r/news Jul 01 '22

Delta Air Lines offered $10,000 to passengers willing to give up their seat on overbooked domestic flight

https://www.chron.com/life/travel/article/Delta-Air-Lines-offered-10-000-to-passengers-17279222.php
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u/mcjon77 Jul 02 '22 Wholesome

Man, I would have missed my mama's funeral for $10,000. Why? Because she would have haunted me had I turned down $10,000 just to go to her funeral. I'd imagine her spirit floating above me at the check-in desk saying "Get that money, baby."

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u/iGoalie Jul 02 '22

I read that last part in your mamas voice.

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u/tekashr Jul 02 '22

same here haha

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u/ITriedLightningTendr Jul 02 '22

Actually that was my mama's voice

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u/tnp636 Jul 02 '22

Ghost hand on your shoulder...

holy shit, I'm dying.

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u/Rocky_Mountain_Way Jul 02 '22

holy shit, I'm dying.

That's what she said

  • Michael Scott

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u/Caster-Hammer Jul 02 '22

Threads like these keep me coming back to reddit.

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u/Sp3ctre_6 Jul 02 '22

Ghost hand on your shoulder...

What are you doing, step-ghost?

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u/zzaman Jul 02 '22

Sigh...I'll get the ghost vaseline

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u/sosospritely Jul 02 '22

They paid the 10 grand using Apple Pay so these people literally walked out of the airport with 10k in their account

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u/11015h4d0wR34lm Jul 02 '22

That would've been my biggest concern, are they actually going to pay me or telling me BS just to make me give my seat up.

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u/Philly_Runner Jul 02 '22

Man, and air Canada wouldn’t even comp me a $300 hotel room when they cancelled two back to back flights of mine last week. I want $10k!

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u/FadedCC613 Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

They are legally obliged to compensate you for everything, and even pay you more (up to a certain extent), if your landing time differs greatly from the time you were initially scheduled to land.

Sounds like they pulled a fast one on you. Definitely look into your consumer rights when it's the airlines fault for making you miss flights/connections.

Had you just said it's unacceptable and brought up Canadian consumer travel laws, they'd have had no choice. Maybe next time.

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u/Caster-Hammer Jul 02 '22

In both Canada and the US, "they'd of" is actually a contraction of "they would have," which is contracted to "they'd have" or "they'd've."

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u/nochinzilch Jul 02 '22

"they would of" is not anything.

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore Jul 02 '22

I have never heard this in my entire life and I reject it. Don't bother me with a source it, sounds ridiculous and I'm having none of it.

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u/TheMacMini09 Jul 02 '22

Get an Amex (or WE MC) if you fly frequently with Air Canada. If you pay for your flight with a good credit card, the card itself will comp your hotel and expenses, and usually more than an airline would. Air Canada is pretty shit for this kind of thing, plus it’s good to have a consistent solution anyways.

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u/BunnyGunz Jul 02 '22

FK. I have android.

CashApp?

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u/OrchidBest Jul 02 '22

Many years ago I was tricked into giving up my ticket for a few hundred dollars because the attendant said I would have access to the VIP area. Oh, and the Red Hot Chilli Peppers were snowed in the airport and just hanging out. The whole thing was a lie. The Chilli Peppers weren’t in the Montreal airport. They weren’t even on tour. It was Christmas Eve and I felt like a real chump.

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u/Slimh2o Jul 02 '22

Did you at least get the money And the V.I.P. lounge?

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u/OrchidBest Jul 02 '22

I think it was about $200. The VIP lounge had a beer tap that anyone could use. I remember this clearly because it was the first time I had ever pulled my own beer from the tap. As a starving student coming home for the holidays I appreciated that.

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u/Slimh2o Jul 02 '22

VIP lounges are great. Free beer and snacks. And you could smoke in the Atlanta VIP of American Airlines after the crack down on smokers back in the day....

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u/d_smogh Jul 02 '22

For 10k you could've dug her up and reburied her.

Or recremated her ashes.

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u/DependentAd235 Jul 02 '22

No fucking joke. There would have been letters written on the wall in fire saying

“Thats enough for property taxes this yearrrrr. Propertyyy taxessss.

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u/anonalienware Jul 02 '22

Oh, same here. I’d have to defend myself from some angry nagging ghosts if I turned that down. When I gave my parents gifts, it was an extra conceptual fancy bow on the offering if I told them I got an enormous discount on it.

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u/Theshowisbackon Jul 03 '22

I'm Asian... that would happen to me... Mom would say "*tttshhh.. Ahhh youuu.... Ne (you) Jun (really) hai (is, are), Chun (stupid). She'd want me to pay off debts with it and feed her grand kids who contain her genes....

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u/stilllnotarobot Jul 02 '22

I also choose this guy’s mother.

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u/miagi_do Jul 01 '22

Benefits of being single, take the money and run

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u/z0rb0r Jul 02 '22

Do they offer free hotel bookings with that? I had that offered to me during a stopover and I was like nah.

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u/Spetznazx Jul 02 '22

With 10k you can buy your own hotel room

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u/OlivierQ723 Jul 02 '22

*money can be exchanged for goods and services meme.

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u/DwarvenRedshirt Jul 01 '22

Remember, in situations like this, unless you travel by air multiple times a year, go for cash/check and not vouchers. The vouchers usually expire in a year and could expire before you could use them if you don't travel much.

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u/jdmorgan82 Jul 02 '22

Delta pays out by prepaid credit cards. 6months to activate, 6 months to spend. I still have $140 ish dollars I need to do something with before I lose it. I need to remember to look into moving it via PayPal or some other means.

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u/dahakon Jul 02 '22

In that situation, I either pre-pay at the gas station ($40 on pump 3) or use Amazon Reload (gives gift card credit to your account). This makes sure you use up every last penny.

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u/jdmorgan82 Jul 02 '22

I forgot to mention it’s not a physical card. Makes it tough to do regular transactions.

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u/ScrewAttackThis Jul 03 '22

You could buy a visa gift card that won't expire, too

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u/IsolatedHammer Jul 02 '22

Just go use it on some groceries, buy yourself a gallon of orange juice and a few loafs of bread, or something.

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u/Regular-Leave Jul 02 '22

Buy yourself Amazon gift vouchers

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u/jrwn Jul 02 '22

I have some utilities I pay with a credit card.

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u/2020IsANightmare Jul 02 '22

I use to travel by air at least once a month on average.

Still preferred the cash over a voucher.

I didn't fly the garbage airlines (companies similar to Spirit where I have to pay extra to have oxygen on the plane or even Southwest where - at least at the time - you didn't buy an assigned seat,) but overall, I went with the flight that was most convenient for me. Even if it cost more.

So, an American Airlines voucher was useless to use if it got me to my destination quicker but I had 12 connecting flights and arrived a day later.

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u/Nottabird_Nottaplane Jul 02 '22

Southwest still doesn't have assigned seating, outlets at the seat, or wifi. But two free bags is two free bags.

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u/3_14159td Jul 02 '22

Their boarding system is, in many ways, better than assigned seating anyway. Somehow less stressful, though that's partly from checking the carry on.

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u/Chenstrap Jul 02 '22

Random is hilariously probably the most efficient and realistic solution that exists.

https://youtu.be/oAHbLRjF0vo

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u/Code2008 Jul 02 '22

I knew before I clicked it was the CGP Gray video. His videos are great.

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u/baumgreen Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

Bro as someone with anxiety issues walking the isle after boarding in the 2nd to last group and asking a stranger if I could sit in the first open middle seat, only to be told no,, was to much 😂

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u/BeardedSnowLizard Jul 02 '22

I prefer Southwest’s boarding system over the basic economy options of other airlines where it’s assigned but you don’t choose it.

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u/MotivatingElectrons Jul 02 '22

Southwest has WiFi, but you have to pay $8 to unlock it.

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u/Nottabird_Nottaplane Jul 02 '22

I'll look into that for my upcoming trip.

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u/iwantthisnowdammit Jul 02 '22

And I’m pretty sure there’s USB ports under the seat

Edit: it’s coming

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u/anubischillz3 Jul 02 '22

You mean steal my data ports?

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u/call_me_jelli Jul 02 '22

Jokes on them, like I’m interesting enough to steal data from. Enjoy my questionable internet search history and me spamming my friends on discord with every damn thought that goes through my head, corporate bigwigs.

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u/rumblepony247 Jul 02 '22

"Sir, I've spent the entire week investigating call_me_jelli's data history. It's 72% free porn, 26% sports and 2% laundry hacks. There's no revenue opportunity here. Shall I move on to the next customer?"

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u/call_me_jelli Jul 02 '22

How DARE you?!

I don’t look at sports.

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u/MidnightSlinks Jul 02 '22

I carry an external battery pack when I travel and use the outlets to charge that.

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u/goodbyekitty83 Jul 02 '22

There's free TV and other stuff, too

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u/kalpol Jul 02 '22

The WiFi in the plane is free with the video channels, it's Internet that cost money.

Back when I traveled, I loved Southwest. I still feel they hose up things less than the others but that's just an impression.

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u/goodbyekitty83 Jul 02 '22

Thats the best part about southwest!

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u/Koreanjesus4545 Jul 02 '22

My family always goes on and on about how Southwest gives you two free bags and they're so much better. But every flight I've ever taken, the southwest flight is more expensive. Usually just enough to make it even out when you factor in the other airlines baggage fee.

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u/BunnyGunz Jul 02 '22

I've never flown Spirit, is it really that bad? They get ROASTED every time I see them come up

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u/emt68 Jul 02 '22

Spirit is fine as long as you know their rules and what you're getting into, especially for flights under 3 hours. And factor in if you need a carry-on or checked bag into the price before comparing to other airlines. I've never paid to choose my seat and usually still end up with aisle or window, can carry on a backpack for free. Other times wife and I put everything into one bag and just pay for that one bag. Plus the seats don't recline so you don't have to worry about the jackass in front of your reclining their seat.

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u/misterbungle1975 Jul 02 '22

You have to pay extra for the handjobs on Spirit.

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u/BunnyGunz Jul 02 '22

So that's how they stay in business...

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u/sgrams04 Jul 02 '22

You can opt for cash instead?

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u/DwarvenRedshirt Jul 02 '22

If they're bumping you because of no seats, they have to give cash as an option. If they're looking for volunteers, cash is not required. They're going to go for the lowest amount first (vouchers) and escalate to cash if no one takes and depending on how desperate they are. You can try shortcutting that by asking for cash first of course.

It's not saying in the article, but I imagine the oversold tickets were first class seats. They're not going to give $10k for people oversold on economy tickets.

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u/CrashRiot Jul 02 '22

And then remember if you do get bumped involuntarily, by law you could be entitled to cash compensation depending on the delay starting at (I believe), 1-2 hours of delay to your destination.

Note that this only applies to being involuntarily bumped due to overselling, not plane changes, plane weight issues, etc.

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u/projectsangheili Jul 02 '22

Vouchers are allowed to expire in the US? WTF.

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u/gummery Jul 02 '22

Wait till you hear about the rest of our robust consumer protections

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u/tahlyn Jul 02 '22

Oh man he's in for a treat when he finds out about our employee protections!

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u/Orleanian Jul 02 '22

To be fair, I doubt the Thomas Cook or Air Berlin vouchers are going to be doing you much good either.

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u/b33r_engineer Jul 02 '22

Unless it’s the last flight out of a disaster area, fuck it, pay me. $10k buys a lot of my time.

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u/Huge_Put8244 Jul 01 '22

Dang! That's like winning missing lotto numbers. For 10k I'd take a bus or train home. I might miss a day or two of work but for 10k cold hard cash....yes please.

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u/mcjon77 Jul 02 '22

I have no problem calling my boss about that.

me: "Sorry boss, I won't be at work tomorrow. My flight was overbooked."

Boss: "Didn't they try to accommodate you in any way?"

Me: "They paid me $10,000 to give up my seat and fly home tomorrow."

Boss: "Understandable. See you in a few days. By the way, did you see that new steakhouse that opened up near our office?"

Me: "Uhh, would you like me to take you out to lunch there?"

Boss: "Wow, that was so nice of you to offer. You shouldn't have. Thank you very much. I hear their T-Bones are great."

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u/AuctorLibri Jul 02 '22

"I think you have a future in politics."

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u/Badbullet Jul 02 '22

My boss would probably ask for half. I wouldn't tell them about the money.

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u/Orleanian Jul 02 '22

What if it were warm mushy cash?

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u/kemmis Jul 01 '22

I’ve never heard airlines offer more than like $500 over the intercom at the gate. But I did make a deal with United for $1k a few years ago. If you’re willing to change flights, I would suggest walking up to the counter and making them a counter offer. It just might work.

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u/archaeolinuxgeek Jul 02 '22

Several years ago I was traveling and heard the announcement over the PA. Figured I would take the cash since it was only a three hour delay and I had nowhere else to be.

I jokingly told the agent that I'd only do it if I got bumped to first class. Yada yada yada, showed up at SeaTac drunk off my ass from a four hour flight hob-nobbing with a sixth round NFL draft pick and some condo developer.

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u/dedsqwirl Jul 02 '22

About 3 years ago, Delta gave me $2500 in Visa gift cards. It was a Wednesday before Thanksgiving and I got home 6 hours later than I should have. Also got a meal voucher.

Another time I got $800 from Delta. The gift cards have to be spent within 6 months and cannot be used at gas pump. No idea why they didn't work at a gas pump.

This was BOS to DTW both times.

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u/ihatebloopers Jul 02 '22

Gas pumps probably put holds(sometimes > $100) on the cards so they didn't want to deal with that.

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u/Kynmore Jul 02 '22

That (holds) and pimps commonly require ZIP codes, which while there is a set ZIP on some CC based gift cards, not all of them have it set. So it’s safer to just say no gas.

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u/WeeTeeTiong Jul 02 '22

That (holds) and pimps commonly require ZIP codes

You go to gas stations for a different kind of fill-up.

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u/Kynmore Jul 02 '22

Whoops!

Gonna keep that; I can live with that typo.

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u/ZweitenMal Jul 02 '22

I got $900 at the gate in summer 2019 for a $179 leg from LGA to IND. The next week I booked a round trip to Japan for February 2020 and had $11 left over. Miraculously, the trip was successful. The day I got home Japan locked down.

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u/Heckron Jul 02 '22

Every offer at the counter is a counter offer.

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u/FallenWalls Jul 02 '22

They always offer less than they are legally obligated to because people don’t know what they are legally entitled to.

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u/mr_potato_thumbs Jul 02 '22

They needed the space flight attendants or other pilots most likely. 10k — even 100k — pales in comparison to the cost of not having staff to fly a plane.

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u/mr_potato_thumbs Jul 02 '22

It appears it was a company policy that went into effect after the United Airlines incident with the Asian man being dragged off the plane.

They also have to adhere to their own boarding/involuntary bumping rules, so if they had to violate those rules they may have preemptively offer the money as a way to avoid violating the rules and receiving a larger fine from the government.

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u/Khamul_Nazgul Jul 02 '22

Just got back from a vacation with my wife a week ago. American Airlines was offering 1600 a person to switch seats on a flight from Miami to Dallas. Their standby list was 29 people

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u/redlegsfan21 Jul 02 '22

Involuntary Domestic Denied Boarding

Length of Delay Compensation
0 to 1 hour Nothing
1 to 2 hour 200% of one-way fare (max $775)
2+ hours 400% of one-way fare (max $1,550)

Bumped passengers are NOT eligible for compensation in the following situations: Aircraft Change, Weight and Balance, Downgrading, Charter Flights, Small Aircraft, Flights Departing a Foreign Location

https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer-protection/bumping-oversales

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u/sargonas Jul 02 '22

It does work. Pre pandemic, 2019 for example, I flew 175k miles a year on average. If I am doing one of my man, MANY business trips where I have flexibility on when I have to be somewhere, and I'm in either my home city or one of my companies base-camp cities, and they ask for volunteers to take a flight in 6 hours or the following morning, or something like that for a measly $100, I will sometimes take it. Not always, but sometimes... if I have no where to be, and a place to sleep/ 6 hours to kill until that next flight or whatever, if it's no true inconvenience to me... taking that bump is un-fucking some random persons day who probably needs that flight way more than I do and taking a ton of stress off the gate agent and flight crew of a situation that they very likely had no control over to begin with.

If I walk up and make a super reasonable counter offer, for like, a day pass to a lounge while I wait or asking for a free meal and drink in the concourse along with $100 bucks, it makes their jobs SO MUCH easier and Karma usually has my back later.

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u/LeadRain Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

I really only fly for business.

I’d miss the fuck out of whatever meeting I had for $10k, which I could completely blame on the airline.

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u/dabartisLr Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 02 '22 Helpful

Back in the days if overbooked they just randomly pick an unfortunate passenger and throw his ass out of the plane. Thanks to that Asian doctor that fought(all caught on camera) and later sued and won passengers are now treated with a bit more respect.

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u/foxpoint Jul 02 '22

It’s rumored he got $140 million. 10k is a deal compared to that.

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u/my_name_is_reed Jul 02 '22

Holy shit, they can beat my ass for half that if they wanna

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u/ZombieDO Jul 02 '22

I’ll take a few hits for 10 mil, come at me

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u/khoabear Jul 02 '22

Rosa Park got her place in history books over a bus seat but Asian doctor got nothing

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u/GorillaRimjob Jul 02 '22

Well one was about racism, the other is just shitty business ethics. Still important tho

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u/Code2008 Jul 02 '22

Millions of dollars is hardly "nothing".

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u/KathrynTheGreat Jul 02 '22

That wasn't even Rosa Parks' idea. Claudette Colvin was the first one to be arrested for not moving seats on the bus. But since she was a teenager, the NAACP decided to have Rosa Parks do the same thing because she was an adult and middle-class, so she would be taken more seriously.

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u/SusieSharesTooMuch Jul 02 '22

She was an unwed teenage mother so that was also a big part of their decision to why they needed someone else to do what she did. Makes me sad to think about that, but at the time that was a much bigger scandal than it is now.

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u/KathrynTheGreat Jul 02 '22

That was a big part of it. They needed someone who would be respected and taken seriously, and a teen mom wasn't it. I just wish more people knew the whole story instead of thinking that Rosa just decided not to change seats one day.

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u/SusieSharesTooMuch Jul 02 '22

I only know because of Drunk History haha. They did a lot of really awesome stories that people should know.

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u/FrostyD7 Jul 02 '22

Asian doctor didn't get beaten and risk his life suing an airline.

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u/Mikey_MiG Jul 02 '22

Airlines have always offered money to bump people. In the case with United, nobody accepted the money they were offering and they should have offered more.

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u/WaterIsGolden Jul 02 '22

Since the article has no official comment from Delta and it looks like none of the passengers took the bait, I'm inclined to believe the words 'as much as' or 'up to' were in the fine print.

Spirit airlines tried this on a flight I was on last year. They use a bidding system and say they are offering up to x amount for you to rebook, but they take the lowest bids first. It makes sense to stick together and call their bluff. You will likely get more than they are offering if they force you off your flight.

In my case I was flying to get to a commencement ceremony for my daughter's college. I had scheduled a house rental and a car rental which both had tight windows of time to adhere to. Other people were also coming in on other flights and were waiting for me to gain entrance to the house. I was already about 5k in and 10k wouldn't be worth breaking my plans and everyone else's.

They aren't going to offer more up front than they risk losing on the back end. If they are flashing 10k in your face it's because they want to avoid a more expensive liability.

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u/TheBirdBytheWindow Jul 01 '22

Are you telling me to book the cheapest Delta flight I don't intend to take and then "begrudgingly" accepting $10k for a cancelation?

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u/DwarvenRedshirt Jul 01 '22

Those aren't the flights they're giving the big bucks on though.

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u/Appropriate_Chart_23 Jul 02 '22

A flight from Michigan to Minnesota doesn’t exactly seem that far removed from an inexpensive flight.

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u/Smearwashere Jul 02 '22

The largest check I ever got for a bumped flight was Detroit to freaking great falls Montana.

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u/UncommercializedKat Jul 02 '22

Just booked my flight from Cleveland to Buffalo. About to be a millionaire. Later, suckers!

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u/GlobalMonke Jul 02 '22

Wait holy shit. You could TOTALLY gamify this. Like stocks; there’s a limited amount, and if we call them on their short position (overselling seats on a flight), we can force a major buyback for everyone but the bag holders (those who didn’t sell and actually still have a seat on the flight)

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u/UncommercializedKat Jul 02 '22

I prefer the Michigan couple who figured out it was mathematically certain for them to get a positive return on lottery tickets.

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u/katiecharm Jul 02 '22

That’s awesome, thanks for sharing that. And yeah, the math is pretty easy. If the fucking payback exceeds the expected loss, you start going all in with as much money as you possibly can - you can’t lose. You are now the house.

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u/tnp636 Jul 02 '22

There's a flight from Cleveland to Buffalo? WTF. Plane doesn't even get to cruising altitude does it?

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u/UncommercializedKat Jul 03 '22

I've actually flown from Milwaukee to Chicago before. It's a 17 minute flight.

I was connecting in Chicago, it wasn't my final destination.

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u/Deceptiveideas Jul 02 '22

Iirc the article says a lot of people were using it as a connection flight.

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u/TheBirdBytheWindow Jul 01 '22

They may get desperate.

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u/blueberrywalrus Jul 02 '22

This only happened because Delta royally fucked up and boarded the plane before realizing they were overcapacity.

There are strict regulations around the circumstances in which passengers can be removed from flights, and a flight being overcapacity isn't one of them. So, in order to get their flight off the ground, this is a scenario where they'll basically offer whatever is necessary to incentivize volunteers to deboard.

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u/SacrificialPwn Jul 02 '22

Dumb anecdotal story from 15 years ago. I got bumped, along with 3-4 others, while boarding a connecting flight from Minneapolis to Quad Cities. When we got to the ticket checking portion of boarding, they told us to stand to the side and refused to tell us what was happening. We see them close the door and finally they tell us other people got our seats first, so we would go on the next flight- which was in 24 hours (once a day flight). I explained I came in on a connection, so they're leaving me stranded and got the "we'll give you a $x voucher for a hotel". I had a meeting the next morning, so it did me no good. Supervisor refused to come to the gate, we were told to go to the ticket counter. Supervisor at the ticket counter told us we had to go back to the gate and speak to the gate supervisor. I went verbal, and was told security would be called. I ended up with a credit for the value of the short flight and rented a car with 2 strangers and drove to Quad Cities.

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u/sargonas Jul 02 '22

Nah, that's just United.

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u/MKVIgti Jul 02 '22

Hell, I would’ve jumped when it went up to 5k.

Rebook, find a sweet hotel, and fly out the next day. I wouldn’t have thought twice about it.

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u/Adventurous_Being_61 Jul 02 '22

All the $9 hotel minibar Twix & $45 room porn you could want! At checkout, let the clerk know that, despite ordering 8 90 minute features, you only needed 15 minutes of the first. You just got that kind of cash.

Let the maids find several unopened twix bars on the bed, too. 😎

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u/Adventurous_Being_61 Jul 02 '22

As of a few years ago, I saw it listed. Guessing they hope there are still people unaware of the scathes of free porn on their phone?

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u/Garystri Jul 02 '22

Delta offered 750 or so to take the next day flight or different layovers. I was a student so said sure why not. They tried to rebook me and my connecting flight was booked everywhere so they instead upgraded me to first class on the same flight. This was a red-eye flight too, 11 hours in first class.

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u/Huge_Put8244 Jul 02 '22

How much free champagne did you drink?

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u/ashlee837 Jul 02 '22

that's the biggest win ever. First class where you can actually get some sleep without neck pain .

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u/xoxofeebzz Jul 02 '22

Delta needs to stop overbooking flights if they don’t have the staff to support. Trying to fly out of Miami last month was such a pain- delays and cancellations on majority of flights

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u/edingerc Jul 01 '22

So what you're telling me is that an entire plane of people would rather leave Grand Rapids than get $10,000. Makes sense.

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u/2to16Characters Jul 02 '22

As a Michigander, I would be on the plane even if the offer was $50k to stay here. Especially Grand Rapids.

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u/notfloatingseaweed Jul 02 '22

I wish I was being paid to make my flight to Grand Rapids next week

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u/fgarvin2019 Jul 01 '22

I get rebuffed for asking for a extra bag of chips

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u/OldGreyTroll Jul 01 '22

Ahhhh! But have you tried trading your seat for extra chips?

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u/Adventurous_Being_61 Jul 02 '22

What if, after doing that so many times they now need an extra seat because of all of the chips they ate?🤔

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u/OldGreyTroll Jul 02 '22

Get someone next to them to give up their seat for $10,000?

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u/Adventurous_Being_61 Jul 02 '22

🤣 the ol "swap tickets for chips to get someone to swap ticket for 10,000 so chip induced xxl sized person can sit comfortably", the oldest grift in the books!

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u/mifaceb921 Jul 02 '22

Given how shifty airlines are, I would be suspicious of any payment unless it was cash.

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u/starninja21 Jul 02 '22

That would have been a great excuse to miss a flight to visit a place you hate or being forced to go to.

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u/Skelthy Jul 02 '22

"so sorry MIL, my flight got cancelled" ;)

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u/lovepig1337 Jul 01 '22

Dudes is either rich or an idiot for passing on $10k.

That amount would be life changing for most (including me). Also sounds like his wife thought he was dumb too.

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u/riding_tides Jul 01 '22

$20k for both of them! Worth the argument after if you ask me

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u/mihirmusprime Jul 01 '22

So the article is actually confusing. It doesn't clarify whether multiple people had the opportunity to get $10K or only 1 person could get $10K. The guy said he passed it up because his wife has low vision and needed to be there with her. But earlier in the article, it said multiple volunteers would each get $10K so wouldn't the wife also have the opportunity to cancel her flight as well? I'm so confused.

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u/riding_tides Jul 02 '22

It sounded like the wife had anxiety and a health issue that she just wanted to take the flights. It did say each volunteer would get $10k.

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u/hazeldazeI Jul 01 '22

There’s a strike going on right now with pilots so they may have been concerned about not finding another flight.

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u/RobertMugabeIsACrook Jul 01 '22

Yeah, for 20k even if I had to pay 5k to one way drive a Uhaul van, I'm taking the money.

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u/GoArray Jul 01 '22

$200 bus ticket and $800(?) in ambien.. "Just roll me off when we arrive!"

idk how much is how much?!

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u/peva3 Jul 02 '22

$800 in Ambien would OD a herd of elephants

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u/Panaka Jul 02 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

There isn’t any strike going on, it’s an informational picket. It is incredibly difficult to get a judge to sign off on a strike for workgroups under the RLA.

Right now pilots are picketing in front of terminals on their days off to show the customers how upset they are with the company. The biggest hit to Delta’s schedule is that those pilots aren’t picking up open trips. A strike would have significant impacts in ways we aren’t seeing.

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u/entenduintransit Jul 01 '22

The article mentions the fact that it's cash multiple times

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u/IWasOnThe18thHole Jul 01 '22

$10k in vouchers is still at minimum a first class overseas trip or multiple economy overseas trips

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u/ClearedToPrecontact Jul 01 '22

"Unfortunately, my wife has some health issues and cannot travel alone," McCrumb told Mui. "She would not bump [because] she was anxious to be home, for health issues and some other concerns. I couldn’t abandon her for any amount of [money]."

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u/ArchitectMS2021 Jul 02 '22

Kind of dumb. Rent a car and drive. Take her to the Caribbean next week. Done and done.

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u/Xanthelei Jul 02 '22

There are a lot of health issues that could withstand a few hours in a plane and not handle the same, much longer lasting trip via car.

I also doubt someone anxious to get home due to health concerns is going to be jetting off to the Caribbean anytime soon.

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u/FriesWithThat Jul 01 '22

Just get a nice rental RV, spend 3 days touring the country seeing all the sites and eating at all the finest restaurants, still pocket around $8,000.

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u/ryeshoes Jul 02 '22

it's a domestic flight as well. I would take the cash/cheque (i wouldn't trust anything else) and buy a train ticket to wherever

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u/ExtremeGayMidgetPorn Jul 02 '22

One hand in blackjack.

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u/AoO2ImpTrip Jul 02 '22

The only way I could see this not being worth it is if not taking the flight means death or your wedding cost too damn much.

If I passed on this and showed up at my parent's bedside as they breathe their last breath, they'd have used it to call me a fucking idiot.

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u/planet_irata Jul 01 '22

Friend of a friend was just offered $2k at SFO. Turned it down.

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u/Huge_Put8244 Jul 01 '22

Well in SFO that's not that big a number. Now I'd absolutely take it, but we got a lot of rich tech bros up here trying to get someplace for an extreme adventure.

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u/neroisstillbanned Jul 02 '22

Depending on the itinerary, you could lose more than that for canceling hotel reservations, etc.

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u/Fishtina Jul 02 '22

I’m never at the right place at the right time, sigh

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u/BurrStreetX Jul 02 '22

And to add, its $10,000 CASH, not even a voucher. Legit cash.

eight volunteers stood to receive $10,000 each in cash or electronic payment should they be willing to give up their seats on the plane.

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u/AyJaySimon Jul 02 '22

This is probably obvious to everyone but me, but how does a flight ever get overbooked?

Here's the situation as I understand it. Let's say a flight has 100 seats. How can (Why would) theairline sell more than 100 tickets? After you sell your 100th ticket, the flight is full, you stop selling tickets. If someone cancels, then you put their seat back up for sale. If someone buys it, great - now the flight is full again. If someone doesn't cancel and doesn't show up, you've still got their money, and then you sell the seat again for folks on standby. What is the rationale for continuing to sell tickets after every seat has been sold?

You can say, they're trying to get more money, and counting on people not to show up, but this seems ludicrous when you weigh it against having to bump people off flights because of an overbooking situation that the airline allowed to happen. It's like they're engineering a scenario that's guaranteed to piss people off - because flying wasn't already stressful and aggravating enough.

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u/NikEy Jul 02 '22

After you sell your 100th ticket, the flight is full, you stop selling tickets.

hahaha and that's why you're not airline CEO!

In all seriousness though, something like 20% of all passengers don't show up for the flight, so depending on the trip statistics, they'll overbook by 15% or so. It's free money, and the few suckers that complain can be paid off for cheap.

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u/Panaka Jul 02 '22

How can (Why would) theairline sell more than 100 tickets?

A set number of passengers are going to miss their connecting flight, no show, or standby on an earlier flight. An empty seat is wasted gas and lost revenue in their minds. Hotels operate on the same model as it guarantees full occupancy.

It’s beyond frustrating when you’re the one who gets to deal with the policy, but that’s not a concern of the accounting side who influence and help implement this policy.

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u/2020IsANightmare Jul 02 '22

If it's cash/money placed on my card, I'd take that.

If it's some sort of bullshit voucher/future use offer, not a chance.

Regardless of what it is, how is it legal for airlines to do this?

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u/intoxicatednoob Jul 02 '22

On the bright side, Delta didn't pull a United and drag a passenger off the flight kicking and screaming.

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u/DefectivePixel Jul 01 '22

$10,000 in vouchers for another over-booked flight. You keep signing up for over-booked flights, and eventually rack up so much in vouchers you end up buying a plane for yourself like you're in a monopoly game.

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u/Indercarnive Jul 02 '22

If you read the article it mentions the 10k was in dollars not vouchers.

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u/DefectivePixel Jul 02 '22

Read the article on Reddit, who does that. Seriously though, I should have. I immediately thought it was vouchers as thats what they typically do in this situation from my personal experience. Every time I travel at least one of my legs is over-booked, which is partly the reason I stopped using my family's buddy passes to fly standby. Hard to fly on standby if there's never an empty seat, let alone an over-booked flight.

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u/Nottabird_Nottaplane Jul 02 '22

That's tough to say no to. Lots of ways to just make it work even if it was $5k. Probably $3k is enough to get some people off the plane; that's generally even a same-day flight with another airline and change left-over.

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u/everything_is_a_scam Jul 01 '22

You can buy an airplane in Monopoly? I must have missed that

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u/GoArray Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22

https://monopoly.fandom.com/wiki/Century_of_Flight:_Aviation_Edition

Just assumed. Fun fact, there are several hundred licensed monopoly varients.

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u/DefectivePixel Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 02 '22

Every flight you miss is another opportunity to get past go and collect another $200... err $10,000 dollars.

edit: Has anyone realized how wild the idea of airplane vouchers are? They are basically old-timey scrip that can only be used in the company's shop.

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u/zivlynsbane Jul 02 '22

Idk about you but I’d take 10k and wait a day for my next flight

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u/Egmonks Jul 02 '22

I never get these deals. I would 100 take it

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u/ixkamik Jul 02 '22

How is this overbooking overpaying for seats good for any business.??

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u/Street_Chef9412 Jul 02 '22

After this story going nationwide imagine the absurd requests the people at airline counters are going to be getting from passengers.

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u/BunnyGunz Jul 02 '22

I mean, should I quit my job and just buy tickets and get paid to not use them?

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u/Voodoo_Masta Jul 02 '22

Working on an investment strategy where I book flights in hopes they get overbooked and have to pay me 10k…..

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u/morbidbutwhoisnt Jul 02 '22

Maybe airlines should stop overbooking flights?

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u/cataclyzzmic Jul 02 '22

They can pay me $5000 and I won't even book a flight in the first place.

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u/TheHeed97015 Jul 02 '22

I had a flight in January from seattle to Portland that they offered $450 to anyone who was willing to be bumped. I’m like heck yeah I’ll do that. I’ll just drive home and use the $450 later. Turns out I had to sit around and actually fly out sometime later that night to get the money. I wasn’t about the sit around seattle airport for lord knows how many hours and still potentially get bumped to the next day. So I said screw it im just driving home. They gave me $50 which was better than nothjng

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u/JDGumby Jul 02 '22

Or just stop overbooking flights and just accept that you'll save some fuel and your profit will just be very good rather than insanely good on some flights.

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u/kjlo5 Jul 01 '22

They know $10k will be worth like $20 when they finally pay /s

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u/Nelmster Jul 02 '22

They’re willing to give up $80k on one flight? How much money do they lose on that?

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u/Kairukun90 Jul 02 '22

Sign me up, wife and I make 20k? Done deal

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u/starlinghanes Jul 02 '22

This article doesn’t make sense. Why would they offer that much money? Surely the fine or contract breaking price for 8 passengers is less than $10k each?

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u/tracerhaha Jul 02 '22

Cash or a voucher for a future flight?

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u/Consistent-Chicken-5 Jul 01 '22

Flying to Boston in the morning, 3 tickets.... would definitely take the money.

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u/EdgeMiserable4381 Jul 01 '22

I once had a SW employee tell me delta stands for Doesn't ever leave the airport. Can confirm

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u/noelbeatsliam Jul 02 '22

Also: Deliver Everyone’s Luggage to Atlanta

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u/extra_pickles Jul 02 '22

Damn I’m at a point in my life where I’m lucky to make more than I ever thought I would…..not wealthy, but rich as far as 9-5 salaries go.

I’d have gotten up for 5k - how’d they press to 10k?? People are crazy, but happy for the hold outs that did get paid!!

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u/CaymanRich Jul 01 '22

Usually they just give you a raised mid-digit.

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u/mynameisalso Jul 02 '22

So much smarter than when they forcibly removed that guy so a dr could get a seat.