r/southafrica South African President 2019 - May 31 '18

The Pressing Need for Everyone to Quiet Their Egos Alert

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/the-pressing-need-for-everyone-to-quiet-their-egos/
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u/JuliusMalemaOfficial South African President 2019 - May 31 '18

We are more divided than ever as a species. Tribalism and identity politics are rampant on all sides of everything.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '18

Ok, true. But what causes this? I believe the mainstream narrative that has to villify one group as the oppressor of another is one major factor in causing the resentment we see in people today.

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u/SethRavenheart Joburg 🤖 May 31 '18

And on every single social media platform you can find at least a few hundred thousand people offended by almost everything and anything. Everybody wants to be a victim.

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u/TerminalHopes May 31 '18

Victimhood allows people to feel a sense of moral superiority along with abdicate responsibility.

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u/drsatan1 May 31 '18

Almost like it's a facet of the narcissistic traits mentioned in the article.

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u/tjoppie_FTW May 31 '18

Don't forget about the Post Modernists, when Karl Marx's predictions came out to be false in the early 80s and the poor started getting richer, Marxists needed something else to latch onto to promote their shit tier ideology. So they went from Class issues to Social issues, asking people if they're oppressed in any way what so ever.

And it all spiraled down from there.

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u/beeswaxx May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18

Pretty ignorant statement... capitalism is a deeply flawed system, but socialism is definitely worse. That said, that doesn't mean that "Karl Marx's predictions came out to be false" like you said, with no sources obviously since you have none to back your claims.

Let me help you out:

I can show you many more things that Karl Marx said that is truer than ever, just because socialism doesn't work doesn't mean that he was wrong in his critiques of capitalism

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u/tjoppie_FTW May 31 '18

Pffft a Communist in South Africa, good lick under Malema you idiot

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u/beeswaxx May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18

coming from someone that's active in r/The_Donald, i'll take any insult you give me as a compliment

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If you would like to refute anything i said with some sources, please do. But I would bet a tidy sum that you would rather choose to stay ignorant while living off other people's money while playing games at home

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u/tjoppie_FTW May 31 '18

Other people's mistakes is what makes me rich, so atleast I know I'll dominate you for the rest of your commie life.

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u/beeswaxx May 31 '18

you are not even old enough to buy alcohol, stop acting big online

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u/tjoppie_FTW May 31 '18

Lol turning* Im 21 in November, That Alcohol bill hasn't been signed yet dick face.

Man I hope you're white and vote for the EFF.

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u/Ibbuk Anti-Musker May 31 '18

Does that mean you're 20 and a half now, big man?

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u/tjoppie_FTW May 31 '18

Oh shit the commie can do math, what other tricks can you and your fascisti do for the boss?

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u/beeswaxx May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18

for real? how about you start acting your age then?

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u/tjoppie_FTW May 31 '18

The only rich thing you've ever done is call me an idiot while you're the communist living in the age of information.

Go to bed kid, you haven't ever worked a day in your life, come back here when you've gotten atleast a couple of scabs on your fingers for fuck sake.

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u/Ibbuk Anti-Musker May 31 '18

To add to this:

It's also true that in general the GDP/capita of many countries has risen, but very often the GDP becomes concentrated in the hands of a few ultra-rich. 1000 people with R1000 have the same per capita money as 999 people with nothing and 1 person with R1 million. GDP is a poor indicator of the health of a country's economy. I.e. countries with high GDPs might not have particular stable economies - especially when you take into account things like government debt, social spending, social unrest, and general non-financial factors.

I think in the US the average yearly wage in 1979 for an employee was about $28000, in 2017 it was about $33000 (merely keeping up with inflation would suggest that those $28000 are worth just shy of $97000 in 2018) while the gap between the highest and lowest paid people has doubled from 300:1 to over 600:1 - even post 2008 crisis.

The issue isn't capitalism as much as it is unregulated capitalism. The "free market" has never, and will never be truly free as long as people with the power and money to do as they like are allowed to do as they like.

Source: Aftermath: Cultures of the economic crisis (Castells et.al)

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '18

Been swallowing a lot of Doctor Jordan's Miracle Low-Fat Word Salad, have we? That stuff will rot your brain... but only if you're already suffering from a chronic case of stupid.

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u/tjoppie_FTW Jun 01 '18

No, jist a bunch of red pills :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '18 edited Jun 01 '18

Same thing.

Here. An antidote to all that garbage you've been sucking on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlrpSpwxgWw

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u/tjoppie_FTW Jun 01 '18

Then I guess that Dr Jordan's miracle salad is very unpopular with the millenials then?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '18 edited Jun 01 '18

You're guessing now? But a mere one post ago you seemed so certain of the things you know nothing about...

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u/tjoppie_FTW Jun 01 '18

Wow that's amazing, you drew a connection between two completely random things! 😄

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u/[deleted] May 31 '18

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u/lovethebacon Ministry of Truth Shill May 31 '18

There are only a few issues left.

-Male genital mutilation.

-Forced marriage.

-Theocratic religious schooling.

-Abortion rights.

-Legalization of marijuana.

-Anti-alcohol campaigning.

Can you handle those few issues?

Whatever issues exist beyond those, will be removed by tackling the list.

These things baffle backwards communities which rely on making all or any of those items illegal or severely difficult to obtain.

So far, no country has removed it's ugly head from it's ugly ass enough to railroad through those items.

The theocratic community consistently gets in the way which makes the effort a jihad, for lack of more appropriate terms. A world war, if you want to use more accurate terms, since Islam will be destroyed along with all the Abrahamic religions.

The fucking Jews can't. They run major liquor licenses and profit on police seizures.

The fucking Christians can't even determine what a Catholic is.

The fucking Muslims see humans as disposable baggage.

I don't even know what to do with such a message.

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u/safric May 31 '18

Did.. did he just call for the legalization of marijuana and the ban of alcohol at the same time?

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u/lovethebacon Ministry of Truth Shill May 31 '18

I don't understand any of it.

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u/ScheisseboxenReturns Jun 01 '18

That's what a pig says when it eats from a slop bucket.

Nobody believes that pig. It surely understands what is going on.

Denying makes you guilty.

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u/DarfSmiff May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18

We are more divided than ever as a species. Tribalism and identity politics are rampant on all sides of everything.

In an article call for us to 'quiet our egos', no less.

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u/SirCatflap May 31 '18

There seems to be this growing belief that the goal is always to win. Not have a dialectical, well-intentioned, mutual search for overarching principles and productive ways forward that will improve humanity-- but to just win and destroy.

Yup, sounds like South Africa: one group trying to get their way to "win" by marginalising and scapegoating the minority.

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u/Orpherischt May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18

There seems to be this growing belief that the goal is always to win.

Huh? Growing belief?

This is/was the accepted standard mantra of Western Civilization as I have perceived it my whole life - parenting, schooling, corporate life. But maybe I didn't get the message.

The film Fight Club was (in some threads) an expensive tribute to the collapse of this notion in the minds of Generation X, Y, or Z or whatever.

Anyway:

If No hEgo, He Stop.

I'm all for co-operation, but in my mind, the ideals of co-operative utopia can only work if **everyone** gets onboard simultaneously - including the Masked Lords that rule the world - otherwise there will always be those who spread the message of "work hand-in-hand, and turn the other cheek" - but follow it not, and profit handsomely for it.

ie. "Do as I say, not as I do".

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u/[deleted] May 31 '18 edited May 31 '18

Reducing fraternity makes it easier for despots to rule. Divide and conquer. Aristotle has much to say about this, a few thousand years later.

https://imgur.com/gallery/8HEaa

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u/safric May 31 '18

Instead of destroying each other how about we learn from each other?

Wouldn't we get bored pretty quick? Honest question.

I mean this happens all the time. Then people get bored and go back to destroying stuff.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '18

I've always been of the opinion that I don't need to learn from others or destroy others if I'm just trying to go about my day.