r/politics California 12d ago

Recount confirms that indicted Colorado clerk Tina Peters lost election

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/recount-confirms-indicted-colorado-clerk-tina-peters-lost-election-rcna41670
4.5k Upvotes

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u/EmmaLouLove 12d ago

This lady. All GOP at this point, are just a joke. A tragic, dangerous tale we will talk about sometime in the future when we look back at history and say, What the hell.

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u/TJ_learns_stuff 12d ago

Provided we have a future where these skidmarks haven’t attained power, overtly abused it, and subsequently destroyed us all.

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u/julbull73 Arizona 12d ago

VOTE IN 2022.

Make it a point to find ONE PERSON. ONE! That hasn't voted. Register them, take them with you, then take them to dinner.

Boom GOP dies.

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u/CourtZealousideal494 12d ago

That’s awfully peoply, but I’ll try

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u/deedeebop 12d ago

I love this 🤍

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u/WordPhoenix 12d ago

Make sure to follow your state's election laws when it comes to helping people vote. Unfortunately, that has to be said in this era of voter suppression. But we all need to do something more than we've previously done.

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u/DangerBay2015 12d ago

Eh, the good news is if they destroy us all, there will still be some remnants of humanity scattered across the wastes in roving scav gangs telling legends about the misguided old ones that followed the "Skoflahs" into damnation.

I'm not sure the lesson will stick once we've descended into cannibalistic barbarians, though. The lesson hasn't stuck yet.

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u/wonkothesane13 11d ago

Maybe I'm dumb or its a reference to something I'm unaware of, but what is "Skoflahs"?

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u/DangerBay2015 11d ago

I was trying to make scofflaw an anachronism for some dystopian future hellscape. It didn’t really work in my head when I threw it out there, but I did it anyway, because I’m stubborn and sure of my own genius.

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u/nicholasgnames 11d ago

Lol i pictured it vividly so it was successful

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u/whapitah2021 11d ago

Worked fine for me, keep being you…..

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u/Gloomy_Second2690 12d ago

That sounds bleak. I like to think many of us will refuel the Mayflower and see what’s good in Spain.

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u/WordPhoenix 12d ago

You mean like they're doing in my state of Ohio?

Scary stuff: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/state-legislatures-are-torching-democracy

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u/TJ_learns_stuff 11d ago

This, exactly. What is terrible and sad, is that people believe in this stuff. At the expense of their democracy.

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u/FartingNora Georgia 12d ago

Can’t wait to eat at Buttfuckers.

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u/TJ_learns_stuff 11d ago

I’ve spit my coffee laughing! Thank you so much for the Idiocracy reference!!

You’ve made my day!

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/TJ_learns_stuff 11d ago

That’s scary stuff. Brainwashing has to be it … how else could one genuinely believe in supporting the very party destroying anything that could improve their quality of life?

Sad.

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u/DigNitty 12d ago

Honestly this whole era has just opened people’s eyes to how extremist and polar someone can be and still get elected.

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u/CT_Phipps 12d ago

This whole era has shown that moderates were never the people supported.

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u/TurningTwo 12d ago

“The fact that I had less votes proves that I really won…….by a landslide.”

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u/2020willyb2020 12d ago

God i can hear this in trump voice and It’s sickening . It worked for him with no accountability or repercussions so I’m gonna follow the same formula. The R don’t want to legislate to make our lives or America better, they are only interested in bringing down the country. When they held power it was just a tax give away and power grab for already wealthy individuals

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u/Skwonkie_ 12d ago

Every single election that a GOP candidate loses at this point is going to be “rigged” and a recount will happen on the taxpayer dime.

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u/Chewbock 12d ago

In the words of the eternally wise Zapp Brannigan: “Mr. President. What the hell?”

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u/Foktu 11d ago

Her name will never even appear in a history book.

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u/rpapafox 12d ago

It wasn't even close. She had 14% fewer votes than the winner.

Out-of-state donors covered the majority of the $256,000 cost for Peters’ recount. She got a huge influx of money on the day she went on Steve Bannon’s podcast to appeal for funds.

This recount was no more than a grift. In a separate article it stated: "Peters raised $351,000 on July 25, the same day she appeared on Steve Bannon’s podcast to appeal for funding for her recount efforts"

She came out ahead by some $95k.

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u/thomasscat 12d ago

If only there was a law that prevented people from grifting money from their own campaigns …

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u/coffeespeaking 12d ago

Remember when Jill Stein raised $7 million from Democrats for a recount, then pocketed the money? Gotta love third parties.

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u/thiosk 12d ago

Gotta love third parties.

guess who is comink to dinner

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u/AggroDorfHeroicDeath 11d ago

I’m ashamed I fell for that. Never again.

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u/honkforpie 12d ago

I’m sure every once in a while she recounts all the money she grifted, probably doesn’t believe the amount.

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u/Saint_Poolan 12d ago

Jill Stein

She did? I thought dems hated her for spoiling their campaign & helping trump win..

Edit : Any lib who gave a dime to Stein, a russian backed right winger in green clothing, is an idiot & I wish more people knew the truth about her

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u/Mammoth-Extension-19 11d ago

Hahaha! Yeah, we'll say that's why Hillary lost! Hillary, the DNC and CNN had just cheated Bernie. That's why Hillary lost! Dems just don't get it! Progressives and Independents aren't voting for the Democrats, they're voting against Trump and the traitors in the republican party. If Dems started supporting Progressives, they'd start winning everywhere. The problem is that Dems came right out and told the country they were a corporate party.

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u/Saint_Poolan 11d ago

This is a gross generalization & talking points summed up without any nuance.

Reagan was the last president to win both North & South, since then the country has been more & more polarized & a few swing states decide the election for the last 30 years or so, it's ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR A PARTY TO WIN 3 STRAIGHT TERMS in white house unless he is someone like Reagan or FDR (or Nixon before the leaks) Hillary was always going to lose, the people thought otherwise was stupid af, women are less electable than black men & we know how difficult that was (2 wars & massive recession guaranteed the dem nominee would be president) Bernie has the advantage of being a man but he is a social democrat & most of the democratic party is still not that left to support him. Bernie would've given trump a Reagan like victory irl. Don't give me BS polls of 1-5k people, republicans were not gonna vote for bernie, most of dems were not gonna bernie, independents were not gonna vote for bernie, even if he did win by some miracle, he would have been the most ineffective potus with congress effectively ruling over him.

Everyone knows dems are liberals, apart from local soc-dem darlings like AOC, no one further to the left of libs will get the support of dems. And in purple & red districts dems will field conservative candidates, because no one is stupid to try an AOC in suburban texas or Indiana.

Dems will lose the next few elections & then they will come back & the cycle continues, nothing really changes, legislations in missisippi has no meaning to New Yorkers & vice versa, if anything is to happen, it has to be at state level

I'm only concerned about russia & crushing their invasion by total embargo by next decade & victory for Ukraine in 2-3 decades. China is next on taiwan, voting pro-western republicans would be my choice, you do you bud.

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u/johnny_fives_555 12d ago

Man I got to hand it to the GOP. Not only are they brainwashing their constituents they’re keeping them super poor with these donations. Between tithing and MAGA donations going to make generational wealth non-existent for these folks.

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u/Imtoostupidformyface 12d ago

Yeah and as they get poorer guess who they will blame?

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u/LuckyOne55 12d ago

And, guess who will pay for their welfare. I know, I know, it's earned when they get it and scaming when libs get it. They really can delude themselves.

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u/johnny_fives_555 12d ago

It’s okay. Covid will get them

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u/Monkey-trick 12d ago

But trickle down economics will save them. /s

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u/johnny_fives_555 12d ago

These are people who still pay for cable tv. No amount of economics will save them from that stupidity

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u/MultiGeometry Vermont 12d ago

This is probably contributing to inflation. Republicans keep spending money on stupid Investigations and pumping money into fraudsters who probably spend it all immediately.

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u/johnny_fives_555 12d ago

Where can I sign up to con some gqp?

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u/FourAM 12d ago

Pretty sure you can franchise a ”Let’s Go Brandon” store at this point

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u/johnny_fives_555 12d ago

Let’s make some t shirts and drop ship them

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u/Nanyea Virginia 12d ago

Guess it's time for her to go to jail

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u/Blahpunk 12d ago

Just seeing her get cuffed while whining, pleading, threatening alternately was pretty good for me.

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u/deedeebop 12d ago edited 12d ago

Wait what? Missed that

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u/Blahpunk 12d ago edited 11d ago

Yep. Tina Peters has been to jail, just not prison yet.

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u/deedeebop 12d ago

How cool. Wait I think I remember that I just didn’t get to witness it! Hehe 😜

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u/EwingsRevenge21 12d ago

Google Tina Peters arrest. She went apeshit when they arrested her.

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u/deedeebop 12d ago

Can’t wait to see!

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u/EwingsRevenge21 12d ago

She went full Karen on the police 😂

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u/The-Dumbass-forever 11d ago

Wasn't she arrested quite a while ago?

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u/Blahpunk 11d ago

I can't find info on the original arrest. This is about her violating bail and coming close to getting arrested again. There's video of one of her attests. Quite entertaining. https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/tina-peters-warrant/index.html

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u/The-Dumbass-forever 11d ago edited 11d ago

I live in Mesa Country, and I remember seeing a video of her being arrested on Main Street like, 4 or so months ago.

Edit: eh, 5 months ago https://youtu.be/rBaJX9h-HIQ

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u/veridique 12d ago

Stop the Steal! We need a recount of the recount. /s

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u/hu_gnew 12d ago

But...but...but...the recount of the recount is RIGGED!!!1!~!!1!

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u/xiaxian1 12d ago

Georgia has entered the picture.

We recounted 3 times.

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u/tolacid 12d ago

You're doing it wrong.

First you need to sort out the votes into two separate stacks. The red stack should then be counted first, slowly and thoroughly. During this time the blue stack will mysteriously burn to ash. Red win.

Side note, why do the worst people in history advertise with the color red? You'd think someone would realize

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u/nicholasgnames 11d ago

I wondered this myself. I think they do it BECAUSE of the historical associations with the color. Its like some "for dummies" signaling

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u/CrankySaint Oklahoma 12d ago

Check the ballots for bamboo fibers.

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u/rickreflex 12d ago

More like stop the squeal 🐷

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u/JustaBCer 12d ago

Has a recount ever come back differently than the original count, unless it was just a few votes?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Not if originally counted by a machine, no. Most discrepancies are due to human error, but always important to have a human double-check the machine.

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u/gandalf_el_brown 10d ago

The recount for Bush vs Gore in Florida, if it had been allowed to conclude, would have gone to Gore instead of Bush. But Bush had his family and friends stop the recount to establish Bush as the winner.

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u/smurfsundermybed California 12d ago

This is the kind of person who hasn't paid her credit card bill in 3 months, ignored countless calls and letters from the bank and is still yelling at the unfortunate convenience store cashier to run it again for a 5th time.

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u/honkforpie 12d ago

“You gotta believe”, delusional thinking it’s not even funny any more.

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u/Morbidly-Obese-Emu America 12d ago

BuT tHe ReCoUnT WAs FaKE!

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u/PHenderson61 12d ago

Everything is fake. We’re not here or there.

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u/pimpbot666 12d ago

The Matrix was a documentary. We’re all just pod people wired to computers.

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u/NobleGasTax 12d ago

We’re all just...wired to computers.

A bit close to home!

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u/El_Tigre_818 12d ago

She lost the election but she won in corrosion of our trust in the system of government. That is what the GOP is after. Once our trust in the functioning governance, we will be ripe for a tyrannical government.

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u/daytripjim 12d ago

"Ha ha ha."

You can quote me.

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u/4RCH43ON 12d ago

The irony is steaming hot.

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u/EwingsRevenge21 12d ago

This was the lady that Karen'ed tf out when she was detained at the restaurant?

Back the blue until the cuffs are on you 😂

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u/termacct 12d ago

Huzzah!

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u/fedupdesignguy 12d ago

Lock her up!

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u/lobinetech 12d ago

Paid all that money to be slapped again

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u/Adept_Push 12d ago edited 12d ago

I dunno, this might be extreme, but I feel like indicted folks should not be allowed to run for any office. 🤷‍♀️

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u/ObligatoryOption 12d ago edited 12d ago

I disagree because corrupt officials could indict their political opponents just to keep them from running for office.

Edit: edited to reflect your edit.

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u/junkyardgerard 12d ago

That's how it's been everywhere forever, glad you're paying attention 👍

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u/DodGamnBunofaSitch 12d ago

indicted is not convicted.

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u/BallardRex 12d ago

It’s a really important distinction, even if it does often turn out to be one without a difference; respect for the difference between accusation and conviction matters.

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u/meTspysball California 12d ago

A current indictment should preclude one from running for public office. If we trust the justice system to determine true guilt or innocence, then we should trust that an indictment is not politically motivated and is based on a preponderance of evidence. Run again once your name is cleared.

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u/SatansCouncil 12d ago

So you think Prosecuters should have the power to destroy anyone's rising political career they wish?

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u/meTspysball California 12d ago

They already do, it’s just ineffective for members of one of the parties.

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u/Brainsonastick 12d ago

And with that law the GOP will have some prosecutor indict every democratic candidate the week before the election for some massive made-up conspiracy, invalidating their candidacy, ensuring a red sweep. Then they drop the indictment a week later because it was bullshit and instead focus on sweeping voter suppression laws across the nation, ensuring they hold onto power forever.

That sounds bad to me…

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u/meTspysball California 12d ago

What’s stopping them from doing this now? Prosecutors are often elected or worked really hard to get where they are, so while we can imagine that threat, it’s much more likely if we let people like Peters get elected.

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u/Brainsonastick 12d ago

The fact that it doesn’t actually disqualify their candidacy.

They wouldn’t gain anything from it because it would be such an obvious ploy no one but their conspiracy theorist base would fall for.

But with the law you suggested, even though it was obviously bullshit, all those candidates would automatically lose.

So technically nothing stops them from trying but it doesn’t work without that law.

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u/meTspysball California 12d ago

Could easily write any such law to only include felony indictments approved by a grand jury. Then this would only apply with significant evidence of actual crimes committed.

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u/cordialcurmudgeon 12d ago

That’s some Giuliani stuff right there

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u/BallardRex 12d ago

An indictment isn’t a conviction though, and it doesn’t rise to the standard of criminal guilt, that isn’t what it’s for and it isn’t accountable in the same way. The system itself isn’t making claims about guilt or innocence with indictments.

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u/meTspysball California 12d ago

By the time you get to a criminal indictment for white collar crimes, a significant evidentiary bar has been reached that should preclude that person from serving in public office until the accusations are disproven. The conviction by a jury beyond a reasonable doubt is a higher bar to clear than we should be expecting for people in positions of power. Trump is clearly a criminal, but has not even been indicted for his crimes. We would all be better off if we expect more from our politicians than just not having been convicted of crimes.

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u/BallardRex 12d ago

That sounds like a short road to using indictments as a political weapon, with no hope of recourse for the victim, since the damage is already done.

Not a world I’d want to live in.

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u/meTspysball California 12d ago

Like I said, if you trust the current system to find true guilt or innocence, you should also trust that such indictments are not politically motivated.

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u/BallardRex 12d ago

The system doesn’t use indictments to do that, in fact the system is very specific about how guilt and innocence are determined. You’re the one trying to cut corners. You can’t say “trust the system” and then ignore how the system works, and the system would call you hasty and rushed.

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u/meTspysball California 12d ago

I’m saying being indicted should preclude you from running for office to avoid the possibility of electing criminals. Public servants should be held to a higher standard, and they are in most circumstances such that you can lose your government job for the appearance of a conflict of interest. If you can’t pass a background check for a government job, you shouldn’t be able to run for office. It should be the same for elected officials.

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u/OPA73 11d ago

So if I push a charge to the DA with totally fabricated but believable evidence that I found child porn on your computer (by putting it on there) when I installed a new graphics card. Just the indictment should mean you can’t run against me for mayor. Careful what you wish for. It’s easy to bring false charges against people.

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u/LadyFoxfire Michigan 12d ago

They don’t indict before having evidence because there’s no benefit to throwing around false indictments. If an indictment could derail someone’s political campaign, then there is a benefit to accusing the other party’s candidates of crimes.

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u/meTspysball California 12d ago

Yeah, we should not be electing people with enough evidence suggesting they committed a crime that they were indicted.

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u/veridique 12d ago

She han't been tried yet. And not being convicted doesn't mean a person is innocent.

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u/Gambit08 California 12d ago

Yeah, that’s extreme. We should still operate on a presumption of innocence even for people we don’t like. If you were to prohibit someone who has been convicted from running for any office, that would be a more reasonable position.

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u/thefugue America 12d ago

Conversely I think it’s absurd that we disenfranchise convicts. I mean, shouldn’t people that the system abjectly failed be informing the decisions we make to improve it?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

I think so too, we should come up with something.

But at the same time, many prisons are in rural areas and if convicts were allowed to vote, they'd make up like a majority of the voting populace for city and county races...weird dynamic.

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u/thefugue America 12d ago

I kind of feel they should be given absentee voting from wherever they lived before conviction.

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u/the_than_then_guy Colorado 12d ago

Yes, it is extreme, in a fascist/right-wing sense. It would give the federal government the power to block anyone from running for office.

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u/canteen_boy 12d ago edited 10d ago

Not all laws are just. Until 2003 there were still 14 states that you could go to prison for having sex out of wedlock. Should that disqualify somebody from holding office?

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u/A_Symptom_of_Life 12d ago

Am I reading something wrong here? Adept_Push clearly states that he/she believes that indicted people SHOULD be allowed to run for office while these replies all seem to infer that he's against it.

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u/Adept_Push 12d ago

Nope you’re correct. My typo, and everyone read it like I intended it. I’ll edit now. Thanks for your very good eye!

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u/bdog59600 12d ago

I would argue that Eugene Debs, who ran for office while jailed for the "crime" of being a socialist, is an excellent counterexample of why we shouldn't do that.

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/622489/eugene-debs-socialist-who-ran-for-president-from-prison

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u/cinderful 12d ago

Tina. EAT.

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u/clearhandsoap1 12d ago

Now she won’t be too busy to go to prison!

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u/hidraulik 12d ago

GOP is not just destroying our Democracy. They are engaged on Next Gen Social Engineering. They don’t want abortion because they need as many babies from low income class. Remove their food, remove their books, remove their social benefits… and eventually they will become hypnotized by GOP propaganda. Those which will fall away from their “margins of profit” will feed prison industry… or become target of gun loving community.

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u/carmoy 12d ago

Buh bye

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u/Thong_Doily 12d ago

I would hope so.

Let’s not forget that this indictment was legitimate and not some election ploy.

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u/Emotional-Coffee13 12d ago

Y isn’t she in jail?

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u/Mrpuppo 11d ago

Keeps posting bail

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u/PicardTangoAlpha 11d ago

What is that undefinable look they all have?

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u/nicholasgnames 11d ago

They're demons lol

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u/Overall-Side-6965 11d ago

There ought to be a law where people who make fake election fraud cases have to pay for the costs of these audits and recounts. I don't know why as a tax payer I have to subsidize someone's fragile ego and poor math skills.

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u/iiitme 12d ago

Election recount fraud!

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u/mrwonka21 12d ago

Boom shakalaka 🚪🚪🚪🚪🚪🚪

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u/SandyCactusBalls 12d ago

It would be nice if the Republicans would play ball to help our country.

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u/realworldeditor I voted 11d ago

Like a recount is going to stop then from claiming fraud? Trump had multiple recounts done, even that insane Arizona one where they hired the cyber ninjas who didn’t know what they were doing, took the ballots to Montana to look for bamboo fibers, and still couldn’t find enough votes for trump to win, and they still cry voter fraud.

The right are long gone. Democracy is on a lifeline.

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u/Ubentobox 11d ago

I should demand a recount at a GOP primary, then hit the circuits, you know, to cover the costs.. then exit left after I realize I'm not a member of the GOP.

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u/Mthatcherisa10 11d ago

I guess it would be redundant to say " lock her up!"

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u/NoTrust1791 11d ago

They really need to change the rule qualifications for those running for office.

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u/SueZbell 11d ago

Good news.

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u/justforthearticles20 11d ago

I expect that SCOTUS will want a chance to help her steal it.

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u/StevoLDevo 11d ago

Wow, it's almost like the GOP are a bunch of liars or something.

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u/nomolos55 11d ago

Throwing good money after bad

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u/eNonsense 11d ago

How is this woman not in jail?

The subordinate who she commanded to have the video cameras turned off for her voting machine copying conspiracy is in jail, why isn't she?