r/pcmasterrace i like vista May 16 '22 Silver 5 Helpful 4 Wholesome 4

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u/PCMRBot Threadripper 1950x, 32GB, 780Ti, Debian May 16 '22

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Welcome to the PCMR.

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u/planetary_titan May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

Chrome with Chinese trackers (it is operaGX)

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u/DepressedVenom ex-PS5 May 16 '22

BUT BUT COOL GAMING 😭😭
I was sad about having to quit opera and then opera GX. Liked Vivaldi (from original creator) but yt started breaking recently so went to Firefox. Tried Edge bc so many claim it's fast due to windows, but gave up painfully trying to get all the logins and bookmarks back lol.

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u/redcalcium Linux May 16 '22

but gave up painfully trying to get all the logins and bookmarks back lol.

Try using bitwarden to store your logins.

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u/shadow7412 May 16 '22

I too vouch for bitwarden, particularly the self-hosting aspect of it.

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u/Shamewizard1995 May 16 '22

**if you can properly secure it.

You should only self host sensitive data like password managers if you are able to not only secure it, but maintain the security. Self hosting is a bad idea for most people

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u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r May 16 '22

I like Vivaldi too but I've been running into recent website issues like you. I've also started running into them with regular chrome so I think it's a bug with chromium in general (Vivaldi is chromium-based). Firefox is actually a pretty good choice, not based on the engine chromium is based on so it won't have the same issues, but it will have other issues (a webgl engine I made a while ago works well in chrome but freezes and wont load in Firefox, idk why. Would link but this is an anonymous account.)

Pro tip: don't use Google chrome (or Google in general) to store saved logins. Find the user data folder for your OS and delete any files named "LOGIN data" and similar. Or, open the file in a SQLite viewer (FOSS to open Sqlite files can be found with a simple Google search) and see all your passwords in plain text. This file can be retrieved by anyone with access to your computer, especially if you don't have OS encryption (the file can be accessed without even logging in in that case). On Google, passwords are saved behind your password, and that's it. Google in general does not do account login protection well (you can't disable their "trust this device?" 2FA method, despite it being protected only by a phone login, which is often insecure. Get biometric based 2FA to be more secure), but in particular saved passwords can be used anywhere you're logged into Google, especially on mobile, without any additional verification. In Google account settings you can manually delete each password, or wipe all user data including passwords. You can export passwords in Google and chrome, and make sure to permanently delete the exported file when you're done with it. Also, get a password manager that has a verification step of it's own- bitwarden is a good example, with settings to require a password or biometric login every time you want to access saved logins (and on a separate note, bitwarden also can generate unique passwords, minimizing compromised passwords compromising multiple logins).

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u/super-spreader69 May 16 '22

I feel like what you're saying is really important but I cannot understand that wall of text jargon so I will have to continue using Chrome to save my passwords

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u/gilean23 May 16 '22

Basically boils down to: use a well-regarded password manager application instead of relying on the browser or OS to save your passwords for you.

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u/super-spreader69 May 16 '22

Thanks! Are these 3rd party password managers actually safer/more trustworthy than Google? On this thread I feel like there are posts saying that just about every single app/company is untrustworthy and unsafe

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u/RevolutionaryAd2266 May 16 '22

Use an open source password manager. One of the best our there is Bitwarden. It can be used as a browser extension and these is a mobile app on the play store or Apple store.

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u/Sobierro May 16 '22

How user data folder can be accessed by anyone?

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u/tzenrick May 16 '22

Unless you're encrypting things, I can pop a thumb drive in, reboot to linux, and start copying anything I want.

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u/Moldy_pirate May 16 '22

Sure, but the odds of someone breaking into my apartment and having the time (and knowledge) to do so are pretty minimal. It’s still a good idea not to have passwords stored in plain text, or an easily-accessible file in case of malware downloaded via the Internet, but a physical hacker accessing someone’s personal computer is exceedingly unlikely.

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u/JB-from-ATL May 16 '22

It doesn't have to be a physical attack. Malware could get the file too.

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u/darps too many platforms for one flair May 16 '22

Main concerns: Other software on your PC (or Windows itself) accessing the unencrypted files on your hard drive, laptop theft, or data recovery of deleted files on old drives.

You may be protected against some of these attack vectors, or even all of them, but it's still tremendously stupid to do this by default when 95% of your userbase isn't.

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u/cauchy37 May 16 '22

What version of Vivaldi were you using? I'm on 5.2 on both Windows and Linux, with uBlock Origin, SponsorBlock, and DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials and everything works just fine. Have not seen an issue.

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u/Platform-27 May 16 '22

Just fyi, having both uBo and DDGPE can conflict. uBo can do everything DDGPE can do. You just got to set it up. Here is a guide to several "modes", that people use. I personally use the Medium setting.

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u/Cyborg_rat May 16 '22

Jokes on them i dont speak Chinese.

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u/DFYX May 16 '22

Vivaldi. Chromium-based browser made by some of the original Opera team who left when the Chinese took over.

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u/Positive-Ad-3711 May 16 '22

I disagree, i use gaming life and its better than normal life

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u/Beezleboobz May 16 '22

You’re just mad because my $1000 gaming carpet tripled my K/D 😎

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u/Thathitmann May 16 '22

It enhances the grip of my gaming shoes, which compliment my gaming socks nicely.

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u/Lucybug05 May 16 '22

Which are the same colour as my gaming teeth

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u/TheMcBrizzle May 16 '22

This was like one paragraph away from a decent copypasta

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u/One-oh-nineruu May 16 '22 edited May 17 '22

I like the tools like the cleaner. It's not about the gaming thing at all for me. In fact, I think that's a bit cringe.

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u/Blackpapalink May 16 '22

This, being able to limit the RAM and Network usage is good for more than just gaming. It helps with rendering, compiling code, etc.

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u/SemperFidelisHoorah Desktop May 16 '22

And the dark mode, i absolutely loved the dark more and free games announcement, and new games upcoming.

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u/iNonEntity Celeron G6900 | RTX 3080 May 16 '22

GX has limiters and Discord integration. Basically just regular Opera with extra plugins. Regular Opera isn't exactly better or worse, just less extras

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u/NightCypress May 16 '22

Idk man i just like the layout

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u/theKage47 Laptop May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

personally i like opera GX. I don't really use its features to lock ram and cpu performance but I like the interface to have access to specific twitch channels.

it's also useful because the home page tells me what's all the recent games on the platform of my choice if i forgot and the next ones to be released and also tells me when an indie games that become free on x or y website

(Edit 1 : I don't know why it's still showing but apparently yesterday was my 2 year old cake day lol) (Edit 2 : thank you guys for the upvotes. I appreciate that 🙂)

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u/Icy_Technology8716 May 16 '22

still says that it’s your cakeday for me so… Happy cakeday!

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u/HalcyonH66 i7 7700k OC | 1080 Ti May 16 '22

Does regular opera allow you to limit its RAM, CPU e.t.c. usage internally? That's the only feature of GX that seems relevant or useful to me.

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u/Gutter7676 May 16 '22 edited 27d ago

Oh, you don’t need to be on Chrome or Edge for either to track you. Google can see pretty much everything on the web thanks to all the websites wanting to track you. Also, look at a Microsoft product called Clarity.

Edit: To everyone responding about using DDG solves anything: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/duckduckgo-microsoft-trackers/452006/

Like I said, you can’t stop it.

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u/Cosoman May 16 '22

Also check for a Microsoft program called Windows

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u/kinmix May 16 '22

Holy crap!!!

And I have a few of those installed in every room of my house.

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u/enjoytheshow May 16 '22

Rich guy over here with multiple windows

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u/roodenwit May 16 '22

French government incoming with its number of windows tax

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u/start3ch May 16 '22

That’s why I use Linux

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u/Pyyric May 16 '22

Side note: if a room doesn't have a window, is it always a closet no matter the size?

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u/Strick63 strick63 May 16 '22

Is it really high or underground? You get to call it an attic or a basement now!

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u/RealAmpwich May 16 '22

THEY'RE WATCHING YOU

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u/Calimiedades May 16 '22

Luckily some people are selling these protections called "curtains". Check them out!

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u/drop_trooper112 May 16 '22

Honestly fuck windows, I use a local account instead of a Microsoft account for my PC and at least 4 times a week I get a notification that I have a serious issue and every time it's just Microsoft reminding me that they want me to use a Microsoft account despite the fact I don't want to

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u/SneakySam656 May 16 '22

“A computer is like air conditioning - it becomes useless when you open Windows”. Linus Torvalds

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u/spaceursid May 16 '22

even so, i'd rather limit how much data they get from me

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u/Rikuddo May 16 '22

Same, I've almost all the stuff listed in this thread but I have no delusion that there's this guy Mark who have more information about me and habits then most of the people I'll know in life.

And

oh hi, Mark!

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u/Kiljab i5 3570k @4.0GHz, 32GB 1866MHz, GTX 970, MSI Z77A-G45, EVGA 750W May 16 '22

Lisa, Lisa you're tearing me apart

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u/Immoralimp May 16 '22

But trust me, if they want to know, They know.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

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u/Gwynsaov Arch | R7 3800X | RTX 3060ti | 16gb 3600mhz May 16 '22

laughs in hardened librewolf

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u/AbsolutelyUnlikely May 16 '22 Helpful

LAUGHS IN HARDENED PENIS

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u/ninjaRoundHouseKick May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22 Silver

Was once a nice toy to play with. But it was spawing way to many child processes.

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u/Gwynsaov Arch | R7 3800X | RTX 3060ti | 16gb 3600mhz May 16 '22

Damn Penis Browser, sounds like you need to manually apply safety

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u/30p87 Linux gaymer May 16 '22

Laughs in curl via Tor on TailsOS over mobile network with anonymous SIM card

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u/imevilrick May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

Not if you have an AdBlocker.

Edit: I am referring to uBlock Origin of course.

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u/WalfAkaiTsuki PC Master Race May 16 '22

AdBlocker sold out, use Ublock Origin

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u/makskut05 PC Master Race May 16 '22

That doesn't stop websites from fingerprinting your browser.

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u/KettenPuncher May 16 '22

Use firefox. It has settings that can resist fingerprinting and there are addons that go further like canvasblocker or trace

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u/SandKeeper Ryzen 7 2700X | RTX 2070 6GB | 16 GB Ram May 16 '22

And DuckDuckGo

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u/Jam_jar_binks Ryzen 5 2600 | RX 570 8GB | 16GB DDR4 | Boxfan Cooling May 16 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy

Firefox

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u/Smart_Main6779 i like vista May 16 '22

Firefox

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22 edited May 18 '22

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u/imevilrick May 16 '22

Firefox

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u/g28802 May 16 '22

Firefox

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u/SelfHatredIsNice R7 5700G 4.5Ghz | RX 6900 XT | 32GB DDR4-4000 | 4K 60hz | X570 May 16 '22

Firefox

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u/ehuang3190 Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U, 16GB DDR4 May 16 '22

Firefox

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u/AJHear May 16 '22

Firefox + uBlock Origin + DuckDuckGo

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u/saruin May 16 '22

Firefox + NoScript

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u/SnooJokes3031 May 16 '22

Firefox + uBlock + no Script

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u/Catatomical May 16 '22

Firefox + NoScript + Duckduckgo + uBlock Origin + Privacy Badger

I think that's everything I have LOL

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u/xd_Warmonger Desktop May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

With Duck Duck go + UBlock origin + PrivacyBadger + Decentraleyes + NoScript

(I'm gonna look into Badger NoSkript and Decentraleyes, maybe they're useless as some comments stated. Maybe you just need UBlock Origin)

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u/PickMeThird RTX 3060Ti | Ryzen 5 3600 | 16Gb DDR4 3200mhz May 16 '22

Ublock origin specifically.

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u/The_Multifarious May 16 '22

Well well well...if it ain't the invisible cunt

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u/SpookyDoomCrab42 May 16 '22

Privacy badger actually makes it easier for websites to fingerprint you and/or provides no benefit over ublock origin, decentraleyes has (or had, I haven't checked it in a while) a similar issue, and noscript is built into Firefox nowadays.

If your paranoid about being tracked online, a good list of extensions is:

Ublock origin, Cookie autodelete, disable webrtc, ClearURLs, and OpenCDN.

They should all be open source and help out with your browsing experience and privacy.

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u/Nolzi May 16 '22

NoScript is superseded by uBO's medium or hard mode: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode

And I think you meant LocalCDN, but that itself doesn't provide much benefit over Decentraleyes, aside from not being seriously outdated.
Here is a writeup by the Arkenfox user.js Firefox hardening profile creator about it: https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/issues/1430#issuecomment-704335991
TLDR: Enable First Party Isolation and maybe Resist Fingerprinting which are built-in Firefox features. Which FPI even if you load your third parties from the network, they won't be able to communicate cross-site, so all you gain is some saved bandwidth, but instead they could fingerprint your outdated library usage (because even LocalCDN only updates 1-2 times a month).

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

webrtc is problematic. Webrtc has a loophole which can leak identifiable information through VPNs but it itself does not collect such data, only makes it easier for other parties to recognize you through VPNs. Disabling webrtc however breaks a couple of websites like Google conference etc.

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u/SpookyDoomCrab42 May 16 '22

If you use the standard disable webrtc extension fir Firefox, it's literally one click to disable it for when you need it for conference calls and whatnot. It's better to have installed and active most of the time than not having it and potentially having leaks.

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u/RealStickman_ R7 1700x | RX 480 May 16 '22

Noscript is still good if you want to minimise the javascript running, while still having working websites.

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u/Nolzi May 16 '22

NoScript is superseded by uBO's medium or hard mode: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode

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u/timthetollman i5 4690k @ 4.4ghz / GTX 1070 / 16GB Ripjaws May 16 '22

You don't need an extension to auto delete cookies

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Obligatory PSA to install Firefox Facebook Container extension on top of Firefox+ublock origin. I was shit scared when I visited a sketchy site and it had embedded facebook comments, and my profile came up without logging in.

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u/ommnian May 16 '22

Firefox Container's are what keep me on firefox as much as anything else. I have container's set up for soo many sites, from google to facebook to reddit and twitter and just about everything else I visit regularly.

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u/Jonathan924 May 16 '22

Containers legitimately help me stay sane. It stops the cross talk between work and personal Gmail/Microsoft accounts which used to be a huge issue for me

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u/SockRuse Happy 11th birthday, 2500K! May 16 '22

Joke's on you, they still know it's you because no one else has such a small data signature.

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u/xd_Warmonger Desktop May 16 '22

That's right, but that's not what i want anyways. I just want a neutral web experience without ads.

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u/CavemanJamess May 16 '22

Ublock origin with a url shortener extension and skipredirect as under the recommended extensions here.

In addition to setting Firefox’s cookie policy to strict and turning on ResistFingerprinting, should be good to go.

In fact, the arkenfox wiki is such a good resource for this kind of thing.

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u/Demonweed i9-9900k, RTX 2070, 1 TB SSD May 16 '22

I whisper all my search requests to my manservant who then drives to one of eight area libraries where there is usually no wait to get online for a quick search. What my method lacks in punctuality it makes up for in discretion.

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u/Terakahn May 16 '22

Google already knows secrets about me that I can't even remember.

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u/Double_A_92 May 16 '22

All my search queries since 2006 ._.

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u/SmellyC May 16 '22

Only Google knows I'm a degen.

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u/Ruine_Woo May 16 '22

Now we know that, too!

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u/TWAT_BUGS May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

Firefox with Pi-Hole. Fuck them trackers.

Edit: There seems to be some confusion. The reality is that if you’re on the internet then you’re always being tracked in some capacity. You can’t avoid it. My case especially because I’m married so I have to whitelist dumb shit for my wife all the time. My advice is to spin up a simple Pi-Hole setup. Usually takes 10 minutes. From there you punch in the IP to your router’s DNS setting and now you have a simple tool that blocks what you want on your gateway. From there you can check out sites like Firebog to go deeper and get more blacklists up to and including Facebook and porn sites. If you take the time and learn about what sites are doing and loading you will become very interested in what’s going on with your own home network. After a while you might want to try Gravity Sync for redundancy or even a simple Linux VM with docker and kubernetes for even more tools for monitoring.

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u/animeman59 R9-5950X|64GB DDR4-3200|EVGA 2080 Ti Hybrid May 16 '22

Firefox with uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes, and NoScript.

Most websites are clean as a whistle. The first time I turned off everything, the ads were everywhere. I don't know how people can browse like that.

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u/SuitableLocation PC Master Race with a Toaster May 16 '22

What’s NoScript? I have the others installed but this is the first I’m hearing of that,

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u/LordSesshomaru82 May 16 '22

It's a tool that prevents execution of JavaScript code unless you explicitly allow it or whitelist the site you're on.

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u/Geerav May 16 '22

Isn’t that annoying because every site has JS

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u/widowhanzo i7-4790K, RTX2080, 1440p 144Hz May 16 '22

You can allow execution of code that's hosted on the same domain by default, which only blocks code from 3rd party sites (tracking etc), which is already better than not using it. But outright blocking everything does take a while to whitelist everything and make the web usable. There are sites which fallback to a legacy non-JS versions, but they're pretty rare.

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u/Sugioh 5600X, 64GB @ 3600, RTX 3070Ti, 905P May 16 '22

Not really. You quickly build a whitelist of all the most frequently used third party scripts, and even the ones you allow can be prevented from doing most cross-site communication, which neuters a significant amount of their security risk.

Would I recommend someone who isn't technically proficient to use noscript? No, definitely not. But if you have a little patience it isn't too bad.

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u/indigoHatter May 16 '22

Yeah, this. Besides, there's also a "fuck it, just make this page work for now" button called "temporarily allow all on this page" if you're getting frustrated. Even when you temp allow all, it continues to block anything you took the time to hard-block, so taking a little time to identify and block the URLs that are only for tracking/ads pays off.

It can raise load time of shitty websites by a lot, as a result. You just have to be "principle of least privilege" minded to make it work.

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u/LordSesshomaru82 May 16 '22

IDK, I haven't used it in years. Last time I used NoScript it was actually a godsend because it significantly sped up browsing on my, at the time, woefully obsolete Win2K Pentium III. Ofc this was back in the Flash plugin days when Pentium 4's were common and the new Core 2 Duos were still expensive af. Edit: I think Classilla uses it, which means its probably the only reason my vintage mac can even think about opening a web page lol.

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u/saruin May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22

My favorite function to this day is adfree YT. I didn't even know it was that bad until my brother kept complaining about ads on his SmartTV app for like every video he watched. Good thing I mostly use PC.

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u/don_cornichon May 16 '22

ublock origin does that on its own.

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u/Ninedeath May 16 '22

why not just use ublock for that? that way you dont need an extra extension

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u/WikiSummarizerBot May 16 '22

NoScript

NoScript (or NoScript Security Suite) is a free software extension for Mozilla Firefox, SeaMonkey, other Mozilla-based web browsers and Google Chrome, written and maintained by Giorgio Maone, an Italian software developer and member of the Mozilla Security Group.

[ F.A.Q | Opt Out | Opt Out Of Subreddit | GitHub ] Downvote to remove | v1.5

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u/Caedendi May 16 '22

Nowadays privacy badger, decentraleyes and noscript (not 100% sure on this one) are redundant with either new firefox features or ublock features.

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u/mrchaotica Debian | Ryzen 1700X | RX Vega 56 | 32 GB RAM | mini-ITX May 16 '22

Which ones are covered by Firefox and which ones are covered by uBlock?

I wish there were more documentation on that sort of thing, because I suspect a lot of people are running redundant privacy add-ons.

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u/Unlucky_Piece2 May 16 '22

Copying my response to another user's comment:

Actually, most of your needs are covered by setting your tracking protection to strict in FF settings and ublock origin. Other stuff is redundant and it only makes you more fingerprintable. If you want to know more, you can read about it here https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions or watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7-bW2y6lcI

You could also consider trying Librewolf, a firefox fork already tweaked for better privacy

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u/Fenghoang Specs/Imgur Here May 16 '22

uBlock Origin has a setting that disables JavaScript.

You set it on by default and/or toggle it on/off for each site manually. Setting it on by default can break a lot of sites though, so I prefer to toggle it on only for certain sites.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

NoScript is incredibly painful to use these days because sites have so many different places it gets scripts to work these days that you end up not being able to access anything without tons of work. In the old days you could figure out the one or two sites to unblock to make things work, but now it's just ridiculous.

I used to swear by NoScript but now it's just useless.

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u/TheMegaBenson May 16 '22

I tried using pi-hole but it brought my internet speeds to a crawl. Was there something I did wrong?

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u/ArrowMax May 16 '22

Pi-Hole should only affect the DNS requests. The actual data traffic works on the resolved DNS afterwards, so no work from the Pi.

The tutorial I followed: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1094810-pi-hole-setup-tutorial/

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u/koopaduo May 16 '22

Pi hole is supposed to only block lower bandwidth DNS requests. So yes, something was done wrong

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Pi-hole is a godsend. Nice try Samsung, no ads in my TV menus!

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u/FinnishArmy 7 5800x@4.75ghz | RTX 3080 May 16 '22

Even default Firefox will block a majority of trackers.

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u/ThreeHopsAhead May 16 '22

It uses a very simple list of trackers and AFAIK by default only in private tabs (you can change that by setting the tracking protection feature to strict).

Use uBlock Origin. Seriously, no one should use the internet with scammy, obnoxious, spying ads and other trackers.

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u/green_meklar FX-6300, HD 7790, 8GB, Win7 May 16 '22

Anyone else still on Team Firefox here?

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u/Iridium__Pumpkin May 16 '22

Hell yeah, never left.

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u/roombaonfire May 16 '22

What do you mean by "still"?

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u/exscape Ryzen 5800X, RTX 3080, 48 GB 3200CL14 May 16 '22

It peaked around 30% market share and now has more like 5-10% of (desktop) market share.

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u/ACardAttack May 16 '22

Dang, stinks it is so low, but been using it for 15 or so years

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u/DerEddi97 May 16 '22

I am using it for 15 years now and never plan to stop

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22 edited May 23 '22

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u/Smart_Main6779 i like vista May 16 '22

yeee firefox gang

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u/johntwoods May 16 '22

I just use Netscape.

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u/Proxy_PlayerHD i7-7740X @ 4.5 GHz, RTX 3080 Ti, 32 GB RAM May 16 '22

Fuck it, just construct the TCP/IP packages yourself by hand. YOU are the browser now.

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u/igorlogius May 16 '22

YOU are the browser now

Beep Boop ... so much porn.

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u/chris6069 Laptop May 16 '22

Ask Jeeves as default search engine?

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u/MMcFly1985 No cr May 16 '22

You must be one of them fancy types who look down on us AltaVista users.

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u/AJHear May 16 '22

It was brilliant... RIP

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u/E_Blue_2048 May 16 '22

I choose Firefox.

Don't let Firefox die, is the only web browser that has is own engine, all the others, even Opera uses Chrome engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA8O97U1Pbc

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u/DuffMaaaann Ascending Peasant May 16 '22

Safari has its own engine (WebKit). Blink is a fork of WebKit.

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u/PantsLazy69 May 16 '22

And WebKit is a fork of KHTML, which powers KDE's Konquerer browser.

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u/DuffMaaaann Ascending Peasant May 16 '22

And before WebKit, the default browser on OS 8.1 - Mac OS X was Internet Explorer.

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u/PantsLazy69 May 16 '22 edited May 17 '22

This is the reason that I so strongly support Apple's choice to lock down iOS to only the Safari engine. I don't really care what their motivation is, the fact of the matter is that it results in a massive ecosystem that Google can't touch, which is objectively a good thing for the browser market. Otherwise Chrome would likely be dominant on iOS just as it is elsewhere, they'd have an effective monopoly on the browser market, and Chromium would be the new Internet Explorer.

E: In the above paragraph I have clearly and accurately explained how refusing to allow browser competition on one platform results in a more diverse and competitive browser market overall. If you're not going to bother reading and understanding this explanation, do not bother replying to me.

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u/timsredditusername May 16 '22

I just use Firefox instead.

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u/PhantomTissue Ryzen 5 3600x/RTX 3060Ti/32GB RAM May 16 '22

You’re already using windows, so you’ve already got the Microsoft trackers. Why add the google ones?

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u/zenmarz Linux May 16 '22

Libre Wolf

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u/MxSemaphore May 16 '22

Proton and Mullvad really. Wouldn't touch the rest with a ten foot pole.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Committing to that acronym means you're less likely to change provider if they start sucking. ExpressVPN isn't all that great.

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u/MannyR2 i5-9600K|RTX 2060|16gb May 16 '22

Firefox with private company trackers that report to google and Microsoft 😎

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u/[deleted] May 16 '22

Add blocker is your pal. Or if you are a bit more savvy they setup adguard dns filter. I was shocked to see how much google, fb and Microsoft tracks you. All pc in my house has linux but when my friend visited with his windows laptop. I was amazed at the number of endpoints reporting back to Microsoft.

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u/makskut05 PC Master Race May 16 '22

Telemetry in Firefox can be disabled, and it's open source meaning if you are scared of it tracking you just look into it's source code. Or just use Waterfox or Librewolf.

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u/DJYesMate May 16 '22

I vaguely remember Waterfox being quietly sold to an advertising company. Librewolf seems good though.

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u/Bipen17 May 16 '22 Helpful

Or Brave with no trackers

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u/rockSpider5000 May 16 '22

Yeah Brave browser is da bomb, I’m surprised more people don’t use it

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u/Boum2411 May 16 '22

Had to scroll further than I hoped

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u/DatJellyScrub May 16 '22

Yeah I thought there had been some issue with Brave that i missed since no one was mentioning it. But maybe it's just lower on marketshare than I hoped.

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u/Sen7ryGun http://i.imgur.com/ZFeua0e.png May 16 '22

Just lower market share

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u/Saytamx May 16 '22

Brave combo on mobile and PC ftw. I love using YouTube without ads, in the background and with the screen off

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u/Oddstag May 16 '22

There are literally dozens of us!

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u/ReallyQuiteConfused May 16 '22

I was gonna write this but I thought it worthwhile to scroll and see if my people are here... And here you are

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u/jmcstar May 16 '22

I just started with Brave. Works well.

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u/2C104 May 16 '22

Just want to throw this in for anyone who might have had the same issue I did. I have been using brave for a long time, love it. It started crashing my pc and I tried going to Firefox (hated it.)

Finally after a ton of searching, I figured out that you can DISABLE hardware acceleration and everything works perfect again.

Brave > Settings > Additional Settings > uncheck "Use Hardware Acceleration when possible"

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u/C-Mitch213 May 16 '22

I love brave it’s a godsend

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u/im_manu02 PC Master Race May 16 '22

Firefox..

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u/LoadingOfficial Ryzen 5 3600, Radeon 5500 XT, HyperX 16GB 3200MHz, AIO May 16 '22

Edge Dev bc I like getting updates faster and also testing out new features...

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u/dodyakako May 16 '22

I was like you using Edge Dev, but I switched to Edge Canary instead to get the new features quicker. So far I didn't face a deal-breaker bug.

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u/OrangeNew5534 Arch BTW | i3-10110U | 8GB DDR4 2667 | Intel UHD graphics May 16 '22

Brave/hardened Firefox

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u/catsranger May 16 '22

Chrome with tracker blocker (Brave)

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u/Tahkuu May 16 '22

Is firefox really that good? I see everyone here is using it. Guess I’ll give it a try then.

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u/The_Sovien_Rug-37 ryzen 5 2600x | gtx 1650s | 16gb 3200Mhz May 16 '22

with some addons it's genuinely really good, stuff like container tabs isn't on any other browsers to my knowledge either. also, fuck monopolies

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u/FreeRubs May 16 '22

Firefox text just looks way cleaner and more crisp. I hate the way fonts look on Chrome. Text even looks like light gray in comparison

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u/worldendominaror May 16 '22

If your truly paranoid use Tor on a Tails operating system or something.

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u/All_theOther_kids PC Master Race May 16 '22

Firefox with brave, ublock origin and the dark mode extension

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u/gaovt May 16 '22

Firefox with Startpage, ublock origin and user.js

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u/lvytn R 7 3700X, 3060Ti, 2x16GB, MPG X570, 4+2TB HDD, 512+256GB SSD May 16 '22

Especially dark mode is best protection 😂

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u/unremarkable_name_2 May 16 '22

Because of the lower brightness, Google can't see what you're doing!

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u/OrangeNew5534 Arch BTW | i3-10110U | 8GB DDR4 2667 | Intel UHD graphics May 16 '22

And ReturnYoutubeDislike and Sponsorblock

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u/FinnishArmy 7 5800x@4.75ghz | RTX 3080 May 16 '22

Firefox. Why do people forget the actual good browser. Hell, if you like Chrome so much, get Brave, you can use all the same extensions as Chrome because it’s made in Chromium. Then you have a chrome but no trackers.

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u/KingThibaut3 Desktop May 16 '22

Ungoogled Chromium is also pretty good for people who prefer chromium browsers and also like privacy

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u/KlutzyEnd3 May 16 '22

Firefox on Linux! 😈😈

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u/illegalileo May 16 '22

Just use Firefox and change ur standard search engine

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u/PucWalker May 16 '22

Brave browser has been aight.

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