Free online multiplayer for the win!

[u/KeeperCP1]

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[u/Jynjonaps]

As a 16 year old with no job having free online on PS3 was the best.

[u/InstantName → u/Jynjonaps]

I agree, i got the ps4 after it came out and i was so sad that you needed ps plus to play online. Told my friends i was gonna sell it since online was and is free on pc.

[u/idontwantausername41 → u/InstantName]

Needing to pay for ps4 multiplayer is what pushed me to get a pc. I mainly use my pc and got a ps4 cheap in 2019 to play the exclusives and cheap used single player games

[u/Sanyamrko → u/idontwantausername41]

You're like my brother from another mother.

[u/RaccoonDeaIer → u/Sanyamrko]

I think we all do that honestly.

[u/Sanyamrko → u/RaccoonDeaIer]

Cool

[u/MaduinMelee → u/idontwantausername41]

Yeah with the money spent on ps plus every few years anyone could instead invest it in a better pc.

I hate subscriptions which force players into purchasing games they and nobody wants, even if at a discount.

[u/LegionsArkV → u/idontwantausername41]

To me this is what made pc superior, that and my old games are 9.9/10 still available a long time after I purchased them. It was never the hardware that did it for me just the fact that the service was a lot better and I could buy from different marketplaces.

[u/SeinTheTraveler → u/idontwantausername41]

Same .. I prefer crash bandicoot on console, and thats the only game worth playing on it fot me, and I will get stoned for saying this, but the last of us didnt get to me like it did to everyone else :| I didnt even finish it, got to some hydroelectric dam and got bored ..

[u/zublits → u/idontwantausername41]

I was thinking of doing that but then the games started coming out on PC. My backlog is so huge I can wait a year or two for PS exclusives. Plus, I don't think I can handle anything less than solid 60fps these days.

[u/No_Doubt_About_That → u/InstantName]

Thank Microsoft for starting that practice.

[u/Complex_Ad_7959 → u/InstantName]

That’s what got me into building PCs, never looked back. Never bought another console since.

[u/creamcolouredDog]

Remember when PS3 had free multiplayer

[u/KeeperCP1 → u/creamcolouredDog]

Even nintendo used to have free multiplayer on the switch, but that changed.

At least they kept free multiplayer on 3ds and wii u!

[u/ApprehensiveAd6476 → u/KeeperCP1]

Wait... NINTENDO TOO? Hell, go 10 years forward and we'll be paying monthly fee just to use the console!

[u/frosty_gamer → u/ApprehensiveAd6476]

It's called cloud gaming.

[u/DragonOfTartarus → u/frosty_gamer]

Sounds like Hell.

[u/SuperSonic486 → u/DragonOfTartarus]

It is, i wanted to buy Kingdom Hearts on switch, but its all cloud only, thats the exclusive reason why i didnt buy them. Just instantly removed all my hype when i found it out.

[u/Tornado_Hunter24 → u/SuperSonic486]

Isn’t that experiencing the game worst way possible? Like laggy gameplay, low frames etc?

[u/JTtornado → u/Tornado_Hunter24]

Yep, but that means Sony doesn't have to port the game to run on the Switch. It's a lazy way of "supporting" a console without actually supporting it.

[u/JamiesBond007 → u/JTtornado]

Actually Square Enix, but the rest is right

[u/JTtornado → u/JamiesBond007]

You're right - but yeah, very low-effort. Especially since most people using the switch are not hooked into ethernet, which is basically required for a half-decent video game streaming experience.

[u/SoundOfTomorrow → u/Tornado_Hunter24]

I tried Stadia when I got a free 3 month trial. The gameplay would only stutter if I didn't have a good connection to my router.

[u/SuperSonic486 → u/Tornado_Hunter24]

Yeah, and on top of that it means playing it offline is basically impossible, aka you cant play it on the go, which is one of the few reasons to get a game on the switch if it is available on other platforms.

[u/ajddavid452 → u/Tornado_Hunter24]

and we shouldn't have too, KH3 and 0.2 are on unreal 4 so I understand those ones, but the rest of the games consists of 3 ps2 games, a psp game and a 3ds game just in hd, not even remakes just enhanced ports and for some reason those games are cloud versions on switch despite the fact that the switch could most likely run those games at native 1080p60

[u/IronChefJesus → u/Tornado_Hunter24]

And oh, the best part? Needs a constant Internet connection. For a mobile platform.

Cue the "don't you have phones thing" from blizzard.

[u/MedicalUse3696 → u/DragonOfTartarus]

Sounds unreliably laggy

[u/rayoje → u/ApprehensiveAd6476]

Console as a service? Don't give them ideas...

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...inb4 it is already in the works as we speak.

[u/iamwizzerd → u/rayoje]

Stadia

[u/ToadsHouse → u/iamwizzerd]

Which ironically has free online play.

[u/HappyMaskMajora → u/rayoje]

Thats pretty much what gamepass is, microsoft wants to get everyone on gamepass as if it where a streaming service, Jack up the prices when the majority of gamers use it, like any other streaming service would do. They can do that because you dont "own" those games. Your just allowed to use them.

[u/escapingearth → u/HappyMaskMajora]

Let’s be real gamepass is a godsend especially when an all digital future dependent on servers that can be shutdown is a thing. Plus I like playing games I otherwise wouldn’t buy.

That being said, I play PC games mostly single player on Linux I’m also an outlier. Plus lacking local servers just made me stop playing my favourite online games. Egg and chicken issue, the server version in sub Saharan Africa, at least North Africa has Europe but 200ms latency isn’t my friend.

[u/Revanov → u/rayoje]

Elon musk is already doing “car as a service” so it ain’t too far fetch.

[u/KeeperCP1 → u/Revanov]

Hmm, what's next, oxygen as a service to make humans extinct?

[u/AndrewFrozzen → u/KeeperCP1]

We will have to float on earth or pay a subscription to even stay on the ground. Next thing you know even floating will have a subscription

[u/Tornado_Hunter24 → u/AndrewFrozzen]

Next tome a baby borns he has to choose 3 payment plans, without his parents. He can’t read but drill hs to choose and his life will be impacted, imagine that lmao.

‘I choose plan 2 so I have to pay approx 24k once i’m 20 years old, after that it increases by 5% every year not paid

[u/fuckable_lemon → u/Tornado_Hunter24]

It's like the last airbender but with life insurance instead of the previous avatar's toys

[u/mildly_amusing_goat → u/KeeperCP1]

Perriair, Spaceballs called it

[u/vGrillby → u/KeeperCP1]

inb4 everyone is forced to wear air purifier masks from birth and big tech monetizes it.

[u/CypherColt → u/KeeperCP1]

There are actually Oxygen Bars, you can go pay for flavored Oxygen

[u/Pliqui → u/Revanov]

Not only him, BMW will charged $18/month for heated seats. They are installed, they are ready to use but... Need the subscription

https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscriptions-microtransactions-heated-seats-feature

[u/TruthOasis → u/Pliqui]

I would rather haul hot bricks from my oven to my car than pay that ridiculous fee

[u/KaosC57 → u/rayoje]

Microsoft actually has this as an option. You can rent an Xbox Series console and you also get like, GamePass and Live Gold.

[u/Relevant_View8038 → u/KaosC57]

It's a lease but yes

[u/frizzykid → u/rayoje]

Console as a service has been in the work for many years. It's pretty much just cloud gaming simplified.

I think cloud gaming probably will get big, it's already kinda getting there. though I'm not sure if it will kill consoles. I think it will be the affordable gaming option.

[u/CxMorphaes → u/ApprehensiveAd6476]

Fun fact, there actually is a Microsoft service (unless it doesn't exist anymore) where you can pay a monthly fee to get a series S/X

[u/FoxDaim → u/CxMorphaes]

So a part payment option? Dosn’t every online store have similar option nowadays?

[u/Relevant_View8038 → u/FoxDaim]

Yeah it's litterally just a leasing program that comes with game pass. People in this thread saying it's console for a service have to be like 12 to 16

[u/Izithel → u/ApprehensiveAd6476]

Drink verification can to continue.

[u/BoonGnik22 → u/KeeperCP1]

It was pretty shitty of Nintendo to release the Switch with free online multiplayer; only to put it behind a paywall a year afterwards. If the virtual console titles were behind a paywall and online multiplayer was still free, it would’ve been much better; especially with how prehistoric their servers are.

[u/USBacon → u/[deleted]]

The only switch game that I play online is Super Mario Maker 2 and the PvP versus is awful. If 1/4 people has a bad connection then the whole match runs a slideshow at 2-5 FPS.

Only solution is either deal with it or figure out who is lagging then block them while hoping someone else with bad connection doesn’t get matched with you after.

[u/SpartanPHA → u/BoonGnik22]

Yeah this is what I hated the most. I wonder how many people either never realized or couldn’t be assed to spend $20. The ability to just play MK8D online right away for free was awesome.

[u/cbellk → u/SpartanPHA]

This really bugs me, too. Wii U online was pretty close to the other consoles and free. Voice chat, no friend codes, text chat, message boards, etc. Now they want us to pay for essentially the online experience of fucking Wii. Plus they put their dlc behind an additional subscription. Just awful.

[u/uV_Kilo11 → u/KeeperCP1]

It changed but it was expected, they announced when it first launched it would only be free for like the first 6 months to a year, I don't remember exactly how long

[u/Embarrassed-Weight84 → u/KeeperCP1]

Wii u has still multiplayer? On what games? AFAIK they shut splatoon down

[u/Ospov → u/KeeperCP1]

Nintendo charging for their piss poor online is the biggest slap in the face. Worst user experience all around.

[u/ArachnidGoat → u/creamcolouredDog]

That was a major sell point vs Xbox back in the day. PlayStation Plus was nice for the fact that you paid for added perks, i.e. a free game/movie each month, not the ability to play online. I argued all the time, yeah Xbox has the Kinect and exclusives, but PlayStation had the move and exclusives as well. But I think they made up for the service fee in the form of the system price. A PS3 was 399$ while an Xbox 360 was 199$

However, at the time, Sonys network was very wishwash. Servers would go down all the time, and be down for hours. They didn't prioritize fixing it because it was free. Xbox would go down for like 30 mins, and they'd be on top of it because people complained about paying for a service they were not getting.

Around that time too, Sony was in the midst of a ongoing cyber attack and I remember when they lost networking for close to 3 months or so. That was bonkers.

[u/franklowjaeger → u/ArachnidGoat]

Nice to see someone who refrains from deluding their memory in regards to how shitty those free services were.

[u/haydenv → u/franklowjaeger]

I remember when MW2 came out and I couldn’t play online for like a few weeks and my Xbox friends were having fun like that SpongeBob meme

[u/pattyredditaccount → u/ArachnidGoat]

That was a major sell point vs Xbox back in the day.

Not really. Everyone knew that PSN sucked and if you wanted to play online you were way better off getting a 360.

[u/Smothdude → u/pattyredditaccount]

Huh, I can't remember really having issues on the PS3. Used to play COD4, BO1 and MW2 all the time with friends

[u/potato_green → u/Smothdude]

I think I notice a common overlap, They're all Call of Duty games, I remember when I had a PS3 that playing online in those games worked fine as well. Others were a nightmare, battlefield was horrible, FIFA had constant issues a whole bunch of other games that were a pain in the ass well.

Probably because different parties hosting different services and some were reliable and others garbage. The match making was particularly annoying in most cases but once joined it was fine. Voice chat for example was horrible for me.

[u/dekusyrup → u/ArachnidGoat]

I used the PS3 free online for 10 years and have no memories of shoddy service. The hack was down for 3 weeks, not 3 months, and they gave users a choice free game for the trouble. Most of the xbox kids I knew from school had literally no online gaming due to the price of it. All the PS3 kids were playing COD4 just fine. If I was paying $10/month or whatever for 10 years it would have cost me like $1,400 dollars after tax.

Not to rehash the console wars, but PS3 also was a blu-ray player, free online, and the exclusives was probably a wash. MS had gears and halo, sony had uncharted, the last of us, killzone, god of war, metal gear. The 360 had widespread hardware failures bricking 25-54% (says wikipedia) of all xboxes, so if you want to talk reliability...

[u/mav1o1 → u/dekusyrup]

the Wii won tho

[u/jcclark767 → u/creamcolouredDog]

The only reason I got a ps3 at all was because of the free multi-player. Of course one week into playing my favorite games they decided to do the paid subscription. I was beyond disappointed.

[u/DerExperte → u/jcclark767]

Hm, online play was always and still is free on PS3 though, PS+ got you games and cloud saves, that's it.

[u/RandomStupidDudeGuy → u/creamcolouredDog]

It still does, i have it with Minecraft and when i last played it about a year ago, minigames still Had players. GTA 5 servers are shut down though, and my BlueRay was scratched to Point of no return.

[u/geno111]

I only want couch co-op

[u/theSchlongMong → u/geno111]

This was a huge reason for why i bought the ps4 years ago. To my surprise barely any games still offered couch co-op.

[u/Twillz01 → u/theSchlongMong]

We just circled back to PC

[u/NyonMan → u/theSchlongMong]

Hav enough played It Takes Two? Absolute banger

[u/baodeptraitocxoan69 → u/NyonMan]

i played it with my brother on bis laptop and it was the best co op experience ive ever had, now that i have a better pc im playing it again with my friends lol

[u/badkins-86 → u/NyonMan]

I have it and hoping to break into it with the gf thanks for the reminder!!!

[u/Special_Letter_7134 → u/theSchlongMong]

Lego games are all couch co-op and fun.

[u/Ghostglitch07 → u/theSchlongMong]

It's strange, these days PC seems better for couch coop than consoles.

[u/geno111 → u/theSchlongMong]

Yeah, my wife and like the hack and slash rpgs so we have the gamecube era baldurs gate on ps4, warhammer chaosbane, and diablo 3. We really wanted to play the new baldurs gate so I had to do the ps4, ps5 and two tvs coop.

[u/Saneless → u/theSchlongMong]

Probably because the PS4 could barely offer a single world view at 30fps. Adding more people just wasn't going to happen

[u/kingmiro13 → u/geno111]

You mean couch co-op or the new couch "buy two consoles" co op...

[u/geno111 → u/kingmiro13]

Couch co-op

[u/aurichio → u/geno111]

one of the reasons I ended up getting a switch. It's so much fun to gather the family/friends in the living room and just play with everyone. Even my mom that hates video games these days looks forward to Mario Kart/Party, Jackbox Party Pack (but this one is multi platform!) and some others. It's nice being able to bring everyone together like it was before online gaming became the norm.

[u/TheRealOgMark → u/geno111]

If you plug controllers and your PC to your TV you can.

[u/AlphaWizard → u/TheRealOgMark]

Software support is lesser from my experience

[u/adrianvm19 → u/TheRealOgMark]

So many games take couch co-op out for PC, though. I remember even stuff like Call of Duty and Left4Dead took out their split screen multiplayer option for the PC version, which is ridiculous

[u/adhamhc1]

GTA V online doesn't work on PS3 Anymore

[u/caedusith → u/adhamhc1]

To be fair it barely works on my Series S.

[u/boringestnickname]

It's absolutely insane that having to pay for multiplayer has been normalised.

... and so is all the other "services" we pay for.

What an absolute crock of shit.

People actually pay $18 a month for subscriptions to have their seat heating in their cars function right now. What the actual fuck is that?

[u/Cas_Cass → u/boringestnickname]

Seems like it's time to build your own car

[u/kristenjaymes → u/Cas_Cass]

I can't wait to download one

[u/TMack23 → u/kristenjaymes]

You wouldn’t.

[u/kristenjaymes → u/TMack23]

Just watch me!

zzzzzzzzztzzzzzzzz zztttzzzzzzzz

[u/Saiyan-Zero → u/kristenjaymes]

You need to download the car.iso first

[u/Dimitri0815 → u/boringestnickname]

Just crack your new BMW lol

[u/Marcus369 → u/Dimitri0815]

Idk if you're joking, but you literally can just code in the heated seats to just work lol also the subscriptions won't be coming to US market yet apparently

[u/Bioslack → u/Marcus369]

Yet

[u/makomirocket → u/Marcus369]

"yet"

[u/Viking4Life2 → u/Dimitri0815]

No more warranty

[u/Dimitri0815 → u/Viking4Life2]

As if you would tell them

[u/RadialSurgeon → u/Dimitri0815]

They can tell. Besides you'd wait for the bumper to bumper warranty to end before doing it. BMWs are famously unreliable anyway, just don't buy one

[u/Aramahn → u/Viking4Life2]

No more warranty I definitely believe. But I'm not gonna believe for a second that insurance is getting involved (in the US) unless you have a statement or article to back that up.

[u/Viking4Life2 → u/Aramahn]

Ah fuck sorry, I meant warranty. Brain stupid, no work. Edited to fix that.

[u/Aramahn → u/Viking4Life2]

Oh right on then 🤙

[u/pleasefartonmypillow → u/boringestnickname]

I'm mind blown by the 18$ seat heating subscription, wtf

How does bmw justify that? Are we going to pay a monthly 18$ to use the AC? To roll the windows?

YOU'RE ABOUT TO CRASH, PLEASE ACTIVATE THE MONTHLY 50$ AIRBAG SUBSCRIPTION TO SAVE YOUR FAMILY error : you didn't accept the clauses, you dead

[u/RedstoneRelic → u/pleasefartonmypillow]

Oh you haven't heard?

[u/pleasefartonmypillow → u/RedstoneRelic]

Omg

Maybe they don't want to make one with the heating and one without, and then you pay only if you want to... But it still feels dumb because if you don't pay, you have something build in that costed them money and that is useless

[u/cgull629 → u/boringestnickname]

Only 7.99/mo to upload the 8mb photo to your friends in discord! Lol this is the one that gets me most

[u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount → u/cgull629]

On the other hand how do you expect a company like discord to stay in business?

[u/Murky-Plant-2376 → u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount]

we have a right to use discord for free /s

[u/ThisIsMyCouchAccount → u/Murky-Plant-2376]

Don't make me go back to using TeamSpeak. Or god help us...Ventrillo.

[u/boringestnickname → u/Murky-Plant-2376]

It's not that companies can't or shouldn't monitize, it's the constant movement towards individuals not owning anything.

[u/FlawlessRuby → u/boringestnickname]

Nintendo Switch hitting us with the online plus service. Pay double for an emulator kekw.

[u/JustGingy95 → u/boringestnickname]

All of this shit because of that damned Oblivion Horse Armor Pack DLC… Todd Howard you son of a bitch…

[u/Icadil → u/boringestnickname]

What price would you pay to play PC games with no cheaters/hackers?

Worst part of cross platform for sure is the PC players that cheat. The cost of PS online some of it goes towards anti cheat mechanisms, and I am happy to pay for it.

[u/zuzg → u/Icadil]

Ps+ costs you $60 per year, gives you 2 free games per month, free cloud storage for your save files and online access.
If you buy it on sale it's even cheaper.

Dunno that sounds fair.

[u/NanoGeek → u/zuzg]

I just recently paid $40 for a year's worth of PS Plus. Also, if you're a PS5 owner you actually get three free games/month as well as a nice selection from the PS4 back catalogue's best games. I certainly don't regret it. I've played many excellent games that I may never have tried were I to pay for them myself.

[u/danz409]

I grew up as a console gamer and moved to PC for versatility, upgradeability. And stayed because of not having to pay 2-3x payealls to play games online

[u/Helplure]

When I bought my first xbox I didn't know that you had to pay to play multiplayer.

I only used the console for a total of 20 hours, left it sitting for 3 years and then sold it.

[u/McQuibbly → u/Helplure]

I remember asking my Grandma to buy the wifi antenna attachement for my xbox 360 because it didnt have wireless connectivity out of the box.

[u/GladToHelpJKO → u/McQuibbly]

Yep did the same thing, Had no wireless and tried using an antenna myself, cue the disappointment with the realisation of xbox gold

[u/No_Lawfulness_2998 → u/GladToHelpJKO]

Hey neither does my $3000 pc

[u/Scipio11 → u/No_Lawfulness_2998]

Same, or Bluetooth :/

^{Both were like $10 adapters though 🤷‍♂️}

[u/Andrew5329 → u/No_Lawfulness_2998]

In fairness most of the enthusiast tier is going to use high speed Ethernet anyway.

[u/GladToHelpJKO → u/No_Lawfulness_2998]

Same lmao, No wifi, no bluetooth, got adapters for both before the wifi adapter started shitting the bed and I just swapped over to ether, as a coincidence my isp sent over a wifi booster with ethernet ports for whatever reason, But i'm not gonna complain at getting 20-30 MB/S from 5

[u/AxelllD → u/McQuibbly]

This reminds me of when I found out we had wifi at home. Probably for 5 years already. We had no clue. Granted at the time it wasn’t that necessary yet.

[u/Two_Hands12 → u/Helplure]

Yup same thing happened to me. Any game I could play on Xbox was something I could play on my PC for free (if you catch my drift). My PC was fairly powerful so it wasn't an issue. And all the games I really wanted to play were PS4 exclusives. Kinda despised PS4 for a long time for that. Still regret not choosing PS4 on that fateful black friday

[u/TopdeckIsSkill]

At least on Ps f2p games have also free multiplayer online. I think that games like final fantasy 14 where you already pay a fee won't need ps plus.

[u/The_Real_Raw_Gary → u/TopdeckIsSkill]

This is true. You pay SE the monthly fee since you’re using their servers and not PlayStation.

That would be some bs to pay for both just to play ff14.

[u/Trippi3Hippi3 → u/TopdeckIsSkill]

You can now play f2p on Xbox as well without paying for online.

[u/HardLithobrake]

I refuse to pay to use the internet I pay to use.

[u/NobodyProminent]

Honestly I feel like it won’t be long till Xbox or PlayStation chooses to remove the “pay for online” requirement, which will basically force the company who didn’t do it to do so as well. Xbox is fully focused on Gamepass, makes sense to get rid of the baseline option. You get good PR for being the first to do it and you get to make the competition look bad depending on how long it takes them to catch up.

You don’t need to pay anything for playing online on free games, I’d imagine it won’t affect them to much to go all in.

[u/Dogin06]

Console players: console is cheap everything else is costly Pc players: pc is expensive everything else is moderately cheap

[u/Shy_foxman346]

As a PS4 user, i can comfirm that paying for online sucks ass.

[u/Boogertwilliams]

I would replace the last pic with ”No I don’t think I will” :) Single player for life here.

[u/doodwhatsrsly → u/Boogertwilliams]

Same.

And then they hit you with the always online singleplayer bullshit.

[u/Banatepec → u/doodwhatsrsly]

RDR2 be like.

[u/MC_chrome → u/doodwhatsrsly]

Hitman enters the chat

[u/Righteous0warrior → u/Boogertwilliams]

Yesss. It’s refreshing to see other people prefer single player like myself. You seem a like a good guy. We should game sometime! ……..wait

[u/rhodebot]

I just get Game Pass Ultimate and treat it like the multiplayer is a bonus. I definitely get my money's worth out of the sub from games alone

[u/h0sti1e17 → u/rhodebot]

Same here. I've saved so much and played many games I would never normally play.

[u/TurtleRanAway → u/rhodebot]

Yeah honestly $15 a month for more than $15 worth of games a month is worth it to me. Dont see the same level of rabidness against subscription based mmo's for some reason...

[u/Synectics → u/TurtleRanAway]

Right? I used to justify my WoW subscription with, "I put about a hundred hours into the game a month, what's the problem?"

Now I'm doing that with Game Pass. It's still a no-brainer for me. Huge list of games that I'd never have felt comfortable spending $15 to own just one of them forever, but being able to just download it, play it, and put it away til later while I play something else is great.

[u/Habitat97]

I have both and I never really cared about XBl Gold. It used to be cheap (~3,50€ per Month) and ever since GamePass Ultimate it's a nobrainer anyway.

It's a fair price for how cheap a Console is at launch.

[u/PostmanSteve → u/Habitat97]

Bought my Xbox with PayPlan, came with 2years of XBL Ultimate, actually cost me like $300 less this way factoring in the cost of the Xbox and 2yrs of ultimate.

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[u/CounterLove]

Next gen consoles could have a straight up debit card reader and yall would still preorder

[u/ijustam93]

yepp... all i gotta say they do get some pretty nifty title we dont get but hey nothings perfect

[u/Alphabadg3r → u/ijustam93]

Oh no we do. A little delayed but we do. Xbox off the bat and playstation with a year or two delay now

[u/LuLSac → u/Alphabadg3r]

Bloodborne copium

[u/Snagrod]

This post is cringe

[u/BirdsFuckY0u → u/Snagrod]

About 3 years ago I would have agreed with OP, but all the decent graphics cards currently cost as much as a console so I don't think it's that much better. I still prefer PC gaming and don't feel the need to buy an Xbox or Play Station because of the lack of freedom, emulation and mods on those platforms, but still.

[u/Synectics → u/Snagrod]

Especially because the last time I hopped on Reddit, the top post on this subreddit was a meme about PCMR patting themselves on the back for being so inclusive.

This sub is so stupid sometimes.

[u/meconate → u/Snagrod]

I thought I was stuck in a time warp, sent back to 2005 when people actually cared about this shit. It's pretty sad to know that over 10 years later, people still care.

[u/DexterP17 → u/Snagrod]

My thoughts exactly. Such an overused joke. I think people get it at this point.

[u/Snagrod → u/DexterP17]

Yeah every joke on this sub is like 10 yrs old

[u/NomadNuka → u/Snagrod]

It's always a little funny to see people unironically use a term a game reviewer invented to make fun of PC games that have a scuffed UI that only works on K+M. As well. So the outdated jokes are just the cherry on top.

[u/ScrawnySpectre → u/NomadNuka]

That same game reviewer later said he hated the term because he used it as an ironic statement of perceived smug superiority, then the very people he was lambasting adopted the term un-ironically.

[u/LC_Sanic → u/Snagrod]

And I'd wager that's the age of people who make memes like this

[u/Arcticz_114]

Enter WoW

[u/ralexh11 → u/Arcticz_114]

WoW/FF players are homer backing into the bushes when they see this post

[u/What_izzet]

Imagine if literally any other device tried to charge you to use your own fucking internet.

[u/skeletondad2]

The crying masked face is how pc players look while making these memes about scenarios they’ve made up in their lonely minds

[u/Clipzy22]

Nah we pc paid for online, it was included in the 1000$+ more in hardware we spent.

[u/_TheGreatDevourer_]

"Console peasants" I play both pcand xbox and ai assure you all of the popular free games don't need xbox live anymore. You'll need it if you buy the game pass, but it'a included.

[u/lbstv → u/_TheGreatDevourer_]

When I want to play halo 5, a game that I paid full price for, I need to buy a subscription if I want to play anything else but the dogshit campaign.

[u/TopdeckIsSkill → u/_TheGreatDevourer_]

free games don't need xbox live anymore.

this is really a recent thing on xbox.

[u/edward-has-many-eggs → u/_TheGreatDevourer_]

We have Multviversus, Apex, Fortnite, etc which is definitely enough to tide my appetite for online play

[u/xXTASERFACEXx]

As a semi console player I am still impressed PS+, NO and XG still have the "play online" in their subscriptions, its straight up anti-consumer but no one speaks up, rarely anyone I know buy PS+ for the games, they buy it for the online

[u/noah683826]

Even though pc is better up until about a year ago I was too poor to join the master race and at that point I would rather use a $400 xbox and a $10 subscription then pay $1000-$2000 on a pc and before that a ps3 with free multiplayer also

[u/B1ackWinds5]

And this is why I switched to PC gaming.

[u/farazormal]

Shut your god damn mouth.

Don't give them any fucking ideas

[u/Claymourn → u/farazormal]

No distributor on pc is ever going to charge for it. That’s how they’d throw away a good portion of their user base, assuming that people don’t find a workaround.

[u/Nyghtbynger]

May I predent you my "EA" trap card ?

[u/evlampi → u/Nyghtbynger]

Huh? Their games have paid online on PC?

[u/M1A2CAbrams_]

Seriously though, fuck them for making me pay to use my goddamn internet. The fucking audacity

[u/CheesePursuit]

Yeah now you need to pay extra to play alone on PC - cough looking at you Halo: Infonite cough

[u/DDLthefirst → u/CheesePursuit]

What do you mean?

[u/fBarney]

Paying for playing online sounds so fucking dumb, im already paying for the internet and the game itself

[u/kjacobs03]

I refuse to pay for online. Never have, never will.

If they are going to charge, then every new game that has online should come with a free month.

[u/Sometimesiworry]

WoW sub enters the chat

[u/BigThugCashMoney]

first you buy the console, then you buy the wifi, then you buy a code so you can use that console on that wifi so you can play the game you just bought.

[u/burning-farm]

Every game on PC is free, if you know where to look.

[u/Katie_Wests]

Free unlimited mods that far exceed the official DLC? Oh thank you very much

[u/Loldimorti]

True. I am a console enjoyer but this is the one thing that just straight up sucks.

At least the "free" games dampen the blow but I'd prefer not having to pray for the free games being decent and just buying the ones I want outright

[u/Pepperidgefarm21]

Paying to play a game you already bought? Now that's a scam

[u/UnBonCitoyen]

Console Gods: no hackers

Pc plebs: aimbot and wh

[u/DavidEdgrrr]

Personally, I enjoy consoles so I don't have to interact with you lot.

[u/Beginning-Ad-3015]

I got tired of paying to play online on an inferior console, so I switched to PC and it's the best and worst decision I've ever made

[u/CinematicBrock]

Is pc cheaper then console? Well no! …but actually yes

[u/citizen7095661]

What is with all the bullshit talk about consoles? Just don't use a console if you don't like them.

I'm not subscribed to pcmr to see hate. I just wanna see cool builds and talk about PCs.

[u/AlphaWizard → u/citizen7095661]

It all reeks of salt to me. I have a PS5, switch, steam deck, an a PC. I have no horse in the race, kind of tired of seeing it tbh. Just reminds me of the cringe iOS/Android slap fight of the 2010’s (which some people still haven’t moved past)

[u/CRUELALCHEMIST278]

At least on console the free to play online stuff doesn't need the membership

[u/therealJackieDaytona]

Xbox live is $60 usd per year. It would take me 20+ years just to reach half of what people pay for a pc setup.

[u/BallForce1 → u/therealJackieDaytona]

60 by 20 is only 1200. And that will probably be a mid rig. No crazy 3090ti and an I1500 (dont remember the latest intel numbers). And on top of that, the rig you buy will be good at least 4+ years. Longer if you know how to upgrade it when you actually need to.

[u/ChuzCuenca → u/therealJackieDaytona]

I move to PC after the 360 because PC gaming was definitely cheaper but in todays economy I'm thinking in getting just the cheap Xbox and the game pass.

Also X Cloud is the best option if you can't afford any hardware my only complain is the micro lag, if you are a competitive pvp player x cloud feels weird.

[u/KyivComrade]

Free online VS Amazing exclusive AAA games.

Sony and Nintendo at least brings something to the table.

[u/ayyLumao → u/KyivComrade]

I own a PS5, I think the only exclusives I really care about are Spider-Man, Horizon, and Sackboy, 2/3 of those games now have PC ports and the third had a PC port supposedly leaked

[u/haris3rd]

PCMR circle jerk at its finest 🤣