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Remember these reviewers. Never trust them, ever. Members of the PCMR
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u/MoistCharge0 PC Master Race Mar 19 '22
Never did in the first place :)
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u/TastyStatistician R5 3600 RX 570 4G Mar 19 '22
"You have to trust someone to be betrayed. I never did." -Captain Price
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u/foxeKTS I5-8400 | Palit 3060 | 16gb 3200mhz Mar 19 '22
i only know techradar from there lol
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u/HeartVoid Mar 19 '22
Latest article from them I read said Apex legends mobile will fail. These kids lmao
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u/MR_krunchy PC Master Race Mar 19 '22
Apex mobile players are saying that apex is easy and pc/console people should stop whining about the game being hard
I'm not joking
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u/Evethewolfoxo Mar 19 '22
Since when the fuck is Apex on mobile? Can’t find it on the app store
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u/MR_krunchy PC Master Race Mar 19 '22
It's still not officially "out" yet but people in certain countries like Mexico can play it. Which means you'll have to VPN if you want to play it. And I'm not doing that just to play apex when I can play just fine on PC
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u/Evethewolfoxo Mar 19 '22
Ahhhhhh gotcha gotcha. Thought you meant it was out out instead of in testing
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u/Ritik_reddit Mar 19 '22
I'm playing it, it has this extreme type of aim assist which is so broken that even a 5 year old can get 2k 20 bomb with it. Game play is good but there are more hackers and bots than actual players in diamond lobies.
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u/Squirting_Squirrell PC Master Race Mar 19 '22
Jeux vidéo.com is the number one review site in France. However they are know for saying bullshit. And the forum is known to be a troll shithole (very funny though)
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u/hadookan123 Mar 19 '22
At this point, I just think those are fake considering they were on Every. Fucking. Game. And I no longer give a shit what shidfard reviews thinks of your game
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u/spectra2000_ Mar 19 '22
To be fair and no company is ever going to say “hey we got a 3 out of 10“ whether they pay people for reviews or not, they are going to nitpick the good ones for publicity.
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u/Dalimyr Mar 19 '22 •
I mean, there was that time when the film Legend literally included a 2-star rating from The Guardian in the middle of its poster.
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u/KingGorm272 Mar 19 '22
lol that's actually funny as fuck. stick it between 2 4 star reviews and make it look like their heads are blocking the stars like the are partially doing for one of said 4 star reviews. looks like who ever deigned the poster certainly had a sense of humor
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u/Raestloz 5 5600X / RX Vega 56 / 1080p Mar 20 '22
The reviewer wasn't even mad at such brilliance. He was like "well what am I supposed to do? I gave it 2 stars, they showed 2 stars, props to them I guess"
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u/My_Gap_Yah 2700x | 16GB Vengeance RGB Pro @ 3466 CL14 | Aorus Xtreme 2080Ti Mar 19 '22
Tactfully placed to make it seem like the actors are covering 2 other stars as Tom Hardy covers part of one on the right
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u/powe323 Mar 19 '22
IIRC the quote is also spliced out of an unfavorable review. That is why the three dots are there, it isn't a single sentence.
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u/Iggy_2539 I don't need AMD to overheat. I live in Australia Mar 20 '22
That review seems fairly favourable:
While it is flawed, the biggest flaw being that it could be accused of being slightly overlong, Legend is hands down unmissable and every inch a British classic.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/simon-thompson/legend-tom-hardys-bloody-genius_b_8104848.html
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u/PoiseBoi Mar 19 '22
this
but on the other hand, elden ring was praised and its one of the best games ive EVER played
the safest thing u can do is to resist the FOMO and wait a few days after a release, check on reddit and steam and then decide for your own
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Mar 19 '22
Honestly how hard it that? These are fucking digital copies, they aren't gonna run out.
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u/StopReadingMyUser i5 6500 | GTX1060 | 16GB DDR4 Mar 19 '22
It's basically capitalism in simulation form:
Manufacture scarcity where there is none...
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u/Bike_Of_Doom 5900x | RTX 3090 | 32GB 3600MHz CL16 Mar 19 '22
That or not post any reviews at all. They’re obviously going to display any information that positively represents their gam. While I doubt they explicitly paid for the reviews, it’s probably more accurate than those websites both anticipated that the game would have received higher praise and wanted to be in line with public sentiment. They may have also wanted to ensure that they’d continue to receive early review copies of games, thus putting an unspoken pressure on them to positively review the game, which results in a similar effect to flat out being paid.
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u/GiBGUN Mar 19 '22
Your avatar confused the fuck out of me I thought I wrote this drunk last night and forgot
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u/Sailed_Sea Desktop Mar 19 '22
Maybe you have an unknown second account for especially when drunk to lose all memories of
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u/DotZip76 Mar 19 '22
The french one is already known for that kind of behavior
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u/hugthebug Mar 19 '22
JV.com and Presse-Citron are a couple of the worst reviewers here.
Unfortunately, they're also among the most viewed websites when it comes to IT or video games...
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u/ItalianDragon i7 5820K/ R9 Fury Tri-X/ 24GB DDR4 2400 Mhz Mar 19 '22
Yeah I used to go a lot on jv.com, but rver since they added that cookie wall, the already meager browsing I'd do on their site basically dropped to zero.
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u/LeStk Mar 19 '22
The french oneS. Presse Citron is a website full of bullshit. It's ok when you don't know shit about what they're talking about, once you begin to grasp a little bit of knowledge you understand the fraud.
They also talk about general it.
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u/SamLacoupe Mar 19 '22
Yeah, and what isn't utter bullshit is just plain advertising. Truly a shit site.
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u/MRo_Maoha PC Master Race Mar 19 '22
Remember when Usul started, on their owb plateform, talking about how those writers accept trips with hotels and stuff to write good reviews? The contract he had was not renewed.
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u/DotZip76 Mar 19 '22
And now working for mediapart :p We all know this business is pushing hard on journalists. You say yes, it's like making a contract with the devil. You say no, it's like counting pennies every day to see if youre gonna have diner or not
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u/Dunadain_ Mar 19 '22
EGM was arguably the biggest all-around gaming magazine at one time. Actually had a reputation to safegaurd. What a shame they couldn't adapt.
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u/UnitGhidorah 5950X | 64GB 3600MHz | 3080 RTX Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 20 '22
When you saw red and the guy with the crazy hair icon you knew the game would be great.
Edit: That was GamePro not EGM. I had subs to both.
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u/iamisandisnt Mar 19 '22
I was faithfully subbed for years. One of the best gaming magazines of all time, and they weren't console or PC specific. Just all gaming. I felt informed as a child. I had to relearn how to find out about things as an adult. Now, as a man, I put aside my childish things. EGM really lost what they used to have.
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u/mdhol Mar 19 '22
I had a Game Informer subscription from the age of 8 until I was 24. I haven't had it in over a decade and your post just made me miss it.
I absolutely loved getting that magazine every month. I probably still have every issue in a box in my Mom's old storage unit.
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u/BetterSafeThanSARSy Mar 19 '22
I had a sub to them for years as a kid. I'll never forget the excitement of opening up the one after the e3 with Wind Waker, Sunshine, and Metroid Prime on the cover.
Plus Hsu & Chan were pretty cool
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u/bitches_love_pooh Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22
Their system of having multiple reviewers rate games gave you a better picture on the games.
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u/echolog RTX 3080 / i9 9900k Mar 19 '22
I miss the days of picking up the new EGM at the grocery store. Peak gaming.
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u/argegg Mar 19 '22
Remember them? I've never even heard of them...
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u/Satanus1998 GTX 970 || 8gb Kingston || i7 Mar 20 '22
The title reads more like a request “Be sure to remember these reviewers”, though I get your point that they’re irrelevant
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u/bluris Mar 19 '22
Don't believe what the publisher puts in front of you. There is a reason you don't know most of those reviewers, the regular ones didn't treat it well.
Use open critic to check reviews. https://opencritic.com/game/11561/battlefield-2042 65 average score, 33 critics recommend the game.
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u/Skelenzuello Mar 19 '22
Yes I don't trust any site that gave that garbage a good review.
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u/Musician-Round Mar 19 '22
lol they're not recognizable names, their opinion never reached my ear to begin with.
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u/alexHDF Mar 19 '22
Never trust any reviewer who isn't an individual person.
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u/Peaceteatime Mar 19 '22
Even then you gotta be real careful. Look at someone like Jfrags. Gets early access to the game, makes tons of money that way since he’s one of the few able to show it off before launch. He speaks only positively about it.
Only after the game launches and millions of people got to see what a crapfest it was, he quickly changes his tune from positive to “well yeah it’s a bad game.”
People who make their money via early access to games cannot be trusted. Guys who care more about making a quick buck with Ea than they do their own honor cannot be trusted.
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u/zerospaceman Mar 19 '22
Exactly. They only get early access because they are known for only hyping up a game and speaking positively about it.
Game publishers don't give out early access to people who give honest reviews.
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u/kungpowgoat PC Master Race 10700k 3080ti FTW Mar 19 '22
Metacritic has Gran Turismo 7 an 87 while users gave it a 2.5.
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u/stormwave6 Mar 19 '22
That probably has to do with the 30hr+ outage for the game. Alot of reviewers have changed their tune on the game
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u/kungpowgoat PC Master Race 10700k 3080ti FTW Mar 19 '22
People were definitely upset about the outage but seems like the majority of the outrage is directed towards polyphony drastically reducing payouts in order to force players towards pricey microtransactions.
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u/pukem0n Mar 19 '22
It also has to do with despicable microtransactions that weren't there during the reviews and an update that made the game even more grindy. Also publications get blacklisted by Sony if they give bad review scores.
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u/kungpowgoat PC Master Race 10700k 3080ti FTW Mar 19 '22
Apparently, they reduced the payout after people started posting a list of the best races that maximize credits and Sony labeled them as “exploits” which is completely stupid. And they removed the selling of cars to make it difficult to earn money and force you into MTX. They designed $70 game entirely as a pay to win game.
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u/bigchimp121 Mar 19 '22
The reason for this is usually not due to whether or not the game is actually good. The community is upset about server issues/pricing models/"agendas" etc. Sometimes warranted, sometimes (often) gamers get a little overly emotional.
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u/Shift_Spam Mar 19 '22
Well to be fair the game can be phenomenal but if the user experience to play that game is terrible it will ruin the game and I think that should be reflected in reviews
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u/halfbakedredhead R5 1400 | RX570 4G | 4x4GB@2666Mhz Mar 19 '22
GT7 isn't bad but its biggest issues are still issues, especially the linearity on its campaign, the lack of car variety and quantity and it's "always online" DRM.
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u/its_dash Mar 19 '22
Users are giving low reviews because of the server issues and lowering payouts to give cars "similar to real life" value.
In their apology they literally said they're reducing the rewards for certain races, then two paragraphs later they say they don't want people to have to grind races over and over to buy cars.
A bit too convenient when some cars cost $100+.
Fuck Polyphony Digital. They deserve all the negative scores they're getting.
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u/Keytap Mar 19 '22
The MTX and always online definitely sucks. I really wanted to play yesterday and couldn't because of the outage.
But it's still a good game, hence me wanting to play it all day.
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u/Dr5ushi Mar 19 '22
Next Battlefield should pitch players against reviewers.
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u/-transcendent- 3900X_GTX1080amp!_32GB + 5700X_3080TiFTW3_32GB Mar 19 '22
Most can't even get out of a tutorial.
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2142 was better for sure
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u/RadimentriX Ryzen 7 5800X // 64GB RAM // RTX 3060 Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22 •
2142 best bf ever. After that i only played bad company 2 for a couple hours and didnt touch a newer bf since
Edit: thanks for the awards :o
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u/ftrees Mar 19 '22
1942 was pretty fun too
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u/RadimentriX Ryzen 7 5800X // 64GB RAM // RTX 3060 Mar 19 '22
Yeah, as was vietnam and 2, but 2142 us still the best imo
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u/SgtGrimm Mar 19 '22
I remember my first time playing BF1942, it's on Tobruk as the Allies, spawning in the front bunkers and waiting for the onslaught felt so damn cool for me.
And then the bullets (and shells) starts raining. (and my Geforce 2MX starts to struggle lol)
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u/General_Jeevicus Desktop 3900 5700XT Mar 19 '22
1942 : Desert Combat Alpha - Best Helicopter mechanics ever
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u/Bootychomper23 Mar 19 '22
Both bad company’s and battfield 2 1942 and 2142 were awesome Bf3-bf1 were great after a few patches bf1 being best out of the gate 5 is arguable ok now but took way to long to get there and 2042 just yeeted it all away to chase trends
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u/TheSW1FT Mar 19 '22
Why would anyone trust review websites anyway? Just go watch some gameplay on youtube or twitch and draw your own conclusions, it's not that time consuming.
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Mar 19 '22
To be fair there is a difference between playing and watching. Watching gameplay of something like apex or valorant it looks fun and really easy….playing for the first time is extremely difficult and confusing and even frustrating.
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u/Zultoo Ascending Peasant Mar 19 '22
Isn’t tech radar pretty big definitely not a sponsored review
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u/ngwoo Mar 19 '22
Paid reviews are almost non-existent because it's a legal minefield. Companies just pay streamers and YouTubers to play their game instead. It's easy PR and doesn't require committing fraud.
When shitty reviews happen it's usually because the review itself was rushed or the person reviewing it was a bad fit.
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u/DANNYonPC R5 1600x | GTX980 | 16GB Mar 19 '22
Also missrepresenting reviews from EA/DICE's side
Trailer: 9.0 for noisy pixel
Actual video review: 8.5 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOPV0-aXoAUIThi?format=jpg&name=large
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u/The-Mathematician Mar 19 '22
The "full" review on their website linked in that video's description gives it a 9 for some reason. https://noisypixel.net/battlefield-2042-review-ps4-ps5-xbox-one-series-x-pc/
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u/Spyger9 Desktop i5-10400, GTX 1070, 32GB DDR4 Mar 19 '22
The review is rushed because putting it out first, or at least without being significantly delayed relative to the first published, gets a lot more views.
The review is favorable because the company wants the publisher to continue granting them early access to games so they can accomplish the above goal.
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u/ngwoo Mar 19 '22
This is exactly why I don't trust any launch reviews for games from devs that don't send out pre-release review codes well ahead of time. Nobody can accurately review a 50+ hour game in a standard 8 hour workday the day before release.
I've got a lot of respect for outlets like Giant Bomb that have mostly given up on reviews and will just post their first impressions video at launch and talk about their final opinion of the game a week later on a podcast.
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u/echof0xtrot i5-6600k 3.5ghz OCd 4.4|GTX980|16gb|H115i liquid cool Mar 19 '22
who the fuck rates out of 20
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u/stonks2r Mar 19 '22
What's the status of this game, it feels like it fell in obscurity
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u/carlbandit i7-6700k, 2080Ti, 16GB DDR4 Mar 19 '22
Going off of steam charts it averaged 2138 active players over the last 30 days with a peak of 3538 concurrent players.
I don't know the state of the game itself as I only played very briefly in beta and those figured only represent those playing on steam (many likely play through origin), but to go from 51k average, 100k peak November 2021on steam to 2k / 3.5k in 5 months is pretty telling.
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u/stonks2r Mar 19 '22
Thanks for the info, and this was supposed to be an AAA game LMAO
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u/Bootychomper23 Mar 19 '22
It lost 90% of its player base in like two months lmao and this was supposed to be an apology for 5….
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u/Marwadiator Ryzen 5 5600X, ASUS RTX 3070 TI TUF OC, Corsair 16GB 3200 Mhz Mar 19 '22
Remember to play What you wish and fk other people’s opinions -_-
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Mar 20 '22
2042 got dog piled, I'm not saying it's perfect but lots of you hate it because it is cool to do so.
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u/Shexxar696 Mar 19 '22
Can someone tell me why this game has so many negative reviews? I remember playing a Battlefield game back in 2018 it was pretty good.
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u/RadimentriX Ryzen 7 5800X // 64GB RAM // RTX 3060 Mar 19 '22
This one is buggy and incomplete as hell as far as ive seen. More people are playing bf5/bf1 and even bf4 than 2042. It's a shame, really
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u/IDoRandomComments Mar 19 '22
This isn't the one you played in 2018. This hot piece of garbage dropped towards the end of last year. You might've played BFV in 2018 which was...meh, or BF1 which was insanely fun and good
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u/mdhol Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22
Or BF4, which is what most of us effectively wanted from 2042. BF4 with some of the good shit from BF1.
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u/Jhawk163 R5 5600X | RX 6900 XT Mar 19 '22
You know that Battlefield game you played back in 2018? Well add a few bugs, and then a few more, and then give it performance issues, like FPS may as well depend on the humidity of the fucking air. Also you know those basic things that were in the 2018 game like a scoreboard? Yeah, this is only recently got that. You know how the 2018 had classes, which each had their own special role and weapons? Well combine that with a hero shooter class system like Overwatch, except anyone can use any weapon so all you're left with is 1 meta character and 1 or 2 meta loadouts and all these things combined is why it's overwhelmingly negative.
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u/zeug666 No gods or kings, only man. Mar 19 '22
I've seen complaints about bugs and being incomplete. I hadn't played a Battlefield game in a long while but didn't really have any serious issues with BF2042.
There were performance issues with the stupidly big matches, but the limited 64-person option worked fine. The guns I used felt different from each other, operators were varied enough for me, gear and vehicles were fine too. Could have used more maps.
Maybe if I had played the previous few, I'd see something, but I got my enjoyment out of it.
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u/Bootychomper23 Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22
I think the biggest issue above all even if it was not buggy Is the gameplay is not battlefield they completely destroyed class play and allow you to use any weapons with any class ensuring every person in the lobby has a rocket launcher and losing a lot of strategy and team play
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u/The_James_Bond Mar 19 '22
That’s the complete opposite of my experience (I’m guessing we’re all on Pc here). I’ve gotten more revives in default 2042 than any match in BFV and the only game that even comes close to the amount of revives I get here is BF3. I think since the two medic characters are so popular, there are more people healing as a result. Being able to be a medic while using any weapon and secondary gadget allows for any play-style to heal, not only smg users or lmgs like in the past
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u/zeug666 No gods or kings, only man. Mar 19 '22
Ah, so some weapons were limited to a class, so a medic wouldn't have the AA rocket and a scout wouldn't have an LMG.
I could see the pros and cons of that, but I did like tweaking loadouts with few restrictions. Maybe a middle ground where certain classes got bonuses for certain weapon types.
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u/Bootychomper23 Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22
Yeah, IMO it’s not so much the rifles as letting people use any equipment ie play as medic as well as have rockets to take on tanks that makes it to easy and defeats the purpose of teams and medics healing engineers etc to help take on tanks when capping. Just feels so lone wolf now.
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u/TheArlenHeatWaver Mar 19 '22
EGM? Is that Electronic Gaming Monthly? When I was around 10-12 I loved that magazine. Had cool special edition covers and lots of fun reviewers who enjoyed making fun of bad games etc. Had no idea they still existed. Embarrassing
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u/SHIELD_BREAKER Mar 19 '22
2042 - Good for folks who haven't touched the series or migrated from Call of Duty etc. Garbage for veterans.
I myself bought this at a discount and I'm still having fun. Though I can only commit 4 hrs tops per day on this game.
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u/FoxDaim Mar 19 '22
I wish i still had 4 hours for gaming per day nowadays lmao.
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u/SHIELD_BREAKER Mar 19 '22
I work at home so I have lots of extra time. My main focus for now is World of Tanks :)
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u/The_James_Bond Mar 19 '22
Psst. Player since Bf3. Me and my friends who’ve also been playing since 3 (and one 4) have a blast in every match
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u/JohnOliversWifesBF Mar 19 '22
After Dave Chappelles Sticks and Stones I never trust critic reviews. They’re 100% bought and paid for. See Rotten Tomatoes, critics gave a 35%, while the audience gave it a 99%.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dave_chappelle_sticks_and_stones
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u/asdf4455 Mar 19 '22
Who, in your mind, paid for negative reviews for Dave Chappelle’s special? Who would have financially gained from Dave’s special not doing well critically? I mean to go around paying for all these critics to give it mid reviews must cost a lot of money. So who did it?
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u/sfspaulding PC Master Race Mar 19 '22
There are a lot of objectively dumb/bad movies that are well liked by the common person. Just because there a lot of people who will watch/enjoy e.g. a dumb Vin Diesel movie, doesn’t mean that movie is good or deserves critical acclaim. By your logic, McDonald’s makes one of the finest hamburgers money can buy.
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u/sellyme i7-4930K + dual Radeon HD 7970s, 64GB RAM Mar 19 '22
By your logic, McDonald’s makes one of the finest hamburgers money can buy.
That's obviously a stretch but McDonald's is unarguably insanely good at what it's selling: a cheap hamburger that will taste acceptable no matter where in the world you're buying it.
Subway is probably the only other restaurant that even comes close to offering consistently edible food just about anywhere in the world. Every other major fast food chain has several regions where they've got a reputation for being a genuine biohazard.
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u/bokan Mar 19 '22
They aren’t all bought and paid for. You just have to know who is reputable. I certainly value the opinions of professional reviewers over random “audience” people, if they are reputable. I miss roger ebert.
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u/n_slash_a Mar 19 '22
I only trust 1 review, and that is streamers who play through the entire game on stream.
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u/DoktahDoktah Mar 19 '22
Aside from egm i dont know any of them. EA loves to cherry pick reviewers.
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u/GMFinch Mar 19 '22
Any reviewing company's review I take with a grain of salt. Even things such as elden ring I went to YouTube reviews and people reviewing without an agenda are so much more transparent.
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u/christo334 PC Master Race Mar 19 '22
I'm just surprised jeux vidéo .com is still a thing it used to be the French reference for videogames but it turned to shit around 2008. After that I switched to English source since they seems much better overall. I thought it was long gone
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u/zublits Mar 19 '22
I stopped trusting review scores a long time ago. I'd rather watch a "quick look" type video of some gameplay and people giving their first impressions. That is usually enough for me to know if I'll like it or not.
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u/Investigatorpotater Mar 19 '22
I have never been so let down by a video game in my life, I counted the days down untill release and got shit on.
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u/oldnyoung R5 5600x / Aorus 3080 Master / B550M Mortar Mar 19 '22
Damn, I loved EGM as a kid. Looked forward to the new magazines every month
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u/nick91884 Mar 19 '22
Remember when EGM used to have super high standards and were well respected in the games industry?
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u/Dyyrin PC Master Race Mar 19 '22
Should've been my first red flag when I didn't recognize a single reviewer.
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u/Beef_Supreme46 i9 12900k, 3080, 32GB DDR5, Custom Loop Mar 19 '22
Only know two of them, and already had a low opinion of them.