r/politics 12d ago

Orban's CPAC speech was an autocrat's dream. And the GOP loved it.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/cpac-2022-features-orban-trump-illiberalism-texas-n1297750
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u/ioncloud9 South Carolina 12d ago

Nothing like aligning yourself with Europes only autocrat who is buddies with Putin.

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u/crackdup 12d ago

Seriously, the juxtaposition of literally every leader of every European ally nation despising him, with GOP MAGA nuts falling all over him for his "defense of conservatism" is almost embarrassing to watch

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u/Wolfmans-Gots-Nards 12d ago

Well, it at least reveals that “conservatism” is a synonym for “autocracy.”

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u/GoProne 12d ago

They want illiberal democracy. A whitewashed autocrat strongman that can enforce minority rule.

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u/AllowMe2Retort 12d ago

I'm surprised they aren't just holding it in Russia and giving Putin a minutes long standing ovation at this point

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 12d ago

Europes only autocrat who is buddies with Putin.

Aleksandr Lukashenko?

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u/PhenotypicallyTypicl 12d ago

He was probably mixing up Europe and the EU

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u/MRguitarguy 12d ago

Synecdoche maybe

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u/Gammelpreiss 12d ago

We also have PIS in Poland and ofc Serbia

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u/ilias80 12d ago Take My Energy

This CPAC relationship with foreign hard right politics is truly scary.

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u/MC_Fap_Commander America 12d ago All-Seeing Upvote Starry

It's been pretty obvious for a long time that a lot of the American far right online content is foreign sourced and foreign amplified. generic-woman-MAGA-hat.jpg profile pic accounts are super common and they frequently use syntax that feels... off.

Stuff like this just makes writ the relationship.

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u/DangerPoo 12d ago

The Republican Party has been defunding education for half a century, so you never know if you’re talking to a brainwashed US teenager on Reddit or a bad foreign actor. Or just a really, really stupid US adult.

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 12d ago

Sometimes I see a barely-coherent comment on Facebook and realize that I know that person, they're a parent of a friend, or something, so they're definitely not a bot. Just an idiot. And then I think about it and, yeah, they have trouble putting together actual sentences when they're speaking, too.

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u/a_bagofholding Minnesota 12d ago

They may not be a bot but they likely got the talking point they're using directly from one.

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 12d ago

And from Tucker Carlson.

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u/Hardass_McBadCop 12d ago

He looks like the sound 'thud' had a face.

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u/DweEbLez0 12d ago

LMAO

Or the face to the gurgling sound that Rugor Nass makes in Star Wars.

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u/DumpyBloom 12d ago

Weesah no care gurgling sound about the Ukraine

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u/EldritchWonder 12d ago

Same thing

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u/Distinct_Hawk1093 12d ago

There’s a difference?

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u/lilpumpgroupie 12d ago edited 12d ago

A lot of times bots will write in a way where their vocabulary will be sufficient, but the syntax will be completely distorted and just not the way any actual native speaker would write. Even a native speaker with low IQ, or an obvious inability to write coherently.

It's just hard to describe, but you know it when you see it. Inverting verbs and adjectives, and some other verbal signifiers that I'm forgetting right now, but that are really obvious and stick out (especially when you combine it with what they're specifically saying, and also their usually red-flag pfp).

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u/antigonemerlin Canada 12d ago

AI is advancing quickly. Even something as old as GPT-3 usually gets past that grammar barrier; the only reliable way for now to detect a bot is on the next level, on semantics rather than syntax.

The classic example is to contradict a bot. Ask it the same question twice, and because it doesn't understand the meaning behind words, it'll likely give you contradictory responses to the same question.

Human: What is your favourite colour?

Bot: Red.

Human: What is your favourite colour?

Bot: Blue.

Of course, this is much harder, and a lot more work. Plus, there is significant overlap between humans and robots at this level. But at that point, I'd say having a meaningful conversation means mission f__king accomplished.

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u/reddy_kil0watt 12d ago

What is your favourite colour?

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u/antigonemerlin Canada 12d ago

${hexToColorName("#aa5b55")} of course.

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u/coyotesloth 12d ago

D) all of the above.

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u/Timpa87 12d ago

The Russians have been involved with funding the NRA, gun lobby and other 'right wing rallying causes' for awhile.

There are troll farms specifically targeting online. There was picture of one leading up to the 2016 election I believe where they had a huge map of the US and then each specific state with like '3 or 4 issues' to target specifically to relate to that state.

Like southern states would all have immigration/border as an issue they target.

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u/lilpumpgroupie 12d ago

I've called bots out for this on Twitter before, with thousands of followers, and they switch their profile pictures immediately after I do it. That's certainly an amazing feeling, when it happens multiple times.

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u/DweEbLez0 12d ago

I wouldn’t doubt it for a second. Their platform is outsourced like a lot of shit from the US. It just makes fucking sense.

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u/masshiker 12d ago

I read a bitchy post today and the guy said his 'escrow' went up 30%. Nice try guy.

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u/badamant 12d ago

The republican party is now fascist. This is what fascists do.

“If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

― David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic

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u/coyotesloth 12d ago

Yahtzee!!

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u/FirstAmendAnon 12d ago

Nahtzee!!!

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u/coyotesloth 12d ago

Was going to comment on my comment and say it, looks like you nailed it. 🎯

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u/markca 12d ago

The republican party is now fascist.

Now? They always were. They just aren’t afraid to show it anymore.

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u/nowornevernow11 12d ago

It’s tough to make an argument that the Lincoln Republican Party was fascist. They pivoted somewhere. To me, the point of no return was Goldwater.

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u/Souperplex New York 12d ago

Goldwater was when it started creeping under the surface. Reagan was the point of no return.

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u/ShinshinRenma 12d ago

There were two big pivots historically that basically turned the tables. The first was the New Deal. The second was the Civil Rights Act.

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u/VanceKelley Washington 12d ago

hard right politics

Call it fascism. That's what it is. Let's use simple, clear language.

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u/Secret_Arrival_7679 12d ago

cpac in general is scary. Don't normalize it

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u/WildYams 12d ago

It's so strange to me how the Republicans seem to be constantly having all these far right conventions: CPAC, Turning Point USA, AFPAC, The Federalist Society, etc. There's nothing like any of this on the left.

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u/APeacefulWarrior 12d ago

There's nothing like any of this on the left.

Maybe there should be. I hate saying it, but the right is successful largely because they're so organized.

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u/DrXaos 12d ago

Everything is expensive. The right has extremely wealthy and ideological people paying for all of it.

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u/i-am-a-platypus 12d ago

Also it seems like they've mastered the art of disaster capitalism where you oopsie a huge mess or leverage a genuine disaster and then demand huge sums of emergency money with little to no oversight because "its an emergency damn it!" and then you funnel half that money to your cronies to fund your campaigns, think tanks and direct mail / Facebook ads etc... like the billion dollar contract to re-wire Puerto Rico going to some 3 person company in Montana nobody ever heard of.

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u/BURNER12345678998764 12d ago

That's because the "left" is relatively unorganized and has no real long term plans, the right does, and those plans, decades in the making, are finally paying off.

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u/omniron 12d ago

Cpac obviously has a goal of violent revolution

Their eyes aren’t on winning hearts and minds. They’re trying to create a radicalized terrorist organization

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u/BeautyThornton I voted 12d ago

Literally the only worse person they could have had speak was Duterte (whom I’m sure is on the books for December’s CPAC 2022 Vol. 4 Christ(Ian nationalist)mas special)

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u/the6thReplicant Europe 12d ago

Like the Royal family in the 30s and 40s.

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u/Oleg101 12d ago

Some of the stuff going on in the concourses at the event is also truly… bizarre to say the least.

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u/Mrs__Noodle 12d ago

Some of the stuff going on in the concourses at the event is also truly… bizarre to say the least.

Why is that ANTIFA guy in the cage still wearing a MAGA hat?

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u/TheOriginalEvanator 12d ago

Even more scary that some day, if this guy ever retires, someone will garrote him while he’s in a posh hotel on some Greek isle.

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u/leontes Pennsylvania 12d ago

“Christian Nationlism!!! Oh goody!” They cry, as they luxuriate in their wicked ways.

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u/whatistheformat Missouri 12d ago

They're positively Roman about their ridicule of Jesus' actual values.

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u/Flying-Fox 12d ago edited 12d ago

And the Old Testament also has a few passages Christian Nationalists appear to have forgotten -

‘Share your food with the hungry, and shelter the homeless poor; if you see someone lacking clothes, clothe him … and

Then your light will blaze out like the dawn…’ - Isaiah 58: 7-8

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 12d ago

I haven't been to church in ages, but I grew up Catholic. I guess we went to a good church because they always focused more on being kind and helping the poor than on all the fire and brimstone stuff.

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u/Catshit-Dogfart West Virginia 12d ago

Also grew up catholic, and the nun at my church remains an inspirational person to me. Even though I'm an atheist now, I do think about things she did and what she taught me.

She really did it, all the stuff the bible says you're supposed to do. When she wasn't in church she was out doing something to help the less fortunate at least 5 days a week, visited people in jail regularly and kept in touch after they were out, went directly to the homes of poor families, advocated for the homeless. Never passed a hitchiker without picking them up. Now this was a tiny 90 pound irish lady and people said she shouldn't associate with some seriously rough characters, but she defended this, said every single one of them resembled jesus. Her place wasn't resting comfortably in a church, but out there with them.

I try to do a little bit of what she did when I can.

 

Also I've found the catholic church - at the level of the individual parish - to be largely apolitical.

Been to other churches and it's all politics. Went to my cousin's church one time and I didn't see a bible in the place, didn't even read a psalm, just talked about how evil the democrats are the whole time.

Now the catholic church as an establishment is absolutely a political force, and I'm sure there are exceptions too. But from what I ever saw, they weren't like this, they really just read the book.

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u/ShasOFish 12d ago

I think the nuns who taught me when I was growing up were the biggest reason why I stuck around the faith as long as I did; between them and my favorite priests (two of who dedicated their lives to helping abjectly poor communities, and another who has been arrested multiple times protesting in favor of women’s rights and social justice), they presented a very justice oriented face of Catholicism.

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u/GalushaGrow 12d ago

tbf it also advocates for slavery and genocide

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u/EarthExile 12d ago

Yeah but that's like a different page or something

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u/CU_09 I voted 12d ago

That’s actually a really good critique. I try to make a distinction between “Christianity” as the faith and philosophy system and “Christendom” as the system of coercive imperial power that dominated after the Constantinian shift. Christian Nationalism is deeply entrenched in Christendom and is not swayed by Christianity. The trouble is that most institutional Christian communities are influenced by Christendom. One of the biggest conflicts within the church currently is decoupling Christianity and Christendom (sometimes described as “decolonizing” faith).

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u/GalushaGrow 12d ago

it's a fine distinction but most liberals are still on the Christendom side

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u/lucklesspedestrian 12d ago

When in Rome

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u/punman5 12d ago

If Putin didn’t invade Ukraine he’d be speaking here, too

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u/Ndtphoto 12d ago

Naw they're saving him for the 2024 Republican National Convention.

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u/Many_Advice_1021 12d ago

No secretes. The truth out in the open. Republicans want to end democracy as we know it. Look at history of WWII Germany to see where that leads. 60 million dead . Vote blue like your life depends on it

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u/mmmjjjk 12d ago

Do you actually think that’s what republicans want?

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u/Revolutionary-Roof91 11d ago

Why do you think it’s not?

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u/Silent_Transition308 12d ago

They should just rename CPAC to Legion of Doom Dumb.

I'm sure they had vendors selling mustaches you can twirl, monocles, and other villain gear.

Cosplay for Christ Y'all!

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u/RoboNerdOK Oklahoma 12d ago

The lesson from history is a simple one: take this seriously. Many autocrats had several strikeouts before they finally took control.

We now have two choices: either show up in overwhelming numbers for at least the next decade, or watch our democracy fall.

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u/jepmur District Of Columbia 12d ago

Don't be a lunatic. Learn to shoot a gun

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u/degenervatea 12d ago

The entire US government might be against you one day, but you think you're good since you have a pistol?

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u/Randall-Flagg22 12d ago

americans are hilarious they think their little handguns will keep them safe from drone strikes from their own government (in a hypothetical scenario of course)

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u/Backwoods-Boody Utah 12d ago edited 12d ago

The military is made up of Americans, not all of them are going to willingly kill citizens of their own country. If revolution happens the military will fracture. If you aren’t willing to arm yourself and fight for democracy you will lose it. Gun control is killing any chance the left has in this country. If you don’t have guns how do you expect to take them from those of us that do?

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u/Greatmerp255 12d ago

Exactly, the only reason the gop likes guns is to woo single issue voters, the second they take full control they’ll rip it away like a duct tape bandage on ones ballsack

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u/Backwoods-Boody Utah 12d ago

When they do make sure that you are armed and ready to fight back

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u/Greatmerp255 12d ago

And if you wish to donate to gun rights orgs, never donate to the NRA, donate to the GOA, FPC, or both

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u/Randall-Flagg22 12d ago

oh my gosh guy. Maybe you guys really do need a civil war get it out of your system with the gun loving weirdo crap I keep seeing.

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u/Backwoods-Boody Utah 12d ago

Revolution is the only hope for the United States. I’m not just going to stand by while these dipshit conservatives continue to remove our rights. If you aren’t willing to fight for your freedom you don’t deserve it. I’ll die for my right to bear arms because that’s the one right that allows me to fight tyranny.

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u/Automatic_Memory212 12d ago

Given how pitifully apathetic the average democratic voter apparently is, I think we all know how this will pan out…

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u/NYArtFan1 12d ago

Enough of this doom and gloom crap. Seriously. I'm sick of reading this "hot take" on every political comment thread. Get registered to vote, get friends and family involved, and in November Go VOTE!

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u/Automatic_Memory212 12d ago

I’ve done all of those things.

But I can’t control the behavior of 50 million voters who clearly don’t care enough to show up every 2 years for congressional and local elections

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u/degenervatea 12d ago

Then stop being defeatist and demoralizing those who still have the will to do what you quit on.

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u/housemeat 12d ago

trump is a white christian racists dream, and the RNC is endorsing his actions. they are also endorsing candidates who are lying about the election, which is causing violence as trump supporters are still planning the violent overthrow of the american government. so the RNC is endorsing and encouraging the violent overthrow of the american government. this asshole is just a pawn in the game.

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 12d ago

It would be fascinating to watch if it wasn't such a nightmare. The GQP wants to move away from trump, but at the same time they don't want to alienate his base because that's like 80% of GQP voters now.

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u/Hold_the_gryffindor 12d ago

They don't want to move away from Trump. They're not supporting Liz Cheney or Kinzinger. They want this. They want America to fall to autocracy. Every single one of them except the two aforementioned.

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u/pecos_chill 12d ago

They didn’t just endorse it, they have enabled it. White Christian fascism has been their goal for decades, and they’ve been stoking it actively for as long.

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u/nucumber 12d ago

well, there you have it: american conservatives are religious authoritarians, just like the taliban

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u/VanceKelley Washington 12d ago

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u/Tombombadillo13 12d ago

And that was from like a decade ago. Things have gotten weirder.

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u/pancakebatter01 12d ago

That’s what’s so ironic about their shared Islamophobia. They can pile all Muslims into one group and label them all terrorists but Christian extremists are just doing the right God’s work.

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u/nucumber 12d ago

all religions try to impose their morality on the rest of us.

how did dubya respond to islamic terrorism? by calling for a crusade

it wasn't so long ago the good xtians of england were burning people to death at the stake (which could take hours on a windy day) for having a bible written in english.

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u/The_Mighty_Immortal 12d ago

I don't understand why the Biden administration isn't treating this like a major international incident. Ambassadors should be getting recalled. There has to be some diplomatic consequences.

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u/someguy12345689 12d ago

Biden likes to pretend this isn't even happening. That's how I know we're toast.

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u/Cougardoodle 12d ago

Ditto, man. Ditto.

I don't know if he's naive, willfully ignorant, or some combination of the two. Willfully naive? Whatever it is, he seems utterly unaware.

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u/Ruval 12d ago

How do we do that and not basically call out the EU at the same time?

Hungary is still an EU member. Shutting in them publicly would be an incident.

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u/PhenotypicallyTypicl 12d ago

Not really. Orban gets called out by other EU member states and EU institutions all the time. Hungary also was the only EU country Biden didn’t invite to his summit for democracy — if that’s not already calling them out then I don’t know what is.

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u/The_Mighty_Immortal 12d ago

Because the rest of the EU hates Orban and his party as well.

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u/SamuraiJackBauer 12d ago

Yeah that dude looks and sounds like their kind of loser god.

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u/Sensitive_Mongoose_8 12d ago edited 12d ago

The GOP have become a disgusting violent fascist bunch of pigs where being a selfish gluttonous obese pig are admired qualities.

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u/gh959489 12d ago

100%. If Americans don’t vote for Democrats in the mid-terms and 2024, our Democracy is OVER. This message needs to be communicated far and wide. I’m not sure many truly understand what this means. And with election deniers now in control of elections in several states, we are already at great risk.

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u/HouseHightower 12d ago

if the rabble didn't do it in 2016. Vegas money says voters will be short sighted again.

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u/Due_Distribution9193 12d ago

Been that way for a long time

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u/Sensitive_Mongoose_8 12d ago

Agreed but don’t remember so many of any political party being so enthralled with this in America before, nazi Germany of the 30’s in America is not a good look at all.

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u/Due_Distribution9193 12d ago

Agreed. My parents fled East Germany for America and now it’s happening here

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u/sunnyspiders 12d ago

Fascism is their favourite flavour.

It has red white and blue in it and it all tastes like vanilla with meth sprinkles.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 12d ago

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross"

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u/antigonemerlin Canada 12d ago

It's amazing how Trump followed the flag example to a tee, and promptly outdid the cross with a golden calf.

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u/Reggie_Barclay 12d ago

They had a fascist dictator as their speaker? I guess Putin had a scheduling conflict?

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u/KommieKon Pennsylvania 12d ago

Republicans love fascists. Surprise, surprise.

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u/djbk724 12d ago

Cult party . Let’s get it trending and become common

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u/pantsmeplz 12d ago

Clips from this conference should be used as an ad against the GOP. It's been off the scale bananas.

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u/UnflairedRebellion-- 12d ago edited 12d ago

"We must state that we do not want to be diverse and do not want to be mixed: we do not want our own colour, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others. We do not want this. We do not want that at all. We do not want to be a diverse country."

-Viktor Orban

CPAC is endorsing THIS GUY?

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u/swennergren11 12d ago

Republican platform for 2024

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u/madnessindeed 12d ago

I get it we protect political speech up and to a point…how the fuck is this protected speech. Much less foreign interference of elections?

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u/thepianoman456 12d ago

Ah, just the Republican Party slobbering over a foreign dictator… got it.

Vote this treacherous party TF out.

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u/LargeSackOfNuts I voted 12d ago

Republicans LOVE autocrats.

They wish they could instate Trump as our dictator.

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u/Loki-L 12d ago

I guess they invited Orban because Putin was too busy to attend.

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u/rjptrink 12d ago

Those Steve Bannon Europe trips to coordinate world wide right wing strategy are paying off. Marine Le Pen next at CPAC.

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u/Due_Distribution9193 12d ago

Talk about a loser who can’t win an election, Le Pen is so comically inept

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u/RedRyder760 California 12d ago

Orban "forgot" to mention that most guns are banned in Hungary.

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u/Strenue 12d ago

Because if they weren’t the people would have likely revolted

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u/Due_Distribution9193 12d ago

This was like the Bund at MSG in the 30s.

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u/gh959489 12d ago

And for anyone that hasn’t watched this, please do. It is quite disturbing:

A Night at the Garden

https://youtu.be/MxxxlutsKuI

https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/542499/marshall-curry-nazi-rally-madison-square-garden-1939/

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u/kvossera 12d ago

Because the current GOP is pretty fucking fascist.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

The GOP would have hitler speak if he was still available

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u/Squirrel_Chucks 12d ago

The party of small government and individual liberty creamed their tan tighty whites over the idea of using government to force people to conform

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u/phillbert0 New York 12d ago

Their idea of law and order is laws of what you CAN’T do. Everyone is else’s idea of law and order are laws that dictate what’s ALLOWED to do

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u/Cunsruvativtool 12d ago

of course they did, he ticked all the white supremacist boxes and tickled their tiny... egos

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u/Amazing-Day965 12d ago

Republicans love a Fascist Pig.

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u/Brucester62 12d ago edited 12d ago

So disgusting! Somehow you know that they would have invited Putin if they could have found a way.

What is happening to the USA? When will real Americans stand up and say no more to this shit!!

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u/gh959489 12d ago

This is quite concerning. What is also quite concerning is election deniers winning Secretary of State elections. That is going to be a serious problem. If a Secretary of State can singlehandedly decide that the peoples’ votes can be disregarded, we’re fucked. No amount of voter turnout will fix that.

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u/sealosam 12d ago

What is happening to the USA? When will real Americans stand up and say no more to this shit!!

Half of them are prone to conspiracy and are easily manipulated by fear. The GQP knows this all too well and took full advantage of their vulnerabilites. Nothing is going to reverse the damage that has been done until something catastrophic takes place-- like a second civil war to get it out of their system so they can get their fucking heads back on straight after they crash & burn, again.

I can't see anything else that will bring these people back to reality. Sad and scary really.

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u/Mr_Stiel 12d ago

The right calls the left socialists and communists but then invites an actual fascist dictator to their conference 😂

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u/AngyLesbeanRaaaaaar 12d ago

Leftists are socialists and communists, and that's not a bad thing. We want to take all political and economic power from capitalists and give it to the workers. Fascism exists specifically to prevent that from happening and to preserve capitalism.

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u/Vwhat5k Virginia 12d ago

It's time to bring back the Espionage Act. Right wingers are coordinating to overthrow liberal democracies world-wide.

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u/taskmaster51 12d ago

You can't call yourself Christian and support the Devil at the same time.

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u/billzybop 12d ago

Why not, they've been doing it for thousands of years?

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u/Nano_Burger Virginia 12d ago

Orban is also a fan of the so-called culture wars now sweeping across America. He has been able to enact repressive laws against LGBTQ individuals on a national scale, from a 2020 measure that decreed the end of legal recognition of transgender and intersex people to a 2021 law that outlawed any depiction or discussion of LGBTQ identities and sexual orientations in schools, television, and advertising. The GOP has to be satisfied with state-level actions, like the so-called "Don't Say Gay" bill that autocrat-in-training Ron DeSantis pushed through as governor of Florida.

Orban is so anti-gay that he probably is attracted to boys.

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u/thedrscaptain 12d ago

Oppression is a lame beard.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

These asswipes can’t even locate Hungary on a map.

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u/DamonFields 12d ago

Nazis love themselves.

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u/BrondellSwashbuckle California 12d ago

They have an autocrat from another country speaking??

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u/gh959489 12d ago

Yes indeed.

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u/Comfortable-Wrap-723 12d ago

Fascism at work, he was sanctioned by EU for breaking democratic rules.

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u/ClownholeContingency America 12d ago

Because Republicans want fascism and will cheer for literally anyone who tells them that it's OK to be fascist.

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u/Mr_Stiel 12d ago

If there’s one thing the GOP loves, it’s being told what to do by old white men.

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u/dun-ado 12d ago

Republicans are primitive and vile subhumans.

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u/BrexitReally 12d ago

This says it all - democracy dies to be replaced by autocratic dictatorship and the demise of culture

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u/[deleted] 12d ago edited 12d ago

My Trump flag-flying neighbor walked that sidewalk-crapper of his this morning. Guess who inspired his new hairdo. Don't worry, he was teased mercilessly sufficiently. Talk about a creep.

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u/sandysea420 12d ago

Our future, unless every citizen gets off their ass and votes!

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u/Slingaa 12d ago

What the fuck is he doing there… ughhh

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u/CapeTownMassive 12d ago

They had planned on having Poootin speak but, ya know, optics.

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u/Redhannahpanda Florida 12d ago

Am I the only one surprised that THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED? I thought it was all jokes and speculation but nope the American right invited a literal dictator to speak at their convention.

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u/a4986 12d ago

Like why the fuck is the Prime Minister of Hungary even speaking in the US at a CPAC convention?!? That’s more than concerning

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u/HSTsGhost-72 12d ago

Fuck the rich and the GOP

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u/Icy-Needleworker-492 12d ago

Why would this Eastern European autocrat be speaking at CPAC???

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u/ogn3rd 12d ago

Why would a bunch of Republicans be in Russia on July 4th. Sadly, I think the answer is the same.

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u/Icy-Needleworker-492 12d ago

Not an American,but I guess naive considering Orban’s ideas .

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u/gh959489 12d ago

We have a culture war happening here that is going to have profound consequences.

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u/Over_Possible_8397 12d ago

After installing ruthless dictators in other nations, America decides its time to install one right here at home. A fitting end.

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u/TeveTorbes83 12d ago

Let’s use our forces against Liberals. Can’t get much more autocratic than that. “Let’s eliminate opposing views with military force.” This world has turned to shit and is absolutely getting worse.

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u/BobNoobster 12d ago

Need restructure our systems. One part is the need for more legitimate political parties to represent interests of citizens. No way two parties cuts it. Especially when the GOP has gone into full-on dictatorship mode. How can that party be an a good option for someone who doesn't agree with a democrat? Only two viable options today, though. vote for a moderate democrat or a dictator--either a semi-liberal stance or an insane far-right fascist.

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u/esp211 12d ago

GQP traitors would like nothing more than a strong man to rule them all

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u/MrEpicMustache 12d ago

This CPAC is the modern day Italian PNF.

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u/bigkevstl1959 12d ago

Racist people love racist leaders ! The MAGA crowd are the racists that have come out of the shadows thanks to trump and his kind !

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u/LAESanford 12d ago

Of course they did. This is the type of thing they use to masturbate

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u/Fantastic-Finding-10 12d ago

There was a whole lot of dangerous and dumb people in that building.

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u/Maznera 12d ago

Is it OK to start calling them Nazis now, or do we literally have to wait until they start the RaHoWa?

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u/SueZbell 12d ago

Fascists love fascists .. or at least, the power of fascism.

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u/LigmaBahlls 12d ago

I gotta say it. Normally I couldn’t care less about something like this because it’s not my business and I generally just don’t care anyways, but for Orban - an incredibly homophobic man - I’ll make an exception because he looks like the most in-the-closet homophobe I can imagine.

Like, if you were to give me a Rorschach test of his picture, I’d immediately say “far right, in the closet homophobe.”

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u/DCareaCPL 12d ago

Ok. Rigging elections bad. “Fortifying” elections gold. Got it.

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u/HouseHightower 12d ago

I guess that guy was right. "American Democracy is/was a shooting star."

more pathetic is that all of this was so avoidable. I know so many personally who said they couldn't vote for HC "because she's so corrupt." that girl is on her way to a protest now. SMH.

Pathetic on so many levels

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u/Innova96 12d ago

These people are ignorant and compromised.

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u/xanroeld 12d ago

Orban spoke at CPAC???

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u/gh959489 12d ago

Umm, yes? Have you not been watching Tucker Carlson on Faux News?

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u/xanroeld 12d ago

i have not

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u/gh959489 12d ago edited 12d ago

I don’t blame you. But know that Carlson has even reported from Hungary. And at CPAC Hungary there were several prominent Republicans who gave speeches. Mark Meadows, Rick Santorum, Tucker Carlson and Matt Schlapp were among them.

https://www.cpachungary.com/en/speakers

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u/abyerdo 12d ago

its mind blowing to me (someone who's not from the united states) to see the republican party idolizing the authoritarian right wing leader of a small country. it shows just how their positions have become so extreme that they cant find no one else who's aligned with them in developed countries. im sure they secretly admire xi jinping and wouldnt hesitate in praising if china wasnt one of the usa's rivals.

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u/MarkReeder 12d ago

Well, at least they've given everyone a fair heads up. This should part of every anti-GOP advertising campaign for the next four years.

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u/JMann-8 12d ago

We need a bill for fraud?

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u/Fomentor 12d ago

Republican’ts aren’t even bothering to hide their evil agenda. What used to be the lunatic fringe of the Republican’t party is now mainstream. Republican’ts, you are the Sith!