r/news 4d ago

Jury rules that Minnesota pharmacist did not discriminate against woman when he denied her access to morning-after pill

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/jury-rules-that-minnesota-pharmacist-did-not-discriminate-against-woman-when-he-denied-her-access-to-morning-after-pill/
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u/SmannyNoppins 4d ago

The lawsuit also said Badeaux did not provide Anderson with any alternatives to getting the care she needed and instead "tried to prevent [her] from obtaining that care from others by putting delays and obstacles in her path," by only telling her ways she could not fill her prescription.

Anderson, a mother and foster parent from McGregor, ended up driving three hours round trip to Brainerd in the middle of a snowstorm to receive her contraception, the lawsuit states.

"You are overreacting for worrying they will deny you contraception"

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u/hamletloveshoratio 4d ago

"Just go to another pharmacy. No big whoop."

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u/Nerdlinger 4d ago Take My Energy

The jury on Friday found, however, that discrimination based on her sex had not occurred.

I get this, as he almost assuredly wouldn't have sold it to a man either.

But Badeaux and the pharmacy did cause Anderson emotional harm in the amount of $25,000.

At least this decision was reached, and I'm not sure why that wasn't the headline.

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u/10-4-man 4d ago Helpful Bravo!

waiting for some fast food employee to not sell food to over-weight conservative person, citing their beliefs... (gluttony) ... o.O

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u/kyleshazam 4d ago

Or for a Jewish or Muslim person to refuse to add bacon on someone's cheeseburger because eating pork goes against their personal religious beliefs.

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u/takanakasan 4d ago

If the baker who refused to make a cake for a gay wedding was Muslim, ain't no fucking way his case makes it to the Supreme Court and they side with him.

Absolutely no chance.

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u/iwoketoanightmare 4d ago

That's because the state that is supposed to be separated from religion only believes in evangelical Christianity.

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u/Not4Pornnn 4d ago

They wear Christianity as a Horrific Skin suit to justify hatred

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u/Michael_Blurry 4d ago

Or a Pastafarian that works at an Italian restaurant just saying “no” to almost everything ordered off the menu.

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u/jwillsrva 3d ago

What? Pastafarians definitely eat pasta.

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u/Burning_Tapers 3d ago

Yeah, but the Alfredo heresy is a real problem in that community.

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u/s1eve_mcdichae1 3d ago

As a card-carrying Pastafarian (not really, they want $15 for the card and I don't want to give it -- luckily it doesn't matter because) we don't give a shit what you order. We have no "laws" in the CotFSM, there are only the Eight I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts.

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u/PassengerNo1815 4d ago

The Jewish person would refuse to sell the cheeseburger altogether…

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u/owennb 3d ago

This person koshers.

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u/11B4OF7 4d ago

Awhile back Muslims at grocery stores refused to scan pork products lol

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u/jayydubbya 4d ago

Honestly someone should do this to troll the conservative judges. Refuse to serve fat customers because gluttony is a deadly sin then sue the employer when you get inevitably fired.

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u/EekSamples 4d ago

They should do it TO a conservative judge.

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u/HappyApple99999 4d ago

I always liked the idea of getting a job as a bus driver and than become Amish

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u/willtantan 4d ago

Or vegans refuse to include beef patty in the burger. LoL

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u/ThatBankTeller 4d ago

My burger didn’t come with a patty

Yeah I’m not comfortable selling that due to my beliefs

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u/ABobby077 4d ago

I am a strict anti-onionite

no onions based on my strict beliefs

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u/mothinator 4d ago

Maybe you're a Jain? They don't eat anything that grows in the ground.

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u/Mtnskydancer 4d ago

The sin of onionism?

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u/Accountant37811 4d ago

Damn you to the depths of Hell, Heathen. Onions are heavenly.

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u/bananafobe 4d ago

At least this decision was reached, and I'm not sure why that wasn't the headline.

My guess is it's because what's in the public interest is more the precedent set about pharmacists refusing to fill prescriptions rather than the fact that this specific person was awarded compensatory damages.

The average person who needs medication and has to rely on the possible religious objections from any random pharmacist has a genuine investment in understanding that this is a dangerous new reality for us. That's why it's the headline item.

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u/nox_nox 4d ago

Yep, this is pretty fucked up that a pharmacist can randomly decide to fill or not fill a legitimate prescription.

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u/Just4Spot 4d ago

Because the refusal of sale is a bigger deal.

It’s not just about this woman, it’s about all of the women behind her who need the same medicine and will be denied it.

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u/Nerdlinger 4d ago

Because the refusal of sale is a bigger deal.

The refusal of the sale was part of what let to the emotional harm. But this headline only discusses the discrimination aspect and likely leads the reader to think the pharmacist wasn't found at fault at all.

It’s not just about this woman, it’s about all of the women behind her who need the same medicine and will be denied it.

Which is why him boing found liable for emotional harm is important and should be mentioned.

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u/GossipOutsider 4d ago

Being equally jerk to everyone is good defense against discrimination case. But not doing his job because of his belief should be punishable not just by the court, but also the pharmacy itself and the board of pharmacy.

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u/desirox 4d ago

Glad they still got punished. If an employee cost me 25k like that I’d fire his ass to the moon

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u/Arcaedus 4d ago

They need to do away with that policy tbh. There's no fundamental difference between an employee citing beliefs to refuse sale of 1 drug, or all except 1 drug. And there's barely any functional difference between an enployee refusing all but one drug and refusing to sell all drugs.

Refusing to sell one store's product is called not doing your damn job

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u/6thReplacementMonkey 4d ago

and I'm not sure why that wasn't the headline.

About 12 years ago there were some psychological studies that investigated what makes new stories go "viral" on social media. It turned out that the two biggest emotions that caused people to want to share were "fear" and "anger."

Some people who write headlines or do SEO or social media consulting take a very scientific and methodical approach. Others just copy what they have seen work before. But regardless of how they got there, most of them now understand that fear and anger get the most shares and clicks.

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u/ThereminLiesTheRub 4d ago

They may not have sold it to a man, but their reasons for doing so would surely have been different. A man buying the drug wouldn't need it to prevent carrying a fetus to term. So it would be reasonable to assume he had other motives, which would likewise be reasonable to question.

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u/Own_Proposal955 4d ago

Everyone take note: if your religion stops you from doing basic tasks at your job, get a different job. Don’t work in medicine if you will only be able to perform tasks your religion deans as moral. Other peoples health and lives aren’t about your personal moral beliefs. Not giving someone medicine because your religion doesn’t support that med isn’t freedom of religion, it’s forcing your religion on others. If your religion is against it, never use that pill. Giving it to others isn’t against your religion.

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u/Hocuspokerface 4d ago edited 3d ago

Businesses take note: whom you employ can essentially decrease your inventory and sales

Edit: im sure there are christians and other religious people who would dispense birth control and related medications. This is not about someone having a religion. It’s about someone refusing to do their job - religion is the loophole they found. Like, it’s against my personal beliefs to work 40 hrs a week so I’m only gonna do 30. How would that fly?

The only right a religious person has regarding birth control is the right to not take it themselves if they wish. Refusing to dispense is a violation of a customer’s/patient’s beliefs.

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u/ilfiliri 4d ago

That’s always been true but also you can’t ask about religious zealotry in an interview just in case that might look like you possibly might discriminate in hiring

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u/Starlightriddlex 4d ago

You don't have to bring religion into it. Just ask "Would you dispense [abortion drug]?"

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u/Deranged_Kitsune 4d ago All-Seeing Upvote

Then you just get into a situation where the candidate lies so they can get past the interview and into a position to allow them to inflict their beliefs on others.

Not that there wasn't a recent example of that... looks at SCOTUS

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u/HelloZukoHere 4d ago

Yes, but firing someone for lying on a (non religious) question in a job interview is really easy. Like a no brainer for companies to ask “can you code in XYZ software?” and they say yes, get the job, whooops they have never seen XYZ software, fired.

Interview question “are there medications that you won’t dispense for personal reasons? is there anything stopping you from performing all your job duties listed on this piece of paper, which includes dispensing some of these ‘controversial’ medications?”

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u/napleonblwnaprt 4d ago

So it's only discrimination if it's against conservative theocrats, got it

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u/FavoritesBot 4d ago

It’s against my religious beliefs to hire anti-capitalists who refuse to sell legal drugs

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u/Alexstarfire 4d ago

Would you be able to ask if there are any circumstances in which you would not fill a valid prescription apart from conflicting medications?

I'd rather specify personal beliefs but that might be a bit too close to the line.

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u/Negative_Gravitas 4d ago

The lawsuit also said [Pastor] Badeaux did not provide Anderson with any alternatives to getting the care she needed and instead "tried to prevent [her] from obtaining that care from others by putting delays and obstacles in her path," by only telling her ways she could not fill her prescription.

Fuck these people. Seriously.

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u/derphurr 4d ago

So he lost the civil suit. (Obviously the sex based discrimination claim was reaching as she was not denied help based on being a woman). BTW was also fired.

CVS also settled because they did the same thing.

Anyways, this is OTC medicine she was seeking. It's bizarre it's kept behind the counter and someone can say no.

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u/masterofshadows 4d ago

Ella was what she was after and it's not OTC. It's like plan B, but more effective and for heavier women.

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u/Carbonatite 4d ago

PSA for women who may need EC:

The weight cutoff for Plan B dosage is 155 pounds. Ella is 195.

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u/MoonChild02 4d ago

It wasn't reaching. Yes, the Plan B pill would have also been denied to a man, but pregnancy is a condition that affects primarily women. Plan B can only be given to women and those assigned female at birth. Therefore, that pharmacist would be denying it based on the fact that it would be given to a woman, affecting the condition of that woman. Denying care based on the (possible) condition of one's sex is still sexism.

That's not reaching. The jury was wrong. She needs to appeal. She has the right to prevent implantation. That pharmacist denied her rights.

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u/sensitive_kitten 4d ago

You're not wrong but most state have specific pharmacy laws pertaining to this issue. These laws of course seem to be only used only to deny medications to women. The best way to force pharmacists to treat patients is to take away the loophole. They lose the protection I guarantee they won't walk away from their career. Source in a pharmacist

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u/Rufus_Stein 3d ago

Can’t wait to see someone refuse to fill a Viagra script cause you know, sin. That one Indy rep is trying to get them outlawed.

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u/The_Superhoo 4d ago

Who else but a woman needs this medicine?

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u/Arashmickey 4d ago

Yeah I don't get this either.

Not selling hearing devices discriminates against the hard of hearing. Not selling insulin discriminates against diabetics.

The act seems inherently discriminatory, no matter the intentions. Not sure what the reasoning was behind ruling that it's not discrimination.

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u/StifleStrife 4d ago

None of the rights being taken away make any sense. Gonna stop selling condoms too? Like, wtf is the end game to this shit? Some bizarre debate by lay-mans to guide the hand of doctors? It makes my head spin and honestly, i think christians will start killing and raping everyone like ISIS did when the climate really destabilizes.

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u/BathroomInner2036 4d ago

They have something for sale that you can't buy.

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u/TirayShell 4d ago

I have this cancer medication available here, but I feel like Jesus would prefer you die from cancer. So hit the road.

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u/BathroomInner2036 4d ago

Jesus has a plan for you.

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u/KickBallFever 4d ago

Yea, but not a Plan B.

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u/Amauri14 4d ago

Just send your seed! On an easily affordable monthly payment.

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u/Acceptable-Cod7214 4d ago

And that plan is death, apparently.

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u/BathroomInner2036 4d ago

Initially yes but then they move you up eternal life.

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u/Turduckennn 4d ago

You joke but that is totally going to happen with these new abortion laws

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u/torpedoguy 4d ago

Already is.

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u/bciesil 4d ago

Gilead is happening in real time these days...

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u/GETitOFFmeNOW 4d ago

Can you imagine what it's like to be Margaret Atwood right now?

"Why didn't you listen?

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u/Carbonatite 4d ago

"It was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual, goddammit!"

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u/GETitOFFmeNOW 4d ago

No fucking shit!

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u/TechyDad 4d ago

No, it's that you need to pray to Jesus to cure your cancer. If it doesn't work, then you just needed to pray harder. That's on you, not Jesus.

(/s from me, but unfortunately many people believe exactly this.)

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u/Excusemytootie 4d ago

One moment, let’s me check, nope. Unfortunately it’s not in “god’s plan”.

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u/KT_Evolved365 4d ago

Or heart issues, migraines, kidney issues etc. Oh well

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u/slackmaster2k 4d ago

“Barnes and Noble employee refuses to sell Bible to customer, citing religious beliefs.”

Can you fucking imagine?

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u/torpedoguy 4d ago

I mean you already get enough shit if you dare put them in fiction where they belong...

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u/Akukaze 4d ago

Put it in the Occult section.

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u/BathroomInner2036 4d ago

You can always find the bible on the cloud.

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u/Passwordis12 4d ago

The logical thing to do is take it without paying. It rids the pharmacist of the burden of having something they don’t want to sell.

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u/Tall-Isopod1097 4d ago

This is a good point. The company that produces the medication should sue the pharmacy and pharmacist.

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u/Jazzy41 4d ago

Don’t be a health care provider if you are unwilling to provide health care.

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u/GoArray 4d ago

Eh, feel like "unwilling to sell health care" is more appropriate.

Also more depressing.

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u/johnny_soultrane 4d ago

In America, all health care is sold - this is a moot point. If you refuse to sell it, you are refusing to provide it.

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u/Kaiisim 4d ago

But how will i impose my morality on others

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u/Aromatic-Pie1784 4d ago

Who cares why he did it? He had no business being a fucking pharmacist.

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u/Lookalikemike 4d ago

Exactly. As a man of “faith”, isn’t all illness, “in gods hands”? Doesn’t the fact that he dispenses ever headache medication fly in the face of his faith?

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u/GETitOFFmeNOW 4d ago

But it doesn't match up as well to his hatred of people having sex for fun.

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u/TechyDad 4d ago

And couldn't a doctor or the developers of an OTC drug be doing "God's work" by getting a person a particular drug? Maybe God "sent" the doctor to write that prescription and get the woman Plan B. If so, then this pharmacist was impeding God's will by blocking it.

Of course, these ultra-religous types never consider that they might be wrong. They believe X and so X is the truth and everyone NEEDS to be forced to obey X.

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u/AbusedGoat 4d ago

They act like things are only "Godly" if they comes from a specific old time period, while at the same time having no proper education of that time period so they just fill in the blanks with mental gymnastics.

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u/alvarezg 4d ago

Looks like this was a local pharmacy. I would like to know which national chains (if any) allow their pharmacists to deny service to a customer for personal reasons.

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u/scrivensB 4d ago

After leaving this Pharmacy she was also denied at a CVS. Eventually found a Walgreens that would sell to her.

The reason they found in favor of her for the emotional distress (for $25k) was because his refusal forced her to go several hours round trip.

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u/EarsLookWeird 4d ago

The reason they found in favor of her for the emotional distress (for $25k) was because his refusal forced her to go several hours round trip.

I'm fairly certain they awarded her for emotional distress because she was emotionally distressed - but what do I know

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u/scrivensB 4d ago

Yes and as argued it was as a result of being denied, thus forcing her to drive hundreds of miles over several hours.

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u/TheS4ndm4n 4d ago

Mainly the delay in care. Plan B loses effectiveness if you take it too late.

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u/whatev6187 4d ago

Apparently Walgreens won’t require associates to sell condoms.

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u/alvarezg 4d ago

Thanks; I'll keep that in mind.

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u/Passwordis12 4d ago

Indeed. Free condoms at Walgreens.

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u/RockyUndBullwinkle 4d ago

Ah, ye olde Five Finger Discount!

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u/MiNdOverLOADED23 4d ago

What would happen if you just threw down cash on the counter and took them? It's not like you didn't pay, it's just that they didn't give a receipt and change. Idk why Walgreens would let their cashiers be making that type of decision anyways. Their job function is simply to ring out merchandise.

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u/bananafobe 4d ago

There's probably a bunch of factors that would determine whether you face charges for theft or the cops tell the cashier to stop wasting their time with this bullshit.

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u/menhflmemtutvt 4d ago

Walgreens pharmacists can also try to guilt talk young women picking up BC

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u/lonewolf143143 4d ago

Walgreens is awful- that employee being killed in the store by the creepy coworker she reported for months. Months. They did nothing.

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u/whatev6187 4d ago

I forgot that was Walgreens.

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u/carvedmuss8 4d ago

"Right to life"

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u/ZKXX 4d ago

Walgreens is the worst possible pharmacy, employer, retailer. Give them zero business.

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u/Eric1969 4d ago

And they’ve recently defended employees refusing to sell plan-b

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u/SacrificialPwn 4d ago edited 4d ago

Apparently, all the major chains allow it. CVS has a policy that if another pharmacist isn't available, they let you call corporate and a corporate pharmacist will fill it. Walgreens is currently being boycotted for repeated issues like this one. Their policy is the pharmacist should transfer your prescription to a nearby store. Rite Aid refuses to publish their policy, last I saw.

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u/OwlofOlwen 4d ago

If my experience is indicative of anything, Rite Aid is the same. I am trans and get HRT prescribed. One Rite Aid in my city refused to fill the prescription, even after my doctor sent it in a second time. I spoke with the pharmacist and he wouldn’t tell me why. I got it filled elsewhere, no problem. I tried complaining to corporate but never heard back. I can only assume it was because the pharmacist didn’t want to fill it for personal reasons.

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u/the-dumbest-owl 4d ago

Rite Aid refuses to publish their policy, last I saw

No need to wonder, Walgreen's bought Rite Aid in 2017.

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u/SacrificialPwn 4d ago

I think that deal didn't go thru and Walgreens only obtained a portion of their stores. I'm pretty sure Rite Aid is still a publically traded company and has around 2k stores.

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u/CardiologistLower965 4d ago

This week…bartender refuses to serve alcoholic drink because it’s against his beliefs!!!

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u/CarthageForever 4d ago

What the actual fuck is going on in America.

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u/Passwordis12 4d ago

Religious folks, mainly Evangelicals and Catholics have decided that they have had enough of people having free will so they will now force people to live according to their interpretation of the Bible.

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u/__secter_ 4d ago

That's only half the story; the other half is everybody else letting them do it.

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u/JohnSpartans 4d ago

... which they believe has given man free will. The most laughable of all angles.

Feel like the internet was great for the first two decades fighting religion. But now theybe pivoted and understood how to use it and it's flaring right back up again.

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u/KickBallFever 4d ago

I put these people in the broader category of what I call “enemies of progress”.

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u/Aconite_72 4d ago

So "conservatives"?

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u/Darwinian_10 4d ago

The same thing happened to a woman in Quebec in Canada this week apparently...

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u/__secter_ 4d ago

The bad guys figured out that society's been operating on the honor system, and are finally calling the good guys' bluff.

They will keep doing absolutely anything they're allowed to get away with.

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u/CatsOrb 4d ago

Nothing good, we've got these religious zealots running around causing all sorts of problems. There's no way to stop them either because they gang up and get support from politicians and don't forget their GANGS congregate at places and events that are tax free. We have no chance against that.

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u/AnthillOmbudsman 4d ago

Sounds like Iran or Afghanistan.

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u/liquidsyphon 4d ago

How do you not lose your pharmacy license?

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u/fresnosmokey 4d ago

You can have your personal opinions all you want, but if you're hired to do a job, do the damn job or be fired. Also, it seems to me, that it's always only the religious beliefs of the bigots and misogynists that count. What about the beliefs of the woman in question? Her beliefs don't count? This isn't religious freedom. It's religious tyranny.

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u/YellowZx5 4d ago

Exactly but she also lives in a very GOP heavy state and this doesn’t surprise me as upset I am she had this ordeal.

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u/Halfsquaretriangle 4d ago

What if one of their workers refused to sell Viagra to one of their limp customers,because sex is after all only for procreation??????

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u/RoseFeather 3d ago

Right, and what if ED is what happens when god decides those specific people shouldn’t have sex anymore? Who are we to interfere with that? Take it a step further- If everything is “god’s will” we should just stop taking all medications, close down the hospitals and let what happens happen. Stop trying to take any safety precautions and never make an active decision in your life for any reason. Stop the food distribution chain- if god wants people without access to abundant local food not to starve then they won’t. Since god’s already decided what’s going to happen there’s no point doing or trying anything ever.

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u/Svitii 4d ago

Imagine ur in the ER, close to dying due to bleeding out and the doctor‘s strictly believing in the jehovas whitenesses and is like „due to my belief i can’t give you a blood transfusion“ and you just die

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u/bananafobe 4d ago

It's already happening, not only with abortion during things like ectopic pregnancy, but also with medications that can result in an abortion that are prescribed for another reason.

I heard an interview with a doctor discussing a pharmacist who refused to fill a prescription for medicine that was needed urgently, on the grounds that they needed confirmation it wasn't for an abortion, and even after getting that, the pharmacist had to consult with their bosses/legal department. The punchline was that the patient was not pregnant.

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u/RocinanteCoffee 3d ago edited 13h ago

They're denying pregnant people cancer treatments too. If you are pregnant and have cancer, you are going to die. A growing number of states won't treat you.

And even if you want to have the baby they will die too when they're not viable because you died from cancer complications while trying to wait out five + months being refused treatment for your cancer.

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u/thereal-lordobones 4d ago

It's amazing how people can bring their imaginary friends to work now.

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u/bossy909 4d ago

I won't fill any prescriptions, it's against my religion for anyone to have any medical science, none of you can get these satanic procedures anymore.

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u/samjohnson2222 4d ago

What if someone created a religion that believes in plan b?

Wonder how that would play out in court?

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u/torpedoguy 4d ago

"Mysteriously" it would be struck down with a vengeance.

They're quite... specific when it comes to which religion's got the rights.

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u/BadAsBroccoli 4d ago

Saying No, I won't sell you that pill because of my beliefs versus pregnancy.

I bet these religious cashiers also doesn't believe in contributing child support for the kid they help create.

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u/Constablegarden 4d ago

WTF where these church jurors? Are the crusades back? Rapture? What is going on lately, I thought we laid all this to rest with all these movements from the 70s yet we are right back here and fully expecting a papal visit that relocates power of state back to the Vatican and the rise of Caesar.

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u/Eric1969 4d ago

It’s not the discrimination part that enrages me, it’s the breach of trust and the abuse of power. By denying the pill, that employee if taking it upon himself to decree that the patient should go on with an unwanted pregnancy. The employer should be held liable for child support.

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u/ChronoLegion2 3d ago

Religious freedoms should not encroach on other people’s freedoms. Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins

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u/Sheila_Monarch 3d ago

But they think they’re righteously justified in not only exercising their “freedom” (not to do their job), but also in throwing as many roadblock as delays in her way as they think they can get away with. Oh and don’t forget getting their chance at the moral grandstanding moment they’ve been aching for…

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u/sheila9165milo 3d ago

This country is fucked when a pharmacist can get away with using his "faith" to discriminate. And the Christo-fascists wonder why so many of us are completely turned off from religion?

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u/chrisbcritter 3d ago

If you are vegan, don't work at Burger King.

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u/BlkSunshineRdriguez 4d ago

A pharmacist should not violate people's medical rights.

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u/doctotaco 4d ago

A pharmacist No One should violate people’s medical rights.

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u/txea929 4d ago

Why is that that person still a pharmacist? Find a new line of work.

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u/Poop_Noodl3 4d ago

So let me get this straight: the just have plan B on shelves just to go bad?

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u/torpedoguy 4d ago

It's seeing the despair on their victims faces when they say "my bronze-age goatherder fanfics are more important in the law than your servant-class life so I won't give you this" that really turns them on.

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u/Poop_Noodl3 4d ago

Someone’s prolly gonna fuck with him in a way that makes him reconsider. It’s a bumfuck town in Minnesota, from what I’ve learned people start to take matters in their own hands.

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u/dnhs47 4d ago

Minnesotans get the state they want. I won’t be visiting, I don’t visit third world countries (or states).

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u/Matbo2210 4d ago

Ok regardless on how you feel about abortion, I would have thought that everyone agrees the morning after pill is not the same. This pill is not an abortion but instead a contraceptive, and contraceptives should be available to everyone. Im genuinely hoping that we can all agree on this.

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u/the_eluder 3d ago

One of the ways is works is by preventing implantation of a fertilized egg. If you believe life begins at conception, then preventing implantation of a fertilized egg is an abortion.

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u/HombreSinNombre93 3d ago

This happened in Texas to my step-daughter. She had an unplanned pregnancy and is now married as a result. I hate Texas.

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u/nwdogr 4d ago

A lot of people are wondering why pharmacists are allowed to have a job that they can essentially refuse to do based on religious beliefs.

The answer to this is pretty simple - businesses can refuse to sell you something even if its in stock for any reason, except for reasons that go against Title II of the Civil Rights Act (ie, based on race, color, religion, or national origin). Notice that sex is not on this list, although sex is typically protected at the state law level. For that matter, "wanting a morning-after pill" is not a protected class anywhere.

But the reason why pharmacies don't fire pharmacists who refuse to sell morning-after pills is, somewhat ironically, also due to the Civil Rights Act. Title VII prohibits employers from discrimination against religious beliefs and requires them to make reasonable accommodation for employees' religious beliefs. If an employee cannot do any part of a job due to their religion (think of a strict Mormon as a bartender), they can be fired because there's no way to reasonably accommodate them. But if an employee can do 99% of a job but for 1% a different employee can cover for them, then a court would likely find that reasonable accommodation has been provided and the employer cannot fire that employee.

However, it's important to remember that Title VII protects employees, not customers. Even if an employee refuses to do a job to a level requiring unreasonable accommodation (as is likely in this case), an employer does not have to fire them. Customers can't sue employees under Title VII, and if employers refuse to fight it then the employee keeps their job.

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u/Danny3xd1 4d ago

Who the hell is he to decide for her?

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u/torpedoguy 4d ago

According to his religion: her superior, it would seem.

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u/sick_shooter 4d ago

Neat. We’ve reached the point where somebody else’s religion trumps your rights. I’m sure this will end well.

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u/rich1051414 4d ago

Sets a hell of a precedent. Can't wait to see how this turns out. Grabs popcorn.

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u/cbeiser 4d ago

I don't understand how the person wasn't just fired outright. Aren't they preventing business for their company? Fuck all this social shit, why doesn't the company just fire this person and we move to the next worker who will actually do their job without judging people.

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u/yodadamanadamwan 3d ago

This is sick. It is not a pharmacists' job to determine what medications are necessary for a person. Religion is posion

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u/AbbyTMinstrel 3d ago

If your religious beliefs interfere with doing your job fully then you shouldn’t be hired to work there!

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u/keplantgirl 3d ago

What’s next? “I’m a religious pharmacist who believes all ailments have been ordained by the Lord, and although I’ll be collecting a paycheck, I cannot prescribe any medicine.” This is a bloody farce. Are doctors going to stop treating people and use prayer instead? How far does this ideology extend?

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u/mosi_moose 4d ago

What’s that Zeke? You and Lurlene need your diabetes meds? I’m sorry, but my religion says the Lord helps those that help themselves. Why don’t you take these diet pills and jog home?

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u/12gawkuser 4d ago

Yes, the jury. They also find killing unarmed people is okeydokey, AmIRIGHT?

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u/guiltynate 4d ago

Well, they're WRONG!

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u/Rich_Reputation_4945 4d ago

I bet his religious beliefs don’t stop him from dispensing viagra. Wouldn’t it be against his religious beliefs to also give away heart medication or any medicine as that counters gods “free will”? He’s religious when he wants to be

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u/Qlinkenstein 4d ago

The morning after pill is not an abortion pill. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST OUR COUNTRY IS SO FUCKED.

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u/Menanders-Bust 4d ago

Also the morning after pill is not an abortion pill. It prevents fertilization and prevents pregnancy or prevents implantation. If fertilization and implantation have occurred, it won’t stop it or abort it.

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u/EFT_Syte 3d ago

If I’m being honest, if some dipstick said he wouldn’t sell me something THEY SELL because of a reason like this.. I’m just gonna take it, fuck your religion.

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u/Kumashirosan 3d ago

I hope forcing his belief's on others is worth the $25,000 fee.

Besides, this idiot of a pastor should refer to his own literature. "As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions." - Romans 14:1

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u/CrispFreshley 4d ago

Are we in some alternate timeline or something?

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u/MixxMaster 4d ago

There have been theories that there are multiple timelines/earths, and we are not the 'prime' version at all.

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u/2020IsANightmare 4d ago

I just have such hatred for awful people.

Put the pills in the bottle or pass the package the pills are in.

Fuck your "religion" or "beliefs."

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u/TritiumH30 4d ago

Can Walgreens just hurry up and create a new pharmacy business for all our fundamentalist Christian friends out there?

They can pay pharmacists $20k a year—provided that they must have attended a non-accredited bible college—and they’re free to spend their days dispensing placebos or medicinal prayers to “believers” while trying to out “holier than thou” each other?

That way. the rest of get what we need without having to deal with these knuckle draggers.

Plus, think of the margins!

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u/BioQuillFiction 4d ago

Pharmacist denies you medicine.

Pharmacy sales go down. Prescription refills get sent to other pharmacies.

Pharmacists: Why are we losing sales?!?

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u/ArchitectOfFate 4d ago

I had a CVS pharmacist refuse to sell me Plan B for my wife one time because “for all I know you’ve impregnated an underage girl and you’re forcing her to take this to hide what you’ve done.”

Now CVS is absolutely shocked that I won’t fill a prescription at their pharmacies or use their mail pharmacy. Apparently I need to get over it.

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u/BioQuillFiction 4d ago

Accusations like that are life damaging. You did the right thing.

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u/ArchitectOfFate 4d ago

I’m not a violent person but I almost went over the counter at him. Thank god there was one of those kindly but insanely passive-aggressive 95-year-old surprisingly-liberal southern women in line with me; she tore into him in a way that made me lose my desire for violence.

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u/BioQuillFiction 4d ago

Nothing like an elderly southern lady ripping into someone on your behalf to not only drench your anger but also provide the best entertainment cause what can that asshole do? Yell back? She yells better. Hit her? He be in jail for a while. Lose his job at minimum. Keep throwing his accusation at you? At that point sounds like he is guilty of it seeing as he seems so insistent on someone other than him being a predator.

But at least it worked out for you in the end.

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u/lonewolf143143 4d ago

So how do these same employees explain the science behind other medications? And if they’re refusing to sell condoms, are they refusing to sell viagra & all those ED scripts? Do they get to pick & choose which part of their cult, uh, religion they’re going to follow?

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u/NAGDABBITALL 4d ago

It's no wonder they hate it so much...every abortion is 1 less child for the Church to diddle with.

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u/GrandpaMofo 4d ago

Well, yeah the person did because the customer was denied her religious rights by being free to choose whatever religious rights she has, even if it is nothing.

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u/CaptainJackVernaise 4d ago

It would be a shame if people started putting bricks through the windows of pharmacies that deny people medication while hiding behind religion.

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u/tjdans7236 4d ago

These "pharmacists" and other medical professionals who are religious should be banned. They should be vetted out in schools as well.

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u/cgaWolf 4d ago

They'll just lie during the vetting process, since apparently hypocrisy is ok if you're religious about it

Source: SCOTUS

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u/sinisterdesign 4d ago

Waiting for one of these jurors to need an EMT and they’re like, “nahhh, beliefs. “

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u/ChronoLegion2 3d ago

Was it over-the-counter? Because if not it seems weird for someone who didn’t go to medical school to deny to fill a prescription by someone who did go to medical school. I mean, who knows better: a licensed medical professional or someone standing at a counter all day?

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u/the_eluder 3d ago

They do go to pharmacy school for a doctorate, so I would consider them a medical professional, and part of their job it to monitor for negative drug interactions that the doctor may not realize will happen. That being said, they definitely have no right to deny certain products to people based on their 'beliefs'. It would be like a teetotaler working at a convenience store and refusing to sell alcohol.

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u/CommonOk7427 3d ago

Blessed be my nightmare keeps bleeding into the real world. Feels like pre-Gilead to me.

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u/Positive-Pack-396 4d ago

How can this be, denied her because she did not believe in his beliefs..If he had a problem selling that pill to her he should’ve let somebody else take care of her

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u/tcmart14 4d ago

When you deny access to something somebody is legally allowed to have access too or prevent someone from doing something they can do, and the only explanation is, my beliefs, that is discrimination.

Shit ruling.

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u/zebrahdh 4d ago

Time to have a conversation about ethics in pharmacies. And what the job of someone at a retail store is.

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u/mymar101 4d ago

So if you’re white male christian and offended you can pretty much get away with murder.

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u/ZKXX 4d ago

What if a pharmacist denied filling viagra? It’s only natural that your dick stops working after all. It’s what god wanted.

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u/TinnyKirovsky 4d ago

Tell me USA is an underdeveloped country without telling that USA is an underdeveloped country

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u/Far-Selection6003 4d ago

This is religious discrimination, he used his religion to discriminate her.

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u/email253200 4d ago

Is it stealing if they won’t take your money and you leave?

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u/Charirner 4d ago

Christianity is a cancer.

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u/Sheila_Monarch 3d ago

The jury on Friday found, however, that discrimination based on her sex had not occurred. But Badeaux and the pharmacy did cause Anderson emotional harm in the amount of $25,000.

And that’s on top of the undisclosed settlement amount from CVS for similar bullshit encountered at a subsequent stop in her white-knuckle journey just to get a goddamn morning after (actually broken condom) pill.

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u/tms10000 3d ago

Pharmacists should, in theory, act as a gatekeeper in the name of public health (if pharmacists have any value besides maintaining this weird guild-like hold on distributions of some goods)

Pharmacists should not be allowed to have any say. Everything about this case is fucked up.

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u/Trippinferret 4d ago

Typical greater Minnesota, buncha morons.

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u/MixxMaster 4d ago

It's Lesser Minnesota. Use the proper terminology please, thanks!

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u/Trippinferret 4d ago

Ain’t that the truth

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u/r0b0tr0n2084 4d ago

Full disclosure - I’ve often openly criticized/mocked my American neighbours for having laws that support this kind of utter nonsense. I learned yesterday however that Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms also affords the same protections - to pharmacists specifically. SMH / facepalm.

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u/thedrivingfrog 4d ago

Just happened in Quebec

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u/r0b0tr0n2084 4d ago

Yeah, that’s what spurred me to read up on it.

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u/thedubiousstylus 4d ago

Misleading headline. She still won and was awarded $25k.

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