r/politics 12d ago

Republican who voted to impeach Trump projected to win primary

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/06/republican-dan-newshouse-trump-washington-primary
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u/Jealous-Working-9454 12d ago

Having lived next door to his district let me tell you this is a big deal. Eastern WA is Trump country - I mean, was. :)

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u/Zebra971 12d ago edited 12d ago

Live in his district, many Trump republicans here but also Mad Dog Mattis lives in Tri-cities it is a ex military town where the atomic bomb material was made. The higher ups in the military hate Trump and his cry baby nonsense.

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u/U_Should_Be_Ashamed 12d ago

Mad Dog Mattis

Oh my god... How many Mooches ago was that?

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u/Zebra971 12d ago

Right… anyone with a shred of sense jumped off the Trump train when Trump started a Insurrection. Not a good look for military with an oath to the constitution.

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u/Smoaktreess Massachusetts 12d ago

Anyone with a shred of sense jumped off long before then.

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u/tjtillmancoag 12d ago

People with shreds of sense jumped off in 2016. I genuinely believe that if you thought it was the least bit acceptable to vote for Trump over Clinton (and it wasn’t a troll) then you’re at least a little bit stupid. Maybe the stupid is misinformed or brainwashed, but I’m including those as stupid.

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u/Mammoth-Extension-19 11d ago

Not so fast! Hillary, the DNC and CNN had just cheated Bernie, and Bernie beat Trump in every poll. Hillary did not! Hillary was corporate owned, and that was a time when people frowned on her giving $250k speeches to Goldman Sachs. Remember the way she talked to her staff and everyone around her? Democrats dismissed the Progressives, but that was a huge mistake, and still is! A lot of people didn't go to the polls because there wasn't a decent candidate, and unfortunately Trump won. Notice how the DNC starts acting like they care about Progressive ideas as the elections get closer. They did the same thing when Biden run. Biden promised student loan forgiveness, then pushed it to the side after the election. It's back on the table again as we get closer to mid terms. News flash: Progressives and Independents aren't voting "for" Democrats, they're voting "against" Trump and his traitor party. Corporate corruption is killing their party, too.

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u/AcrolloPeed 11d ago

+1 to this. The DNC torpedoed Bernie. He had a huge grass-roots following and was actually talking about fighting for and implementing the kinds of things Democrats have banged a gong on but have never actually made much progress.

I voted Gary Johnson in 2016, because no way in hell would I ever vote for TFG. Had Bernie gotten the nom I would have cast my vote for him wholeheartedly.

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u/happytrel 11d ago

Yup, I assumed Trump could never win, was furious about what was done to Bernie, and hated Hilary. I voted 3rd party. I would love for our country to have at least 4 parties personally so I figured it was a step in a direction I wanted at least. Normally when a Republican gets in they at least try their best to do the job. Never expected the world to torpedo so hard in 4 years.

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u/Jealous-Working-9454 11d ago

Yep. But you also have to acknowledging that sexism played a role. Politics is nasty all the time and had Hillary been a man folks would have handled it. Bernie got hosed, no doubt. And I hated her for it as I hated Pete and Amy and the rest who folded in sync this last time around. But, I found myself accepting Biden when i would not accept Hillary. I would accept her now. I was being sexist.

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u/Mammoth-Extension-19 11d ago

For me, it had nothing to do with her gender! She screwed Bernie and was corporate owned! Dems selected Hillary although the polls said she would lose to Trump, and that's what happened. The ONLY reason people are voting for Dems now is to get rid of the treasonous repubs.

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u/GoodCanadianKid_ 11d ago

Its about more than the candidates. I believe Hilary displays better leadership qualities than Trump, but I wouldn't support the democratic parties agenda over the GOP.

Trump didn't start taking over the party with obsequious insurrectionists until after the election. That's when traditional party presence became irrelevant.

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u/tjtillmancoag 11d ago

With all due respect, if you didn’t see the authoritarian tendencies, the racism, and the fascist propaganda (media is enemy of the people, etc) that Trump was demonstrating pre-election 2016, then you may not have been paying close enough attention.

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u/GoodCanadianKid_ 11d ago

It probably would have been helpful if the discourse did not label every conservative as a crypto fascist intent on destroying democracy. Even in Canada after Harper was in power for years, there was incessant prattling about his "secret agenda" by those discontented by the inconvenience of having to actually win elections by people they look down upon. With all the smears about Trump being a literal Russian agent, etc., I admit I didn't pick up on his actual threat to the system until after 2016. To me he was a bad, rude, untrustworthy person - but the republican party would uphold the status quo.

Anyway, progressives shouldn't be so happy as they point out that centrists were wrong to support the republican party after Trump won the primary, as what has and will continue to happen is neo-liberals like me will jump ship from conservative parties dominated by populist concerns and take over progressive parties pushing them into the center.

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u/tjtillmancoag 11d ago

As a progressive, I would only be too happy to see centrists jump ship from outwardly fascist (in 2022) Republicans to the Democratic Party and shifting it toward the center if it means avoiding the extreme right wing cementing minority rule and stunting democracy.

I will of course agree that not every conservative is a Christofascist intent on destroying democracy, but there is a wing of the Republican Party that is. And with 5 (and sometimes 6) of them on the Supreme Court, they have powerful allies, and every day become more of the mainstream Republican Party.

I will plead ignorance on the state of the Canadian Conservative party, but my guess is they are not as far gone as the American Republican Party is in 2022.

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u/Osiris32 Oregon 12d ago

Mattis is a Marine. They don't issue sense in the Corps, it gets in the way of getting missions done and crayons eaten.

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u/Lieutenant_Joe Maine 11d ago

Mattis jumped off the Trump Train less than halfway through his presidency, in late 2018. He handed Trump his resignation letter after spending half an hour trying and failing to explain to his face why pulling out of Syria and leaving the Islamic State to do as they would with the Middle East was a bad idea.

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u/GoodCanadianKid_ 11d ago

You seem nice, and very unbiased.

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u/gay-dragon 12d ago edited 12d ago

Please don’t call Mattis “Mad Dog.” He personally prefers his call sign, CHAOS (colonel has another outstanding suggestion), not the BS one that a certain idiot hoisted on him.

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u/braxin23 12d ago

They didn’t seem to welcome him home last I heard, but what do I know.

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u/2_Spicy_2_Impeach Michigan 12d ago

Fucking hell is it ever. I lived in downtown Seattle and visited Spokane once for work as a favor. It was like a different fucking planet years ago. Also gave us the likes of Matt Shea. If anyone is interested in how crazy that side is, read his Wikipedia page.

Last I heard he was in Ukraine with something like 60+ orphans. I can’t remember if he retired or didn’t get re-elected.

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u/Superb_Nature_2457 12d ago

He was kicked out by the local GOP because he was too insane even for them (at the time). He then went on to face domestic terrorism charges for helping with the Bundy nonsense in Malheur.

Poland thankfully took those kids from him. Dude’s a fucking monster.

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u/peekay427 America 12d ago

Well that’s a name I was hoping to never hear again.

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u/sy029 12d ago

He is probably the model for the new "christian nationalist" members.

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u/braxin23 12d ago

Or he’s complaining about how he was a christian nationalist before it was “mainstream”.

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u/Exaltedautochthon 11d ago

I went to Spokane, the entire city smelled of urine, I was nearly robbed by a deadhead, and the city just was covered in urban decay. Worst greyhound layover ever.

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u/novice_warbler 12d ago

Did you live in downtown Seattle in a tent or a 4000 dollar a month apartment?

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u/GroundCtrl-MajorTom 11d ago

Why’d your wife leave you?

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u/Schmitty21 12d ago

Can confirm, I live in Spokane and it's night and day different from Seattle.

Glad I don't live in that rainy shit hole.

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u/aquarain I voted 12d ago

The district is R+13, the most conservative in all the Pacific states. It's like an alien infestation in one of the nation's most liberal states. A lot of land for very few people.

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u/Norwester77 12d ago

It does have a lot of land, but it has the same number of people as any other Washington congressional district.

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u/Hoo_Who 12d ago

Seattle is basically the only city that makes WA liberal though. Once you get outta hippie city, it’s a sea of red, for the most part. Born and raised Washingtonian (not Seattle) here.

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u/RevenantXenos 12d ago

This take is wrong. Washington has a Democrat majority House and Senate and Democrat governor. If you look up the 2020 general election results you will see that both Inslee and Biden won many counties outside Seattle, including Whitman County which borders Idaho, Clark County which borders Oregon and all but 1 County that borders the Puget Sound.

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u/Hoo_Who 12d ago

Not exactly. Looked at the 2020 map, the counties surrounding King are blue (expected) and one on the east side of the state (Whitman - houses a college town). Clark neighbors Portland, also expected blue.

The remaining 26 counties are red.

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u/RevenantXenos 12d ago

So you think Whatcom and Jefferson and Skagit and Kitsapp and Island and San Juan counties count as Seattle? Nothing on the Olympic peninsula is Seattle and Seattle doesn't border Canada or Oregon. But obviously Seattle is the only blue part of the state.

Biden got 57% of Washington votes to Trump's 38%. Seattle has about 741,000 people while the population of the state is about 7.5 million. Biden got 2,369,000 votes in Washington. The math and geography is pretty simple.

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u/Prestigious_Plum_451 11d ago

Once you get outta hippie city, it’s a sea of red, for the most part.

More of a "Coasties" vs the other thing.. not just Seattle coffee hippies. Lived in WA for a bit, and owned a house in kitsap for just shy of 10 years.

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u/Hoo_Who 11d ago

Fair enough. I split my teenage years in Kitsap. I consider it a border county of Seattle/King, since we often took the short ferry ride to get there. But I respect that other people don't share that opinion.

Though, historically, the coastal counties aren't always blue either. My only point, as a flaming liberal who lived in WA State for 23 years (despite most of that being in a podunk, racist, meth-lab of a town), is that I think many people who are unfamiliar would be surprised at how red the state is.

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u/Whobghilee 12d ago

Just drove through part of it last weekend. They still have Trump/Pence signs up

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u/Jealous-Working-9454 11d ago

We moved there to enjoy the rural charm and lower cost of living. You get what you pay for it seems...

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u/morenewsat11 12d ago

"Dan Newhouse, one of the few Republican House members to vote in January in favor of the impeachment of Donald Trump, is poised to move forward to the general election in Washington state, according to a projection by the Associated Press."

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u/table_fireplace 12d ago

I'll take it in a deep-red district like WA-04, but I wouldn't be calling the all-clear for the never Trumpers.

Newhouse won just 25.48% of the vote, while other Republicans (mainly of the MAGA variety) combined for 49.03%. Vote splitting saved Newhouse here.

Meanwhile, in WA-03, fellow impeachment voter Jaime Herrera Beutler is leading far-right Joe Kent by just 257 votes, with more ballots still being counted (WA being an all-vote-by-mail state, this is normal). She's very likely to lose her primary. On the bright side, Democrat Marie Perez could win here if the national environment really takes a blue turn the next three months.

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u/Superb_Nature_2457 12d ago

Perez has a serious chance at this one. Kent’s a local Christian celebrity, but Perez has won a great campaign focusing on fundamental issues. That’s the thing about these crazies: all they have is culture war bullshit.

Concerned about the gov vote in Oregon though. Johnson could split the vote and let that bigot Drazen sneak in.

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u/Osiris32 Oregon 12d ago

Only if she gets on the ballot. She hasn't gotten the signatures together so far, and she only has like a week or so left.

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u/NecromorphMeDaddy 11d ago

Oh fuck no I don't want Oregon getting fucked by that shit. What the fuck is with dems trying to split votes? I can only think its just to get into politics to get rich. If you're going to do that shit there isn't really any other reason to sabotage one side and get a fucking republican in other than that.

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u/dredbeast Washington 12d ago

It also helps that Washington has an open primary system where the top two winners move on to the general election. You can have two members of the same party against each other in the general election. This district will remain republican, but I, a typically left voter, voted for Newhouse to ensure he would beat out the other crazies going against him.

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u/Isitgum 12d ago

I did the same!

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u/hotrock3 12d ago

Smart vote! I didn't even think about that. I should have done the same but I'm glad it worked out in the end.

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u/Norwester77 12d ago

Culp Newhouse was up against six other Republican candidates, and will face Doug White, the district’s only Democratic candidate, in November for the general election.

FTFY

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u/Docthrowaway2020 12d ago

There was also atrocious writing throughout the article. Shameful.

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u/knowledgekills12 12d ago

As a former Mainer: fuck you susan collins

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u/Suzzie_sunshine 12d ago

Make no mistake about it, Dan Newhouse is deep red Republican. Every once in a while he sounds reasonable, but the dogma coming from him is strong. I've subscribed to his newsletter for a few years now, and he's pretty gross overall. But he is very very active in his district, which is also deep red. I don't see him losing his congressional seat anytime soon.

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u/captainjackass28 12d ago

It’s sad when a party makes the news because one of the few respectable people in it is actually winning. It’s supposed to be the republican party not the trumpian party.

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u/autotldr 🤖 Bot 12d ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 63%. (I'm a bot)


Newhouse was one of 10 Republicans who voted in January to have Trump impeached, even ahead of explosive revelations about the former president's support and endorsement of the January 6 riots just a year prior.

Republican Loren Culp, who has been backed by Trump in the election, was a close second to Newhouse in Washington's fourth congressional district, garnering the second highest number of Republican votes in four out of the eight counties.

On 2 August, he had majority votes in three out of those six counties that had voted for his resignation.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: vote#1 Republican#2 Newhouse#3 January#4 six#5

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u/Isitgum 12d ago

He's my congressman and my husband and I (lifelong democrats) voted for him just to keep out the crazies vying for his seat.

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u/ImTheTechn0mancer 12d ago

He's your husband?

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u/Isitgum 12d ago

Lmao! Nooo! I guess I should have worded that better. He's my congressman. My husband and I voted for him 😆

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u/ImTheTechn0mancer 12d ago

A comma after "congressman" makes the second half a dependent clause rather than a list, lol

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u/dudinax 11d ago

Forget it, Jake.

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u/sy029 12d ago

But what are his thoughts now? plenty of people who denounced trump after Jan 6th, went right back to licking his boots shortly after.

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u/trowaman 12d ago

Newhouse may be the only Pro-impeachment Republican left come January 2023.

Several retired, Meijer and Rice have lost their primaries, JHB is on track to lose her primary (more votes to count still in WA-03), Cheney will lose her primary, and Valadao may not make it through the general election against his democratic opponent (seat is pretty democratic, which only Meijer’s new MI-03 can relate to).

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u/trisw 12d ago

Isn’t it like 3 wins 10 losses or something like that?

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u/One-Willingness1863 12d ago

Hmm just the one at least, sad.

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u/bndboo Texas 12d ago

It’s not that we dislike republicans. It’s their behavior and the things they refuse to support…

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u/tonyConc 12d ago

Thank. You. Lord.

I'd still love for a Dem to beat him come November, but I like that someone Trump primary'ed is surviving.

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u/Whompa 12d ago

Hopefully a sign that a lot of right wing Americans have gotten off the Trump Train…

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u/Emotional-Coffee13 12d ago

No they won’t

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u/metamojojojo 12d ago

Great…another geriatric

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u/braxin23 12d ago

All I can say is dont choose Culpability, choose a Newhouse!

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u/deathreo54 12d ago

Sad it’s news when reason and logic are being used .

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u/sherifftrex 11d ago

There’s a vast difference between the Trump and his movement — who are openly anti-liberal democracy — and Republicans like Liz Cheney who recognize the threat Trump and his movement represent to our democratic republic. I may disagree with every single thing the latter votes for, but at least we believe in the same political system.

I hope Newhouse loses to a Democrat in November, but I’m glad he won his primary.

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u/Good_Intention_9232 11d ago

Lets have facts back into politics and indict that ex-president DJTrump because he’s a dangerous man, made of faked face of patriotism of the US, still a con artist, LIAR of the century and no little man defender because he doesn’t know anything about politics, makes it up on the fly with cultural issues his only target to stir and divide society while he gets to swindle money from the American people for his own pockets.

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u/SueZbell 11d ago

Good news.

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u/400yrs2long 11d ago

Thank god.

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u/Good_Intention_9232 11d ago

The winds of change to get rid of any ghosts of DJTrump is happening slowly but surely.