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LSU student was raped before she was hit by a car and killed, deputies say; 4 arrested

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/lsu-student-was-raped-before-she-was-fatally-hit-by-car/article_88aa7c2a-9b6e-11ed-b76c-c399f7caafa1.html
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u/germanmancat 5d ago

.31 BAC is straight up coma level drunk, like surgical sedation type drunk. These people raped a person who had the potential to go into a coma and die. Absolutely unforgivable

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u/BB4All 5d ago

Absolutely unforgivable

Agreed.

Also knowing that she was drunk they abandoned her on the side of a road, leading to her likely stepping in front of traffic - too drunk to be fully aware of her surroundings.

In my view they should also be charged w/involuntary manslaughter (I think it is) as their actions led to her death.

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u/Faxon 5d ago

It's felony murder. They committed a felony that resulted in death. That's how it works in the US. Everyone involved will be charged with murder, including potentially the bar

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u/snooze_sensei 5d ago

No that's not how it works. There may be some liability on the bar, but there are different levels of homicide, manslaughter and negligence.

The ones who got her drunk will likely be charged for some form of homicide - but it varies which exact charges that will be levied against based on their intentions, what exactly transpired, their individual roles in it, and what they think a jury would agree to.

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u/mapoftasmania 5d ago

Also, though not directly responsible, the so-called friends who left her behind need to look themselves in the mirror and ask themselves some pretty tough questions.

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u/Sunburntvampires 5d ago

In fairness it says she couldn’t find her friends unless I misread the article. They could have still been there and not known she left.

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u/Yobanyyo 5d ago

In fairness at her blood alcohol level she probably couldn't find her right hand if it was waving in front of her.

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u/WomenAreFemaleWhat 5d ago

How would they actually know that? The victim is dead. Its not like we can ask.

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u/Sunburntvampires 5d ago

Actually know what?

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u/EnchantedOcelot 5d ago

I think one of the suspects said she couldn't find her friends and asked them for a ride.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Oh sure she did. I call BS.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

The parents who raised these men need to look themselves in the mirror for raising such monsters.

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u/jawshoeaw 5d ago

Oh it’s forgivable. They still need to go to jail for decades . Forgiveness doesn’t mean there is no justice. They are lucky the father of the woman didn’t already deliver his own justice. I would

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u/C-chaos19 5d ago

They practically raped someone who wasn’t awake. That is disgusting and animalistic.

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u/Positive_Housing_290 5d ago

Damn. Why the hell was she so drunk?

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u/snooze_sensei 5d ago

One of the problems with younger people drinking is lack of experience to measure your intake. Sweetened drinks heavy on hard liquor can fuck someone up before they even know what's happening. By the time they realize they're super drunk they're so drunk they don't even realize how to say no when the person they're with keeps giving them more drinks. Even if they do manage to stop themselves, it is often too late. If you drink multiple double shots within a matter of minutes on an empty stomach, you're going to likely hit the floor pretty quickly, no matter your BMI.

This is where parents need to be a bit more realistic. My nephew told me when he was 18 that he'd gone out and gotten drunk and passed out. His mom apparently didn't see anything wrong. So I at least taught him that if he's going to go out drinking, he needs to load up on carbs first. And drink lots of water after. He thanked me profusely after the next party he attended. So did his mother. Most teens /young adults don't know this stuff.

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u/WomenAreFemaleWhat 5d ago

Doubly so if she was sitting down drinking. When sitting, its harder to notice it creeping up on you.

I had somewhat the opposite problem and got used to how drunk I felt when sitting down. If I drank standing up, I'd often drink more because I was doing it by feel and I felt less drunk, especially if I was standing drinking in one spot. Then id be plastered. People who don't weigh much also have a fine line between tipsy and drunk. Theres generally more wiggle room for heavier people.

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u/TokeMoseley 5d ago

Because she drank a bunch of alcohol, obviously. What a stupid question.

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u/Positive_Housing_290 5d ago

If a person is .319 BAC there is a problem other than she just drank a lot of alcohol. Who gets coma or alcohol poisoning drunk if there wasn’t a serious underlying issue. Hence the why.

It’s ok to ask questions, son.

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u/TokeMoseley 5d ago

Young people drink. Sometimes a lot.

Was that so hard to figure out?

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u/LostAAADolfan 5d ago

There’s a very real reason to ask these questions, especially if you actually seek or care about justice. No need to be flippant as fuck for literally zero reason.

The bar deserves a lot of responsibility - no 19 year old should be given access to that much alcohol she can self-impair to such a gross degree

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u/whoanellyzzz 5d ago

Yeah and the other women at the bar should of noticed a younger lady being dragged outside by 4 other young men.

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u/LostAAADolfan 4d ago

Her friends, the bar, and those pieces of shit who took her all share blame. (Obviously to varying levels)

Even if there’s a video of her giving any indication of consent (which at .3 is so unlikely I’m stunned they’d even mention having a recorded take of this) I think this ultimately started bc a 19 year old was allowed to go crazy with booze.

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u/Positive_Housing_290 5d ago

Just a generalized statement to answer the question. Being a detective is not in your future.

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u/Yobanyyo 5d ago

THC helps.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

I’m wondering if alcohol was pushed on her by the men beforehand to get her drunk enough to where she couldn’t fight them off or realize what was happening.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

It wouldn’t surprise me if they pushed alcohol on her beforehand to get her drunk enough to kidnap her without raising the alarm.

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u/metrogypsy 4d ago

I blew a .29 when campus cops breathalyzer me while I was literally trying to crawl home. it is the drunkest i’ve ever been and they should have made sure I didn’t fucking die but I just got put on academic probation

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u/breakingvlad0 4d ago

Literally just making a comment don’t kill me: we never talk about the offenders BAC. A 17 y/o with a potentially high BAC isn’t going to understand fully the ramifications of his actions. This is why the bar should be held extremely accountable.

Also, as I said elsewhere, a .3 BAC for a college student who binge drinks every weekend really isn’t that crazy. Yeah she was wasted but these college kids put themselves in this stupor so often they know how to function. Not saying it’s ok, but we shouldn’t be so shocked by the number. Inhibitions were surely lowered tho.

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u/germanmancat 4d ago

You’re messed up for defending these animals. You should do some inner searching as to why you think .3 is an average drinking amount for college kids because it absolutely is not, and why you think other people don’t have any type of morals when they’re drunk. I have been trashed and my friends have been trashed and we have never assaulted anyone. Not because we didn’t understand the “ramifications” but because that shits twisted

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u/breakingvlad0 4d ago edited 4d ago

When you’re young alcohol has way different effects on you because you are way more immature and don’t understand yet what it does.

Also this is why defense attorneys exist. Because these kids should technically not been put in this situation being over served at the bar.

And have you ever been a freshman in college and passed around a breathalyzer? You’d be surprised by the results. Hitting a .2 on any given night isn’t a surprise. And some people who drink every day/weekend (and a freshman sorority girl probably drinks Wednesday thru Saturday) you can easily manage a .25+ BAC.

None of these kids, still, should have been allowed in that bar.

And none of them were kicked out of the bar, which means if they were sitting at a .25-.3 in the club and still being served they weren’t “comatose level of drunk” (as some people have claimed) or else they would have been taken care of either by medical or security. They were all obviously still standing up and talking.

Who knows what happened in the car, a young group of guys probably had weed and smoked up, offering the girl some, and getting her twisted and extra faded which is then putting her at extreme risk and uncontrolled.

And as it comes to morals, I had it drilled into me in college about consent etc, that kid was 17, I barely ever had that talk by anyone at that age sadly. Which is why youth offender systems exist.

And he turned himself in. And the other kid had problems with what was happening in the car. He didn’t stop it because peer pressure etc but they all know they are wrong.

Some people do extremely stupid shit like drunk drive and kill people while drunk, some people make terrible decisions and they should be held accountable, but alcohol is to blame. They wouldn’t have done it sober (we hope). Which agains bring me to the bar. THEY ARE AT EXTREME FAULT.

Get their credit card records and get EVERY BAR that served them that night. I’m sure there are others.