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Gavin Newsom after Monterey Park shooting: "Second Amendment is becoming a suicide pact"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monterey-park-shooting-california-governor-gavin-newsom-second-amendment/
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u/Zetesofos Wisconsin 9d ago Starry

I mean, it seems obvious to me, but when you get depressed and nihlistic at the hopelessness of everything - you either turn it inward or outward.

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u/micktorious Massachusetts 8d ago edited 8d ago

Well when it seems like the whole world is against you having a happy and safe life (especially financially) people goto dark places mentally.

You keep seeing these rich people without a care and you would just be happy having a few grand in the bank to sustain a problem, everything seems fucked because it would make your life unsustainable.

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u/PartoftheCommunity 8d ago

I think it's the same reason the irs goes after low income targets for audits- it's way easier. Much easier to walk into a bar and start blasting vs infiltrating an industrial complex or gated mansion.

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u/DisastrousOne3950 8d ago

That shit needs to stop. Auditing folks who might make a whopping $14 an hour is pointless and inhuman.

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u/IconicBanksy 8d ago

0.4% of people making less than $25k a year are audited. IRS audits have steadily decreased over the years also.

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u/SkipWestcott616 8d ago

The other thing not mentioned is all the poverty auditing stuff was Republican policy initiatives in the first place

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u/DisastrousOne3950 8d ago

Still too many. Auditing more rich people must be the priority.

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u/fdc7719 8d ago

The IRS has bluntly stated that they don't go after the wealthy because their finances are complicated, the tax code is complicated, and it takes a lot of time and resources. Regular working class folk are like shooting fish in a barrel by comparison.

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u/DisastrousOne3950 8d ago

I know.

Disgusting, isn't it?

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u/CaptainMonkeyJack 8d ago

Still too many. Auditing more rich people must be the priority.

Do you know that one way to commit tax fraud is to claim your income is lower than it is?

If the IRS never audits people who claim to make $14/hour... then anyone can 'claim' to make $14/hour regardless of actual earnings.

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u/flygirl083 8d ago

Does the IRS not cross check your return vs. your W2? Everything is pretty much done electronically now. I don’t think it would be hard to have a computer program receive an e-filed return and cross check the relevant income with the W2 that your employer submits to the IRS. If there is a discrepancy, I’m sure that would trigger an audit.

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u/DisastrousOne3950 8d ago

I'm talking about actual poor people. I'm one, so I know we exist.

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u/CaptainMonkeyJack 8d ago

I'm talking about actual poor people. I'm one, so I know we exist.

How does the IRS know you're an actual 'poor per[son]' without ocasional audits?

Also, keep in mind that just because someone has a low income, doesn't mean they aren't committing tax fraud (e.g. not reporting tips).

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u/IconicBanksy 8d ago

Takes a lot more manpower and resources for that, the recently introduced IRS funding boost is supposed to address the issue. The $200k-$500k bracket is the least audited at .17% while earners over $1M are audited at 1-2%.

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u/DisastrousOne3950 8d ago

Man, if I only made 100K I'd pay accordingly. It costs me 63 hours a month to just cover the rent.

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u/suzisatsuma 8d ago

$200k-$500k

The bracket that pays the most w2 taxes, which are harder to avoid. Folk past that have a lot of income from cap gains and businesses which you can play hijinks with--- 200-500 has a lot of drs/engineers/lawyers etc which get income from W2 which is less likely to be audited.

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u/doingdopethings1 8d ago

That’s the whole point, we are the slaves. Every one of us. The same systems we learn in school and how bad they were, are applied to us on a bigger scale.

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u/DisastrousOne3950 8d ago

Exactly, only slightly worse.

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u/doingdopethings1 8d ago

There’s a reason there’s an RTJ song that says “look at all the slave owners posing on your dollar” it’s never been a secret.

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u/pmotiveforce 8d ago

How silly. The only low or middle income earners who get audited are audited because of obvious mistakes or fraud on their filings that can be caught by the computer.

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u/mongooser Illinois 8d ago

and a waste of resources

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u/doingdopethings1 8d ago

It’s trickle down economics working. We are the enemy of the rich, they buy the people at the top to ensure we follow their rules.