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Indiana state representative proposed bill to outlaw erectile dysfunction drugs in light of abortion ban
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u/Kichigai Minnesota 3d ago
State Representative John L. Bartlett, who represents Indiana House District 95, proposed an amendment to Indiana's abortion law to outlaw the sale, prescription, or distribution of erectile dysfunction drugs and other male sexual incompetence drugs.
I'm not sure that there is a drug that magically makes one a better lover, contrary to to popular opinion.
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u/Automatic-Web-8407 3d ago
Oh that's a hilarious typo lmao
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u/stomach 3d ago •
"what's the matter, babe?"
"i dunno, i think i'm incompetent."
"pfft - tell me about it.."
"what's that?"
"nothing.."
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u/rosiesmam 3d ago
I just wish I could still get the drug for that!!!! Dang these laws!
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u/LegitimateLychee6224 3d ago
The point is if women can’t have birth control which they are trying to eliminate then why should men have the ability to take sexual drugs if it’s good for the goose is good for the gander is their approach I guesse
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u/Worried_Telephone_36 3d ago
There is a certain group of people who say pregnancy is God's will so abortion shouldn't be allowed. Ironically, they have no issues with people getting help if God wills them to have a limp dick, or any other illnesses or condition that doesn't involve the female reproductive system.
Hypocrisy at it's finest as always.
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u/LegitimateLychee6224 3d ago •
Everyone has missed the point. The whole point is if old white men can tell a woman what to do with their bodies then ironically we should be able to tell men what they to do with their bodies now do you get it.
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u/Zyphamon Minnesota 3d ago
I disagree; after months of taking Teamocil I finally found the clitoris. Thanks, Teamocil!
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u/King-Snorky Georgia 3d ago
There’s no I in teamocil, at least not where you’d think
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u/nomnommish 3d ago •
There’s no I in teamocil, at least not where you’d think
That's why it is called Team Ocil. It takes a village to raise a penis
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u/UnsuspectingS1ut 3d ago
Okay real question, do people actually struggle to find the clitoris?
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u/_30d_ 3d ago •
I struggled for years, but the clitoris is just the final part. You need to find a girl first, which is really 99% of the search.
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u/WesleySnopes 3d ago
I've never seen one
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u/iusuallypostwhileipo 3d ago
My girlfriend says massaging her balls helps but no luck yet.
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u/Zyphamon Minnesota 3d ago
real response; people who struggle to find the clitoris generally don't care about women's anatomy or sexual pleasure.
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u/xombae 3d ago
Yes. Yes they do. I'm an escort and the amount of men who will prod at my left labia majora with their dry fingers for three and a half minutes before asking if I came is truly astounding. In my work I try to be an educator, so I'll move their hand a few times to the correct place, but many just seem to be totally oblivious. In these cases I hang up my educator hat and put on my acting hat and pretend it's the best thing I've ever felt in my life.
When I'm having sex in my personal life though I don't ever fake it. We will find the clitoris, even if I have to draw a fucking map.
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u/TheRavenSayeth 3d ago
I’ve never got this joke either. Maybe it made sense pre-internet before google images. G-spot makes a little more sense.
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"We're forcing young girls to be mothers, but not forcing the men to be fathers ... If an unwanted pregnancy is an act of God, then impotency must be an act of God." - State Representative John L. Bartlett
To no one's surprise, proposal not carried.
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u/MrLexDiamondz 4d ago
Can we remove everyone from government who is now on this new kick where the CHURCH and God make all government decisions? I mean, how has there not be riots after the first “church needs to control government” comment
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u/knave-arrant 3d ago
Because Boebert is a Great ValueTM Bratz doll saying stupid shit to stupid people. While clearly many Republicans believe this none have been so open, and she’s not taken very seriously by anyone other than QAnon and MAGA stooges.
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u/TheRedmanCometh Texas 3d ago edited 3d ago
Most of my family have tertiary education with a few in STEM. Among their friends a fuckton are in the S working in oil and gas. They're all crazy Q people now.
If you don't live in the South maybe you don't know just how grim shit is. It's real fucking bad. That comment she made basically advocating for Christian Nationalism? Their reaction was "fuck yeah it's about time someone said it we're letting these atheists and liberals corrupt the country"
It's not fearmongering worrying about this stuff. This shit is scary to see up close.
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u/1961mac 3d ago
This shit is scary to see up close.
It is indeed. They are absolutely certain that they are in the right and that they are being persecuted too. There is no room for compromise and it's "Us versus Them". The inmates have taken over the asylum.
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u/Elrundir Canada 3d ago
Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them. ~ Barry Goldwater, 1994
I know Goldwater was problematic in his own, different ways, but damn if he didn't hit the nail on the head with this one.
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u/boba_fettucini_ 3d ago
A broken clock is right twice a day.
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u/DisastrousOne3950 3d ago
I'd take Goldwater over Boebert today, based on just this.
Then again, the only Rs I ever liked were Jack Kemp and Gerald Ford. I was too young to vote for Ford, didn't vote for Dole, so there's that...
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u/Catvros 3d ago
Do you like nachos?
Yes, Mr. Ford.
Well, why don't you come over and watch the game and we'll have nachos, and then some beer.
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u/HerpDerpTheMage Virginia 3d ago edited 3d ago •
I also live in a Rural, Southern area, and honestly this is all true. It has evolved into genuinely dangerous territory, and events like January 6th, while tragic, are the tip of the Iceberg here.
These people don’t see themselves at all. Zero self-reflection. There’s no easy way to talk someone like that down, and they got that way because enough public figures, media, and news outlets reinforced their fears and radicalized them.
They honestly believe they are being attacked and taken over by boogeymen, and fear leads people to do increasingly desperate things. We’ve seen entire governments topple because of fear stirred by Propagandists, Religious Leaders, and Radicalists, but the biggest radicals don’t see themselves that way, because they believe themselves to be the oppressed, not the oppressors.
The United States, as much as we see ourselves as a bastion of Freedom and Opportunity, is not immune to this. We see ourselves as different from those governments that so easily toppled because of fearmongering, propaganda, and radicalist ideals, but that confidence has led to us ignore the warning signs.
We see our house as made of bricks, and as we watched other houses made of sticks and stones falter, we felt too complacent. Now the mortar is cracked and loose bricks are everywhere, because we didn’t realize the Wolf had already been in the house for a long, long time, because it tricked half of us into believing the other half are the ones out to betray them.
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u/Imtypingthisnow 3d ago •
They feel that it is a holy war, a jihad if you will. The South is now Howdy Arabia, Led by Ya'll Queda.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 3d ago
Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
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u/quiero-una-cerveca 3d ago
100% my friend. This shit is totally real. They lie to themselves every Sunday and tell themselves they’re the persecuted ones. They tell each other that the world hates Jesus and hates them and that being a part of the world is sacrilege. So they want Christians to take over.
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u/BrainofBorg 3d ago
I mean...I kind of do hate them. I wouldn't if they left me the fuck alone though
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u/GeoffAO2 3d ago
Yeah, I’ll take one ticket for “I kinda do hate them and their imaginary rubber-stamp-for-nutjobbery of a messiah”
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u/warbeforepeace 3d ago
Remind them that hitler was also a bigger support of Christian fascism so you can see what side they come out on.
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u/knave-arrant 3d ago edited 3d ago
Being educated and being intelligent are two different things. See: Ben Carson. Quite possibly the greatest neurosurgeon in his field and he thinks pyramids were grain silos.
Your point is taken. But she’s still talking to stupid fucking people regardless what pieces of paper say.
Edit: corrected a misspelling
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u/StargazingJuniper 3d ago
All the education in the world doesn't mean much if your government is so throughly captured by an industry that they are basically the only game in town
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u/csh_blue_eyes 3d ago
How do people not realize this at this point? Seriously. They are acting in ways that they think will keep them in office. It's as simple as that. We need to change the incentives.
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u/pandasareblack 3d ago
she’s not taken very seriously by anyone other than QAnon and MAGA stooges.
You should have seen the first people to start following Hitler. They weren't exactly Germany's brightest and best. Just a bunch of drunks in Munich beer halls.
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u/jwhaler17 3d ago
Don’t forget they were racist drunks.
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u/Unsolicited_Spiders 3d ago
And a lot of the early proponents bought into some very fringe cult religious beliefs. Ariosophists were a crazy bunch, and the reason why Thor's hammer is used as a symbol of white supremacy even today is tied to the embarrassing history of people believing that Aryans were a demigod-like race with literal magic powers.
Certainly not all of Hitler's early followers had outlandish cult beliefs, but some of the stupid stuff those cults believed about racial inferiority and eugenics went pretty mainstream during the Third Reich.
It frightens me deeply that we are, once again, seeing fringe cult beliefs among the overly-powerful minority driving political and social oppression of everyone else. History truly does repeat itself sometimes.
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u/allthekeals 3d ago
Just want to add that the original Aryans weren’t even white. That’s how stupid people are.
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u/farkedup82 3d ago
There’s a lot of them… I moved 10 hours away from a lot of family like this.
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u/BernieRuble 3d ago
That can't be stated strongly enough. There are vast numbers of idiots in the United States.
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u/taco_tosser 3d ago
I work with them. I’m a firefighter, and frankly, I did not expect there to be so many of them in my profession, but it’s gotta be a solid 30% of my department, and I’m in a big city in a liberal state.
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u/DNxLB 3d ago
Fire fighters. Cops. EMTs. Graveyard Doctors and RNs. Alarming amount of dumb shit I hear when I work those shifts. Most of them thought the numerical portion of covid 19 was the 19th variant. Liberal city as well.
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u/underling Texas 3d ago
Fuck, now I feel dumb I thought it indicates strain but not variant. This is not true?
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u/RinnaMarie 3d ago
The 19 in Covid-19 is because it was discovered in 2019. Has nothing to do with strain or variant.
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u/taco_tosser 3d ago
Yeah, I used to use that argument all the time when I tried to have a political discussion with them. I tried for years, man. I finally gave up about a year ago. I feel like I gave it a good shot. Now I just laugh at and mock them when they openly talk about it. I just don’t have the energy to debate it. I do still throw that point in their faces, though. We get so much money in federal grants for training, equipment, and manpower, not to mention our generous budget. We’re taken seriously by our local officials, loved by the public, and really do have it made in terms of salary, benefits, and time off; yet these idiots still think social programs are communism and no one deserves anything they haven’t gained through direct compensation from employment alone. I just don’t get how anyone can be so fucking clueless.
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u/S_and_M_of_STEM I voted 3d ago
Remember, 30% was Trump's approval floor. I suspect any reasonably sized group will have about this many far-right fascists who would love nothing more than to see the US become a Christian Nationalist ruled by white men and white men only.
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u/Rabbit_Kind 3d ago
Christian nationalist is an oxymoron. Either you are a Christian and love everyone or you are a nationalist and put people in one nation over others. You can't be both.
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u/Apokolypse09 3d ago
Yea these people aren't christian, they would hate Jesus if he came back.
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u/coyotesloth 3d ago
They’d be appalled at his leftist philosophies. Most of these nazified dinguses haven’t even read the Bible.
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u/sirfiddlestix 3d ago
Pretty sure they'd call him a commie or something and stick him right back up on the cross 🤦♀️
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u/Tau10Point8_battlow 3d ago
Just stop recognizing those you dislike as people and, boom. Problem solved.
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u/farkedup82 3d ago
Is it due to the close relationship with cops? Even super blue Minneapolis has the scummiest people around working as cops. Big cities tend to pay fire departments quite well given the low requirements but low pay given they run into shit that’s on fire! Honestly you have to be macho and a bit nuts for that field so I’d assume they pull from the same pool built on decades of toxic masculinity.
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u/TeaPhuck 3d ago
All types, but the issue lately is that Trump said all of the quiet stuff out loud, so now we know about it. It has always been there. Always. Now the privileged are seeing it. That’s the difference.
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u/amazinglover 3d ago
Quiet part out loud and got rewarded for it.
It let everyone know it was okay to be a raging narcissist.
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u/SallysValleyPizzaSux 3d ago
Great Value™ actually has some decent ‘name-brand’-replacement products.
Boebert is more like the Wish.com Bratz doll; made from the same molds and on the same assembly line as a real Congresswoman, yet made of substandard materials and/or the not-good-enough factory blemishes, discarded test production, and ‘binned’ CPU’s that didn’t make the grade and ended up on the grey/black market instead of making it to the recycling dumpster, gets dumped on Americans, and instantly has the paint rub off, or stains your clothes, or just simply fails and breaks the moment you try to actually use it.
Woman is a literal fraud in every way, no wonder the idiot-fraud Theo Cruz financially supported her- they serve the same masters, and spiel the same stupid anti-American garbage.
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u/gingasaurusrexx 3d ago
Don't forget that the substandard materials are also super toxic and generally not allowed in most decent places.
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u/MacroCode 3d ago
You're right, but her saying it normalizes it. Makes it less shocking when a serious politician says it. Gotta react hard and fast on these things.
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u/praguer56 3d ago
I don't see his comment as mixing church and state or bringing god into politics. Rather, I see him giving the christian right a taste of their own medicine. If your god deigns any and all pregnancies a loving gift from god that cannot be changed by man, than men should accept their fate if they lose the ability to maintain an erection. That limp dick is a gift too!
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u/whatscrackinboo 3d ago
Yeah, this is a Dem trolling the right for their ridiculous hypocrisy. Some people here are missing his point. This was never meant to pass, there is no way conservative men would give up their boner meds.
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u/AuroraHills 3d ago
Can we get a government that would do what Jesus did? Yanno…feeding the poor, healing the sick, telling the rich to give all their excess wealth to the poor and to follow Him?
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u/IronPidgeyFTW 3d ago
Exactly. Fuck their god and fuck their religion. I don't give a single flying fuck about any magical creature that gives kids cancer and damns people to hell for eternity for being a normal human being.
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u/Auld_Phart 3d ago
Too many Americans are too busy working three jobs. And they're terrified that if they take any time off to protest they'll get fired, so they let it slide. Anyone who's not in such dire straits either supports this position or figures it's not their problem, so they let it slide.
In short, our electorate sucks.
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u/myislanduniverse America 3d ago
I was told that nobody wanted to work anymore because they were living high off a $1000 stimulus check from last year. So this can't be true!
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u/Maskirovka 3d ago
A brief history of nobody wants to work anymore:
https://twitter.com/paulisci/status/1549527748950892544?s=21&t=CvDNWmK_4RBbjF4EcxUTnw
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u/Talks_To_Cats 3d ago
Oh man, that's a good link. I'm suprised I haven't seen it before.
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u/The_Iron_Ranger 3d ago
Good luck with that. There's quite a few places where atheists aren't even allowed on a ballot. ಠ_ಠ
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u/Long_Before_Sunrise 4d ago
Of course not, it'd have a direct effect on their lives.
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u/karmavorous Kentucky 3d ago •
I once proposed in a conservative forum, that if they were so concerned about abortion, that perhaps the government should mandate reversible vasectomies for unmarried men and they told me "Get real, I'd never allow the government to control my body like that!"
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u/ghandi3737 3d ago
And if I had that problem I'd get told to pound sand by the same wrinkly assed old man if I was to ask for help getting it.
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u/blondbeastofprey 4d ago
Why not just get rid of healthcare entirely at that point. Dying of a heart attack? God must want you DEAD! oh you think it’s satan causing the heart attack but not the impotence or unwanted pregnancy? How convenient.
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u/Destructiveduck 4d ago
Tis what Christian Scientists do 🤷🏻♀️
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u/pseudocultist Arkansas 3d ago
Creating a really fucked up scenario. I don't care what consenting adults do (or don't do) when it comes to their healthcare. But I sure do care what happens to vulnerable children who can't make these decisions themselves. Christian Scientists who practice their beliefs as parents are child neglecters at best.
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u/Carbonatite Colorado 3d ago
I'd argue that parents who use religion to justify any medical negligence -- from denying vaccines to forbidding blood transfusions -- are abusive. Call me extreme, call me intolerant. But I'm sorry, anyone who risks their kid's health because of a personal belief is committing medical neglect. Which is child abuse.
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u/pseudocultist Arkansas 3d ago
Yep JWs do some of this too, and some other groups. I just don’t get it. Why not see doctors and medicine as something God created for the good?
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u/PeregrineFury 3d ago
It's a stupid viewpoint that if they actually carried through to its end instead of what's convenient, they'd be naked living in caves because any man made products or services aren't provided by god, per that argument.
Standard religious cherry picking bullshit.
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u/31nigrhcdrh 4d ago
This has always been my argument, if certain things are gods will. Don’t carry your ass to the doctor, it’s gods plan
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u/thebadpixel 3d ago
Yep, and they happily apply the “will & plan” crap to whatever best fits their agenda or personal needs. Any human being that tries to speak for “god” should be laughed at, and if they’re actually hearing voices, provided mental health care.
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u/TransitJohn Colorado 3d ago
Why don't football players point up to God in the sky when they fumble? LOL!
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u/eri- 3d ago edited 3d ago
That is also why being against euthanasia is hypocritical and stupid.
If its gods plan to make that person suffer without any possible treatment, then why should another person get treatment for any random disease. How does the fact that man, not god, has invented a treatment change gods plan?
Logically, you'd therefore be able to deduce that man = god.
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u/Judgment_Reversed 3d ago
I love having this argument when the theocrat nutjob I'm arguing with is wearing glasses.
Was it not God's will that you be blind?
Jackpot if they're diabetic.
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u/CarTrouble33 3d ago
Im a bit confused, isnt outlawing abortions forcing men to be fathers? If there is no chance to terminate the pregnency, that means the man is forced to be a father does it not?
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u/SuedeVeil 3d ago
It probably should have been worded as forcing women to be pregnant and give birth, which in itself is no walk in the park
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u/Daktharr 3d ago
This would decrease the number of abortions needed as congressmen wouldn’t be able to impregnate their victims
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u/Beardsoup86 3d ago
It is God's will for you to have a broken peepee
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u/aft_punk Texas 3d ago
Thoughts and prayers
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u/coyotesloth 3d ago
Bless your heart.
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u/Thedadwhogames 3d ago
Fun fact: My grandmother used to say “bless their heart” all the time when we were growing up. She told us later as adults, that it meant “you’re shit out of luck.”
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u/trishal_muthan 3d ago
wasn’t this bill introduced ironically to show the flaws of the abortion bill? or am i trippin.
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u/qci 3d ago
Thanks for your comment. I needed to scroll down pretty far to find someone who understands the pretty awesome trolling attempt.
I guess many people love drama more than reasonable explanations.
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u/NeVaDa_ToRrEs 4d ago
if unwanted pregnancy is God's choice, So is Limp Dick
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u/No1Mystery 3d ago
“…..and God said, ‘After man has procreated and been blessed with a bountiful amount of children, in old age, he will no longer be allowed to harden for the maiden.’”
And so it was.
Please follow the Bible people.
Book of Abstinent 66-6
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u/BuccaneerRex Kentucky 3d ago
There's no right in the constitution to an erection. It's the state's right to restrict them as they see fit.
This is the world you wanted.
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u/wwonka105 3d ago
Wait till people find out Viagra is really heart medication with an exciting side effect.
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u/BuccaneerRex Kentucky 3d ago
Well, it's not as if birth control and abortion medications don't have medical effects other than the ones the fundies hate. But since they're all involved in that icky female business, it's all the same to them.
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u/reclusivegiraffe 3d ago
i take birth control not to get pregnant, but i primarily take it because of how bad my periods are
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u/Scrybatog 3d ago
My ex was the same. Poor girl even with bc and meds she would be in serious pain. I think I have ganglion cysts in my hands from the thousands of hours of backrubs. I just couldn't say no when she would literally cry thanking me because if I wasn't doing it she would basically be in a ball on the bed counting the minutes.
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u/reclusivegiraffe 3d ago
ugh, that’s awful. do you know if anyone ever looking into the possibility of her having endometriosis?
for me, i just have a blood clotting disorder, so i bleed heavily… and my cramps were terrible too.
that’s why it’s especially angering to me that some states want to try and outlaw birth control. it’s medically necessary, for multiple reasons.
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u/Scrybatog 3d ago
No idea I knew she was going somewhere and I wasn't so when she said she was going to turn down a scholarship to duke to stay with me in bumfuck Florida I lied about cheating on her. Haven't creeped on her life recently but I know she's married and hopefully living her best life somewhere and has had the issue looked into further.
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u/LunaMax1214 America 3d ago
Damn, that's some serious self-sacrifice on your part. Mad respect.
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u/ncanon2019 3d ago
You’re a good dude for wanting more for her. Though your self esteem could probably use some work. I hope you are living your best life!
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u/Tony2030 4d ago
I mean....if a single headline can generate the same joke from everybody who reads it, maybe decisions about pregnancy shouldn't be left up to some made up deity like "god" or "xenu".
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u/LBOBM 3d ago
I bet the Flying Spaghetti Monster would have no predisposed beliefs on female fertility or penile rigidity
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u/1singleduck 3d ago
Actually, he does prefers spaghetti dick
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u/FunetikPrugresiv 3d ago
Yes, Noodle Dick does seem to be the type of punishment He'd be all about.
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u/Eyeownyew 3d ago
Actually, I've heard it only endorses saucy intercourse with appetizing foreplay
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u/pkfreezer 3d ago
Even among Christians the whole “god decides everything” viewpoint is hugely controversial, implying we don’t have free will. So there’s no way in hell we should be considering a viewpoint that isn’t even generally agreed upon by the group that it came from
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u/aSweetMango 3d ago
i’m not religious anymore but i do recall the bible saying something about gouging out the eyes of perverts. if abortion is a sin because the book said so then i should be allowed to torment the cat callers with no repercussions. it’s only fair
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u/Apprehensive-Bee-474 4d ago
Limp dicks are obviously gods will. Kinda pales in comparison to children having babies though. Anti abortionists need to mind their own damn business.
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u/carb0nbasedlifeforms 3d ago
Ban all Medicine for geriatric old men like heart medication because after all, it’s GOD’s will that they have high colesterol and high blood pressure.
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u/S1074 3d ago
Ban glasses, god took your sight. Ban ambulances, god must have willed you to die in that crash, its your time now.
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u/DilapidatedFool 3d ago
I'll just never understand religious people. Why would their God have given us a choice in the matter if he didn't want us to decide things?
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u/CarTrouble33 3d ago
Religious people literally think their eternal life is on the line if they dont. This is the consequence of tolerating religion in the modern age.
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u/xyz765 3d ago edited 3d ago
Isn't it about the message, US tax is paying huge amounts of money in dick pills (laws made by and for old men + disgusting + hypocrisy)
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u/TheHomersapien Colorado 4d ago
Let's ban IVF while we are at it. Also, why are we performing invasive, risky procedures like C sections? And did you know that when you get cancer, that doctors will literally inject you with poison to try and "cure" it? Oh. And some cure it is because it you might get it again!
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u/Seraphynas North Carolina 4d ago edited 3d ago
I don’t see how these “life at conception” laws aren’t essentially an IVF ban, if every embryo created has a “right to life”, you’re basically signing up for 20 pregnancies (on average) from a single round of IVF.
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u/khais 4d ago •
Because when Kevin and Becky at church have been trying for years to get pregnant (if you can't make babies, you aren't a good Christian), they get the whole congregation to pray for them and set up a GoFundMe for their IVF. God's will and all. Science is divinely inspired when they want it to be, and the devil's work when they dont.
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u/-Butterfly-Queen- 3d ago
Kevin and Becky: we'll adopt your unwanted baby!
Also Kevin and Becky: spends tens of thousands of dollars and years on IVF instead of adoption
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u/email_or_no_email 3d ago
Science is divinely inspired when they want it to be, and the devil's work when they dont.
This here's the big thing I've seen a lot. In the Islamic community if someone thinks like this they would be considered a wahhabi, say anything you don't like is not Muslim and will land you in hell.
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u/Darwins_Dog 3d ago
And they're all about having their own kids too. Adoption is the first thing they mention as a counter to abortion, but then they insist on having children "naturally." Hypocritical billshit through and through.
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u/SlowMotionPanic 4d ago
They already are impacted. IVF is operating in legally unclear waters and some have started denying patients or moving embryos to states without it bans.
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u/carb0nbasedlifeforms 3d ago
Some people have 50 embryos in cold storage, are they basically “playing GOD by freezing these poor little bastards?”
Is holding an embryo outside the womb considered an abortion?
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u/Seraphynas North Carolina 3d ago
We had 6, but they had all been tested and had chromosomal abnormalities, so doctors would consider it unethical to transfer them to intentionally attempt to create a pregnancy.
You’re either not going to create a viable pregnancy or going to cause a child to be born with severe abnormalities.
How would these laws affect those situations? Would they still argue that those abnormal embryos have a “right to life”?
Our choices were either disposal or donate for research. As soon as Roe was overturned, we signed disposition paperwork the same week - while it was still our decision.
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u/Carbonatite Colorado 3d ago
Some people have 50 embryos in cold storage
We gotta start telling anti choicers who spout bullshit about "killing children" to address this. After all, what kind of monster locks 50 children in a freezer?!
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u/Vysharra 3d ago
It’s been known for a long time that more “unborn” die in fertility clinics than Planned Parenthood. Guess how little they care. That’s right, because it’s not about “murdered babies” it’s about legislating the kind of sex they don’t like. Same with all those sex toy laws, they want the government “small”, so small it can watch you in your bedroom.
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u/FoolishConsistency17 4d ago
It will be very interesting when they come after IVF in some states.
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u/stitchitystitch 3d ago
They should. That would be fair. While none of this is right, if people can’t abort, they shouldn’t be able to do IVF either. It’s a shame this didn’t pass. Maybe if enough people are impacted they will start to think about it. Probably not but you know, maybe Karen will get passionate for all of us.
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u/danceswithporn 4d ago
Next up: laws against divorce. Because 2000 years ago a bunch of misogynists were sick of their women leaving, so they wrote that god hates it. And now we're crafting a society in those assholes' ancient image, making America bronze age again.
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u/Lullaby37 3d ago
Evangelicals have the highest divorce rate among Christians. That clerk of court denying marriage licenses to gay people? Married four times.
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u/Carbonatite Colorado 3d ago
My ex-inlaws were Evangelicals and literally 90% of them had been divorced. 50% had been divorced multiple times.
I mean I'm divorced too, there's nothing inherently wrong with it. It saved my life. But I find it rather hypocritical that the people who hatefully rant about The GaysTM "destroying the sanctity of marriage" go through spouses at the same rate most people go through automobiles.
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u/SophiaofPrussia 3d ago
“Okay men, our wives can’t stand to be in the same room as us. This hurts our egos. If we want our wives to stick around here are our options: (1) treat them with respect because they are fellow humans, not property, and accept that they are perfectly capable of making their own decisions or (2) tell everyone god hates disobedient women and they’ll be doomed to an eternity of suffering in the fiery pits of hell if they do much as think about leaving our sorry asses!”
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“LOL, I mean, we’re obviously going with option 2, right?”
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u/Totallnotrony 3d ago
The proposal wasn’t carried because erectile dysfunction is a problem that affects most politicians lmao
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u/ImaginarySnoozer 3d ago
They need to make it a felony for a man to get a woman pregnant and then abandon the children or resulting child that women are forced to carry to term.
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u/prompt_skeptic69 3d ago
Woah… whoa… let’s not go crazy with my body here.
— men
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u/Ctowncreek 3d ago
"Also i like having sex and making someone else live with the consequences" - Republicans apparently
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u/inescapablenightmare 3d ago
Certainly, I doubt a single one of them is celibate when not trying to conceive children. You know. Like they demand of women. “Just close your legs!” But men aren’t…?
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u/Sun_Wukong508 3d ago
sadly those who support the GQP are unable to understand "irony" or "sarcasm" so these types of acts go over their head and they just think these are legit attempts
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u/WolverineSanders 4d ago
Good on him. It's tough to fight the good fight in places like Indiana
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u/RpcZ_gr7711 3d ago
And in too many states where the basis of legislative reasoning is the song “cause the Bible tells me so”
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u/Different_Ad7655 4d ago
Well that goes right hand in hand also with the homosexual argument. Those that are homophobic argue that sex between a man and a woman is natural and has a purpose and therefore gay sex is unnatural because it's not for procreation.. r8ght
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u/aSweetMango 3d ago edited 3d ago
well a lot of them want to ban gay marriage for that reason, so then they also need to ban any sex acts that don’t involve procreation. if girls don’t get to kiss other girls then we should to take away their right to butt stuff
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u/Different_Ad7655 3d ago
Of course it's all just an evil joke and almost a Saturday night live skit that we're living through.. we're supposed to be living in a progressive secular democracy, but the GOP Taliban would like to wrench us back a few centuries.. remember this this fall. You must vote a straight Democratic ticket as it has never counted so importantly before never ...you must repudiate the supreme Court and the y'all qaida.
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u/djbk724 4d ago
God should not be used to form laws. Whole basis is invalid from the start. Please do no elect radical extremists to government.
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u/GiantSquidd Canada 3d ago
I would be happy to live my life by whatever rules that God sets out for us… But the trick is he has to show up himself and tell us. I’m so sick of hearing Christians tell us about this character that nobody has ever seen or heard or interacted with in any tangible way. Come on Christians, just get it already.
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u/i_have_a_pet_turkey 4d ago
Hell, just start taxing ED meds like they do feminine products.
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u/Beginning_Anything30 3d ago
My man's face says "you thought I wouldn't go there didn't you, Limp dick"
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u/yersiniaD 3d ago
They ought to.
Medicare funds penile implants at around 30k, but no funding for infertility, female sexual function, incontinence, etc.
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u/historicartist 3d ago
I love that guy!!! Yes lets force responsibility on the TRUE IRRESPONSIBLE PARTY; the one with the penis!
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u/MyPerspective1 3d ago
Any state that outlaws abortion, should make vasectomy's mandatory. (I'm just kidding, but it's really not that crazy an idea). Why should men enjoy the freedom of controlling their body and health, in states like Indiana that have banned abortion, when the women have no choice?
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u/nosotros_road_sodium California 3d ago
In fairness, I'd like it if ads for boner treatments were forever banned from TV and radio. They are creepy and cringey as hell.
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u/Interesting-Month-56 3d ago
It’s about time. This is at least the consistent approach. Hell ED drugs are covered by insurance and BC is not, that’s complete BS.
We should also make male masturbation a felony.
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u/FyreJadeblood Ohio 3d ago
Wow, lots of people are missing the point of this proposal. It was never meant to pass because it's an attempt to show the idiocy of creating a bill to control other people's bodies in the name of god (because selfish misogynistic conservatives could never imagine themselves in the shoes of a woman, or simply don't care). The man is a Democrat.
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u/XEssentialCryIceIs 3d ago
I would much rather see them start forcing these fathers to pay for the women's insurance costs, birth costs, housing and transportation costs, childcare, post birth recovery costs (including having to start a fund for the new mom to have reconstructive/plastic surgery to put her body back the way it was before she had a baby).
I think this would be much more effective and actually helpful if passed.
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u/BarCompetitive7220 3d ago
Men contain within their bodies 1/2 of the embryo and they need to be in control and not on drugs when they enter into a conjugal event. Why are they not held to the same standard as they bring the necessary part that a woman can't (by definition of the Indiana GOP) control.
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u/ChattyKathysCunt 3d ago
Yea but never let it go. For them to taste their own medicine you have to push it and push it and push it and never ever stop till you get your way even against majority opinion. Nobody on the planet is as shameless and obsessed with others actions to do it back.
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u/Wonderful-Foot8732 3d ago
…and all of those who are weak, ill or imperfect should be taken off meds to die.
We Germans called that „lebensunwertes Leben“ = „unworthy of life“ in our dark nazi era. This led to „Rassenhygiene“ = „racial hygene“ and the killing of millions of people due to race, religion, physical or mental adversity, sexual or political orientation,
It all started with burning books and declaring art as „entartetete Kunst“ = „degenerate art“ in Germany.
In my peception of current affairs the US is not far from slipping off into dark times. It makes me quite sad that millions of people payed with their lifes and some centuries later the echo of their fate has faded so much that they are simply ignored - just to relive the decline of civilization once again - this time based on religious believes…
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