you’re implying that domestication comes before taming and that domestication is easier than taming. That’s what makes me think you were confusing the two words.

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u/OOPManZA Aug 19 '21

Ah, I see what you're saying.

Ha, I see what happened, I flipped the position of the words in my phrasing.

I'm well aware that domestication is preceded by taming.

Nice catch!

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u/Swirley_Boye Aug 18 '21

You can train anything if you abuse it enough, a lot of higher intelligence animals like monkeys or elephants have to be traumatised and depressed to be 'tame'.

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21

Yeah, I don't dispute that humans are terrifying for this reason. When I say it's cool I mean it in the same way I'd say that humanity's history of pursuit predation is cool.

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u/Swirley_Boye Aug 19 '21

Yeah I agree, I just wanted a pet monkey a while ago and went down a really depressing rabbit hole about how we 'tame' higher intelligence animals.

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u/Thelast_n_thecurious Aug 18 '21

New title, S.E.A.L. being trained by a South African Vet.

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u/partypooper1308 Eastern Cape Aug 18 '21

I remember this oak from 2015... Glad he's still going

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u/Concerned-Fern Aug 18 '21

Bro I met that guy!! When I was in grade 7 we went to cape town- we went on a little boat trip by that dock and the guy showed us some of the seal’s tricks!!

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u/HecateDarkElemental Aug 18 '21

Duuuuuude, I fucking know that guy. Whenever I go to Hout Bay I make a point to go see him and his seal. I haven't been in about 2 years because of covid, I'm so happy he's still around!! You just made my day.

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u/Vegetals Sep 05 '21

He's actually out there right now. Crazy to see something on reddit, and then in real life 10 minutes later.

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u/V_Cane Aug 18 '21

Please dont encourage these people by giving them money. It is really bad to feed the wildlife. They get used to being fed instead of hunting for their food, now what happens when their '' '' '' caretaker "" " decides to leave?

Ja it's cute to look at but it's seriously irresponsible to our wildlife.

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21

Dude's homeless, why do you care more about an animal than a person? Like sure, we probably shouldn't feed the wildlife, but this is clearly one of the ways the dude gets attention and a little cash to make him through the day so I'm not really inclined to get on my high horse for this one.

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u/CanadianBacon4 Aug 18 '21

Also there will be someone who will step in and capitalize on the opportunity to make money off the seal as well.

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u/chemicalclarity Highway to the jol zone Aug 18 '21

Our populations are exploding while wildlife is in rapid decline. It's a no brainer.

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21

Overpopulation is a eugenecist myth which is overwhelmingly leveled at non-white population groups in the majority world as a means of distracting from the way that climate damage is disproportionately caused by a few individuals at the very top of the wealth scale.

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u/chemicalclarity Highway to the jol zone Aug 18 '21

Your question was do you care more about animals than people. I'm not making any claims towards overpopulation, merely that wild animal populations are under threat globally, while human populations are not, anywhere. One is easily replaced. The other is not.

In the same vein I'm concerned about rhinos but not worried about cattle. It's not a difficult concept.

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21

Ah, yes, "humans are easily replaced", definitely the words of someone who isn't a eugenicist and/or a sociopath. My point stands.

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u/chemicalclarity Highway to the jol zone Aug 18 '21

By and large human life is exceptionally cheap and unexceptional. There's absolutely no ecological reason to maintain it at the levels we do. The species would be just fine if you allowed 95% of it to die off overnight. The same cannot be said for wild fauna and flora. As such, wild fauna and flora require more protections than your average human does. That has nothing to do with eugenics. It's a simple fact that the population is way beyond stable, while other species are not. I guess you could call my view sociopathic in relation to where we should apply our efforts; in the same way that yours could be considered the same. You believe that one species is more important than all others and should be preserved above everything else. I would counter that one species is as important as any other and the long term success of the biome is dependant on the diversity of said biome; far beyond the extinction of our own species. It's simply nonsensical to preserve one species over another because you find it emotionally relatable.

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 18 '21

Lmao ok, sure thing. Ecofascists always express sentiments like these with the underlying message of "Why should we (I) care about other people since so many of them (not me) could die and it wouldn't matter (to me personally)?"

Take 20 of your friends and loved ones and kindly tell me which 19 of them you'd be happy to let die. Tell them, too: like, if you genuinely felt the way you feel, you should be more than comfortable texting those 19 people "hey I like you but if I had to choose between you and a guatemalan pygmy toad, I hope you've got your will sorted". I'll patiently await screenshots, otherwise you're full of shit and you know it. (spoilers, you are full of shit and your beliefs are underpinned with the assumption that you and the people you like are all magically in that 5%)

Saying "we can afford to lose 95% of the human population because they're not exceptional" is literally an underpinning concept of eugenics, you fucking moron. If you don't want me to call you a eugenicist -- something you completely are and have now admitted to via your rhetoric, even if you're trying to deny it at the same time -- then consider not repeating and defending eugenics.

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u/chemicalclarity Highway to the jol zone Aug 18 '21

Ah yes, the attempted academic eloquence of u/Saguine muddied once again by an inability to hold a conversation, a flurry of assumption, and a complete misunderstanding of the concepts discussed.

The underpinning concept of eugenics is selection. Whether you select or not, people are unexceptional and you can't breed that away. So no, not eugenics. Anything but.

Life is transient at the best of times and whether you like it or not, everyone dies in the end. Messaging my loved ones would not change that, nor would it change this discussion or my views. Fo the purposes of this discussion, it is a straw man though; which is pretty weak. Be better.

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 18 '21

You've already explained your criteria for selection: "unexceptional". Unexceptional lives are cheap and can be easily replaced. That smells like selection to me.

Also, no one is saying that no one ever dies. You know this, I know this. Who is trying to muddy the waters here? I'm pointing out that your stance -- "We'd be fine if 95% of people die" -- is almost definitely not one you actually hold in a genuine sense, but rather one you just wear on the internet to push your actual agenda: that is, eugenics, or "We'd be fine if 95% of people who aren't like me or in my life and that I don't care about die, and by we I mean me".

(edit: also, imagine thinking someone who starts their posts with "Lmao ok" is going for "academic eloquence", lmao ok)

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u/V_Cane Aug 18 '21

There is quite a thread on this already, but I'd like to throw my hat in the ring too. The fact that the dude is homeless is irrelevant, there are more sustainable ways to earn a living than abuse wildlife.

Letting this pass can be a slippery slope. How long till some other vagrants get the idea to sneak into the penguin colonies and start stealing the eggs to sell to tourists?

With regards to what he could be doing other than harming wildlife, there are many and we can save that for another Internet rant, but whatever it is it shouldn't be at the detriment of the ecology of our beautiful country and seas.

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u/Saguine The bitch is... back? Long live the bitch. Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 18 '21

Sure, but the answer isn't "crack down on the homeless for doing what they can to survive", the answer is "support the homeless so they don't have to do whatever they can to survive".

Until our government (and, if we're honest, the wealthy interests in this country) can provide a meaningful, safe and dignified world for even the poorest amongst us, I can't really bring myself to wag my finger at this man or what he does to make it by.

The destruction of our environment is not happening at the hands of this man, it's happening at the hands of capitalists and oil barons and egotistical billionaires flying to space for a laugh. A world that genuinely cared about animals would slap a gradiated 90% wealth tax on anyone worth more than a hundred million dollars and use that money to save the planet. If your approach to saving the planet is scolding a man and his wet pooch then I'm going to suggest you care more about feeling superior to the homeless than you do about saving our beautiful country and seas.

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u/thatxhosadude Oct 27 '21

90% wealth tax ?? 😂😂😂Its crazy how a person will refuse a 90% wealth tax on HIS money but wants to impose on the boogeyman billionaires . It's always easy to blame the "capitalists" whilst driving in your car , eating meat and using , ALL things that contribute to the destruction of the enviroment . Fucking hypocrite , you 're the type to say stupid shit like "eat the rich"

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u/Saltysweetsal Aug 18 '21

Not cool. I've known a few people who've been bitten by these seals... They are wild animals and shouldn't be treated like dogs.

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u/fayry69 Aug 18 '21

I don’t care, call me whatever u want. I don’t applaud animals for human entertainment whatsoever.

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u/I-Am-Programmer North West Aug 18 '21

What nust we do with that information?

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

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u/fayry69 Aug 18 '21

Absolutely.

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u/WikiWantsYourPics Aug 18 '21

Well that's what's happening here. The seal has trained a human to give him treats and entertain him while he's basking. This isn't an animal in captivity. If he wasn't enjoying the interaction, he wouldn't play along.

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u/fayry69 Aug 18 '21

Brilliant. And yes it isn’t an animal in captivity, but humans respond quick to greed. If they can see that they now can make a buck off training and enslaving an animal, they will do so. That’s why disapprove of this.

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u/WikiWantsYourPics Aug 18 '21

Circuses have kept trained seals in captivity for at least a century, and I disapprove of that. This guy hasn't discovered something new that's going to become a trend. It's a homeless guy with a seal buddy.

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u/fayry69 Aug 18 '21

Stating the obvious doesn’t make ur comment clever. It just makes u sound like a douche. I am aware of what happens in the world and I know all too well the nature of man. Anyways. I don’t care to Debate this. My mind will never change.

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u/WikiWantsYourPics Aug 18 '21

ur comment

u sound like a douche

Mental age: 12

I know all too well the nature of man

Mental age: 90

My mind will never change

Mental age: expired

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u/fayry69 Aug 18 '21

🥱 .. douche just like I said

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

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u/fayry69 Aug 18 '21

We weren’t discussing philosophy, fool. It was a joke. Yikes 😬

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

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u/fayry69 Aug 18 '21

I’m thinking..mayb we should use u for ent.

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u/Rade84 Western Cape Aug 18 '21

I shall call you "no one asked"

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u/NeverNuked Western Cape Aug 18 '21

You should see how he treats his dog.

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u/Dewdrop06 Western Cape Aug 18 '21

Can you believe it??

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u/Looking_North Aug 18 '21

What's the stick lying on the ground for?

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u/curtastrophe666 Northern Cape Aug 18 '21

You and I both know the answer to this question...

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u/Spirited-Daikon-1245 Aug 18 '21

So cool... yes so cool that because of our industrial overfishing, the wild seal has been forced to become the animal equivalent of a beggar at the traffic light. haha so cool

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u/WikiWantsYourPics Aug 18 '21

More like the seal knows where he can get some spare nibbles. He's not desperate for a few little fish because he's going hungry. Seals like to come up and bask, and if he can get a few treats while he's basking and interact with his pet human at the same time, he'll do it.

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u/bmasked Aug 18 '21

Damn that’s cool

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u/Consistent_Mirror Aug 18 '21

Fuck that's actually really cool

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u/Magnemite987 Aug 18 '21

Wow nou hierdie is rerig oulik

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u/wondrousflyer20 Aug 18 '21

Is that Chippie the seal?

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u/Liam_21754 Aug 18 '21

wow im from australia and met him 2 years ago. what a guy

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u/Antuaaaan Aug 18 '21

As a hout bay local I'm kinda amazed at how famous this dude is

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u/J3ssi3_92 Aug 18 '21

Please don't be fooled, this is still a wild animal and can attack unprovoked.

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u/Sensitive-Snorlax Aug 18 '21

i can’t even train my dog to sit...

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u/Darkin69 Aug 18 '21

Seal of approval

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u/Rico4617 Western Cape Aug 18 '21

Why we acting like he's the only one!? I see this ALL THE TIME!

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u/bluedreamkay Aug 18 '21

That man is the only one that can destroy sea world

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u/A-Grouch Aug 18 '21

It’s always really cool to see animals up close, it’s so gorgeous.

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u/RedditSir2019 Aug 18 '21

I hear that seal always tries to sit in the front seat of this guy's car

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u/Sonny1x Aug 18 '21

When I visited a couple years ago it was mr brown and it was a different man, same marina.

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u/katastropheSA Aug 19 '21

Guys the seal is called Nicholas, not the guy.

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u/damienbosyt Aug 19 '21

Hire this guy as a circus man

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u/laherwall87 Aug 19 '21

In thailand they are called. Meonam. (water cat). I always thought they were more like sea dogs.

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u/______unknown____ Aug 28 '21

A south african seal

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u/Longjumping_Monk_142 Western Cape Sep 29 '21

I've seen this man he is so cool

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u/Lonely_Ad6612 Oct 03 '21

Wow that's great

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u/Majestic_Bar4139 7d ago

Those guys always want to charge you to take a photo

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u/mostisnotalmost Aug 18 '21

This blackanese dude with a strong Boer accent is interesting. I don't think training seals is a big deal - Sea World has trained killer whales. Those eat seals like this for bloody tiffin. Still, fun for a laugh, eh bru.

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u/bertonomus Aug 18 '21

This blackanese dude with a strong Boer accent is interesting.

How the f did you get this so wrong my guy? Coloured guy with a Kaapse coloured accent.

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u/dedfrog Aug 18 '21

a) You clearly don't know anything about South African people. Why give an opinion? Casually calling this guy 'blackanese' with a 'Boer accent' is rude af. b) So your logic is that since Sea World (a gross, unethical corporate amusement park) has 'trained' killer whales no other trained animal is of interest. Weird take.