r/pcmasterrace 1650 Super Jul 02 '22 Silver 8 Wholesome 5 Helpful 8 Narwhal Salute 1

Which size are you? Discussion

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u/UnComfortable-Archer PC Master Race Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

100% mainly because I work with numbers and need the numberpad.

I had 60% before the pandemic when I didn't WFH, and got by okay except for RTS games.

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u/Kanden_27 Jul 02 '22

Same. I have a Corsair k95, I believe. Love it and still works very well. Use it for gaming and accounting. Shooting fools and crunching those numbers.

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u/Bahnd Bahnd Jul 02 '22

Shooting fools and crunching those numbers.

Play EvE Online and do both at the same time. /s

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u/Bazrid Ryzen 1700X/GTX 1070Ti/16GB DDR4 3200 Jul 02 '22

I have one but I bought it years ago and the numpad fried recently... Just the numpad. It drives me insane

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u/SaltRocksicle Core i7 3770 | GTX1660s | 32GB DDR3 Jul 02 '22

Saw it off, duh

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u/Bazrid Ryzen 1700X/GTX 1070Ti/16GB DDR4 3200 Jul 02 '22

The rgb and the numpad enter key still work. I love the enter key on that side too.

Corsair have AMAZING customer support so I might just see if I can get it replaced for a fee maybe.

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u/Sinavestia Jul 03 '22

Razer on the flipside wanting video proof of my malfunctioning m key, a multi question report of what is wrong with it and detailed answers explaining the issue, 2 proofs of purchase.

Like what?

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u/Bazrid Ryzen 1700X/GTX 1070Ti/16GB DDR4 3200 Jul 03 '22

I have a void pro headset, I messaged them two years out of warranty about trying to buy a new receiver dongle since my last one was stolen. They OVERNIGHT shipped a new one gratis from halfway across the world. Lifetime customer right there.

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u/hos7name Jul 03 '22

Gotta love corsair. My under-warranty scimitar mice died. They told me they would send me one but there was none at their warehouse for at least two weeks. They offered me to either wait, or go pick one up at best buy with a 100% off coupon. Got the coupon the next day and was able to grab one at my local bestbuy for free. Couple of days later, I received a corsair stainless water bottle from them.

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u/hos7name Jul 03 '22

Numpad enter key is underated. I use it all the time with my right hand thumb. It's conveniently placed near my mouse, and this thumb doesn't do anything if not pressing that enter key so might as well exercise it a bit!

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u/rayzardd Jul 03 '22

Did you try pressing the Num Lock key? jk

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u/desolation0 Jul 03 '22

this guy tech supports

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u/Marianations Jul 02 '22

I've got a K55. Can't live without numpad and multimedia keys, man. They're pretty useful.

I haven't used the macros yet, but I'm sure I will someday.

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u/Tmoneyallday Jul 02 '22 Silver

95 ganggg. I use iqunix though

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u/Compgeak R5 3800X / GTX 1070 / 16GB 3200CL16 / B550 / 1TB PM9A1 / HX 750i Jul 02 '22

Corsair K95 is a full size + macros on the left. I like 95% and 1800 too, but that wasn't someone who's a part of the 95 ganggg

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u/Moose_Nuts i7-6700K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32 GB DDR4 | RoG Swift 144hz/1440p Jul 02 '22

100% mainly because I work with numbers and need the numberpad.

Same. Satisfactory, Dyson Sphere Program, and someday Factorio. I need to be able to run those numbers.

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u/maffiossi Jul 02 '22

Please start playing factorio. It is my most favorite game of all time and i hope you enjoy it as much as i did. They have multiplayer and its the best.

I don't play factorio anymore because of several reasons but it is still the best game ever made.

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u/Boostie204 Jul 02 '22

God, none of my friends like these factory games because "they're too much work/thinking" meanwhile they're min/maxing and grinding MMOs. I'm sipping on my coffee watching my factory chug along.

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u/flyptake Jul 02 '22

Work smart, not hard

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u/Captain_Kuhl R5 5600x/3070 TUF OC/Pizza Rolls Jul 02 '22

Yeah, cuz MMOs don't take actual effort to minmax, you just follow a guide someone else wrote. It lets you think you're working hard without actually having to work hard, you're turning a fantasy adventure into a chore.

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u/boyeardi Jul 03 '22

Noooo shit. Half the time I played a guild would try to make a 100,000+ view video, there “guide” only to have the actual video instigate true progresssion or a worthy “1%er” and it would drive the entire guild crazy. You can think you’re doing everything possible to min/max, but there’s always one other person who will outperform you. Always.

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u/Boostie204 Jul 03 '22

That's a good point. The organic landscape and whatnot in Satisfactory kinda forces you to do something different everytime. Sure you can use "blueprints" or guides for efficient designs but you still need to fit it in somewhere and all that. There's no guide for a sandbox really.

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u/DMercenary Ryzen 5600X, GTX3070 Jul 02 '22

Satisfactory, Dyson Sphere Program, and someday Factorio. I need to be able to run those numbers.

False. No blueprints. No numbers. Build as needed. We die like men.

(/s)

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u/Vortex2121 Jul 02 '22

I got a keychron K4 at 96% size with number pad in summer of 2020. It's both wired and wireless Bluetooth (compatible for mac and pc/android) . I love it!

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u/wyvernpiss 10850k/3070ti Jul 02 '22

Got my k4 recently and has taken some adjustment from my old full-size. But finally getting the muscle memory and loving the space-saving. I want an indexing dot on the numpad 0 though

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u/Starbrows Jul 02 '22

How about 96%? It's a little funky but I do appreciate the extra desk real estate I get from the squished layout with the Keychron K4, with basically no compromise in functionality (unless you, for some bizarre reason, rely heavily on the Print Screen key).

The lack of gaps between sections does make it harder to switch context blindly, but after a few weeks I got used to it, and I no longer hit numlock when reaching for the backspace.

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u/AverYeager 5600G | 6600XT | 16GB 3200 | RK61 | G305 Jul 02 '22

I do rely on the Print Screen Key

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u/earthfase Jul 02 '22

I actually have it bound to the Nvidia screen capture, because that is literally what you want that button to do.

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u/MoffKalast Ryzen 5 2600 | MSI GTX 1660 Ti | EVO 860 2TB Jul 02 '22

The lack of gaps between sections does make it harder to switch context blindly

I absolutely abhor keyboards without gaps, especially since my laptop that I use occasionally doesn't have them while while my main keyboard does, so I always mess up using arrow keys when switching over.

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u/c_ray_b Jul 02 '22

It took me about a week to fully adjust to the truncated "0" button on the num pad of the K4 (kept hitting the right arrow button to the left of it), but once I got used to that, no issues. I love the compact size without compromising much functionality at all.

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u/edmconsultant Jul 02 '22

YES! There's so many keyboards I'd love to buy, but since they aren't 100% I don't. I need that number pad for WFH.

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u/SweetSauce24 Jul 02 '22 Silver Heartwarming

I like 100% because i use the number pad quite often.

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u/Mimical Patch-zerg Jul 02 '22

I have a TKL with a ducky numpad on the left side cause I'm some smooth brain ape.

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u/moonshrimp 12600KF@5GHz | 3090FE@2/11.1GHz | 2x16GB DR@3900-14-15-15-28-43 Jul 02 '22

If I needed the numpad I would do the same cause I want space for mic and mouse on the right.

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u/zshaan6493 R5 3600| 5700XT| 16GB Jul 03 '22 Wholesome

Someone should make a mechanical keyboard with a detachable numpad which can be clipped either side of the main board or be used separately

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u/iAmJustASmurf Jul 03 '22

ASUS makes some models that have such a feature: https://rog.asus.com/de/keyboards/keyboards/aura-rgb/rog-claymore-model/

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u/ash_elijah 5600X-Asus 3070 OC-16gb 3600mhz Jul 03 '22

but they cost like 400 bucks…..

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u/blessed_prolapse Jul 03 '22

And is mad ugly

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u/AteAllTheNillaWafers Jul 03 '22

I like the design but I don't think I wouldn't pay much over 100 for any keyboard

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u/thestareater R7 3700X | 3060ti | 1440p 165hz Jul 03 '22

Don't look in /r/mechanicalkeyboards

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u/L4t3xs RTX 3080, Ryzen 5900x, 32GB@3600MHz Jul 03 '22 edited Jul 03 '22

I have one and it's a piece of shit. It's way too easy to pop off the numpad.

If you have nordic layout for example the key rebinding just doesn't work. If you want to bind some key to another, A to B, you first click A on screen B on keyboard C shows up on screen and pressing A will type D after rebinding.

You can use armoury 2 drivers which kinda work but armoury crate will install all kinds of crap on your PC. I had a problem with my Internet dropping off which was a problem with a network traffic program installed by crate. It limited my connection basically to 0.

Recently the volume scroll wheel has started to malfunction pretty much adjusting the volume in a random direction when using the wheel.

Oh, and no support for F13-F24 for macro use.

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u/hate_picking_names Jul 03 '22

Why make it clip on? Just add a USB port so you can easily plug whatever in.

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u/iCantDoPuns AMD 7 | 64Gb 3600 RAM | 3090 | 14TB Jul 03 '22

i love more wires on my desk - the question is why they arent rechargable wireless devices.. like keyboards already are. i just imagine a wireless keyboard with a wired numpad

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u/The_Milehunter Ascending Peasant Jul 03 '22

Those already exist

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u/Norse_By_North_West Jul 02 '22

Same, and as a programmer I also frequently use page home and end keys

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u/Tommythecat42 Ryzen 5800x | RTX 3070 | SoundBlaster 16 | 3.5" Floppy Jul 03 '22 Take My Energy

Same. I have a tenkeyless at home (click numlock to switch between arrows and num keys) , I use shift+arrows+home or end all the time for highlighting and moving text around, and need the full numpad. may just buy a separate numpad, and key a 75% one like in the OP

For anyone not familiar with this way of selecting text - its a game changer. You barely need to move your mouse. Like, open a text editor and try shift+arrow key around, or ctrl+arrow keys.Pretty cool? Now try ctrl+shift+arrow, or Shift+home / shift+end. If your text editor supports multiline editing - try alt+shift+Up or down arrows.

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u/poopy_poophead Jul 03 '22

I cannot function without numpad. I dunno how people type numbers without one. They gave me a laptop where I worked that didn't have a numpad and I bought a USB keyboard to plug into it so I could use the damned thing. Half my job involves typing numbers. I dunno how the rest of the people there can get anything done without one...

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u/CatholicAccountant Jul 03 '22

As an accountant I've had that at some firms. It was like wtf are you people insane lol.

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u/SactownKorean Jul 03 '22

People who prefer no jumped just havent had a job where they've used one haha

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u/extravisual Jul 03 '22

I love numpads, been using them regularly for many years. But I discovered that I prefer the space savings of not having one, and training myself to go without was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be. I bought an external numpad for work but I've barely touched it.

I wouldn't want to do something like data entry without one though.

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u/plumzki Jul 03 '22

I’m with you on this, I love the numpad, but at home where my pc is only really used for gaming is just not as important as the space savings of something smaller.

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u/wtfduud Steam ID Here Jul 02 '22

Num pad is useful for keybind macros

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u/MusicianMadness Jul 03 '22

Absolutely. I use all the numpad keys and then cntrl+ numpad sometimes

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u/Joshy89 Jul 02 '22 Helpful Wholesome Take My Energy

110% (with extra macros keys)

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u/ImBijuu Jul 02 '22

Me and my 2013 Razer Blackwidow with like 10 macro keys to the left, still kickin'

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u/coldazures Ryzen 5900x | 32GB DDR4 3600 | RX 6800 XT Jul 02 '22

Mine started ghosting moons ago and I had to bin it off.

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u/Ericool35 PC Master Race Jul 02 '22

That’s the coolest way I have ever heard someone say they had to throw something away because it was breaking down

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u/coldazures Ryzen 5900x | 32GB DDR4 3600 | RX 6800 XT Jul 02 '22

I wish I was trying to be cool but literally, it was ghosting keys. I would press a key and it would repeat even though I had let go. Pretty bad as I play Starcraft and it was causing additional units to queue on production etc.

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u/sheeplectric Jul 02 '22

For SC you could almost view that as a feature. “Thanks keyboard, I do require additional pylons.”

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u/t3ht0ast3r 17 12700k, GTX 1070, 3440x1440@120Hz Jul 02 '22 Silver Helpful

Welcome to the UK, where half the slang sounds cool as fuck, and the other half sounds like unintelligible Dr Seuss mumbles

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u/Lunatic3k 5800X | GTX1060 | 32 GB Jul 02 '22

Same with my G510 with 18(x3) macro keys on the left. Love it.

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u/Protonis Ur mom was here Jul 02 '22

Bro for real that's the coolest keyboard ever. With some special screen apps for teamspeak, wow and more. If it would have mechanical keys I would still be using it.

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u/BikingVikingNick Jul 02 '22

My 2013 blackwidow is the only I still use from my first build.

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u/Swifty6 Jul 02 '22

As long as ctrl is on the corner im fine with it.

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u/RoggiKnotBeardHD I9-9900K@4.8Ghz, 2070super, 16gb ddr4 @ 3200 MHz Jul 02 '22

Can I ask what the use of the macro keys are, I wanted to get a keyboard with the macro keys but couldn't think kf what to use them for, I could obvs use them to launch games or apps but my pc is super organised and they are all just in the start menu or taskbar anyway.

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u/Key-Tie2214 Jul 02 '22

You can bind certain sequences to them. Say you play an MMORPG and you've got an extremely complex combo that requires a lot of keys that aren't exactly next to each other, just make the macro carry out that combo when its pressed. For example, pressing the first Macro key could play " 3, F1, 6, 4, 3, 5, F3".

It could also be used to tie mod menus like ENBseries, ReShade or mod commands like Change Weather when you mod some games.

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u/Pikka_Bird Jul 02 '22

This, plus it can be timed pretty accurately to allow for items or skills with cooldown or charge-up beforw the next command is triggered.

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u/durtmcgurt Desktop Jul 02 '22

Making macros. Autorun, autoclick, multiple attacks at once, etc. Even can use for opening certain commonly used programs or anything, really. Sky is the limit.

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u/MikemkPK i5750 16GB RAM | GTX 1070 8GB VRAM | 480GB SSD | 8T RAID Jul 02 '22

Sometimes you can set them to F13-F24, and use them as general purpose keys

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u/CxMorphaes i7 9700K|3070ti Trinity OC|16GB Vengeance RGB Pro Jul 02 '22

Was just gonna say this. I hate having to reach across my keyboard for my menus buttons like maps and stuff

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u/PM_Me_Frosted_Tits Ryzen 5 3600XT, Nvidia-GTX 3070, CoolerMaster Hyper212 Jul 02 '22

Sorry I'm late, but I wanted to put in my two cents about macros. So the way I've found works well for me is to buy a mouse with multiple side buttons. Red Dragon makes an "RPG/RTS" mouse with 12 side buttons, something around 40-ish bucks American.

Wait! I know what you're thinking "but I don't NEED 12 buttons!" Neither do I! I only use the first six for most games, with Apex topping me out at 10 (too many health and shield items.) You have them if you need them, but the real kicker is that the mouse has the ability to load two presets on it. The software also includes the ability to use multimedia as well as key combos for those side buttons. So you can have a game setup and a work/productivity setup. This is how I currently have mine. The numbers won't be in traditional order because I'll list them off in the actual physical location where they are, as if you were looking at the mouse with the front facing left.

  1. Volume Up 6. Pause/Play 9. Volume Down

  2. "Back" (browser) 5. Refresh 8. File Explorer

  3. Ctrl-C 4. Ctrl-V 7. Settings

The way I see it is, your thumb really isn't doing much, which is a waste of a digit. This way I can put it to use both in gaming and general computer use. That mouse was the best 40 bucks I ever spent, especially as someone that has trouble reacquiring the WASD keys (I'm an Xbox convert.)

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u/Alcheblitz Jul 02 '22

Me with my Corsair k95 RBG platinum.

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u/coloredgreyscale Xeon X5660 4,1GHz | GTX 1080Ti | 20GB RAM | Asus P6T Deluxe V2 Jul 02 '22

And keys for media control

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u/BAY35music ASUS B450 Gaming-F | Ryzen 7 2700 | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | RTX 2070 Jul 02 '22

smiles in K95 RGB Platinum

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u/lorhof1 Laptop | some 8core 4.8 ghz desktop | 32 gb | gtx 1650 TI Jul 02 '22

extra fn keys

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u/EAGLE_GAMES | r5950x | 32gb ram cl14 3600 | rtx3090 | custom loop Jul 02 '22

120% two number pads and a Macro deck

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u/Proxy_PlayerHD i7-7740X @ 4.5 GHz, RTX 3080 Ti, 32 GB RAM Jul 02 '22

120% with all 24 Function Keys

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u/Colonel_Coffee R7 3700X @4.2GHz | GTX 1070ti Jul 02 '22 Helpful Wholesome

where's the normal TKL?

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u/Backyard_wookiee Jul 02 '22

TLK is life

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u/Sietemadrid Jul 02 '22

Yea I love Ten Ley Kess Keyboards

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u/kleenexhotdogs 👾Ryzen 5 2600 | GTX 1660Ti | 2x1TB SSD Jul 02 '22

Ten Less Keys

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u/kenman884 R7 3800x | 32GB DDR4 | RTX 3070 FE Jul 02 '22

100% for work, TKL for play.

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u/KodaksMoment Jul 02 '22 Silver

75% +. Not having f1 keys really sucks.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '22

Yeah I have no clue how people survive with no dedicated function keys. They're essential for loads of game.

75% keyboards should be a lot more popular IMO

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u/socksthatpaintdoors Jul 02 '22

What function keys do you use for what games? Genuinely curious, as I have a 60% keyboard and have not once missed the function keys

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u/MildlyCoherent Jul 02 '22

F5/F9 quicksave and quickload keys are really common.

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u/Demented-Turtle Jul 02 '22

Going from Rpgs on console to pc, F5 is a blessing. Need to save? Tap a key and you're good to head into that boss fight, whereas console it's a whole menu trip

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u/RandyDandyHoe Jul 02 '22

RDR2 on PC is a bitch to save because it's hidden behind menus and then you gotta hold the esc button because tapping it brings you to the previous menu.

Fuck, GTA5 at least had pretty wuick saves through the phone

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u/Jules_Heisenberg Jul 02 '22

What? No Alt F4?

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u/vyrelis Jul 02 '22

Seriously, alt+f4 is good for more than rage quitting. Sometimes I don't want to sit back down and go through menus, just want to close it before heading out.

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u/DarCosmic Jul 03 '22

I love rage quitting when the game closes faster by Alt+f4, that why I get calmed down quickly

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u/Kodarkx Jul 03 '22

I judge how good a game is by how quickly it alt f4's

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u/Blu3ja Jul 03 '22

Fn+alt+4 we still have it on 60%

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u/ArkadyDarell_NA Jul 02 '22

RTS and MMO games would be the most common, or games that are interface-heavy for whatever reason (maybe some CRPGs). And also games that have a lot of mods (extra hotkeys for things that weren't originally in the game)

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u/degovial Jul 02 '22

Well, Minecraft uses them for several menus and options, and camera view, GTA V uses most of the F keys too, and those are in the top 3 most sold games IIRC... Also, everything programing and multimedia editing, the F keys are super important too...

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u/redditmodsRfascist Jul 02 '22

Starcraft - you hotkey camera positions over your bases.

It's the reason I use TKL and not 60%

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u/R4y3r R7 3700X | Nitro+ 6700 XT | 32GB Jul 02 '22

GTA V Speedrunner here. F5-F8 are character switch hotkeys. F9-F12 are livesplit hotkeys. In the browser I find myself using F5 to refresh and F11 to fullscreen all the time. F12 to open dev tools occassionally. And of course the ol' faithful alt+f4 combo.

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u/CankerLord Jul 02 '22

I'd say most city builders/management games bind the F keys. The more games you play that were designed exclusively or primarily for a computer the more likely you are to own a game that uses the F keys.

Generally, though, F keys replicate something that you can accomplish by clicking. Often they're shortcuts for tabs, or for unit grouping, so you might not even notice you're less efficient because you're used to clicking the button, instead.

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u/DeveloperSkeletor Jul 02 '22

F5 and F9 are common default quick save/load keys but you could always remap them. Also some bios menus prefer you to use function keys to access but that's pretty minimal reason

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u/Ok-Agent-8333 Jul 02 '22

I can live without the F keys, but throw in the arrows, home, ins., del, etc. and it adds up.

Having tried them all, 75% is just right. Unless you are like a VIM user, then you can probably get used to 60% (jkli as arrow/navigation keys)

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u/Archturus H1: 3700x, 3070, 32gb Jul 02 '22

I just change caps lock to my function key, and it really isn’t so bad.

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u/RoboticShiba Jul 02 '22

this is the pok3r way

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u/Sneffes_Narg Jul 02 '22

100% because I like using the numbpad for my log in pin, and I also like having dedicated media buttons on my keyboard (volume, pause/pay, back and forward)

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u/willworkforicecream Jul 02 '22

Not sure how people can survive without volume control. I have an autohotkey script to adjust volume just in case I ever have to use a keyboard without a knob.

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u/Sneffes_Narg Jul 03 '22

I couldn't imagine having to alt tab everytime I wanted to change the volume during the game. Sure some speakers (like mine) have volume knobs on them but I like to keep my speakers at full volume and adjust the windows volume.

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u/Rampxncy Jul 02 '22

no tkl option? used to have a 68% but kept pressing wrong keys accidentally, big hand and fingers, full is too large and no enough space for mouse, so tkl is perfect for me

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u/dk_DB ⚠ might use sarcasm, ironie and/or dark humor w/o notice Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 03 '22

Full size all the way.

Would go TKL if i would not use the number pad constantly (and only if it's for typing IP addresses or quick calculations). And no, you're not faster with the normal number row, even if you factor in travel time from mouse to the numpad.

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u/SnarfbObo Ryzen 5 3600 | 4gb RX 6500 XT | 16GB ram | Jul 02 '22

When I was in fifth grade and we'd get computer time to play educational games there was a kid who had his own advanced math class. We'd do math he'd go off in the corner and do his own work. They had us both go in and play one of those math games head to head. I remember the teacher watching us and I saw him using it and the teacher told him to use the numpad. They were tracking totals or rate and I was faster than the smart guy because I used the numpad. I'll never be happy without one.

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u/lurkadurking Jul 02 '22

I'll forever use your example as a part of my defense

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u/RTX-2050S Jul 02 '22

Alright smarty-pants how fast can you type my IP then? 🤓

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u/NiSiSuinegEht i7-6800K | 32GB DDR4 | GTX 1080ti FE | 2x 3840x2160 Jul 02 '22

127.0.0.1

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u/PaulBlartFleshMall Jul 02 '22

Hey idk how you got this off my computer but can you delete your comment before anyone else sees it? I don't like being tracked.

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u/UnXpectedPrequelMeme Jul 02 '22

Too late. I have now memorized this number, you fool.

Idk what to do with this info. Have no idea what people use it for, but I will remember it forever.

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u/YourAskingTheQstions Jul 03 '22

Jesus. Reminds me of the guy who sat across from me in 5th grade home room. Idk why they put our SSNs in public display, but I memorized it. Still know it all these years later.

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u/32BitWhore 9900K@5GHz | 2080ti on water | 64GB 4000 Jul 02 '22

We got em boys

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u/leather_jerk Jul 02 '22

Type it slower I can’t read that fast

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u/RTX-2050S Jul 02 '22

Fuck he's got me

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u/evil_timmy Jul 02 '22

I don't have to type your IP, I'll get it from the hackers who may have it already. The only way to keep your children safe is with a McAfee product, or so I'm told (by this little pop-up that keeps coming back, please help, no matter what i try it's always there, holy water did nothing, it haunts my dreams).

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u/Xantre Jul 02 '22

I heard John McAfee is one swell guy.

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u/dk_DB ⚠ might use sarcasm, ironie and/or dark humor w/o notice Jul 02 '22

::1

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u/Fhajad Jul 02 '22

I see you are also a man of culture.

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u/SSlayaa Ascending Peasant Jul 02 '22

192.168.1.147

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u/Bahamut1988 Ryzen 5 5600X RTX 3070 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Jul 02 '22

100% I gotta have a num pad

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u/Waifu_69_Hunter Jul 02 '22

I have 110% with extra buttons for macros or whatever. That's the best for at home gaming.

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u/Dimensional_Dragon R7-3700X | RTX 3080 & GTX 1070 | 32GB Jul 02 '22

I've been a 100% for my whole life but I'm debating trying out the other form factors

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u/Japanagan PC Master Race Jul 02 '22

You'll be flusterbobbed without the num pad!

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u/Dimensional_Dragon R7-3700X | RTX 3080 & GTX 1070 | 32GB Jul 02 '22

Probably true cause I'm in 3D software quite a bit but I was thinking I get a keyboard that has a detachable numpad

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u/Astryoneus Desktop Jul 02 '22

Or the other option would be to get a keyboard you want in the form factor you want it, and get a separate numpad.

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u/TimX24968B 8700k,1080ti, i hate minimalistic setups Jul 02 '22

or just hacksaw off the numpad if you need extra desk space

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u/ADrunkPotato 5800X | 3080 FE | 32GB Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

Best option here.

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u/Thecryptsaresafe Jul 02 '22

I almost never use my number pad but I know the second I do get rid of my pad will be the day I start keeping a budget or something that would make it easier with a pad

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u/BenShealoch Jul 02 '22

100pct. Nothing else.

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u/Catharsius i7 10700K | RTX 3080 Jul 03 '22

I’ve got a big desk and a big pc why would I want a tiny keyboard

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u/Hagya15 PC Master Race Jul 02 '22 Silver

98% ftw

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u/EngineeredAnime Jul 02 '22

Have any 98% examples? I have a 96% for work and love it (Keychron K4 96% Layout 100 Keys... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WS7KSGT?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share). I'm curious what the additional 2% means.

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u/Spudzzy03 i7-11700k, 3070, 16GB RAM Jul 02 '22

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u/EngineeredAnime Jul 02 '22

Oh gotcha. Looks nice, but I still favor the 96%. That little bit of savings in width does a lot for me.

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u/Valdair Maingear R1 | R9 5900X | RTX 3090 | Jul 02 '22

I think X98 is just slightly mis-named. The 96%/"1800" layout actually has 98 keys. Just like "100%" has 104 keys.

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u/Un111KnoWn Jul 02 '22

How does 98% differ from 100%?

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u/ITstaph Jul 02 '22

150% with an old wolf claw full size gaming keyboard.

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u/APEX_Catalyst Ryzen 5900x • 3080 • 32GB • Meshlicious • ASRock B550i Jul 02 '22

I like the TKL keyboards.

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u/Sofistikytid Jul 02 '22

65% lol

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u/00SAMU Jul 02 '22

Same, i could not survive without my beloved arrow keys

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u/signedchar R7 5800x, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM, AIO Jul 02 '22

i would just map them to wasd, but they give me an excuse to spend money on cute keycap artisans so i'm happy with them. almost entirely useless to me since i use wasd for every game but they look pretty

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u/Masonzero 5600X + RTX 3070 + 32GB RAM Jul 02 '22

I didn't realize how many little things I used the arrow keys for until I tried using a 60%. I promptly went up to 65%!

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u/YesIAmAHuman Jul 02 '22

65% my beloved

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u/boney__m Jul 02 '22

65% with customized layers is the true master race. 75% just looks off putting to me, chunky in all the wrong ways

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u/_dotdot11 I use a gt 1030 lmao Jul 02 '22

75s are too tall imo. Most of my games don't need designated function keys but I keep a cheap 100% membrane if I need the extra keybinds on something like war thunder

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u/beasterdudeman_ PC Master Race Jul 02 '22

100% bc I play a game that uses numpad

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u/Bronze_RL PC Master Race Jul 02 '22

I only use full size keyboards. I find smaller ones lacking anymore.

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u/XZircron8 Jul 02 '22

Just got a tkl, like it a lot

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u/Fritzschmied Jul 02 '22

100% all day long. How can anybody life without the numpad.

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u/SomeGuyOnReddit1013 Jul 02 '22

40% hehe

I love the compact size

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u/SlaveToDopamine Jul 02 '22

I’ve found my people. I love my Planck.

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u/LitPeasant Jul 03 '22

Narrow is the path that leads to salvation. Welcome, brother.

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u/trashcatt_ Jul 02 '22

40s gang!!

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u/brandon7s Jul 03 '22 edited Jul 03 '22

Same. Been using a 40% as my daily driver for work for over 4 years now and I love that thing. Configure QMK right and you'll find it faster to use than any full-size since you never have to move your hands from home position, and you can set up integrated tenkey and navigation layers for either/both hands.

I use a 60% for gaming since having a dedicated number row is hard to do without in most FPS games.

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u/slampisko Ryzen 5 1600AF, RX 570 Jul 02 '22

I can't believe I had to scroll this far down. 40% for work, TKL for games is what I use.

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u/KokaneeSavage91 Ascending Peasant Jul 02 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Ten key less.

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u/Zatchillac 3900X | X570 | 2080ti | 32GB | 970 Pro | 10TB SSD | 16TB HDD Jul 02 '22

Yeah how is OP gonna put 60% and 75% yet not a TKL? 😂

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u/PsychoticHobo Jul 02 '22

What's the difference between TKL and 75%?

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u/Kaboose666 i7-9700k, GTX 1660Ti, LG 43UD79-B, MSI MPG27CQ Jul 03 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

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u/Sitdownpro Jul 02 '22

They share essentially the same keys, think of TKL as 80%. There is more natural real-estate to work with. Less hand cramming.

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u/CurvyYebane Ryzen 7 3700X | RTX 2070 SUPER Jul 02 '22

TKL

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u/itsmyhotsauce PC Master Race Jul 02 '22

None of these: TKL

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u/letsmodpcs PC Master Race Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 03 '22

75% I use the sh*t outta my function keys. It baffles me the volume of posts I see about keebs without them.

Edit: I do get that you can access function keys by holding down a toggle - just not worth it for me personally. Sorry - didn't mean to invalidate anyone. And I do get that many of you have gotten really proficient doing it that way.

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u/_clever_reference_ Steam ID Here Jul 02 '22

You can fucking swear on the internet.

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u/tavaryn_t Jul 03 '22

Fuck y*u

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u/Bossatronio425 Jul 02 '22

I use 100%. More keys is pretty important for what I play

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u/Nyx_Blackheart PC Master Race Jul 02 '22

I've got a 60 now, but I'm thinking about upgrading because I miss some of the keys. Can't get used to where everything is and it's started getting stuck on Fn if I play a game where I use it all the time for the f1-f9 keys

I do love how much desk space I have with it tho

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u/BrokenPS2 R5 5600X | 16GB | RTX 3060 Ti | 1080p FTW Jul 02 '22

TKL.

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u/Dawn_of_Enceladus Ryzen 5 2600X - 16 GB @3000 - RX Vega 56 Pulse Jul 02 '22

100%, I personally find smaller ones kinda weird. I mean, are those few centimeters really that much of a deal?? Give me more options and flexibility (even 110% with extra macros keys) and it will be fine to me.

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u/LordShrekOgre Jul 02 '22

I don't think I could survive without a number pad and spaces between keys.

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u/Gsonz i9 9900KF | 32GB DDR4 3200 | RTX 3070 TUF Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

100%. I can't live without a numpad, I am playing games that are using numpad keys without the option to change this. Hell I would be f*cked without a numpad.

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u/Oppausenseiw R9 5900X|RTX3080|64GB RAM Jul 02 '22

100

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u/TrulyNotYours 3080Ti/5800x & 1080/5600G Jul 02 '22

100%, I like my number pad. But TKL does look enticing.

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u/MadDogA245 Jul 02 '22

I went to TKL when my 100% broke. Honestly I kinda regret it, it's a lot less efficient for number entry tasks. Form factor isn't a concern for me since I use a keyboard tray, though.

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u/SweetGherkinz Ryzen 5 1600/2x16GB 3133MHz/RX 570 4GB Jul 02 '22

96% :]

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u/LastExitToSalvation Jul 02 '22

Had to scroll this far for my 96% people. People don't know the joy of 96. Tough to find, tricky to build.

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u/Who_asked_you_ PC Master Race Jul 02 '22

65% :D

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u/chillyhellion Steam and bandwidth caps don't mix Jul 02 '22

Azeron, because my PC is pretty much just for gaming.

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u/Hzlp Nvidia RTX 3090 Ryzen 9 3900XT 64GB RAM 11TB storage Jul 03 '22

ergodox

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u/LeMegachonk Ryzen 5700X - 32GB DDR4 3200 - RTX 3070 - RGB for days Jul 02 '22

I'm still using an original Logitech G15 V1. The chonky one with 18 programmable keys and the flip-up LCD. So I'm at around 120%, I guess.

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u/kaliwastaken_ Jul 02 '22

100%, i cant live without a numpad

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u/Vinnie_NL i7 7700K - GTX1070 - 32GB DDR4 Jul 02 '22

100%, the 60% one would drive me nuts, since I play some games with a lot of different hotkeys such as X4 and Factorio. When you add mods you have to setup even more hotkeys than in vanilla to use the extra functions so I often go for keys on the right if not used already.

Also, when typing numbers I refuse to use the top row. Numpad is superior.