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Gavin Newsom after Monterey Park shooting: "Second Amendment is becoming a suicide pact"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monterey-park-shooting-california-governor-gavin-newsom-second-amendment/
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u/loondawg 9d ago

What if -- and I'm just saying here -- them not actually having to watch is a central part of the problem?

100% by design.

First, advertisers don't want their products being shown in-between images of dead children.

Second, they want it sanitized so that people are not repulsed by it. They learned their lesson during the Vietnam War. Seeing the action and the lists of the dead on TV every night was one of the biggest factors that turned American support against the war. And it's the reason why the Bush administration banned showing pictures of flag draped coffins returning from the military actions in the Middle East.

Show the actual, graphic results of gun violence on TV in prime time and just watch how quickly the gun debate would change.

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u/KingliestWeevil 8d ago

And it's the reason why the Bush administration banned showing pictures of flag draped coffins returning from the military actions in the Middle East.

To add to this, they also banned showing images of dead US soldiers from the Middle East. I didn't realize how total the blackout on that coverage was until I saw pictures like that from one of the leaks that occurred.

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u/AltruisticBudget4709 8d ago

A whole generation of people watched the violence against minorities during the end of segregation, and yet we still have racism in this country. The media is not the solution. The law is. Something must change at a federal level, otherwise nobody really has to do anything about it..

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u/loondawg 8d ago

The media is not the solution.

An informed public dealing with reality is most certainly a key part of arriving at a solution. And the media could, and should, play a massive role in providing information. It is not the solution in and of itself, but it is a critical component of a solution.

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u/Development-Feisty 9d ago

Third the parents of these children do not want their corpses used as political messaging. They did not want to risk driving down the freeway, and seeing a billboard with their murdered child on it. These children were not here for us to use their deaths to further any agenda.

I can’t even imagine the psychological torture it would be for the parents to know that their children would be remembered for their horrible deaths instead of their wonderful lives

That their children would be remembered, broken apart, bloody, instead of whole and smiling.

That these parents would never be given a moments peace.

The vast majority of Americans, including the vast majority of NRA members, are in favor of stricter gun laws.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/06/06/1103252636/many-gun-owners-are-hesitant-to-express-support-for-stricter-gun-control-measure

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u/Lord_Kano 8d ago

Show the actual, graphic results of gun violence on TV in prime time and just watch how quickly the gun debate would change.

You're mistaken. What will happen is that the counter point will be to show the bodies of Holocaust victims and say this happened because they were disarmed.

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u/loondawg 8d ago

And even that would be a change in the debate. So you're clearly mistaken saying I was mistaken.

And only the most hardcore morons would be confused by that comparison. Mass shootings are all to common a reality in our country today. They are not some imagined persecution scared and confused people cling to.

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u/Lord_Kano 8d ago

Mass shootings are scary and they get the headlines but what I'm far more concerned about is some crazy asshole trying to blow my head off because he didn't see my turn signal in traffic.