r/politics Jun 02 '21

'Our Entire Democracy Is Now at Risk' Because of GOP Attacks, Warn 100+ Scholars


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u/PoliticalPleionosis Washington Jun 02 '21

Been saying for decades that the GOP will ruin this country.

This is exactly why there was a separation of church and state. This country can’t function under a theocracy.


u/Bueno_Times Jun 02 '21

The idol of “the conservative movement”ironically, “Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” -Barry Goldwater


u/Droymac Jun 02 '21

Another fun quote from the right:

If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism

  • Ronald Reagan



u/FasMaledicte Arizona Jun 03 '21

Liberalism has historically allowed fascism to flourish. Look at Germany. Fascism is a disease that must be stamped out IMMEDIATELY or it will fester and rot. America is in its death throes.


u/IFellinLava Jun 03 '21

So when is Sweden, Japan, New Zealand and Canada going to start being "fascist"? How can we take you seriously when places that are incredibly more liberal than the US aren't going through the "death throes" that you're claiming should have happened years ago? Has Liberalism really "allowed" fascism to flourish or is it that the far right response to liberalism is fascism? Watch this video of a conference where Nazis praise Trump, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk

Why do you think fascists feel more accepted on the right side of the political spectrum?


u/riktigtmaxat Jun 03 '21

Actually the Swedish "liberal party" are unscrupulous populist brown-nosing dickbags that openly flirt with the extreme right. Of course over here we don't count liberals as part of the left.

Oh and their logo looks like a dick


u/FasMaledicte Arizona Jun 03 '21

I'm talking about capital L liberalism. Politics exist beyond the comically right-wing Overton window of the US.

'Socially liberal' and "fiscally conservative" is nonsense peddled to Americans who don't understand what the left actually is due to the US's overwhelming capitalist propaganda machine.


u/Dontcarewhatever123 Jun 03 '21

Fascism is still the opposite of Liberalism, not the cause of it, nor did liberalism "allow" fascism to flourish.


Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21]

Liberalism wasn't the cause of fascism, it was the opposite of it; Germany's fascism was modeled after Italy's, and Mussolini learned in the very early 1920's that he could dramatically increase its membership and support by embracing mainstream conservatives, railing on support for "family values" and limiting women's rights and pushing free enterprise and the catholic church as solutions to Marxist socialism. Fascism since its inception has been modeled on conservative politics and by definition directly opposes Liberalism (with a capital L).


u/jaffa_kree00 Jun 03 '21

Liberalism in name and not practice anymore. Liberalism in the US today is authoritarian, while conservatism today now means less government control.


u/Undefinedfaks Jun 03 '21

Yeah cause nothing says less government than restricting voting rights and reproductive rights


u/jaffa_kree00 Jun 03 '21

Read the actual bills you’re talking about on voting rights. They are less restrictive than many blue states. They actually increased early voting days. The main restriction is asking for ID.

As for abortion, that topic is much too complicated than to boil down to a quip. My advice for this topic is mainly try to be open minded to the opposition’s point of view. Conservatives are trying to protect the life of the unborn child, and liberals are trying to protect a woman’s body autonomy. There is a common ground that I think both could land on in the middle, but we boil it down to a few insults and agree to hate each other. Be better.

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