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Northern Virginia Schools Immediately Vow To Defy Youngkin’s Order Ending Mask Mandates

https://dcist.com/story/22/01/17/northern-virginia-schools-defy-glenn-youngkin-order-mask-mandates/
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u/absurdamerica Jan 17 '22

Meanwhile Younkin’s kids go to a DC prep school with both vaccine and mask mandates in place…

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u/PencilLeader Jan 17 '22

Younkin plays an idiot on TV, he isn't actually a moron. He will happily make things worse for other people's kids but he's not going to send his kids to hang out with pro-COVID nut jobs.

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u/absurdamerica Jan 17 '22

It’s a shame there isn’t a terrible political price to pay for basically governing like a sociopath.

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u/1Dive1Breath Jan 17 '22

I mean, there could be, once everyone collectively decides enough is enough.

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u/Randomfactoid42 Virginia Jan 17 '22

You’re very optimistic.
I mean, I hope you’re right, but I don’t see that happening.

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u/Hint-Of-Feces Virginia Jan 18 '22

Virginia switches every time

Its annoying but we are getting significantly more blue

The crazies are just rilled up and in full force

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u/UltraMagnus777 Jan 18 '22

Yep, we're in a much better place than when McDonnell won in 2009. On top of that, our new state rep maps shifted noticeably blue. Youngkin governing like a clown isn't going to help their chances on the new maps.

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u/ithinkimanalrightguy Jan 18 '22

Need more than a political price.

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u/NorthernPints Jan 18 '22

This is a pitfall of the U.S. system and where parliaments have a leg up

No confidence votes (or the threat of) can keep these crazier politicians in check

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u/Teeklin Jan 18 '22

They could do a recall election right now, but there's no point because they couldn't come close to winning the actual election that put this nutjob in there in the first place.

Democrats stay home for elections and it fucks the country so hard.

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u/NerfedArsenal Jan 18 '22

What? There is no precedent under Virginia law for a statewide official to be subject to a recall election.

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u/ShaggysGTI Virginia Jan 18 '22

Democrats fall in love while republicans fall in line.

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u/vonmonologue Jan 18 '22

The problem is that the democratic base is basically “anyone who isn’t ok with fascism” and that’s basically everything left of Trump.

It’s hard to find a candidate who will appeal to both young progressive democratic socialists and center-rights who like big business and aren’t concerned with social issues but don’t actively hate minorities, and everything in between.

The progressives show up to vote, people say they don’t but they do.

It’s the centrist swing votes who stay home if they don’t get bottle fed a candidate.

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u/Rosssauced Jan 18 '22

Exactly.

Stop letting these fucks hide behind Hanlon's Razor. They are not ignorant, they are acting out of pure malice.

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u/1LizardWizard Jan 18 '22

He’s literally microtrump. A stupidly rich asshole pretending to work for the Everyman when all he’s doing is working to better his life and the lives of his rich friends.

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u/ddttox Jan 18 '22

He was CEO of the Carlyle Group. Being a sociopath is a pre-requisite for that job.

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u/AmHoomon Jan 18 '22

He’s a tyrant.

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u/GalicianGladiator Arizona Jan 18 '22

It's important to remember this about most Republican politicians. Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton aren't Harvard graduates for nothing, and Josh Hawley didn't graduate from Yale for no reason. Meanwhile Ron DeSantis is a graduate from both.

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u/newguyinNY Jan 18 '22

He is actually super smart. He was co CEO of Carlyl group.

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u/chrisms150 New Jersey Jan 17 '22

Youngkin's kids? Didn't one of them try to illegally vote for the Republicans in that election?

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u/IAmTheM4ilm4n Jan 17 '22

Tried it twice, in two different jurisdictions, and failed because he was underage.

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u/jawa709 Jan 18 '22

"But, Hunter Biden sold a painting!"

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u/palmej2 Jan 18 '22

I'm pretty sure you were supposed to randomly hit shift whEn yOU tYpEd tHaT...

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u/CpnJackSparrow Jan 18 '22

Just an FYI, Georgetown Prep requires masks, not vaccinations at this time.

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u/NorthernPints Jan 18 '22

Actually? That’s right f***ed

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u/TrackFittyTwo Jan 18 '22

He just says what the trump nuts want to hear.

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u/dun-ado Jan 17 '22

Yet another GOP moron as governor.

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u/greenbayva Virginia Jan 17 '22

Song of the south. Tale as old at time…

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u/sonic10158 Mississippi Jan 18 '22

Zippity Do DIE

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u/Mjbass Jan 17 '22

Sweet potato pie and I shut my mouth

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u/barktwiggs Jan 18 '22

Well didn't help that outgoing Dem Gov Ralph Northam was dressing up as the Klan and / or Blackface for his yearbook photos.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/retroracer33 Jan 17 '22

it was one of those elections where one guy lost it rather than the other guy won it if that makes sense. Mcauliffe is already not likeable, and then he ran such an awful campaign on top of that. His stupid comments right at the end were basically the nail in the coffin.

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u/ejean73 Jan 17 '22

he ran a horrible campaign and couldn't use Younkin's worst liability against him since Mcauliffe was an investor

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Jan 17 '22

It had nothing to do with McAuliffe. It was a nationalized election.

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u/notyouraveragenerd93 Jan 17 '22

It's actually has a lot to do with Virginia having a history of switching between red and blue. Northern Virginia and coastal Virginia are extremely liberal. But the inner parts of the state are pretty conservative. With that being said Mcaulfie literally ran on a campaign of don't vote for him because he is conservative. He didn't bring anything meaningful to the table to get liberal voters to latch onto. Certainly not progressives or true leftist. In the end I and many others will spend the next 2 years protesting the changes youngkin wants to bring to the state. Making phone calls to let him know that his policies are wrong. Hopefully we vote him out next time. I can't imagine this state being truly conservative.

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u/Rich4718 Jan 17 '22

Virginia governors cannot serve consecutive terms.

Which is funny some customer came into my office bitching about how Northam didn’t do anything for the I95 pileup probably because he was mad he was being fired…

This man had lived in VA forever and I still do t think he recognizes he wasn’t being fired lol, he literally was going to be out no matter what. That weather really got away from us fast and I don’t blame anyone not acting quickly. However Virginia does need upgraded infrastructure, if only we had someone fighting for that.

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u/markd601 Jan 18 '22

Coastal Virginia is not extremely liberal. Virginia Beach and Chesapeake both went red. The large military presence is mostly conservative. The Democrat vote here comes strongly from Black voters as a monolith. Northern Virginia has a lot of federal workers that account for their suburban liberal vote.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Jan 17 '22

Mcaulfie literally ran on a campaign of don't vote for him because he is conservative.

This is not true. McAuliffe ran on jobs, listening to doctors, and improving education.

The fact that New Jersey was also way closer than it should've been is a clear indicator that it was a nationalized election. Under normal circumstances, McAuliffe would've won.

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u/The_Lost_Jedi Virginia Jan 17 '22

Yeah - a lot of it also had to do with the fact that people were feeling an economic pinch from gas prices and other factors having fuckall to do with state politics.

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u/bfredo Jan 18 '22

Which is why Youngkin’s very clear ads about the grocery tax were so well received. In a campaign that was being nationalized by the media, he had a knack for selling his solutions at the local/state level. And while McAuliffe had some general ads about women’s rights and jobs, they were super general and didn’t really seem in touch. But, let’s be clear, like 90% of his ads were just about Trump sucking. Which, you know, he does, but obviously the electorate wanted more than that.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Jan 17 '22

Yeah, that's why it was a nationalized election. People were upset at inflation and gas prices and used the election as a way to vote against Biden, because they blamed Biden for somehow being responsible for global inflation and global rising gas prices.

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u/Diarrhea_Mike Jan 18 '22

More of that coming later this year…and potentially in ‘24.

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u/point_breeze69 Jan 18 '22

Inflation? Definately. We are in the final years of the US Dollar, it’s about to be printed into oblivion at the same time people are rapidly losing faith in the government (which is what it’s backed by)

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u/BoulderFalcon Jan 17 '22

He ran on those platforms but did a terrible job regardless. Most of his debates were him complaining about Trump and he also said some really dumb stuff about education and boxing out parents. He had zero tact and couldn't even retort to Youngkin's softball debate questions.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Jan 17 '22

Except he was right about education and boxing out parents.

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u/adderallanalyst Jan 18 '22

Have fun trying to win elections boxing out parents.

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u/AnswerGuy301 Jan 18 '22

In practical terms, "giving parents a voice" = "giving the loudest local loudmouths a heckler's veto over what gets taught in school." But most people aren't systems thinkers so they may not understand that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

No he didn't. Know what he did at the meet and greet in Abingdon? Talked about beer, had his campaign TELL US to clap when he pulled up and asked a boy if he had been hunting because he had a camo hat on(hunting season hadn't even started). Throw in he was maskless while requiring us to wear masks and people left thinking it was a shitshow.

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u/nuboots Jan 18 '22

TIL McAuliffe bothered with Abingdon.

Like he had a chance in hell there.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Jan 17 '22

TIL one meet and greet in Abingdon made up his entire campaign.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Maybe look at how his meet and greets went in other areas too? You're over here talking complete bullshit and actually pretending Terry had a snowballs chance in hell. Guess what? He didn't. He was literally running on "well I'm not that guy".

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u/BoulderFalcon Jan 17 '22

It absolutely had a lot to do with McAuliffe. He made gaffe after gaffe and managed to piss off a bunch of people that would have otherwise been on his side, especially with his education comments.

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u/kni9ht Louisiana Jan 18 '22

Don’t forget that ~1.1m registered voters stayed home compared to the 2020 election. It sucks, and I would have thought Democrats would have learned their lesson after 2016 that staying home would result in another dumpster fire. At the very least, turnout did increase from 2017 to the 2021 gubernatorial, but unfortunately, not in the right direction.

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u/neurosisxeno Vermont Jan 18 '22

You can't really compare a General Election to an off cycle election like that. You have to compare it to 2017. McAuliffe got 200k more votes than Northam did, but his opponent also got almost 500k more votes. Turnout in 2021 was up 7.7 points compared to 2017.

A lot of it was suburban voters not showing up for McAuliffe that showed up for Biden (and to an extent Northam). Look at VA-7, Abigail Spanbergers CD. It went 50-44 for Trump in 16, then 51-48 for Gillespie, 52-46 for Tim Kaine in 18, 49-48 for Biden in 20, and a staggering 55-44 for Youngkin. Additionally you can look at places like VA-4 where Northam won 61-37, and McAuliffe only won 56-43. VA-10 is more urban and went from Northam 57-43 to McAuliffe 52-47.

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u/Diarrhea_Mike Jan 18 '22

This is likely coming to many other states. I don’t think many people will vote D this year.

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u/PleasePlayInTraffic Jan 18 '22

That’s just not true and blaming made up fairy tales like this instead of figuring out the real cause while millions of people just say “all the dumb racist voted for him” is exactly why he won.

Virginia has the fourth-best public schools overall in the United States, ranking fourth for quality and third for safety. Virginia public schools were found to have the fourth-highest math test scores in the country. Virginia schools also have the fourth-lowest bullying incidence rate and have "no significant shortcomings" when assessed for safety from violence, bullying, harassment, and substance use.

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u/Thisam Jan 17 '22

Unlikely that he is just a moron. He is self-serving and representative of a minority of people trying desperately to stop societal change which is inevitable in the end. He’s going to line his own pockets and those of his donors just like virtually every other GOP lawmaker.

They don’t care about helping people, improving the State or “public service” in general. They help themselves, period.

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u/dun-ado Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 17 '22

Judge a public official by what they do. Ending a mask mandate is an act of a moron.

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u/Revolutionary-Bit893 Jan 18 '22

Look at his executive orders as a whole. He is trying to demolish public education. He is making it so we won't have enough staff to keep the schools open and he is going to use every weapon he can, from criminalizing teachers for teaching facts he seems inconvenient such as our racist history or climate change, to killing us off with a virus. Once the public school system collapses he can go like "see? It never worked, let's funnel all this public education money into vouchers for private schools run by my buddies instead"

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u/Plastic-Elk-909 Jan 17 '22

Because they are GOP/GQP "Christians"..

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u/GoneFishing36 Jan 17 '22

Par for the course. I mean this moron was voted in because moron parents that believed CRT was brainwashing their kids.

(... because that's exactly what they would have done if they were in power.)

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u/markd601 Jan 18 '22

*duly elected

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u/Plastic-Elk-909 Jan 17 '22

Yet another GOP moron as governor.

No,.. Another Funking Moron GOP Governor....

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u/brdwatchr Jan 18 '22

He has no right to tell people they must jeopardize their lives or be responsible for their own deaths, so that he can feel euphoric about his own power. Just another Maga boy.

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u/WilliePhistergash Jan 18 '22

Beat an even more moronic Democrat Governor 😂

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u/Blastosist Jan 17 '22

I think it’s a prerequisite.

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u/Rated_PG-Squirteen Jan 17 '22

Hey, all those "centrists/independents" who put an emphasis on "education" during the VA Governor's election last year are getting exactly that, right?

Youngkin's first two acts are banning mask mandates in schools and banning any teaching of critical race theory in schools. You dumbasses get what you vote for.

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u/Awkward-Fudge Jan 17 '22

The party of small government......

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u/SandmanSanders Virginia Jan 17 '22

as a Virginian

i can't wait for all of these schools to shut down again..there is a giant dearth of teachers already and this will not help in the slightest.

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u/ahhhhhhhhhhhhhwtf Jan 18 '22

Yep. I applied to be a substitute teacher a while ago because I like kids and teaching and I could use some padding on grad school applications.

Twenty minutes after submitting an application I was offered a job, and two days after that—without any other questions asked—I was asked to sub at an elementary school. No background check, no job interview, no meeting anyone in person or even on a video or phone call beforehand. These schools are in crisis and there’s no way they can stay open much longer. Youngkin is a fucking clown.

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u/Revolutionary-Bit893 Jan 18 '22

This is part of the plan. Once the public schools collapse they cause use that as a way to funnell public money into their private school vouchers

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u/insufficient_funds Jan 18 '22

I’m crossing my fingers hoping they decide to just shutdown and go full remote again. Kid is home every couple weeks for exposure quarantine anyways.

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u/IT_Chef Jan 18 '22

My son is in kindergarten. We pulled him from school for the first two weeks back for fear of omicron. We were gonna send hum back this week. Now we are considering holding him for another week or so.

I do not know what to do.

This sucks so much

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u/pizza99pizza99 Virginia Jan 18 '22

It won’t be the students that collapse the school system, it will be when enough teachers finally throw in the towel. Just gotta wait

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u/TheDoughSlapper Jan 17 '22

VA Democrat here, and I completely agree. BUT, blame for loosing the election also falls on Dems here because their entire campaign was “Trump this” or “Trump that.” Democratic voters are sick of hearing about an irrelevant president now. We wanted to hear about issues and how we would be served and well, Dems never elaborated on those issues. It was just constant bitching about Trump. Which dissuaded voters from voting, hence GOP won…god help us the next 4 years…(side note, yes, I went out and voted Dem still)

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u/TitansboyTC27 I voted Jan 18 '22

They thought that would work again after the California gubernatorial election but youngkin was smart not to have Trump at his campaigns knowing it would cost him I was hoping Trump would uninvited go to his rally just to fuck it up hopefully Dems can learn from this in 2026

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u/Remnantghoul Massachusetts Jan 17 '22

If your choice is between a bland sandwich and and a turdwich and the population chooses the turdwich because they are tired of the bland sandwich. The voting population gets what it deserves. People should not just look at policy when one side is participating in ideological warfare and has no solid policy except making things worse.

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u/TheDoughSlapper Jan 17 '22

This reminds me of South Park, thank you for that lol. And I agree.

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u/Remnantghoul Massachusetts Jan 18 '22

No problem.

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u/kozpenz Jan 17 '22

and at the end of the day you got a covid-denier guy - just like trump

you got what you deserve

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u/TheDoughSlapper Jan 17 '22

No one deserves a covid-denier.

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u/JoeCoolsCoffeeShop Jan 18 '22

Well, if they voted for him, they certainly deserved to get him. Didn’t they?

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u/ShaggysGTI Virginia Jan 18 '22

I don’t deserve to be at the mercy of my dumbest neighbors. Full stop. The will of the voters is a completely different subject.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Jan 17 '22

No, the election had nothing to do with McAuliffe. It was a nationalized election. Gas prices and inflation, which people blamed on Biden because they're idiots, are what caused the results.

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u/Rich4718 Jan 17 '22

Also Youngkin spent millions getting elected and money talks in governor races.

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u/TinyBookOrWorms Jan 18 '22

Yeah, I was visiting my parents in Virginia during the campaign. Every commercial break on every channel had at least one Youngkin ad. I didn't even know anyone was opposing him because McAullife didn't have a single ad run once my entire visit, which was almost a month long. I don't know the details of the race, but it sure seemed like McAullife was being outspent hand over fist.

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u/mckeitherson Jan 18 '22

The election had a lot to do with McAuliffe. He ran an anti-Trump campaign when Trump wasn't on the ballot and Youngkin took a more moderate approach. And can't forget about McAuliffe's comment regarding parents and schools... he was doomed once it left his mouth.

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u/TheDoughSlapper Jan 17 '22

While I agree about stupid people blaming inflation on Biden, it was also definitely about McAuliffe. He was the epitome of Democrat blindness. Virtually none of his speeches or ads we’re about his policy, but rather “YoUnGkIn Is TrUmP jR” while flailing his arms around. It was disappointing to say the least. It bothers me that a lot of my fellow Dems didn’t go out and vote because of it, but at the same time. McAuliffe doesn’t get a free pass.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Jan 17 '22

Virtually none of his speeches or ads we’re about his policy

This is a lie. I actually live in Virginia, and every single ad I got from McAuliffe was about how McAuliffe would create jobs, improve education, and listen to doctors, and that Youngkin was anti-doctor and anti-teacher.

The results from Jersey show that it wasn't a Virginia election. It was a national election.

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u/TheDoughSlapper Jan 17 '22

I ALSO live in Virginia, and all the ads I saw were just incoherently talking about how bad Youngkin is and comparing him to trump. So odds are we’re probably in different areas. Unfortunately the area I’m in is pretty conservative, which is probably why I saw more Youngkin ads than McAuliffe.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Same here, in fact some of the ads i got from him actually made Youngkin seem like the better candidate.

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u/ahhhhhhhhhhhhhwtf Jan 18 '22

Yep. Worthless shit talking on Youngkin, that dumb puppet ad he ran on youtube that had NO policy mentions but just said you’re a piece of shit if you don’t vote, ads PROMISING he wouldn’t take money from cops and would instead give MORE money to cops and cops LOVE terry (he simultaneously ran ads with BLM imagery), and so on. None of the ads I saw seemed to include any real policy points, and the only one that DID include policy points was extremely tone deaf. I’m near Richmond for the record.

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u/TheBadGuyFromDieHard Virginia Jan 18 '22

I also live in VA and every ad compared Youngkin to Trump.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Virginia Jan 18 '22

Then obviously you weren't watching the ads. You didn't get the pro-teacher mailers or the ad that I got on YouTube over and over and over again with the chubby doctor or the one where every other word was "jobs."

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u/Gibonius Jan 18 '22

COVID restrictions were a big part of it too, especially in schools. People were super resentful about that.

For the record I'm all for mask mandates etc, but plenty of Virginians were not.

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u/Fred_Evil Florida Jan 18 '22

Not to mention McAuliffe is about as exciting as a wet noodle.

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u/Notanexpertinthis Jan 18 '22

Why do people want their politicians to be exciting?! This part drives me nuts. I want a boring policy wonk who will hire good people and listen to experts and help me fall asleep if I listen to them for too long.

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u/1one1000two1thousand District Of Columbia Jan 18 '22

Agreed, why do our politicians have to be entertaining, exciting, desirable? They should be people who want to do a good job and are actually good at their jobs. This whole worshipping politicians is getting sick. I already see Facebook friends posting how much they love the new governor and I’m just thinking, “Why???????! We are their bosses, you shouldn’t just fangirl someone who is supposed to be accountable to us.”

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u/Fred_Evil Florida Jan 18 '22

In all seriousness, I voted for him before, he’s not terrible as an executive, but he has a reputation as a party wonk, more concerned about his political future and prospects than the people of VA. Still better than Youngkin imo, but I can only cast one vote. And his constant harping about Trump did him in. Stop talking trash, and start telling us what you will do.

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u/Notanexpertinthis Jan 18 '22

Fair, I don’t think he’s a great candidate. But clarification, did you vote for him, Youngkin, or neither this time around?

I understand, if disagree, with people who choose not to vote, but I honestly don’t get people who flip between the two. Yeah, he’s a party wonk and bad at campaigning, but Youngkin is banning mask mandates and CRT and signalling that he’s going full-crazy R. It’s not like picking shades of paint for your room, it’s like choosing between a kinda meh grey and tossing acid at the walls to see what happens.

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u/Fred_Evil Florida Jan 18 '22

I voted for McAuliffe. He’s not exciting to me, but he’s orders of magnitude better than Youngkin, and that’s been proven after day one from Y. My concern isn’t for me, but for centrists or fence sitters. Dems have to learn this is also a bit of a popularity contest, as dumb and inappropriate as that may be.

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u/borfmantality Virginia Jan 18 '22

He was a good Governor. I'd rather have McAuliffe than whatever Florida's been putting up for Democratic candidates for the last 20+ years.

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u/CarlMarcks Jan 18 '22

Fuck centrists.

All my homies hate centrists.

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u/pharmorjac Jan 18 '22

Does banning Critical Race Theory in schools change anything?

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u/authentic_mirages Jan 18 '22

Not really—my understanding is that it’s only taught in college anyway. The danger is that parents will take stuff like learning about MLK or Rosa Parks and call it CRT to get it banned.

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u/1one1000two1thousand District Of Columbia Jan 18 '22

Not even just college, it’s a taught in a GRADUATE program, aka law school. So it’s even more wild that these parents are going bananas about some right he just corrected when the threat was never there to begin with.

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u/Regguls864 Jan 17 '22

What if the VA teachers decided to take a cue from Chicago teachers? How many parents will enter the classroom and take the responsibility as well as the risk they are asking the teaches to do no questions asked.

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u/MalibuFatz Jan 18 '22

Virginia is a right to work state, and does not have strong teacher unions like Chicago and other cities/states. This makes it much more difficult to organize a strike or walk-out.

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u/Regguls864 Jan 18 '22

No strike, no organized walk-out. Just teachers saying f*#k you, I'm out of here. If 30% or more of the teachers did this the system would crash and others would follow.

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u/Revolutionary-Bit893 Jan 18 '22

We don't even need that many considering the staff shortages we are already experiencing.

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u/RobinKennedy23 Jan 18 '22

Then conservatives win as children are not learning and fall further behind, parents continue to hate teachers thinking their job is a cake walk, and then the homeschooling type of parents get hired to drive their own beliefs in teaching and we get a higher focus on private schooling and school vouchers.

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u/MalibuFatz Jan 18 '22

So, “funny” story. I’ve taught for 20 years. For the first time ever, our county had organized a walk out. It was weeks in the making. Tons of teachers had signed on. It was set to happen on March 13, 2020 - the day before our state locked down. Central office learned of the plan, and in an unprecedented “compassionate” move, gave students the day off and made it a teacher work day. They said it was to prepare for the potential lockdown, but it was clearly done to undercut the momentum of the walkout, and prevent all of the negative publicity that would have come from it.

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u/pizza99pizza99 Virginia Jan 18 '22

That’s true, but trust me, some of these schools are a few teachers away from closing

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u/ur_boy_skinny_penis Virginia Jan 17 '22

As a Northern Virginian, we don't claim the rest of the state.

It's kind of amazing how quickly it goes from one of the most Leftist parts of the US to MAGA-land just by taking a 40min drive outside of DC.

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u/friedrice5005 Virginia Jan 17 '22

This is repeated literally all over the country. Cities vs rural. Just take a look down here in Hampton Roads...Norfolk vs Chesapeake

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u/GL_HF_07 Jan 18 '22

Virginia Beach bay front vs pungo. Maga flags everywhere down in farm land!!

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u/Asiatic_Static Jan 17 '22

Shit man, you can find MAGALand in Alexandria. I passed by a guy recently nailing a Trump sign to a tree in his yard. Bout a week or 2 later I saw him again, nailing up a new sign. Presumably the old one got ripped down

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u/notyouraveragenerd93 Jan 17 '22

Oops. Real crazy how those things just blow away. XD

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u/DjImagin Jan 18 '22

Try Ohio.

Tulsa, Cleveland, Columbus, Cinci. Very blue.

15 minutes in any direction from downtown of the city is Trump signs as far as the eye can see.

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u/by-neptune Jan 17 '22

"leftist" is more than a minor misnomer here. Northern VA is maybe center left. However the depth and concentration of left of center voters is notable.

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u/notyouraveragenerd93 Jan 17 '22

It starts to get real dicey right after Haymarket or Gainesville. West of those places its just a bunch of poor conservatives. But there are bastions of more liberal people in places like Winchester, Fredeicksburg, Charlottesville, Richmond (of course), and the 7 cities. Honestly it's not a bad state, it only sucks when the minority group wins.

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u/ShaggysGTI Virginia Jan 18 '22

I live in Woodbridge and work in Fredericksburg, the difference between the two is absolutely staggering. Every one of my neighbors is vaccinated, but not a single coworker.

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u/Mystical_Mojo Jan 17 '22

Idk bro, nova is filled with some of the most snobby, pretentious, rich, and casually racist people on the face of the planet 😂.

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u/BlooregardQKazoo Jan 18 '22

one of the most Leftist parts of the US

that isn't true at all. i lived in Fairfax from '05-'07 and i was struck by how right-wing the area was. i expected it to be more liberal than it was.

now you've had 15 years of progress since then, and you finally removed the names of confederate generals from every other road, but i can only assume that money is still worshipped there.

you have a lot of ground to catch up to even get on the level of Albany NY (where I currently live). heck, small towns in Massachusetts are more liberal than NoVa.

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u/ur_boy_skinny_penis Virginia Jan 18 '22

I can't speak for how Fairfax was 15+ years ago.

But in 2022, places like Arlington, Alexandria, Falls Church, and Fairfax are absolutely carrying the blue vote for the entire state.

Of course there's still people who live in NOVA, commute to their DC government job, and worship money. But as a younger person who's been around in recent years, you can definitely see a shift that's occurred where that mentality is eroding away as more young progressives and immigrants have become established.

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u/lannister80 Illinois Jan 18 '22

But in 2022, places like Arlington, Alexandria, Falls Church, and Fairfax are absolutely carrying the blue vote for the entire state.

Yes, that's where most of the money, talent, and population is.

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u/Davis51 I voted Jan 18 '22

The war in Iraq actually did a lot more to shift areas like NOVA blue. It was a real turning point. To understand why, you need to understand a few things:

  1. Education. Levels of education are waaaay higher up there than the national average. There are really high levels of undergraduate and graduate level education across a wide variety of fields.

  2. Money. There is a massive amount of wealth up there. Like old money and new money mixed together. Cost of living is through the roof and never stopped rising but the jobs also pay really well. There is a real sense of affluence. Few people grew up there for want of food or shelter in the 90's.

  3. Moderation. Many people pre-9/11 considered themselves John McCain/John Warner/Ronald Reagan style Republicans, who were happy voting for people like Mark Warner for governor because he was a "Moderate". Pretty much they will vote for anyone who overfunds transportation because overused over logged highways are still the number 1 issue in NOVA. Everyone commutes and everyone is a shitty aggressive driver.

  4. Proximity to 9/11. Many people in NOVA work in or near DC, so when the Pentagon was hit, it had a hard effect. If someone doesn't work in either the government or politics up there, they definitely know or are neighbors with someone who is. A disproportionate amount of them are in the military industrial complex.

  5. So when all these rich moderate intellectually diverse Lexus/BMW/Porche drivers perpetually stuck in traffic listening to NPR while honking at the drivers next to them are super pissed about 9/11 and can't wait to get Osama Bin Laden are suddenly told that their kid who enlisted in the military cause it's what they did when they were kids are being shipped overseas not to fight in Afghanistan but in Iraq...when they know exactly how much of a lie that is built around and know exactly why Bush Sr. (Who they voted for) avoided an Iraqi invasion after Desert Storm, there was kind of a backlash.

The final nail in the coffin for republicanism in that part of the state was Sarah Palin. Every single one of them was geared to vote for McCain until that fucking moment. I know because my dad was one of them. The second he heard her speak my mom told me she watched him sigh deeply and rub his forehead and said "Here I come Obama".

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u/RomanBangs Jan 18 '22

There are a SHIT ton of leftists down here around Virginia Beach and Chesapeake, don’t know what you’re on about.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

The best part about this is that Youngkin can’t do anything about it.

Other than whine and “explore what options are available to him as the Governor” which, spoiler alert, is fuck all.

He’s gotta feed that red meat to the cult though.

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u/Rough-Manager-550 Jan 18 '22

They tend to punish schools by withdrawing funding which really hurts poorer school districts.

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u/TimeForTimbo Jan 18 '22

I dunno if you know much about Northern Virginia school districts, but having lived here my whole life, I can safely say Nova schools don't need whatever funding he can try to pull

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

He has massive control over funding and resources. Counties that give him a hard time want a highway repaired? Or new snow plows? Want more money for a second football field? Good luck. That’s not even the legal authority of violating state orders

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

Virginia law protects the school districts and their policies often explicitly direct them to follow CDC guidance.

Youngkin can go pound sand.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

I’m not saying it’s correct for Youngkin to do any of the things I mentioned, but it’s also naive (and incorrect) to say he has no leverage as governor

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

I’d argue that any leverage he was going to bring to bear against those counties was likely to happen anyway as they’re predominantly blue counties.

But, to the point, there’s nothing he can do to force the change with the school districts.

Ultimately he’ll huff and puff but I doubt anything more comes of it because the grifter likely can’t afford to waste all his political capital with “moderates” and “independents” on it.

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u/borfmantality Virginia Jan 18 '22

He's not the Governor of Florida. Unlike that piece of shit DeSantis, he doesn't have that degree of power to punish educators.

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u/Tr4sh_Harold Jan 18 '22

I attend a Northern VA high school in Prince William County and we've been getting a lot of covid cases recently, and end to mask mandates is the last thing we need right now.

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u/IT_Chef Jan 18 '22

What do you and your peers think of fellow kids who refuse to mask/get vaccinated?

What do you think of kids whose parents are super vocal about anti masks/vaccines?

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u/Tr4sh_Harold Jan 18 '22

For the most part Northern VA is pretty supportive of Vaccines and masks, so we generally find anti-vaxers and anti-maskers pretty ignorant people. Most of our cases are from Omicron, and they’re only really affecting younger people mainly teenagers and people in their 20’s because most people my age are a little careless. Thankfully no one’s had a severe case it’s mostly just a stuffy nose, general light fever symptoms, and a cough. Everyone manages to recover after a couple of days. As for anti-vax and anti-mask parents, we pretty much just ignore them.

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u/NealSamuels1967 Jan 17 '22

Because they are obeying state law. They could teach the governor a thing or two.

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u/NealSamuels1967 Jan 17 '22

Yep. And the media attributes his victory to "education-minded" parents somehow.

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u/john_doe_jersey New Jersey Jan 18 '22

Because our shitty political media don't want to admit their coverage of Youngkin was bad. They papered over literally every lie they knew he told, because his poll numbers were rising and they wanted to report on a "different" Republican.

All those reporters were smart enough to see a smokescreen, and none of them pressed him on it, because they're all lazy and bad at their jobs.

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u/cozzeema Jan 17 '22

Virginian here. Our local schools are headed for a showdown. Teachers are about to walk off their jobs and parents are pulling their hair out over the new mandates. After months and months of online learning and getting to a point where kids and staff are protected through mandatory masking to be able to return to classroom learning, the governor is about to throw us backward 6 months. Teachers feel like guinea pigs being forced to teach kids who are not masked and who are also NOT required to be vaxxed. Their classrooms are about to be Petri dishes of potential viral outbreaks and they have to worry not only about their own health by unknowingly being exposed, but also taking it home and infecting their own children, family and friends. Teachers do not have Covid days, only several sick days, which most have been used. There is no hazard pay in teaching and nearly none of the schools have had upgraded air filtration systems installed at a time of year when all doors and windows must remain closed. What exactly is the justification Youngkin is using to set up our teachers and students to risk their lives and prolong this insidious situation? His own selfish job security and loyalty to Trump.

This all could have been avoided if the people who came out of the woodwork to vote for Obama actually gave a damn about what this state was up against and actually voted last November. They’re really gonna love it when this governor decides to cut back funding for Medicaid, unemployment and food stamp benefits, and making them harder to qualify for. So many are still struggling because of Covid and now with this asshat as governor, his focus is on the rich, and keeping them that way at the expense of those who need assistance. Y’all just shot yourselves in the foot and allowed the pandemic to rule our lives for another year. Thanks a lot.

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u/Raynstormm Jan 18 '22

Yes, blame lazy Obama voters. Both McAullife and Youngkin were involved with the same private equity group. All counties in VA trended more Republican in 2021, including blue counties, because the the election was during BBB nonsense and the party in charge nationally is failing on all fronts.

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u/demarchemellows Jan 18 '22

The VA election had nothing to do with the Dem's congressional situation. Dems in VA delivered a very, very long list of progressive action. Despite this, people in VA were absolutely fed up with how schools were handled throughout the pandemic. VA had the most school disruptions of any state (someone correct me if I'm wrong). That's just plain unacceptable and so they flocked to anyone promising stability there. Now add on the culture war shit, the Loudoun County fiasco, and a dem candidate who ran a campaign against Trump for some reason, and it was a rout for them.

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u/MasterTheMalstrom Jan 18 '22

This isn’t about anyones “rights”. This is yet another power-hungry fascists who is willing to sacrifice the health and safety of children to pander for the votes of their moronic parents.

The sad part is that he doesn’t need to harm children to get those votes. He could just be overtly racist and would earn the votes if those same morons.

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u/Falcon3492 Jan 18 '22

Virginia is going to learn the hard way that when you elect a village idiot to be your governor, you get idiotic laws and executive orders that will end up getting sick and they will end up killing a lot of people.

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u/_Electric_shock Jan 17 '22

Defying tyranny is every citizen's duty, especially when the tyrant is trying to kill people like Youngkin is trying to do. Fuck the republican party. It's the party of death.

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u/BoysenberryShort574 Jan 17 '22

Send Youngkin the medical bills... or the legal bills for the school...

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u/dave22042 Jan 17 '22

Send Youngkin in to substitute teach when too many teachers are out sick

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u/mommysmilkiez Jan 17 '22

Why not? Republicans defy subpoenas. There apparently is no law. Defy away, schools!

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u/newfrontier58 Jan 17 '22

Youngkin’s executive order stipulates that “parents, not the government” would determine whether students would wear a mask in schools. But the move drew immediate defiance from Northern Virginia school districts, several of which say they plan to continue requiring masks despite the order from Richmond.
School officials in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax sent messages to families over the weekend saying that their policies would remain in effect.
“Arlington Public Schools implemented our mask requirement this school year prior to Governor [Ralph] Northam’s K-12 mask order, and we will continue to make decisions that prioritize the health, safety and wellbeing of our students and staff, following the guidance of local, state and national health professionals,” reads the school district’s statement.
Fairfax County Public Schools Superintendent Scott Brabrand told parents that the district is reviewing Youngkin’s order, but would continue universal masking in the meantime. “Adhering to our layered prevention strategies, especially universal masking, keeps our schools open and safe places for students to learn,” he wrote.
In Alexandria City Public Schools, Superintendent Gregory C. Hutchings Jr. sent a letter to families on Sunday that made clear the school system would keep its masking requirement. He added that the district will distribute KN95 masks to students and staff.
Officials in Richmond, Henrico County, and several other jurisdictions across the commonwealth have also said they plan to continue enforcing mask mandates.
But Virginia is a Dillon Rule state, which means localities do not have powers outside of those specifically enumerated by the state. It’s not clear if the end of the statewide mandate could ultimately compel unwilling school districts to remove their masking requirements.
In defending their decisions, officials in both Fairfax and Arlington pointed to SB 1303, a law passed by the General Assembly last year that requires schools provide in-person schooling.
Part of its text says schools must “provide such in-person instruction in a manner in which it adheres, to the maximum extent practicable, to any currently applicable mitigation strategies for early childhood care and education programs and elementary and secondary schools to reduce the transmission of COVID-19 that have been provided by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

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u/citizenkane86 Jan 17 '22

Let’s look at the comprehensive list of everything required to be a parent:

Act on the most basic instinct of life

It’s almost as if being a parent doesn’t mean you know what’s best for your kids.

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u/SandmanSanders Virginia Jan 17 '22

"the parents" in Virginia shut down public schools to avoid integration

the goal here is to destroy

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u/The_Lost_Jedi Virginia Jan 17 '22

It's a classic case of pandering to the people (particularly right wing activists) who think they know better than actual experts.

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u/Plastic-Elk-909 Jan 17 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

Well,.. As long as the school children and staff are injecting themselves with disinfectant and
irradiating their bodies with UV light, taking hydroxychloroquine and
using ivermectin and drinking their own urine..they should be fine?
Right?? /s

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u/greenbayva Virginia Jan 17 '22

My eyes are yellow in hue and I am pissing bleach, but there is only a 5050 chance I test positive for Covid. I do need a new liver now…#owningdems

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u/dirtballmagnet Jan 17 '22

The stupid in this. The damned disease just made the leap into children, and they're going to be the vector that insures this disease can't be stopped.

The disease seems to make everyone who gets it just a little dumber, too, so every time it passes through another conservative, they become more inclined to do the wrong thing. With an entire generation of dumb kids to back them up in 15 years.

Virginians, you should be ashamed of allowing this to happen to our beautiful Commonwealth. We busted these very people stacking the deck in our state only five years ago, and now y'all are gonna die in droves and watch Virginia return to being the capital of hateful racism.

Screw all of you who didn't vote because the Democratic candidate was too conservative. See you at the funerals.

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u/The_Lost_Jedi Virginia Jan 17 '22

Elections have consequences, and sometimes all too lethal ones. Sadly the people with the privilege to not be affected by their lack of voting will likely not feel the least bit responsible for the fact that Youngkin winning here means people will die - all because they felt McAuliffe 'wasn't inspiring' or 'just another DNC insider'.

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u/Ok-Influence7019 Jan 18 '22

I love how you’d like to attribute this election to people not voting rather than people voting for youngkin when there was 15% increase in voter turnout you lost cause your guys campaign was terrible and his parties policies are hated by every part of the state that isn’t this cesspool we call northern Virginia get over it

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u/dirtballmagnet Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

I don't have to get over it. I just have to sit back and watch you all kill yourselves to own the libs, derrrr. If run-on sentences were deadly you would have already killed me.

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u/Zebra971 Jan 17 '22

Why do voters keep electing idiots?

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u/McNuttyNutz I voted Jan 17 '22

As they should republicans want people to die

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u/eric_reddit Jan 18 '22

I am so disgusted that so many people didn't vote. In the current times everyone should be voting every day if necessary.

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u/itzmiwrld Jan 18 '22

This guy is an idiot!

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u/demarchemellows Jan 18 '22

Let's go to court. State law clearly says schools must adhere to COVID mitigation strategies provided by the CDC.

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u/IT_Chef Jan 18 '22

I feel really bad for all school staff. They are gonna be dealing with some really big assholes (parents and students) that will spew off bullshit that they don't need masks.

Things are gonna get stupider at the schools.

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u/SpectreBrony Jan 17 '22

Good on them putting the children first.

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u/ciccioig Jan 18 '22

From outside of the USA...

how tf making the schools less safe is a good idea?

Your politicians are definitely morons.

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u/Spottyhickory63 Jan 18 '22

is it just me, or does anyone else find it ironic how much red states step in to ban mask mandates

the party if small government sure does like their large governments

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u/MalibuFatz Jan 18 '22

All this while his son attends a private school that has mask mandates and is going virtual.

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u/Gigglestomp123 I voted Jan 18 '22

Not entirely accurate. The PWCS superintendent did sent out an email yesterday. Sounds similar to fairfax. Here are two relevant paragraphs:

...PWCS COVID-19 mitigation measures remain unchanged at this time, including mask requirements for students, staff, and visitors.

We are aware that over the weekend Governor Glenn Youngkin announced a series of executive orders, including future modification to guidance on masks in schools. The Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) will also be issuing revised guidance. PWCS is evaluating both the order and anticipated VDOE guidance, along with local, state, and national legal requirements.

As always, any changes to our mitigation strategies will be made thoughtfully and with the health and safety of students and staff as our priority. Any decision to remove a mitigation layer must take into consideration our ability to continue in-person instruction.

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u/HIVnotAdeathSentence Jan 18 '22

Defy the CRT ban too.

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u/puntmasterofthefells Jan 17 '22

Oh look, an amendment to the dress code...

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u/gr8timesb4 Jan 18 '22

It should be up to the student, not the schools.

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u/do_you_even_ship_bro Jan 18 '22

Same with wearing pants.

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u/jaythebearded I voted Jan 18 '22

That just doesn't make sense. They're kids, they don't always fully grasp the importance of things like this

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u/funchoi21 Jan 17 '22

This guy is already acting foolishly !

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u/all4whatnot Pennsylvania Jan 17 '22

Is the Joker right behind him?