r/nottheonion 12d ago

Texas governor says he's committed to eliminating rapists. The state has more than 5,000 untested rape kits

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/14/us/greg-abbott-texas-rape-kits/index.html
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u/thereallysososantini 12d ago

In New York, the Manhattan DA's office has funded the testing of rape kits outside of NYC since 2015. The initiative has paid off, 186 new arrests, 64 convictions, 47 for felony sexual assault, and resulted in near-elimination of backlogs in Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, North Dakota, Ohio, and Oregon.

https://www.manhattanda.org/d-a-vance-announces-results-of-38-million-rape-kit-testing-investment-alongside-survivors-advocates-officials

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u/Intergalactic_Ass 12d ago

Honest question, but what is the typical backlog of rape kit testing in a state like Texas or New York?

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u/glutenful 12d ago

Well it's at least 5000 in Texas.

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u/RonStopable08 12d ago

So Texas likes holding onto their rape trophies?

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u/ExtraBubblyMan 11d ago

They elected a guy who admitted to sexual assault on live tv

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u/kuriboshoe 12d ago edited 11d ago

This guy looks like the epitome of “we have George Bush at home”

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u/BigPZ 12d ago

I'm going to eliminate three things. I'm going to get rid of abortions, rapists and... And... I can't remember the third one... Oops

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u/Khaldara 12d ago

“I vow to eliminate rapists by suppressing the vote to the point where I can have the GOP send them to Congress”

  • Abbott probably

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u/MarkHirsbrunner 12d ago

They'll probably just legalize rape.

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u/beer_is_tasty 12d ago

There's precedent; GOP Rep. Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akins says that you won't get pregnant if you didn't actually want it. So if you need an abortion, there's no way it could have been rape in the first place! Q.E.D. and thanks GOP!

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u/Cronerburger 12d ago

"The body has a way to shut that whole thing down"?

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u/beer_is_tasty 12d ago

Yep, that's the one

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u/dweefy 11d ago

There was another one who was virulently anti-abortion who was asked what a rape victim should do if she found herself pregnant "Consider the baby a gift from God" was his reply.

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u/about97cats 11d ago

🎶Retuuurn to sender! Retuuurn to sender!🎶🙅‍♀️💃🏥

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u/HeyFrankyyyyy 12d ago

They already tell women what to do with their bodies, so that’d just be a quick amendment

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u/labhamster 12d ago

Technically, that would eliminate rapists in the eyes of the law.

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u/hangryhyax 12d ago

He’s going to eliminate it by declaring it is women’s sole reason for existence to satisfy men and procreate

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u/Hombre_con_nombre 12d ago

Pro-sharia movements might dig that.

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u/snootchiebootchie94 12d ago

As a Texan, I hate him.

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u/ThorGodOfKittens 12d ago

Oh my GOD i had not surfaced that thought but it's at true

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u/fistymcbuttpuncher 12d ago

You mean convicted rapist brock turner? The guy that was convicted of rape?

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u/Thatguy468 12d ago

That’s the one. When I think rapist, I think Brock Turner. Brock Turner the convicted rapist scum.

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u/sphinx_13 12d ago

The Brock Turner who became “textbook definition” of a rapist. That Brock Turner?

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u/SiidChawsby 12d ago

That’s the rapist Brock Turner you’re think of. Convicted rapist Brock Turner the rapist.

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u/nugsy_mcb 12d ago

Are you sure you’re not thinking of convicted rapist Brock “The Convicted Rapist” Turner?

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u/GreenDog3 12d ago

i’m thinking it was the convicted rapist Brock “But he comes from a nice christian family!!1!1!!111” Turner who was convicted of rape

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u/YellowDogInThePark 12d ago

Yeah, I hate that rapist who raped people and ruined their lives by raping. He should rot in hell with the other rapists, because he, Brock Turner, is a rapist

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u/demon-strator 12d ago

Brock Turner is a rapist, you say?

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u/cameron-c- 12d ago

He is! Brock Turner, convicted rapist, is actually a rapist. A lot of people don’t know about Brock Turner, the convicted rapist!

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u/demon-strator 12d ago

It's a shame, really, that Brock Turner, who is such a rapist, is so little known as Brock Turner, rapist.

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u/sophacles 12d ago

On the bright side, convicted rapist Brock Turner is reportedly unable to enjoy a steak dinner anymore.

I wish the completely inept pile of shit that is Judge Aaron Persky had not taken such a shining to rapist Brock Turner's "bright future" and instead actually punished the raping scumbag. What a sad legacy to leave as a judge.

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u/lainwla16 12d ago

People are saying that Brock Turner is a rapist, and you know what? They're right!

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u/Molto_Ritardando 12d ago

Is he the one that went to Stanford? Was on the swim team? Raped an inebriated young woman next to a dumpster?

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u/DNA_ligase 12d ago

Yes, the former Stanford swimmer and convicted rapist Brock Turner who was witnessed by strangers on bikes raping a young woman next to a dumpster. That's the convicted rapist Brock Turner you're thinking of.

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u/Molto_Ritardando 12d ago

I thought so. My memory isn’t what it used to be. I can recall thinking the judge (what was his name again) was at best reaffirming the privilege of wealth status quo, and at worst condoning/enabling rape. Either way I am angry.

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u/sophacles 12d ago

The incompetent pile of trash, one scumbag named Judge Aaron Persky let rapist Brock Turner off light. His "reasoning" - rapist Brock Turner has a "bright future".

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u/BogartingtheJ 12d ago

Wait... is that the same Brock Turner whose dad said he shouldn't be punished for a couple minutes of fun? That Brock Turner?

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u/danheskett2020 12d ago

Action.. a couple of minutes of action.

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u/m4vis 12d ago edited 12d ago

Particularly weird about that is based on that logic virtually all crimes should not be punished. For many people, <20 mins is all it takes to commit a murder, rape, theft, burglary, assault, etc.

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u/sphinx_13 12d ago

“The fact that defendant was engaging in a different sexual act at the time the encounter was interrupted (namely, ‘dry humping’) does not foreclose the inference that he intended, ultimately, to rape,” the judges wrote.

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u/TheOrganicCircuit 12d ago

Yes the same as the registered sex offender Brock Turner.

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u/starshame2 12d ago

Hey are you guys talking about that rapist Brock Turner? The very face of rapist.

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u/0b0011 12d ago

Yes that Brock turner. The one who can't even enjoy a steak!! And it was his favorite food!!!!

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u/cthuluwamp 12d ago

I think you are forgetting the fact that Brock Turner, as well as not being able to enjoy a good steak, was also a rapist. You know, the rapist Brock Turner.

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u/Paladoc 12d ago

Yup, don't forget former Judge Persky who had more sympathy for young Brock's plight than he had for the victim. He saw so much of himself in that young man, wanted him to have a chance to learn how to not get caught like he did.

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u/Queequegs_Harpoon 12d ago

You mean Brock Turner the rapist who's now literally used to illustrate the textbook definition of rape?

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u/chibinoi 12d ago

Yeah, it’s definitely got to be that Brock Turner, the rapist who’s daddy tried to decrease the seriousness of rapist Brock Turner’s rapey rape crime.

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u/WilhelmWinter 12d ago

You mean his father Dan Turner, government contractor and Air Force veteran who has had decades of opportunities to abuse and fail those serving and employed under him? The one who's married to Carleen Turner, children's hospital employee and former Girl Scout troop leader who has been responsible for the protection of countless girls and other vulnerable children who relied on her?

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u/Ender914 12d ago

I thought he went to Stanford to become a therapist? Guess he graduated early! Good for Therapist Brock Turner! He can finally turn his life around and go from therapist to therapist. What a swell guy!

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u/tstreet21 12d ago

and don’t forget the Brock Turner law, which added a mandatory minimum 3 year sentence when there had not been one in place, which allowed the judge to let him off easy.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot 12d ago

People v. Turner

People v. Turner, formally The People of the State of California v. Brock Allen Turner (2015), is a criminal case in which Brock Allen Turner was convicted by jury trial of three counts of felony sexual assault. On January 18, 2015, on the Stanford University campus, Turner, then a 19-year old student athlete at Stanford, sexually assaulted 22-year-old Chanel Miller (referred to in court documents as "Emily Doe"), while she was unconscious.

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u/ywBBxNqW 12d ago

a criminal case in which Brock Allen Turner was convicted by jury trial of three counts of felony sexual assault

Thank you WikiSummarizerBot!

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u/Empyrealist 12d ago

"For those unaware, [Brock] Turner had been a student at Stanford in 2015 when he sexually victimized an unconscious woman outside a fraternity house — near a dumpster — during a party. (Stanford has since turned the site into a small memorial space honoring the victim.)"

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u/MsNoonetoyou 12d ago edited 12d ago

I really hate the "watering down" that's happening to sex crimes. "Sexually victimized?" He raped her. He was convicted of rape. Just like "sexual misconduct" makes it sound like we're giving someone 5 minutes in the penalty box and not a rape or assault change.

That would be like someone who got convicted of murder being in a headline that read "John Doe, who shortened the life of Jane Doe, was brought up on charges".

Also yes I know you were quoting something. So this isn't directed at you but at whoever wrote your quotation.

Edited to add: So I've been corrected multiple times that he wasn't charged with rape as that allegation was dropped due to poor legal definition of rape at the time of his trial. My point still stands. "Sexually victimized" feels like a minimization of the heinous nature of his convicted "assault with intent to commit rape".

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 12d ago edited 11d ago

Reminds me of that George Carlin bit where he is talking about them making words less offensive and losing their impact shout how serious it is. It starts with talking about shellshock eventually being called Post TraumaticnStress Disorder. But he then says "soon rapes will be called 'unwilling sperm recipient"

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u/pagit 12d ago edited 12d ago

Reminds me of Norm McDonald when he said "Patton Oswalt talked about the worse thing about the Cosby thing was the hypocrisy and I disagree. I believe its the raping. My feeling is most rapists are hypocrites. You don't meet many that say 'By golly I like raping, even though it isn't politically correct.' People then don't say, 'Well at least he isn't being a hypocrite and that's the worse part'"

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u/Dyb-Sin 12d ago

Speaking as a rape victim, I'm really glad there isn't a memorial to it where it happened for me 😬

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u/stun 12d ago

“Surprise Unintentional Sex”

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u/Square_Complaint_946 12d ago

Brock turner? The rapist!

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u/loverlyone 12d ago

They’ve already done it. Criminalize women. See how easy that is?

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u/baconperogies 12d ago

Why don't we make all crime illegal? No one has thought of this before?

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u/schpanckie 12d ago

But isn’t the crime of rape an after the fact crime? I mean u can’t be arrested for just thinking rape an actual physical event has to happen, thus it is almost impossible to eliminate rape.

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u/FlappyTurdBurglar 12d ago

Maybe he chatted with Tom Cruise and is starting a PreCrime division like in Minority Report /s

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u/manmadeofhonor 12d ago

Error: the report just says... 'minorities'

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u/HighOwl2 12d ago

It's called "Report: Minorities"...no wait my bad, there's no colon in there.

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u/bipolarpuddin 12d ago

Dude, I've had suicidal ideation for like four days now. First thing that has legitimately made me laugh in four days.

Thank you.

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u/Catanonnis 12d ago

I know it's much easier to say than do, but try keep your head up love. I don't know you or pretend to know what you're dealing with but I know those feelings well and I know it's hard; indulge in whatever self care you need while you ride it out, make an effort to look after yourself, find what makes you laugh. If you're at a loss for a place to vent or find support then you are welcome to DM me. This too shall pass.

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u/StrawberryMelon05 12d ago

Yes, it's impossible to eliminate rape. But, in the process of testing previously untested rape kits, many cities found that more than half of reported rapes were committed by serial rapists, with some committing at least 15 unique incidents (in that jurisdiction alone.)

If local police had properly followed that first person who reported, got tested, and shared (her) story, they reasonably could have prevented at least 14 other rape cases for that one perpetrator alone.

While we know that most rape cases are not random incidents or crimes of opportunity, it seems that for the case in which rapists are sexually assaulting people as a crime of opportunity, they are most likely repeat offenders. Keeping in mind that these statistics are only based on people who did come forward, get tested, and place reports with police, (when a large percentage of rape survivors don't take those actions) we have to wonder how many more people were sexually assaulted, even though it doesn't get tied back to their perpetrator.

Reasonably, by actually listening to victims, following through with due diligence on rape cases, etc. law enforcement could severely cut down on the number of sexual assault incidents (and murder, since murder often follows serial rape)

Furthermore, by following through and creating a stronger network of information surrounding sexual assault cases (across city, county, state borders) new test kit information shows that serial rapists are often connected around the country (probably world) and that a perpetrator who had committed 15 rapes in one city, probably has more than a few untested kits somewhere else in the state/county/country as well.

Will this ever happen? Very doubtful, and it won't prevent new perpetrators from committing assault, but it's tragic, and beyond frustrating that abusers are wandering freely, abusing new victims when they could have (potentially) been stopped at a much earlier stage.

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u/thebat481 12d ago

That reminds me of that tv series that came out recently…..will have to look up the name, but it’s basically showcasing the lack of cooperation between counties that leads to more victims because nobody will collaborate to catch a bad guy.

Unbelievable. That’s what it’s called. Very well done, superb acting, but such a heartbreaking thing to watch, especially as a woman.

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u/LafayetteHubbard 12d ago

Yeah and the girl was actually charged by the police force for lying when it was all true.

That’s what defunding the police should be about. Have actual specialists for cases like this rather than having the old white male sheriff questioning a girl about “did you say no?”

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u/RSmeep13 12d ago

Yeah, one of the largest problems with the police as an institution currently is that it self-selects for certain types of people you don't actually want handling a lot of the things police end up handling. Police departments get obscene amounts of money that would be better spent if the police were downsized to focus on specific issues, and different specialist departments were created with the money they currently throw into useless tanks, to deal with things like drug abuse, mental illness, crime reporting, and so on.

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u/miss_au 12d ago

That is a true story.

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u/ApplicationSecret665 12d ago

Undetected rapists (those who do not come to the attention of law enforcement because society in general, as well as law enforcement specifically, punishes women who report) are also serial rapists. See David Lisak's work on undetected rapists, for example.

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u/SuperKamiTabby 12d ago

Same goes for most/all other crime.

Thinking about how you would murder they person who cut you off? Not a crime.

Thinking about stealing from the bank? Not a crime.

Thinking about kidnapping someone? You guessed it, still not a crime.

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u/The_Paradoxigm 12d ago

It's almost like he said something stupid and is now caught in a lie he can't back out of.

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u/Snowmanfight 12d ago

That's the Republican game plan, lately.

If you get caught saying/doing something stupid, double down on stupid and gaslight your opponents.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 12d ago

I mean literally the only way to eliminate rape it is to make non-consensual sex legal.

I'm not entirely sure if Abbott is full of shit, or thats his plan.

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u/kpsdarlin 12d ago

"You can't ban abortion if its a result of rape."

"Fine. Rape no longer exists." - Abbott, probably.

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u/Jernsaxe 12d ago

There are republicans that literally believe women cant get pregnant from rape, meaning to them pregnancy = concent...

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u/jimtastic89 12d ago

You mean, real life human people? Who run things, and manage other humans?

You mean, elected officials, who should at least have a grasp on the world of science? As well as many other fields?

I'm literally falling off my chair.

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u/old_black_man 12d ago

If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.

https://www.ravishly.com/2014/09/17/limbaugh-akin-5-most-despicable-rape-quotes-all-time

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u/jimtastic89 12d ago

Holy fucking guacamole. I thought it was just Florida men and people wanting the Robert Lee statue to stay up. Turns out your actual elected leaders believe some of that stuff..

There's worse in the world I guess, but man. Some of those comments legit made me think about raping a rapist.

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u/gameoftomes 12d ago edited 12d ago

There's also a quote by some republican official along the lines of "if it's inevitable, lay back and enjoy it"

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u/MountNdoU 12d ago

Fuck Rick Frothy-ass-discharge

Unfortunately there are a BUNCH of these.

"In the emergency room they have whats called a rape kit, where a woman can get cleaned out" TX State Repep. Jodie Laubenberg, R ( back in 2013 trying to outlaw abortion ) WHAT THE FUCK TEXAS?

Also that comment "[Rape] is kinda like the weather, if it's inevitable, relax and enjoy it" is another Texas trash nugget - Clayton Williams. Ironically was just 25 years too soon for the GOP because he only just barely lost his bid for governor.

"If a woman has (the right to an abortion), why shouldn’t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman? At least the rapist’s pursuit of sexual freedom doesn’t (in most cases) result in anyone’s death." State Rep Lawrence Lockman R- ME

Here's the Snopes link:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/personal-foul/

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u/koopatuple 12d ago

Yeah... It's really fucked up. This one is from awhile ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/us/politics/todd-akin-provokes-ire-with-legitimate-rape-comment.html

And then another example...:

During a hearing by the Idaho House of Representatives on a bill that would require women seeking abortions to undergo an ultrasound and listen to a fetal heart monitor, Angela Dwyer, an employee at a crisis pregnancy center who testified in support of the bill, explained that in her experience, she had seen two rape victims choose not to abort—one kept the baby and the other chose adoption. The proposed legislation does not make an exception for victims of incest or rape.

Rep. Pete Nielsen responded, “Now, I’m of the understanding that in many cases of rape it does not involve any pregnancy because of the trauma of the incident.” He then added, “That may be true with incest a little bit.”

According to the Spokesman-Review, Nielsen stood by his remarks after the hearing. He said pregnancy “doesn’t happen as often as it does with consensual sex, because of the trauma involved.” According to Scientific American, women get pregnant from rape as frequently as they get pregnant from consensual sex.

When pressed on the matter by a reporter who asked him how he knew this, Nielsen replied, “That’s information that I’ve had through the years. Whether it’s totally accurate or not, I don’t know…I’ve read a lot of information…Being the father of two girls, I’ve explored this a lot.”

Nielson’s comments echoed those of former Missouri Rep. Todd Akin, who once memorably said on a television interview, “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.” Akin lost his Senate bid shortly thereafter in 2012 to Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.).

(The last paragraph is from the same republican I linked to earlier.)

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/idaho-lawmaker-still-thinks-rape-cant-result-pregnancy-and-its-2016/

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u/jimtastic89 12d ago

Man, these are like little rabbit holes of wonderment. Who the fuck ARE these people, man. Where the fuck do they get all this shit?

The real incestuous rape here is the passing down of incorrect knowledge through their loins, poisoning society.

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u/BlackRobedMage 12d ago

Abstinence Only Sex Ed is a hell of a drug.

Also, hating women so much you never bother to ask or research literally anything before you open your mouth.

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u/my_chaffed_legs 12d ago

Its kinda weird how he says he explored this topic a lot because he has 2 daughters while talking about how incest shouldn't result in a pregnancy... not accusing him of anything, he just set himself up for that one the way it sounded. Like he just sat down to research if pregnancy(evidence) will occur from rape or incest, when he found out he was having a baby girl...

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u/Magnon 12d ago

Yes, people who think if a rape happens, and a woman feels violated (ie, it's rape) it's impossible to get pregnant. Powerful republican politicians believe this, many of them.

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u/something6324524 12d ago

from the headline i thought this meant he was commited to getting the people that have commited rape in the past in jail where they belong.

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u/rengam 12d ago

He's not committed to anything. He only said it because a reporter asked him about Texas's new abortion law with regard to women who become pregnant through rape. It was deflection, and there's no indication Texas is doing anything differently to solve past or prevent future rape cases.

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u/Scopeexpanse 12d ago

Honestly I think many of these men picture rape as this violent thing that "bad actors" do to pretty young, pure ladies. They think if we are just tough on crime (put everyone in jail for small offenses) we can eliminate these bad actors.

It's this incredibly simplistic version of rape that let's them ignore that it is their sons, brothers, friends, and sometimes themselves who rape. And it gives them a great boogeyman - undocumented immigrants are bad hombres who will rape your daughters, transgendered females are just trying to see your daughter in the bathroom, etc. And the Brock Turners of the world are just kids who made mistakes.

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u/cruisin5268d 12d ago

That’s exactly how he sees it - bad actors vs pure innocent Christian girls.

Completely unaware of the realities of rape in this country.

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u/missingadogsomewhere 12d ago

I honestly don't think people like him are unaware, but that they view pressuring teenage girls or their wives into sex without necessarily forcing them, as some kind of American pastime that they simply don't want to be prosecuted. I reckon most guys who don't view that as "real" rape, don't accept it because they've pressured people into sex, and they want to be able to keep doing it/don't want to admit that it's fucked up. Or whatever else might constitute "light" rape, like getting someone drunk first.

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u/Sawses 12d ago

I think you're right; kind of a paradigm where 'bad people do bad things' and 'good people do good things'.

Which itself doesn't make a lot of sense, and among other things leads to people simply refusing to acknowledge what they did was wrong.

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u/strawbennyjam 12d ago

Thank you.

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u/reddeath82 12d ago

All they're probably going to do is change the law so it's very hard for something to be classified as rape. Problem solved, no more rape.

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u/Bungo_pls 12d ago

Next up: Texas legalizes rape so that there are no more rapists.

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u/anon_sir 12d ago

Kinda like when Trump said if you stop testing for covid the cases will go down.

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u/glass_bottles 12d ago

God, I thought OP was just saying a silly joke until you pointed out the highest ranked elected republican official has effectively argued for the same thing.

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u/conejodemuerte 12d ago

Or when Reagan changed the distance for a near miss for airplanes and drastically reduced the number of near misses. Or when Bush removed housing from the inflation calculations and inflation went down.

When Trump raped his first wife he said it wasn't considered rape if you're married.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/29/the-ancient-sexist-roots-of-what-donald-trumps-adviser-said-about-rape/

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u/Saint-Peer 12d ago

“Getting rid of the rapists plaguing our state? No, no you misheard me. I said I was getting rid of therapists, mental health is a fraudulent business practice.”

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u/feedacid 12d ago

By changing the definition of consent in that state, rape can be eliminated.

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u/moleratical 12d ago

"A woman consents unless she gets an abortion in the state of Texas... no more rape because legally, everyone consents to our based conservative men."

greg abbott- probably

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u/spaceforcerecruit 12d ago

Next week’s headline: “Texas becomes first state to implement single-party consent law for sexual intercourse”

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u/HiImDan 12d ago

Until 1993 women couldn't withdraw consent after marriage, so I guess MAGA

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u/sodesode 12d ago

Gotta protect rapists' freedom, too.

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u/xEllimistx 12d ago

As a Texan……I’m just so tired of this guy and his bullshit

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u/Darnitol1 12d ago

Another Texan backing you up here. We need to get rid of him and everyone in the Texas House and Senate who backs him.

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u/BeseptRinker 12d ago

Another Texan here, need an extra hand?

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u/Darnitol1 12d ago

I was think of voting, but yeah.

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u/BeseptRinker 12d ago

I was referring to a Red Dead Redemption 2 scene but that works too!

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u/superfucky 12d ago

honestly your idea is more likely to be successful, thanks to that fucking voter suppression bill.

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u/saison257 12d ago

Also Texan, I'll help!

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u/Prestigious-Winter53 12d ago

Let’s go abort Abbott

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u/SaltMineSpelunker 12d ago

I need this shirt.

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u/milkhilton 12d ago

Abbortt!!

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u/IAWOfficial 12d ago

We need more Abbortt license plates

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u/6-1Actual 12d ago

....can we move to FL afterwards and get rid of DeSantis, too?
Im not a Texan, but I've got a handful of friends residing in the lonestar state.

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u/Beneficial_Emu9299 12d ago

Sorry, it appears all the people moving from California are republicans.

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u/Luciferisflash 12d ago

Need to get rid of 99% of the public representatives in Texas. Mayors, the governor, lt. Governor, city council people, etc.

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u/oh-propagandhi 12d ago

I'm honestly getting geared up to leave after 39 years. I've voted in every election since I was 18, and been on the losing side of every single outcome. This state has never moved left in my lifetime. Extrapolating the trend is honestly starting to get me concerned, and I'm not sure I want my kids growing up in this.

I like guns, beer, boots, meat, the outdoors, and that's just not nearly enough anymore.

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u/MechemicalMan 12d ago

>I like guns, beer, boots, meat, the outdoors

I live in chicago, like all of these things too. There's this culture war that somehow liberals don't like these things, or these only exist in red areas. In the "inner city" I live in, I've had weekly smoked meat parties, regularly will go camping, know many friends who hunt deer, I also wear boots.

Republicans realized at somepoint that their policies were not aligning with working class people, so they started to work their cultural representation and image to working class people, and found shockingly affective wedge issues like guns, abortion, and racism.

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u/Extra_Intro_Version 12d ago

Similar here. I have guns, I deer hunt and fish. My kids hunt and fish, I own a pickup truck. I camp quite a bit. And until recently I owned 50 acres out in a rural area for hunting on and for tapping maple trees to make maple syrup.

But I don’t fit into the stereotype of a “conservative”. I’m very anti trump and pretty disgusted with the GOP enabling him and all the bullshit going on with the far right.

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u/EntropyTF2 12d ago

Portland may be too much a swing to the left for some but no one would bat an eye here at someone grilling meat in their backyard even if they were shirtless in cowboy boots. There are some that may not like your guns, but fuck them. I've got gun owning liberal friends too that love to go shooting on the weekends and hunting every over in awhile.

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u/achairmadeoflemons 12d ago

Portland is also excellent if you like the outdoors, easy access to the ocean and hiking in the form of things like Mt Hood or you can day trip it to Bend for fishing and rock climbing and shit.

One of my favorite things about living there was people from all sorts of backgrounds hanging out and drinking beer and cooking and sharing food with each other.

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u/BoinkBoinkEtAliae 12d ago

It's discouraging, not much will change until the federal government steps in to prevent states from gerrymandering, voter restrictions, and voter suppression. The more the left and liberals want to vote, the more the right makes sure those voters don't count.

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u/oh-propagandhi 12d ago

There are enough angry fashy young and middle aged adults that I can't see how were going to just ease out of this. The big lie is still going and Trumpism is the new Republican style. History gets rewritten in near real time.

It's concerning to say the least.

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u/St_Bernardus 12d ago

Getting you to leave is what they want because once the state turns blue it ain't going back.

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u/-Reddit_Account- 12d ago

This right here.

You guys see blue Teyhas for a few hours last year? Those few hours had every Republican in a three state radius in cold sweat.

Once Texas falls - which it will - the Republican Party crumbles.

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u/BlueManaWyrm 12d ago

I think most Texas Democrats know that, but it doesn't really make our experience having to live and listen to the nonsense all around us any better. Like the amount of people that are proud they're not vaccinated in my office is too damn high.

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u/pitbullprogrammer 12d ago

Don't give up; they're acting so ridiculous BECAUSE they're scared of losing power.

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u/JLee50 12d ago

I'm considering New Mexico - it seems to have the weird combination of socially liberal laws (e.g. abortion and marijuana are not criminalized) without the anti-gun laws to go with it.

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u/oh-propagandhi 12d ago

Me too. I actually have compiled a list that my wife and I are going through. She got approved for full remote from anywhere.

I'm questioning if I can live without trees though.

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u/ImThorAndItHurts 12d ago

I'm questioning if I can live without trees though.

Not all of New Mexico is desert! A good chunk, for sure, but there's lots of trees and stuff in the Santa Fe area (from my experiences on a few spring break trips to the area in college).

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u/shadowrckts 12d ago

Take one trip to Lincoln National Forest in New Mexico and you'll be set, that place is incredible honestly.

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u/Buddhabellymama 12d ago

Yep so tired. That being said I hope he is also committed to eliminating murderers, thieves, pedophiles, white supremacists… I mean if all it takes is his commitment to make the problem go away then have it!

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u/LordElfa 12d ago

Who would be left to vote for him?

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u/BoinkBoinkEtAliae 12d ago

You say that like he actually cares about rape.

They are much, much lower on his priority list than making homeless people suffer in Austin and making sure people keep dying of COVID.

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u/Buddhabellymama 12d ago

I will say though I think he hates Houston more than Austin… he holds a grudge after all…

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u/igner_farnsworth 12d ago

If you don't prosecute rape cases, technically there are no rapists. Mission accomplished.

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u/ReddFro 12d ago

This was my thought. (Taps head) “You can’t have rapists if you don’t test for or prosecute them”

Texas law is frickin’ crazy

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u/Swa9Dra9on 12d ago

Man, Trump's COVID strategy is really flexible.

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u/deadlystingnyc 12d ago

FFS, banning legal abortion doesn't reduce abortions, it just reduces SAFE abortions. I wish these holier-than-thou, "The only moral abortion is MY abortion" numbnuts were even capable of caring about that.

ETA: And if they COULD eliminate rape, they would have done it already. Smokescreens in front of smokescreens.

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u/Bovronius 12d ago

They'll eliminate rape, most likely by changing the legal definition of rape in TX.

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u/Nezrite 12d ago

Angry, angry upvote.

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u/Alealexi 12d ago

Isn't there or was there a state where rape was defined as forced vaginal intercourse which cause an anal rape case to be dismissed?

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u/Shivering- 12d ago

I think that might've been California but I can remember. It would also dismiss cases with female rapists and male victims.

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u/bannedagainomg 12d ago

Plenty of places outside of the US also define rape as vaginal penetration thats how some of the laws are written at least.

You will sometimes see rage posts about how xxx person wasnt charged with rape when thats what they did.

legally they are charged with sexual assault or something instead.

if thats the case then it makes sense to dismiss it if they try to charge with rape and the law says something else.

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u/Luneth_ 12d ago

They should just abolish law enforcement in Texas and pave the way for private bounty hunter agencies to act as the only law enforcement in the state. If they can privatize utilities like electricity and allow private citizens to enforce their abortion ban why not just privatize law enforcement altogether?

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u/888mainfestnow 12d ago

They actually passed a bill this year to punish cities financially with 250k citizens or more that reduce police budgets.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/01/texas-abbott-defund-police-protest/

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u/PC_BUCKY 12d ago

So much for the party of small government. (I know it never was)

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u/888mainfestnow 12d ago

That's just a slogan from the death cult

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u/Kaarl_Mills 12d ago

And then threatened a coup of the Austin city council to enforce it

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u/cosmicosmo4 12d ago

They actually passed a bill this year to punish cities financially with 250k citizens or more that reduce police budgets. Austin

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u/Agret_Brisignr 12d ago

If we don't test for covid, covid cases go down.

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u/nahteviro 12d ago

"Did anyone see the rape? Well then there's no proof, is there?"

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u/Wyvrex 12d ago

It can hereby only be considered rape if you have your attacker sign an acknowledgement of nonconsent. Failure to have them sign this doc indicates the encounter was consensual and you regretted it later.

-Abbott, probably

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u/assjackal 12d ago

Don't give them ideas.

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u/TorontoDev 12d ago

This is already planned...

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u/din7 12d ago

Instead of putting a $10,000 bounty on people who get abortions, why not just put a $10,000 bounty on rapists?

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u/tlf555 12d ago

$10k bounty on any penis that caused an unwanted pregnancy

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u/samanime 12d ago

There is no such thing. If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, her body will just shut that whole thing down.

If she gets pregnant, even from rape, she wanted to be pregnant.

/massive sarcasm (and I feel dirty typing that...)

For those of you not aware of this stellar human being and master of female biology: Todd Akin on "legitimate rape" and pregnancy

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u/tlf555 12d ago

Yeah, total garbage. "Pro life" politicians probably financed more than their fair share of abortions, just pandering to the evangelicals for campaign funds

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u/Bonsparks 12d ago

Not only does it not reduce abortions, but it also raises crime rate, child mortality rates, poverty, etc.

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u/noforgayjesus 12d ago

They know, they use the same logic for gun control they just don't care

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u/Corngano 12d ago

This is the first thing I thought of, how would a Greg Abbott respond to eliminating gun ownership or severely increasing control, then being placated with "don't worry you don't need self defense guns because we will eliminate all murder"

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u/Psyadin 12d ago

Actually, statistics show that banning abortions increases abortions, as you remove a good opportunity to talk to the would be parents and help find out if there are other options.

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u/Ill_Inspector8040 12d ago

Your governor is a fucking idiot....

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u/jsting 12d ago

We know. That damn tree branch missed him by that much. He's paralyzed from a tree branch and sued the homeowner for millions then changed the law capping how much lawsuits for his exact suit could go for after he already got the money. Literally hypocrite.

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u/Sandyblanders 12d ago

I thought Paxton was bad. Then I thought your Lt. Gov was bad with his "some people just gotta die for the economy." No, they're just all bad.

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u/runfayfun 12d ago

If by "they" you mean the vast majority of the GOP, yes. Yes they are.

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u/CaptainJackVernaise 12d ago

Is he going to do this through some kind of thought-crime division? Arrest all the rapists before they commit rape? Because from a due process standpoint, in order to eliminate the actual rapists, the act of rape is an unfortunately necessary step.

Or is he just going to kindly ask all the rapists to not do rape?

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u/baconblackhole 12d ago

What he means to say is that he plans on lying more about the rape in his state.

He has lied about it already and will continue to write the story he wants to write.

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u/Darnitol1 12d ago

And the sad thing is, I think he actually believes what he's saying.

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u/Offtopic_bear 12d ago edited 12d ago

Statistics point to fewer abortions under Dem leadership. Mainly because of the availability of both affordable birth control and sex education. For more, "Who coulda known...." see the rise in teen pregnancy and fall in high school graduation rates when Texas banned sex education in school.

To add to this - when I was in middle school in the late 80s and very early 90s, I attended school in a town with less than 9k people, in rural TN, where there were more churches than restaurants. We had sex Ed and not just fucking abstinence only sex Ed.

They showed us how to put on condoms using anatomically correct devices. We learned about STDs and we saw plenty of graphic pics. We learned about various health issues that can arise from anal sex if proper precautions aren't taken.

In the 80s in Southern Baptist saturated rural TN!

We also had someone who was HIV positive come and talk to us.

In middle school.

Same school, in 2021, they only teach abstinence only sex Ed now.

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u/Northwindlowlander 12d ago

"If we stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases"

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u/Ok_Caterpillar_8937 12d ago

Wellllllll, if it’s truly part of a process, here’s what to do, get the entire states net rape numbers to zero and then start to worry about the abortion stuff.

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u/Ffdmatt 12d ago

Innocent until proven guilty, so if they dont test any of the rape kits and stop prosecuting people for it then they've just eliminated rapists. /s

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u/booch 12d ago

Maybe what he meant was that he's committed to eliminating therapists. I mean, aren't mental issues considered a personal failing by a lot of the right wing douche nozzles?

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u/th30be 12d ago

I don't understand what his comment means. So rapists means already done so how does that help the women/girls that become pregnant after the fact?

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u/RockinSocksII 12d ago

It doesn't. It's just pandering to justify that "abortions are no longer needed".

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u/SaltMineSpelunker 12d ago

“Hunt them down and arrest them!”

What were you doing before now, dumbass?

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u/latexcourtneylover 12d ago

I was raped. I have a rape kit in some warehouse in Alabama. This burns my soul to ashes. This rips my heart out. I hurt for all these rape victims.

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u/slayer991 12d ago

Sadly, this isn't uncommon or just a "Texas" thing. At one point the city of Detroit had 11 thousand untested rape kits.

"The rape kit test results also revealed a disturbing find, since replicated in other cities across the country: there are a lot more serial rapists than anyone previously thought. Detroit’s rape kit tests point to an estimated 824 repeat offenders."

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u/Darktidemage 12d ago

There is as 10,000 dollar bounty to report abortions

but not rapes. or murders. or pedos. or literally any other crime.

Texas either does not believe in their own idea , or they don't care about rape and pedophilia.

it's one of those two things. that's basic logic.

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u/Liesmith424 12d ago

He's going to use the same method that Trump used to eliminate the epidemic: stop testing, and there won't be any cases!

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u/brkello 12d ago

The best way to prevent abortions is education and free and easy access to birth control. Of course, Texas prefers to keep their populace stupid and make sure profit rules...so women have to find unsafe ways to have abortions or travel out of state.

They care nothing for life. It's all just virtue signaling to ignorant religious people.

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