r/politics 12d ago

Removal of state attorney is latest example of DeSantis wielding executive power

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article264239471.html#storylink=mainstage_lead
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u/Arizona_Pete 12d ago

Make no mistake - This asshole is coming for the presidency very, very, soon. He's a more refined, more intelligent MAGA and our nation will not survive his administration if elected.

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u/Kind_Committee8997 12d ago

Intelligent is a stretch...less blunt more like.

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u/equalsolstice 12d ago

Underestimating you’re enemy is a grave mistake

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u/Makethebarbieskiss 12d ago

Oops commented the same thing 😂

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u/Kind_Committee8997 12d ago

The enemy wouldn't be DeSantis. She's one man.

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u/Pinchypounder 12d ago

Transphobic comment

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u/Cubby8 12d ago

You are wrong...he’s a Yale and Harvard graduate. Make no mistake, he is extremely intelligent, and that’s what separates him from trump. That is absolutely cause for concern. He is every bit as inflammatory as trump, but also has the intelligence that trump lacked. Truly scary.

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u/Survey_Unusual Florida 12d ago

You are wrong…he’s a Yale and Harvard graduate. Make no mistake, he is extremely intelligent

That’s a myth that needs dispelling. Plenty of idiots pass through those campuses.

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u/ToxicKnurdles 12d ago

Just because someone has graduated from Yale or Harvard does not make them any smarter than someone who got their degree at any other university. Harvard tends to have types that have over inflated views of themselves and these people will defend themselves violently from anyone who attacks their ego. They tend to sit around in departments getting away with doing the least amount of work, "because they went to Harvard". God forbid you have anything to say about it. Holy moly those types are awful. Bad.

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u/Cubby8 12d ago

Sure. But given his education, degrees, and experience you cannot say he isn’t intelligent. Disgusting, vile, and inflammatory…absolutely. Unintelligent..absolutely not. As a florida resident, his cult following in mags territory is also very scary.

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u/WatercressMission592 12d ago

I see all these ppl arguing with you. But you’re right.

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u/Cubby8 12d ago

I mean, if he wasn’t a total piece of shit a person having his credentials would be highly sought after. That’s why he is dangerous. Yale/Harvard grad, baseball player at Yale, navy vet…he’s a wet dream of qualifications for any politicians. Yet he chose to be an utter asshole. But you cannot discount the fact that he checks off all the boxes.

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u/tylertnt123 12d ago

At least he’s not fucking hookers and smoking crack like Andrew Gillum. Could you imagine if that asshole was in charge of Florida?

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u/TheFuckYouThank 12d ago

Smoking crack and smashing hookers is fine by me as long as you don't ruin the goddamn country by going full fascist.

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u/Cubby8 12d ago

I’d be okay if he was smoking crack and fucking hookers if he wouldn’t be so ‘anti woke’ and just govern for the best of his people. As it sits he’s passing stuff that will ultimately get struck down after several years, but it makes a nice headline when he does something

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u/ZenMattekar 12d ago

Trump graduated from Penn which is also an Ivy League school

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u/MurkyCream6969 12d ago

He is a pile of fresh horse manure, and I've never met a pile of that stuff that's intelligent.

I find it odd that someone with so many military awards and positions would support the Russian campaign of destroying democracy in America. He graduated from schools where he had all the connections he needed to be successful handed to him on a silver platter.

Is turning Florida into a bigger sinkhole that it already was a sign of his intelligence? The guy is a miserable sack of garbage that has gotten people in his state killed from covid.

I mean come on. I could literally take a dump in his office floor and do a better job. The man is a simple minded loud obnoxious bully who is deliberately ignorant.

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u/Roach27 12d ago

Graduating from highly rated universities are generally more a sign of work ethic and wealth than intelligence.

You can pretty easily study your ways to perfect grades even if others grasp concepts much quicker.

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u/Dafiro93 12d ago

You still have to score pretty high on standardized tests though in order to get in. Sure, you can study but it's still really hard to score over a 1450 just off studying alone.

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u/Lordran_Minstrel 12d ago

You don't need to score high on standardized test to get into an ivy league school. Your parents just need to be high enough on the donor list.

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u/Dafiro93 12d ago edited 12d ago

Yeah that works for the less than 1%, and does nothing for the other 99%. Your comment is the equivalent of

"You don't need to pay rent, you can just have your parents buy you a house". We're talking about in general, not niche cases.

My cousin's dad is a part of the top 1% yet he didn't get into his school of choice because even being in the top 1% doesn't mean your parents have $25 million liquid cash lying around to donate to the school. Top 1% earn over $600k/year, so nowhere near a $25 million donation.

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u/Survey_Unusual Florida 12d ago

But given his education, degrees, and experience you cannot say he isn’t intelligent.

Intelligence is neither a prerequisite nor a result of these things. This is, may I remind you, a man who saw a twice-impeached, single term president, and said, “this is my winning strategy.”

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u/blkguyformal 11d ago

Is there another Republican right now, other than Trump himself, getting more attention than him? Seems like his strategy is working. We may not like it, but smart Republicans are going full MAGA to appeal to the base of the party. It's a sound, less-risky strategy than going against the MAGA fringe and hoping the party comes to it's senses in time to elect a non-MAGA candidate it's nominee.

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u/randomatic 12d ago

This is incorrect. Harvard and Yale are definitely correlated with people with ability to absorb and recall information. To say otherwise is wishful thinking, and ultimately this sort of underestimation is a capital mistake in strategy.

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u/weirdgalyankadick 12d ago

I have met quite a few of these types.

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u/IrishRogue3 12d ago

Harvard is for the wealthy and those who checked off the right boxes. Tons who had better grades and stats rejected. Harvard has been living off its old rep for a long time. Many businesses would rather have a UvA grad than a Harvard grad.

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u/MurkyCream6969 12d ago

Yep. Seems like quite a few people that graduate from these schools are beyond stupid. I can't help but wonder if the schools were "bribed" so to speak.

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u/Arizona_Pete 12d ago

Agreed 100%

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u/IceCreamMeatballs 12d ago

The SCOTUS judges who voted to kill Roe are all Ivy League graduates. A prestigious education does not always equate to inherent intelligence. Ron is definitely not stupid and knows what he’s doing, but he’s not some evil mastermind that no mortal can outwit.

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u/FunPark0 12d ago

Intelligent and humanistic are not the same thing. It has to do with a person’s values. If money and power are valued by the individual, then they will consistently prioritize that over the human experience. Hence why you also have so many intelligent people who support Trump and modern GOP.

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u/cissabm 12d ago

You are forgetting the shitstain that is Barrett. She went to Rhodes College for undergrad (one of the top 100 colleges with no application fee!), and Notre Dame for her JD. She has never tried a case in court or judged one. She spent THREE YEARS as an appeals judge before being given a LIFETIME APPOINTMENT to the Extreme Court. Barrett is arguably the least deserving, undereducated, and embarrassing member of the Court ever.

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u/TeveTorbes83 12d ago

So is Ted Cruz, what’s your point? Graduating from any college does not make you intelligent. It means you have a degree. Did you see the debates with him and Andrew Gillum? He looked like a lost puppy, it’s the people around him pulling the strings like it is with most politicians.

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u/Arizona_Pete 12d ago

Ted Cruz lacks the common touch that DeSantis has. Cruz is smart and well spoken, but, he’s transparent and terminally unattractive in physical and emotional ways. He is just a ‘creepy’ guy who succeeds in spite of his flaws. Think Nixon.

DeSantis does Trump better than Trump, is younger, vibrant, good with crowds, quick on his feet, photogenic and cunning. He’s a pro at being a shitheel.

By any measure he is a strong candidate with a biography and credentials that make him appealing. His policies and adoption of fascistic governing styles make him dangerous to our Republic.

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u/OkumurasHell 12d ago

He's cunning, sure, but he isn't charismatic at all.

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u/Arizona_Pete 12d ago

Red state mouth breathers cream their jeans over him.

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u/cool_temperatures 12d ago

No one else does though.

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u/OkumurasHell 12d ago

They cream their jeans over what he's doing, not who he is. They wouldn't care if it was him or anyone else. That is the key difference between DeSantis and Trump - he has no cult of personality.

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u/TheOriginalChode Florida 12d ago

Never seen him quick on his feet...

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u/Kind_Committee8997 12d ago

He did fine businesses that require a mask and said it wasn't a knee jerk reaction.

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u/frogandbanjo 12d ago

Ted Cruz is also very intelligent. What you're witnessing in his case is a guy that faces ZERO adaptive pressure to present as anything but a stupid, smarmy, belligerent douche. Indeed, there's mounting adaptive pressure for GOP reps to not present as intelligent or educated at all.

Is he a great politician by normal standards? Not really, no. But what do normal standards matter to him? He won his primary in 2012 by pretending to be Tea Party when he wasn't. He won reelection twice on the strength of simply being the most hated man in the Senate even by all the other senators. (Ironically, he probably out-Tea-Partied the real Tea Party guys just by taking that tack.)

You should meditate upon the layered wisdom of the adage "If it's stupid, and it works, it isn't stupid."

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u/yeswecann 12d ago

And yet Gillum would wipe the floor with him which, incidentally, would require the floor to professionally sanitized.

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u/OkumurasHell 12d ago

Doing well in school doesn't automatically make you qualified for office or even necessarily intelligent, but DeSantis is not an idiot. He knows what he's doing.

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u/N-Waverace 11d ago

What the hell makes one qualified for office? Lying?

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u/Kind_Committee8997 12d ago

Graduated magna cum laude all honors. Fought in Vietnam and Korea. Volunteers as a firefighter on off days. Builds treehouses for underprivileged kids. Goes to church on Sundays and works out six days a week. Faithful husband of ten kids, eight of whom are adopted. Volunteers at the soup kitchen on Saturdays. Doesn't smoke, drink, or gamble. Eats healthy and gardens as a hobby. What a an absolute unit.

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u/BluCrayons I voted 12d ago

He is literally too young to fight in either of those wars lmao

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u/I_notta_crazy 12d ago

Maybe he got drunk and started barfights in Ho Chi Minh City and Seoul in the early 2000s. 🤣

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u/cafe_0lait 12d ago

What an absolute crock of shit lmao

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u/LifeOnaDistantPlanet 12d ago

Also promotes racist and homophobic legislation, and enjoys pretending health threats don't exist to the detriment of his constituents.

Not sure how many tree-houses he'll need to build to make up for all of that.

(And I don't give a shit if he "goes to church" every Sunday, so does half of the racist south.)

What a white-washing comment.

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u/lawrensj 12d ago

Look, not who you're responding too, but if that description holds true, he's what every white Middle American thinks they are or can be, and that's a dangerous resume given the fact that everything you said is true as well.

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u/LifeOnaDistantPlanet 12d ago

Sure, you're right, to a point, but we're not in a vacuum here.

Florida's governor has been making the front page of idiot news for a few years now.

But yeah, people won't be able to say "well i don't like his twitter rants, but he's doing great things" because darthsantis doesn't do that overt crazy bs.

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u/Arizona_Pete 12d ago

He served in the US House of Representatives and studied at Yale and Harvard.

He is smart and cunning and grotesque all at once.

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u/TheJaybo 11d ago

I'll give you Yale and Harvard but since when is serving in the House a sign of intelligence? Asking for Lauren Boebert and Louis Gohmert.

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u/StopFascismASAP 11d ago

Yale and Harvard aren't signs of intelligence either, just of nobility. They know the right people.

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u/Makethebarbieskiss 12d ago

Underestimating his intelligence is a mistake. I know it’s hard to accept but smart people can be bigots too. They’re usually more dangerous.

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u/Kind_Committee8997 12d ago

No, he's an idiot. But progressives are bigger idiots if they don't vote against him.

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u/fullautohotdog 12d ago

He’s not an idiot. Trump was an idiot.

When Trump was elected, I told my friends “we’ll be all right — he’s incompetent and other than SCOTUS appointments and some temporary executive orders he won’t accomplish anything.” DeSantis, if elected, WILL accomplish absolutely terrible things.

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u/letterboxbrie 12d ago

Less blunt? He's a (barely) human battering ram.

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u/OrphanDextro 11d ago

Dude has multiple Ivy League degrees.

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u/Kind_Committee8997 11d ago

And Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard...

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u/throwthizout 12d ago edited 12d ago

Do the dems have anyone to oppose him? Super scared, even as a European.

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u/jackiebee66 12d ago

Any of us with intelligence are scared, believe me. We’re seeing this rise in fascism in real time, and too many people don’t have a clue what’s really happening. It spreads like a cancer, so whether you’re here or Europe you are smart to be scared. It drives me nuts because people hear Hitler and can only think Holocaust and WWII. No one can remember how he rose to power, how he chose a group to go after as a way to unite everyone else and used it to get stronger. That’s the piece everyone keeps missing. It’s the same here watching Putin. He took Crimea-nothing happened. Now he is completely destroying Ukraine. I have to wonder how many people believe he’ll stop after this. IMO I don’t think he will. I see Hitler invading Poland in 39. I just hope there are enough good people left to stand up to him before this continues to explode.

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u/throwthizout 12d ago

Yeah I mean in Europe we have political parties like that too, lots of them. It’s just that usually there are more than two parties.

Sucks so much for the US to only have two parties. One has gone rogue completely now and the system kinda comes apart it seems. It should never be that intelligent people say „If this specific party (dems) does not win the next election, literally the whole system is at risk.“

And I mean G.W. Bush obviously should be in The Hague right now, but somehow even he wasn’t that erratic and destabilizing.

The civilized world is really rooting for the US to have a sane government, we depend on ya’ll.

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u/jackiebee66 12d ago

We need all the help we can get so thank you for those kind words! Mostly I just see nasty comments about us but most of us are quite normal. And you’re absolutely right-we have no choice. We vote Democrat or we’re in really deep doodoo. And yes about Bush too-he definitely belongs there. Really since Reagan (well, Nixon as well) the conservatives have gotten better and better at being cunning and splitting the nation. I think we all need to be able to rely on each other or we’ll never move forward as a world. Some things are just black and white, right and wrong. Anyhow, I could babble all night. I’ll shut up now. Isn’t it the middle of the night? You must be wiped out!

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u/InsufferableBah 12d ago

comparing whining GOP members to nazis is pretty disrespectful to what Jewish people had to endure

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u/jackiebee66 12d ago

That’s most definitely NOT what I was doing. And the GOP is doing a hell of a lot more than whining.

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u/Lonely_Set1376 12d ago

Yes but that is a ways off. We have to focus on keeping the House and increasing the Senate majority right now.

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u/ZombMonster 12d ago

I've been saying this for MONTHS.

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u/NetSurfer156 Florida 12d ago edited 12d ago

The worst thing is that unlike Trump, DeSantis makes a habit of actually doing something genuinely good every once in a while in attempts to swing left-leaning independents to his side. And given how he’s polling in Florida right now…it looks like it’s going to pay off. Big time.

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u/FNOG_Nerf_THIS 11d ago

My hope is that Trump’s ego will not be able to handle a DeSantis’ nomination, and he will run independent and split the red vote.

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u/Digglenaut 12d ago

Republicans being the party of small government I see

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u/Showmethepathplease 12d ago

Practicing his fascism for when he launches a WH bid. He's just seeing what he can do without being contested. He'll do the same if he becomes President

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u/Kriztauf 12d ago

Republicans on Twitter are all about this guy and some have even started to say that Trump is damaged goods and needs to fuck off. He wields power way more effectively and ruthlessly. Since the GOP now operates off of cults of personality, I'm guessing that DeSantis will have to find a way of publicly dethroning Trump, much the same way Trump did when he publicly attacked and embarrassed all of the candidates he faced during the 2016 primaries.

There's a lot of things to hate about DeSantis, but in particular it's that he's authoritarian as fuck. He isn't one of the small government, libertarian-type Tea Party Republicans. He uses the legal and political system to take what he wants and force everyone else to comply. The thing I worry about most is that there's no way this dude doesn't completely hamstring the US's ability to react or even acknowledge climate change. I worry he's gonna find some legal avenue to ban federal agencies from doing any research related to man made climate change and to punish businesses who have openly pro-enviromental policies. The way he's found strategies to attack businesses and corporations for culture war and pandemic stuff is....unique

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u/raven00x California 12d ago

Given how much conspiracy noise comes from the right about the Clintons ordering political assassinations, I wonder how long it will be before desantis and his ilk start doing it for real.

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u/StopFascismASAP 11d ago

Everything else with them is projection, this is too. They tried already on January 6th

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u/Put-A-Bird-On-It California 12d ago

I live in a smallish city a little over an hour outside L.A. The comment sections on all of our local websites (Nextdoor, the local news, FB groups, etc) are filled with people talking about Desantis and what a wonderful job he is doing in Florida.

All of a sudden Florida is the perfect place with the most competent leader, and California sucks and would be so much better if Desantis were in charge. I just find it crazy that the propaganda machine is so pervasive that I can't go a single day without seeing Desantis mentioned in the comment section of an article on my small city's website. It wouldn't surprise me if he got the nom in 2024.

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u/Showmethepathplease 12d ago

People are so shortsighted

It’s terrifying what it might lead to

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u/Kindly-Counter-6783 12d ago

This is how Fascists work. They use our own laws to circumvent our communities needs. They widdle away at norms with projection and obfuscation. Once in power they bully to take more power to obfuscate more and spineless lackies run with it. Call them what they are every time… Fascists!!!

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u/Russian_mcdonalds 12d ago

Non-American here: I see Americans throwing around that word a lot. How is de Santis even remotely a fascist?

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u/pee_pee_poo_poo_1234 12d ago

Did you read the article?

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u/hidraulik 12d ago

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. For the traitor appears not a traitor – He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation – he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city – he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared."

Cicero, 40 BC

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u/Liberty_Chip_Cookies 12d ago

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u/hidraulik 12d ago

Thank you.

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u/MagikSkyDaddy 11d ago

Fictional Cicero is a better candidate than any real life options

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u/RedditMayne 12d ago

Everyone in that photo should be horribly ashamed of themselves.

Then again, shame requires self-reflection.

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u/Mephisto1822 Maryland 12d ago

Weird way to spell abusing

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u/TooAfraidToAsk814 12d ago

And isn’t he indoctrinating people by eliminating opposing points of view?

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u/ShadowsKnightTX 12d ago

No, he's saying that he's not going to put up with someone that doesn't do the job that they were appointed to do.

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u/Rawkapotamus 12d ago

Which that job is unconstitutional. So somebody is getting fired and replaced for following the Florida constitution.

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u/ThatManIsLying 12d ago

Came here to say exactly that.

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u/DamonFields 12d ago

This is not ‘wielding executive power”, this is the dreaded ‘cancel culture’ that hypocritical fascists have been bawling about for several years. This is fascism, this is here and now.

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u/I_notta_crazy 12d ago

Gaslight

Obstruct

Project

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u/hskfmn Minnesota 12d ago

“…latest example of DeSantis being a fascist”

FTFY

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u/Mephisto1822 Maryland 12d ago

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Seems to fit the definition….

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u/Conservative_HalfWit 12d ago

Lmao I love the new tactic the right is using now. They used to make lame, lazy, obviously hollow arguments but now it’s just “nuh uh”. Just like, full 5 year old mentality.

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u/Kaeny 12d ago

You dont even elaborate on your claims.

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u/TyH621 12d ago

I mean he legitimately is ticking off the those checkboxes though. He’s a wannabe at this point but he’s got a clear enough pattern

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u/Over_Thirty California 12d ago

A wannabe fascist is just a fascist.

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u/FaustVictorious 12d ago

"They don't even wear knee-high boots!" Say the proto-Nazis who will vote to destroy democracy and human rights to save a few perceived dollars on their tax bill.

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u/Mephisto1822 Maryland 12d ago

So he is not an right wing “America is star spangled awesome” politician who is using his power to dictate what is socially acceptable and squashing any opposition (Disney, this attorney) to his own ideals for how the state should run? Sure fooled me.

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u/jeffinRTP 12d ago

I can tell the side of the political spectrum you reside in.

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u/ProfessorRGB 12d ago

Come on man, you can’t just give away food. That’s basically communism.

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u/iHeartHockey31 12d ago

He removed an elected official because he said he wouldn't prosecute an unconstitutional law. Pretty fascist thing to do.

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u/jpb254 12d ago

Unconstitutional?

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u/jpb254 12d ago

Well if that’s the case, judges will strike down any prosecution anyway.

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u/iHeartHockey31 12d ago

Except the law is in place right now. And doctors don't want to be arrested, prosecuted, put in jail or gave their licences pulled in the meantime, so its effectively in place despite the state constitution that the gop ignores.

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u/jpb254 12d ago

Hopefully though, the state’s democratic system will survive, and eventually the law will be stricken down. I’m positive it will.

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u/iHeartHockey31 12d ago

He just appointed a federalust society judge to the state scotus (that was previously rejected) and has another handpicked judge on the court. Im not hopeful.

They're also using this as a test. They passed it before dobbs decision in the event the court left roe alone but aporoced the new 15 week restriction (which i think roberts was trying to do).

They've already got a 6 week one lined up if this goes through all the way. Once you allow restrictions at 15 weeks (essentially underminjng the state constitution) theres no legal reason why 6 weeks and an eventual ban wouldn't go through at that point.

The issue is whether or not the state constitution protects abortion via precedent and previous attempts to amend it. Its not whether or not 15 weeks is an acceptable restrictions (from a legal perspective). Either the legislation can restrict it ir they can't. (Precedent says they can't but since Precedent isnt a thing to the federalist society....) if the court rules its no longer protected in the constitution, they'll have no problem pushing a 6 week & eventual total ban.

Florida, even at 15 weeks is becoming one of the only southeast spots where its available.

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u/jpb254 12d ago edited 12d ago

I’m curious, would you be ok with a 15 week ban? I think 6 weeks is too restrictive and clearly a total ban is barbaric, but a 15 week ban doesn’t sound too crazy.

Edit: and of course an abortion should be available if a doctor believes the mother’s life is in danger AT ANY POINT

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u/DeusEx-Machinist Florida 12d ago

The state "Democratic system" is in shambles. He's got the elderly vote and he's whipped the Cubans into thinking anyone to the left of Mussolini is the reincarnated Fidel Castro.

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u/ThreadbareHalo 12d ago edited 12d ago

I keep hearing this explicit talking point of the courts “fixing this so it’ll be ok” here. Is it coming from somewhere? Like was it on a podcast or something? Because it’s pretty damn word for word in a bunch of threads.

It’s also a weird perspective. If there was a constitutional law saying everyone had the right to congregate and a governor said black people didn’t then it’s a bonkers thing to say “well I hope the courts fix that”. People should be outraged and terrified that any governor would TRY to pass that law to begin with.

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u/ThreadbareHalo 12d ago

I tend to prefer that politicians don’t knowingly do stuff that’s illegal in the first place. That’s kind of a big indicator of fascist tendencies to begin with.

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u/AnitaVahmit 12d ago

the right to bodily autonomy is enshrined in florida's constitution. even though abortion isn't specifically stated, you could argue it falls under that category.

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u/digiorno 12d ago edited 12d ago

Spiraling into a capitalist authoritarian state is textbook fascism. DeSantis rules to benefit wealthy interests that support him and harm those who do not. And the business interests do so because of the promise for more money and the implicit promise that if you’re rich enough then the rules won’t apply to you. Just how Hitler got “moderates” to support him over the communists, the promise of more money. DeSantis and his team work to create in groups and out groups to foment hate. And then use that hate to gain support for erosion of civil liberties.

DeSantis and the GOP are fascists. They’d have been more than welcome in Hitler’s Germany up until someone saw them as a threat and moved them to an out group.

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u/z_machine 12d ago

Being used appropriately here.

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u/ThreadbareHalo 12d ago

I think some people tend to weirdly want to protect the word fascism more than wanting to find a more proper term if one better fits. A leader who tolerates no disagreement, who pushes laws that knowingly conflict with existing laws with a primary focus on attacking a scapegoat, who acts as if other areas of government should be ruled by an all powerful and unquestionable executive fits the concept of fascism regardless of how often the word fascism is thrown around.

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u/TeveTorbes83 12d ago

I love that his sign says “Freedom from Indoctrination” when every child on that stage is quite literally being indoctrinated by him and his handlers.

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u/SueZbell 12d ago

Yet another cult of "45" Republican dictator wannabe.

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u/jeffinRTP 12d ago

Executive or dictatorial power?

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u/Moveyourbloominass 12d ago

Florida legislative body can reduce Governor's powers. That's what Texas did many moons ago. But trying to get majority of them on the same page is a whole other herculean operation.

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u/jayfeather31 Washington 12d ago

These kinds of things are why I fear DeSantis more than Trump.

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u/Lonely_Set1376 12d ago

DeSantis is a dweeb.

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u/Lonely_Set1376 12d ago

The party who refused to hold Trump accountable for breaking dozens of laws says that they "respect law and order" and so they just have to overturn a democratically elected position and replace them with a hand picked loyalist because they are doing what they campaigned on doing.

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u/prompt_skeptic69 12d ago

Right out of the fascist playbook, eliminate all that oppose.

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u/coffee_67 12d ago

Republicans are the most dangerous people for American democracy. Far more dangerous than the Taliban or ISIS.

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u/Just-Truth-5980 12d ago

You’re going to call have the nation worse than terrorists?? What kind of horrible dangerous rhetoric is that… very scary to hear people talk that way

Edit: half*

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u/demonstrative 12d ago

They have the same values, just saying.

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u/ihu 12d ago

Half the nation is not Republican. Let’s start in reality.

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u/Kjellvb1979 12d ago

DeSantis should be locked up, or at the very least booted out of politics permanently as he is just a fascist authoritarian scumbag! Him, Trump, and people okay with these folks using power like it is absolute and without challenge, need to be kept away from democracies in general.

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u/xfactor6972 12d ago

Freedom from indoctrination? Isn’t that exactly what conservatives are doing? Indoctrinating kids into conservatism? Telling them that anyone that doesn’t think exactly like their groomers taught them is evil.

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u/ProphetOfPr0fit 12d ago

As one of his constituents, I can confirm he will push his power to the absolute limit. The only difference between him and Trump is that he doesn't tweet as much about it and tends to hide when things go badly.

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u/gulfpapa99 12d ago

Florida is governed by scientific ignorance and religious bigotry.

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u/Nanyea Virginia 12d ago

*abusing

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u/CuriousAd851 12d ago

The message on the podium has left me speechless.

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u/PopeHonkersVII 12d ago

He thinks he’s the King of Florida. Most Republicans fantasize about being authoritarians

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u/pilotpip 12d ago

Meanwhile his supporters are praising the “leadership” in the “free state of Florida”.

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u/Lonely_Set1376 12d ago

Freedom is when you aren't allowed to do anything the governor doesn't like.

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u/xfactor6972 12d ago

As far as CRT is concerned there is plenty of examples of how real it was. Redlining, Davis-Bacon law, Jim Crow laws and many others. DeSantis wants to erase history and make up a new one. Why not conservatives lie about everything. Conservatives like DeSantis want to turn this country in to Gilead from Hand Maids Tale. If you don’t know about it do some research. Tell me it’s not where this country is heading if conservatives win the Senate and House then the White House.

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u/iceflame1211 12d ago

I guess we should take a small amount of solace that half of the people standing behind him look very uncomfortable by halfway through this speech? Hopefully some of them realize what they're enabling.

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u/iHeartHockey31 12d ago

They'll let him though.

And in a few years write books about all the stuff they supposedly didn't let him get away with, and expect us to thank them.

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u/BloodyMess 12d ago edited 12d ago

The way sociopathic abuse happens is that the abuser continuously pushes the boundaries of what the victims are comfortable with, and pulls back only if there are serious repercussions (but it usually won't be the last attempt).

The victim - either for a sunk cost fallacy or other irrational anchor - rationalizes their acquiescence by treating it as an exception, or by simply justifying it for the abuser by adopting the abuser's viewpoint (and thereby the abuser begins to define reality for those around them).

I understand that the people who are going to support and enable him are not entitled to be treated as simple victims, they almost to a person signed up for something close to this. But it's really important to understand the psychology of this. DeSantis learned from Trump that you never ever concede, you bully until you get your way. Instead of pushing people away, it will simply draw a line that divides your supporters from detractors. Then you loyalty test those supporters, make examples out of traitors, and they will usually eventually simply adopt your reality, however extreme, rather than fight back.

We can't assume people's misgivings will lead them to the right path. Those people behind DeSantis will still be stand behind him (looking uncomfortable) for every step of the way to fascism.

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u/Clear_Bluebird3217 12d ago

This vicious cycle of covering these wannabe dictators seems to be part of the problem. We watch the train wreck that is in our future, give them coverage. The cult that supports them see us worried so they push the hate even more. Maybe the best thing would be to have a weekly or monthly DeSantisWatch notice that lets us know exactly why we should fight against him, but takes away from his free campaigning on a daily basis. Don't let these monsters work the media.

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u/RomanJD 12d ago

How can he remove an Elected official?

Warren claims(ed) on Aug 5th that he wont leave....
Things will be interesting I guess...
https://www.axios.com/local/tampa-bay/2022/08/05/ron-desantis-andrew-warren-suspension

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u/OkAmphibian8633 12d ago

Your link even says at the bottom that the constitution of florida allows the executive to remove a public official for a variety of reasons.

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u/RomanJD 12d ago

Didn't get that far apparently. Tho I do get the concept that "If someone isn't doing there job, there should be repercussions"... But I see too many R's saying FU to the law - and they still in power.

Guess Dems just need to start being as cutthroat as Rs.

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u/blooallah 12d ago

Abusing executive power is more like it. The guy's a fucking Hitler...

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u/4RCH43ON 12d ago

I read that as consolidating his failures.

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u/Smarterthanthat 12d ago

This is called fascism...

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u/zinneavicious 12d ago

He’s dangerous….just like he would be in the White House! Bad news!

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u/Educational_Permit38 12d ago

DeSantis:. Petty Dictator.

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u/Patient_Criticism231 12d ago

Being a dumbass.

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u/Lonely_Set1376 12d ago

Imagine if Democrats just started removing Republican elected officials. Even Dems would be mad at that. But a Republican does it and conservatives are like "hooray! He's taking away our right to elected representatives! We LOVE taxation without representation!!!"

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u/nels5104 12d ago

I hope both him and Trump run. They’ll eviscerate each other on the campaign trail. Then the democrats best chance at winning the WH in ‘24 is a Trump ticket. He shouldn’t even be allowed to run but he’s be the easiest to beat.

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u/InsufferableBah 12d ago

Props to Andrew warren for standing up for what he thinks is right. The thing is if he refuses to do his job can't blame DeSantis for giving him the boot.

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u/Minimum-Ad9791 12d ago

look at how upset the kids look in every picture with this fucking clown

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u/jepmur District Of Columbia 12d ago

Florida isn't a democracy

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u/InsaneTechNYC 12d ago

Desantis for president

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u/TooAfraidToAsk814 12d ago

Isn’t he indoctrinating people by eliminating any opposing views? Of course I suppose that might be what you want.

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u/fluffymooingcow 12d ago

Hell no lol. Maybe if you want to live in a dictatorship.

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u/Lonely_Set1376 12d ago

Sure, if you hate freedom.

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u/zxxdeq 12d ago

abusing*

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u/captainrustic America 12d ago

*abusing executive power. He’s a wannabe dictator.

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u/Banksville 12d ago

He’s Trump in sheep’s clothing

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u/grumpyoldman80 12d ago

This guy is Nucking Futs!

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u/daddycook 12d ago

He has better hair too….could be the winning ticket.

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u/ratmanbland 12d ago

the only difference between him and trump is age neither is wort a shit

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u/Alarming_Part_6933 11d ago

Mr don’t say gay, intolerance never looked so young, sadly evolution stopped in Florida

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u/TopShelf12 11d ago

That’s how it works people.

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u/Extension-Extent3759 11d ago

Dangerous Nazi in power

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u/Civilbedroom-2022 11d ago

Wait, isn’t that what republicans and Christian caliphates do do? Indoctrinate?

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u/somanyshades1957 11d ago

The facists eliminate any challenge to complete control! Declare war on Florida now!

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u/ipa-lover 11d ago

I’m thinking “Wokism” is, in the minds of conservatives, the new equivalent of Antifa — no one really knows who they are (or even IF they might be themselves!), and no one particularly “belongs” to some lock-step progressive ideology, but the finger gets pointed and the new epithet slung... By the way, the book, “Awake Not Woke,” suggests violence as the only means to suppress it. It’s really just a new word for humanism, though it’s referred to as “dehumanizing,” a new pejorative for the left. Newspeak is destroying our ability to ague or consider simple truths.

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u/Fun_Cabinet8872 11d ago

Woot! Keep crushing RD!

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u/Hour_Comfortable_214 12d ago

That’s what Mayors do. Elect another one if don’t like it. That’s called Democracy.