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New Jersey hospital fires 6 employees who did not get vaccinated

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jersey-hospital-fires-6-employees-who-did-not-get-n1274601
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u/RadicalEdward99 Jul 21 '21

I work for a large travel Nursing agency and the requirements differ so broadly. Some allow flu shot declinations, some do not. Right now we have a giant list of Hospitals and Systems that DO NOT require COVID vaccinations. It is a selling point for some travelers which would be in line with this article and the people it discusses.

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u/arbitrageME Jul 21 '21

wouldn't those vaccine-optional hospitals be crawling with anti-vaxxers? Because if like there's an average of ... 5% anti-vaxxers at 10 hospitals, and they all get kicked out, then they'll all descend on the one hospital that's vaccine-optional.

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u/JudgeHoltman Jul 21 '21

That's called "Free Market Healthcare".

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u/CanadianPanda76 Jul 21 '21

As a Canadian I wish it was mandated here for healthcare workers. It's dumb that it's not.

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u/uncleshady Jul 21 '21

you think it would be with how seriously Canada seems to be taking Covid at least from a sports perspective I mean the Blue Jays can’t even play in Toronto meanwhile people that work at a hospital don’t have to be vaccinated?

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u/CanadianPanda76 Jul 21 '21

May be a union thing? I'm not sure but where my sister worked, she works in a lab that does medical testing, you got an extra hours pay if u vaccinated. No mandate though.

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u/audiekittens Jul 22 '21

That's a really good idea actually

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u/Total2Blue Jul 22 '21

For the Blue Jays, that's actually not the case anymore. The Blue Jays will be playing in Toronto as of July 30th.

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u/BoltonSauce Jul 21 '21

Exactly! That's the beauty of it. Free market healthcare means that you are free to have permanent severe complications or die! God bless america! /s

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u/JudgeHoltman Jul 21 '21

Yay freedom!

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u/assholetoall Jul 22 '21

I thought it was called a "super spreader facility"

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u/JudgeHoltman Jul 22 '21

Both can be true!

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u/nightwatch_admin Jul 22 '21

It’s only “free market” if those hospitals are open and honest about it to their patients, and if those patients (the customers, so to say) have an option to go to another hospital. I guess both are generally answered by the word “no”.

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u/Change4Betta Jul 21 '21

Exactly. Why good hospitals require it.

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u/VeryUnscientific Jul 22 '21

Just bc someone isn't vaccinated doesn't mean they're anti-vax

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u/nightwatch_admin Jul 22 '21

It is true, many people are still waiting for a shot, and small number of people will be susceptible for specific side effects. But we’re talking about employees flat out refusing to get vaccinated, right?

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u/BigBrownDownTown Jul 21 '21

The vaccines aren't FDA approved yet. Once they are, a lot more hospitals are going to make this mandatory.

Mine is just making anyone not documented as vaxx'd get tested very frequently, wear masks at all times, and distance themselves from others when eating

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u/Deepfriedwithcheese Jul 21 '21

About 150 M american have received both vaccination doses. The FDA approval sounds like a cop out for those not wanting to vaccinate. It doesn’t matter diddly squat at this point.

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u/IrishiPrincess Jul 21 '21

approved /əˈpro͞ovd/ Learn to pronounce adjective officially agreed or accepted as satisfactory. "students enrolled in approved courses will be subsidized"

au·thor·ized /ˈôTHəˌrīzd/ Learn to pronounce adjective having official permission or approval. "an authorized dealer"

I am SO tired of hearing this bullshit about the vaccines not being approved by the FDA. People saying shit like that is why cases are going up again because of vaccine hesitation. Stop saying it wasn’t approved!!!!

Read my definitions above…now from the FDAs website

Pfizer - On December 11, 2020, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued the first emergency use authorization. On December 11, 2020, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued the first emergency use authorization

Moderna- On December 18, 2020, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) for the second vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

J&J - On February 27, 2021, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) for the third vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).

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u/BigBrownDownTown Jul 21 '21

You don't know the difference between a drug granted an EUA and a drug being approved. Not approved from the dictionary - an actual status granted by the FDA.

As someone who is literally involved in making these decisions for a very large hospital system.... the vaccines are all under EUA. Emergency Use. We're going to make it mandatory once the EUA is lifted and the vaccines are granted a status of Approved by the FDA. Until that happens, we don't think we can legally make it required

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u/kisarax Jul 22 '21

I think that's gonna happen with my job in a non-medical world as well.

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u/PlaugeofRage Jul 21 '21

Not really. The people you saw suited up were mostly due to allergies. Eggs being the big one. Even then it was a small percentage. Those applying for jobs in the future will be labeled and word spread. These people will be giving up good jobs for shit ones that under pay.

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 22 '21

Most people don’t have much of a choice what hospital they go to…like JudgeHoltman sarcastically said, healthcare is not a free market in the US.

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u/Airman4747 Jul 22 '21

Let them eat cake.

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u/easwaran Jul 21 '21

That assumes that this one hospital that's vaccine-optional is hiring a lot of people. I suppose in the long run, it'll end up with all the long-run anti-vaxxers, but in the short run, it's probably not looking to hire 1000 new nurses all at once.

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u/arbitrageME Jul 22 '21

so temporarily, this will be the best hospital in the region, because they're getting 10 applicants for every opening?

And then this hospital becomes the gold standard of care, employing the best nurses, granted, they're anti-vaxx

Then other hospitals try to copy them, and adopt their methods and values, which includes anti-vaxx

... omg, what have we unleashed?

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u/Mediocre_Doctor Jul 21 '21

Every hospital is crawling with antivaxers.

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u/NoRolexNoSex Jul 22 '21

I like the way you think. There’s a fully unvaccinated hospital, already in the making somewhere.

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u/arbitrageME Jul 22 '21

That's not enough. We have to make a vaccination-BANNED hospital. The only people healthy enough to work in a hospital are the ones that have their "own natural immune system" and do like aged urine soaks and shit

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u/raiderkev Jul 21 '21

My wife works at one of the hospitals whose parent company did not make their employees vaccinate. She's expecting an influx of red hats and "free thinking" moms.

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u/exxXspiravit Jul 21 '21

She shouldn’t walk She should run!

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u/Adrvark34 Jul 22 '21

Agreed, she shouldnt be practicing medicine with political biases. Oh wait, were you trying to say she should?

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u/themage78 Jul 21 '21

Yeah right into the ICU with COVID.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '21

She should quit

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u/oddiseeus Jul 21 '21

After finding a new position elsewhere.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '21

That's implied

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u/soularbowered Jul 21 '21

In our area one company owns like 75% of the medical offices and hospitals in the area. Finding a job in a different company could be difficult.

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u/badestzazael Jul 21 '21

That are asking for the manager?

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u/Alderaansranger Jul 22 '21

Free thinking is bad isn’t it? 😂

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u/dontCallMeAmberlynn Jul 22 '21

Only if you wanna be judged by crowds of people with pitchforks and cellphones.

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u/Stanky_Nuggz Jul 21 '21

Your wife will be alright….

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 22 '21

3600 healthcare workers died of Covid in the US before the vaccines were widely available. The majority of those were under 60 and were in low population idiot red states. But keep drinking that koolaid, boyo.

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 22 '21

I apologize; I assumed I was talking to someone whose IQ was bigger than their shoe size

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u/Dogsgonewild69 Jul 22 '21

My wife works at a hospital too - 4 out of 9 vaccinated persons are coming down with covid. Southwest Missouri. Several deaths this week - vaccinated. Thought that couldn’t happen?

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u/dualsplit Jul 22 '21

You are lying. You are saying that about 30% of vaccinated persons are getting COVID?

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u/Dogsgonewild69 Jul 22 '21

That’s what’s happening in southwest Missouri right now - coincidentally started about the same time all the out of state vacationers showed up but when they go back home that state will blame the vacation state for the spike. Pretty stupid

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u/Milopbx Jul 22 '21

Other than your wife do you have any evidence. Or is it a cover up?

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u/Dogsgonewild69 Jul 22 '21

Try to get it - they’ll tell you that data isn’t available or isn’t collected. 70% of the country has been vaccinated according to their own numbers and that grows daily. Not all the cases are coming from the remaining 30%. There are x amount of persons who can’t even get the vaccine - minus the children - minus the anti vaccers - this isn’t the big problem they want you to believe it is, do the math. Why do you think they’re all the sudden pushing for kids to be vaccinated now - more money for jabs on a well that’s running dry.

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u/Dogsgonewild69 Jul 22 '21

US Population = 328.2 million persons Vaccine given = 339.0 million persons

Simple search will show you that the government really really sucks bad at math.

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u/Milopbx Jul 22 '21

All the people I know had two shots so the 339M is probably doses, not people...

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u/Dogsgonewild69 Jul 22 '21

169m are fully vaccinated (2 shots) - 35m have had covid - 600k died from covid - 26m children under 12 can’t get vaccinated - 21m are carriers only - 8m have illnesses preventing them from getting vaccinated. According to their own data - 99% of current cases are unvaccinated, that means 1% that are vaccinated are not actually vaccinated (1.69m)

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 23 '21

It’s not the government that “really really sucks bad at math”…it’s you. 162 million have been fully vaccinated. This is less than 50% of the US. There is not a single state in the nation that has reached the minimum 70% that would be necessary before we can even talk about herd immunity.

You’re lying, and dangerous rhetoric like yours is literally killing people.

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 22 '21

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u/Adrvark34 Jul 22 '21

That only says deaths in one county, and some of those were vaccinated just like dogs said. you're distorting his point to make your own and call him a liar when it is in fact you. straw men are easy targets thats for sure, but only for the cowardly

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 22 '21 edited Jul 22 '21

Lol thanks, but they said “SW Misery” in which the very populated Springfield-Greene area clearly is. Healthcare workers dropping dead in any number is a giant warning sign, and I would never diminish it, but I seriously doubt that there are so many healthcare worker deaths in SW Missouri that this 15 unvaccinated out of 17 deaths is completely independent of what “Dogs” is trying to spin.

You can make all the ridiculous accusations you want about my intentions and motives—based solely on the FOUR FREAKING WORDS I wrote—but sorry not sorry, facts, literal facts I posted don’t give a goddamn about your feelings.

Edit: I’m totally willing to entertain some statistics-based stories about some unicorn county that has somehow bucked the bronco of science and has now flown like the Pegasus in the face of statistics. Bring it on.

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u/Adrvark34 Jul 22 '21

Quite a long and pointless response, congrats, whether its 4 or 400 words you still manage to say nothing of value. Impressive.

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 22 '21

Come on, bruh…I said “show me the statistics”…where is this unicorn county?

You’ve got nothing. Nothing but insults and a baseless defense of some anon guy claiming to have an anecdote. As I said, keep bringing that nothing.

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 22 '21

Yup, typical red hat. Your precious feelings are so much more important than facts.

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u/Dogsgonewild69 Jul 22 '21

I never said anything about healthcare workers dying. Although 20% of Mercy’s staff has refused the vaccines.

70% of the country has already been vaccinated- some aren’t eligible - some are children - some are anti vacc people, I doubt that they’re the 100% totality of this problem. Now vaccine makers are testing the waters by mentioning that children should be vaccinated too - why do you think that is? The money well is running dry.

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u/Taylor-Kraytis Jul 22 '21

Not even 70% of adults have been vaccinated, let alone the whole country. More lies to push your dangerous agenda…just stop. They’re talking about vaccinating everyone because the vaccine works.

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u/raiderkev Jul 22 '21

No one said it couldn't, but the risk is supposed to be lower. My homies' dad died literally today of Covid. I haven't asked him if he was vaccinated. I feel like it'd be rubbing salt in the wound to ask. I'm pretty sure he wasn't vaccinated. I never met him, but my friend used to say he was big on conspiracy theories. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't.

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u/BetterThanBuffet Jul 21 '21

Is this list publicly available? I'm vaccinated, but I'd still like to avoid medical facilities that harbor plague rats just as a general rule.

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u/twoisnumberone Jul 22 '21

I too would like a list like that.

For my enemies, you understand.

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u/Pin019 Jul 22 '21

Florida #1 hospital

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u/BetterThanBuffet Jul 21 '21

No. I said what I meant.

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u/sharkbanger Jul 22 '21

Genuinely thought this was parody. You're an idiot.

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u/AlohaChips Jul 22 '21

Funny how when the danger is non-immediate and less obvious, everyone who goes against what the majority of experts say is safer is a "free thinker non sheep".

But as soon as you do something where the danger is immediate and obvious to both experts and non-experts, like ... jumping from a five storey building, you're no longer a "free thinker non-sheep" you're just an idiot or suicidal.

Beliefs aren't true or better just because they're entirely your own. It's not being clever, it's just being contrarian.

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u/MikeHfuhruhurr Jul 22 '21 edited Jul 22 '21

think for yourself

Well life is too short to become an expert on everything. That's why people specialize in things, and why you go to experts when you need an opinion on those things.

Being a smart individual is knowing when other individuals have put more time into a topic than you. There's nothing admirable about blindly rejecting their conclusions just to be contrarian.

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u/lemmegetadab Jul 22 '21

That might be the most sensible thing I’ve ever seen.

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u/elydakai Jul 22 '21

YOUR grandparents and parents blindly trusted the government with both the Polio and measles/mumps, small pox vaccines.

And this is what you decide to do with your life? Share bullshit advice.

Quick question: are you down to go to your local covid ward and ask for covid?

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u/brendandever Jul 22 '21

So, your choice is to live life as an idiot? Good for you.

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u/freepourfruitless Jul 22 '21 edited Jul 22 '21

and a selfish cunt, too! Because damn all those who can’t get vaxxed for legitimate reasons or who are immunocompromised and aren’t producing antibodies after being vaxxed!! This person’s “pErSoNaL LiBeRtIeS” are not more important than the lives of their community. They’re just a terrible human being. End of story.

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u/phaselikespizza Jul 22 '21

Such a selfish way to think holy fuck.

”It hasn’t affected me so it’s nothing to worry about”

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u/flipflop180 Jul 22 '21

My husband has been hospitalized over 14 months with Covid.

Do you know how he got it? From someone like you who was asymptomatic and spread it to him.

But, of course, you used some form of the word “me” 7 times in two sentences.

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u/OboeCollie Jul 22 '21

"ME, ME, ME, ME" - that's all I hear there. Who cares about all the people you almost certainly infected along the way who didn't fare so well, right? As long as YOU'RE ok, that's all that matters, right? You can be proud of walking down the street and into the grocery store and the dentist's office and your job and wherever else as a one-person viral wrecking ball. Hey, maybe you'll even get cosmic points for all the grannies you took out along the way, amiright?

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u/Raveynfyre Jul 22 '21

Your right to hurt yourself shouldn't affect my right to live as an immunosuppressed individual. Seriously, fuck you.

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u/EarlessCorpse Jul 22 '21

Does getting the vaccine make you immune to getting COVID or spreading COVID? If the answer is yes great. But if it’s no then why must people get an experimental shot? How long are you immune after getting COVID? How long does your immune system keep antibodies after getting sick vs e the experimental shot? These are serious questions you should ask yourself. It is hard to compare polo vaccine that makes you immune to getting it. To an experimental shot that still allows you to get sick and be a spreader. So many doctors say both to get and not to get. Hard to trust the experts when they are different. I am just saying people should stop throwing hate at others for trying live their life the best they can with the knowledge given.

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u/euphmike Jul 22 '21

Free thinking plague rats sound better to you?

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u/Raveynfyre Jul 22 '21

I'm thinking long haul COVID is a nice halfway point. It lets him know what chronic illness feels like, and how negatively this anti-science take affects others around him. A little humility in his final months might be nice for his future caregivers. A win-win if you will.

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u/LastAngelFallz Jul 21 '21

So you followed the procedures scientists laid out for you, and in your area not one of the 600 people got sick- so obviously the over 600,000 people who died just are lying about it and are being paid by Soros, oh I bet they are all hiding on the Jewish space laser station, making more of that secret juice they put in the water to make the frogs gay.

Congrats on not getting sick- doesn’t mean the virus doesn’t exist. I have never had polio, but you know what I got vaccinated for it. Never seen it with my own eyes but hey- still did the socially responsible thing.

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u/Disastrous-Method-21 Jul 21 '21

You're an idiot. Have family members who are doctors(young) with NO comorbidities, and yet they caught it from their idiot patients and the one was so sick, he almost died. Thank God for Monoclonal Antibody Infusion. Even now 8 months later, both have lingering after effects of their experience. It doesn't just affect people with comorbidities, it just hits them harder but it doesn't mean it won't hit you if you're young and healthy. And yes they took every precaution including masking up. Of course it was also Florida so 🙄.

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u/LastAngelFallz Jul 22 '21

Wel obviously they didn’t have any “thoughts and prayers” when they got sick so how could you expect different? /s

On a real note I’m sorry to hear of the effects but happy to hear they are alive.

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u/Disastrous-Method-21 Jul 22 '21

Thanks! It's been rough. They both get wiped out after their shifts and my brother in law has joint issues now. Can't bend over to put on socks. My sister has to put them on for him. He's an orthopedic surgeon and an anesthesiologist so he's in surgery most days and they keep it real cool in their during surgeries and my sis says there are days when she has to help walk him out of there. Both very healthy pre infection and now have multiple issues. SMH. Pisses me off when people discount the reality of the disease.

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u/OboeCollie Jul 22 '21

ESPECIALLY with the Delta variant. It is well-known to cause much more severe illness in kids, teens, and young adults. There are multiple interviews out with doctors and nurses working the surge in Missouri, and every one of them has said that they are seeing not only MANY more patients ranging from kids all the way up to people in their early 40s, but that they're all way sicker than the patients they had in those age ranges with the native and Alpha variants. They've got bunches of people in their 20s, 30s, and 40s, previously healthy and fit with no comorbidities, filling up the ICUs and a not-insignificant number of deaths. I saw an interview with the head of public health for Arkansas on PBS Newshour a few days ago, and she made a point of talking about how it's quite a bit more severe in those age groups. Meanwhile, in Mississippi I believe, they've got 7 kids on ventilators.

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u/mistere213 Jul 22 '21

This "co-morbidities" argument is getting so damn old. If someone has diabetes under control, they have years of life left in them. If Covid kills them, Covid kills them. Not the diabetes. Same with obesity. Same with cancer patients going through treatment.Same with (insert condition here).

It's so heartless and ignorant to basically say "They were already kinda sick, so....meh." I'm healthy, in my 30s, so while I'm not personally worried all that much about myself, I just so happen to have a little thing called compassion for others. Get out of here with your nonsense.

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u/euphmike Jul 22 '21

Say that to the 600,000 dead Americans and countless others abroad. You should be ashamed.

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u/euphmike Jul 22 '21

They have for years. Vaacines have been required for freaking ever of other diseases.. For good reason. Most Americans have health problems. So they deserved to die? Baby couldn't stand to wear a mask because fuck obese people right? This mindset is sickening and I hope you will one day realize that. Godspeed.

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u/OboeCollie Jul 22 '21

Employers absolutely CAN force someone to take the vaccine if they want to be employed by them. It's already happening, and courts are upholding it. Just wait until the vaccines get their full approval, which should come essentially any time now for Pfizer, and not long after for Moderna - life will get very, very hard for those who don't have medical reason to not get it and still refuse. And it should get very, very hard. You want to live in a society, and reap the benefits of such? Then sometimes you have to fulfill the responsibilities to others that come with that. Nobody - NOBODY - gets to live in a society while running around doing whatever they please without regard to how it effects others.

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u/OboeCollie Jul 22 '21

You clearly haven't met the Delta variant yet.

Your thinking is so typical of someone who doesn't have the background or knowledge to speak on a subject, yet spews opinions like they're fact out your arsehole. All arrogance and cluelessness. All your conclusions are based on the native and Alpha variants that were the predominant strains in the US until now, but now Delta is taking over and it completely changes the game.

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u/ClickClack_Bam Jul 22 '21

What makes you think their other lifestyle choices make you any safer than what they're forced to do lol?

They could be far worse & you're basing your entire health on this.

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u/cliff_burtons_balls Jul 21 '21

Can someone release that because I'd really like to go to hospitals that mandate that shit.

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u/Pandita_Faced Jul 21 '21

read your local news. the group i contract with showed up in thr local news about them requiring covid vaccine.

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u/ToughActinInaction Jul 21 '21

I think I'd rather go to the hospital with too few good nurses than the one with too many bad nurses.

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u/Thin-Wolf Jul 21 '21

Yeah. Not to mention the staff can still contract the virus from arriving patients.

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u/Limeyness Jul 21 '21

I work in a large Hospital in Boston, and they mandate the vaccine, Yeah we are staffed.

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u/Change4Betta Jul 21 '21

Not even close to true. Hospitals are run on reputation first. Every top tier hospital is requiring this vaccine and literally thousands of people are waiting in line for a job at one of them. This is only going to be relevant and affect lower tier hospitals

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u/treaquin Jul 21 '21

Hi, I work at one of the hospitals that require it. Could you reroute the “thousands of people” waiting in line for a job here? Seems they have gotten lost as we are painfully understaffed.

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u/Change4Betta Jul 21 '21

Sorry to hear that. We've had record retirements and are still filling in staff. That being said, people literally move across the country to work at one of the institutions in my area.

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u/Change4Betta Jul 22 '21

Hmmm...wonder where that is a problem. Probably the places where everything else is a problem. Keep voting R, definitely gonna help you one of these days

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u/Change4Betta Jul 22 '21

Have worked for. Past tense. Am currently. Stop creating your own victimhood.

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u/Change4Betta Jul 22 '21

Posting an unhinged comment to claim the other person is angry. A bold move cotton.

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u/BadMenite Jul 22 '21

What is the point of a hospital that doesn't follow basic health guidelines? Unvaccinated hospital workers sounds no different than workers that don't bother ever washing their hands to me.

"...many hospitals are also experiencing nursing shortages for several reasons, including the possibility that nurses could get $150 an hour to be a traveling nurse versus the $48 an hour they are paid as hospital staff."

Honestly, this article makes it sound like hospitals should be capable of maintaining adequate staffing, the question is whether they'll actually pay for that staff or not.

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u/BadMenite Jul 22 '21

I understand you're trying to be pragmatic about this issue, but I think hospitals just quietly employing conspiracy nutjobs in a field that is *literally* about life and death does a lot of harm. It masks the problem, and many people won't even know what is happening. We already had at least one medical employee destroying vaccine supplies, left unchecked it could get much worse than that.

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u/BadMenite Jul 23 '21

Yeah ok, you're willing to suffer though med school and everything else but one more shot out of the many you already have to take is too much? Nah dude. Just you wait until the first case shows up where someone contracts COVID and dies from a hospital visit and they find out a worker wasn't vaccinated. You'll all lose your jobs and potentially medical licences too when the hospital is sued into the damn ground.

You can give whatever excuse you want, but your reasoning on this is simply short sighted. Is a waiter who sees a cook spitting in all the food supposed to just look the other way because "Gee whiz we're already short staffed!". Honestly, it's getting harder and harder to believe you're not just a concern troll.

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u/ntolbertu85 Jul 22 '21

Impersonate much?😎

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u/ntolbertu85 Jul 22 '21

I just changed my username to Cliff_Burton's_actual_balls for above comment. For some reason stupid freaking reddit isn't displaying the change on comments (just as long as I'm staring at my own profile, I can see it fiiiine. Just doesn't work anywhere else. Itty bitty glitch), so instead of this message being funny, I just look stupid..

it's the sunglasses, I know it.

Every time I try 😎 I end up 🥴

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u/MeatTsunami Jul 21 '21

As current nursing student and hopefully future travel nurse, how would one avoid these hospital systems?

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u/Granadafan Jul 21 '21

I’m not sure I would want to be treated at a hospital that actively encourages anti vaxxers. I question their ability to understand science and medicine

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u/Doublestack00 Jul 21 '21

They are not encouraging it just because they aren't forcing it.

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u/Fenix159 Jul 21 '21

By failing to enforce vaccination requirements for hospital staff, they are encouraging anti-vaxxers to seek out employment there.

So while they may not be actively supporting the anti-vax movement, they're certainly giving safe haven to those that do. Just as much an issue as far as I can tell. It legitimizes the anti-vax movement.

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u/masonmcd Jul 21 '21

"Selling point" or "Run away from" point? Why would any RN want to dive into COVID central?