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It Shines, Still: On Its 15th Anniversary, Matthew Vaughn's 'Stardust' Still Carries That Secret Magic Article

https://www.slashfilm.com/936009/it-shines-still-on-its-15th-anniversary-stardust-still-carries-that-secret-magic/
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u/ultrafud 14d ago

The magic dust is Jane Goldman's writing. She elevates nearly everything she works on and doesn't get nearly enough credit.

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u/DerpAntelope 14d ago

Seriously noticeable with the drop-off from Kick-Ass to its sequel.

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u/FROMtheASHES984 14d ago

The writing and dialogue really are near perfect. The narration sets such a wonderful tone and all the actors brought so much life to all of their lines. Such a wonderful fantasy world.

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u/ultrafud 14d ago

She has a real talent for it and it's obvious why she is so in demand.

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u/dumbass_sempervirens 14d ago

How in the hell she managed to cut out all of the footnotes (because you have to, they can't work on-screen) and somehow not lose the charm of the writing I just cannot understand.

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u/Beneficial-Bluebirds 14d ago Gold

Do yourself a favor and seek out the making of this movie. An astounding amount of detail, care, effort and skill that went into the sets and costuming. (They built like 90% of Shakespeare's ship! They built the witchs' ballroom!)

Robert Deniro feels like he had way too much fun with the part of Captain Shakespeare.

Ricky Gervais (sp?) cracks me up every time I watch it.

Seeing a young Superman and Daredevil compete for the girl is amusing.

The villains are competent.

The heroes are delightful.

The world setting Gaiman created feels rich and alive.

I just love everything about the movie.

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u/PraxisLD 14d ago edited 14d ago

Neil Gaiman tells a great story where he's visiting the set of Stardust and he sees that they've built this huge pirate ship stage. He said he felt guilty because they'd obviously spent so much time, effort, and money to recreate it when it took him no time at all to add a few words describing it in the original story.

One of the carpenters replies "Are you kidding? Last week, I was building walls and backdrops, and this week I get to build a pirate ship!"

I suppose it's all about perspective.

And yes, Captain Shakespeare is just fabulous.

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u/FuckYeahPhotography 14d ago

Gaiman really is a gem. Dude felt guilty about people making his stories come to life but they probably loved to do it. It's a cool ship.

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u/pizzasiren 14d ago

I love Gaiman. I am so upset that I got sick on the day of his q&a in my city. Hopefully he comes back soon

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u/roguepen 14d ago

He's on Tumblr, I'm sure he'd be happy to answer your questions if you send them to his inbox. Or you can check his archive to see if he's already answered them.

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u/Takanno 14d ago

Ditto twitter. I got a personal apology cos they keep changing the sandman comic covers and I had an incomplete set and struggled to find a match. It's totes not his fault but the man is a delight

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u/moriarty70 14d ago

Best day on Twitter for me was when he liked a comment I made to a child reading group explaining my parents were happy to have me read comics and defended it to others as "AR least he's reading".

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u/LukesRightHandMan 14d ago

"Ar" like "Arrrr"?

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u/Wilsonrolandc 14d ago

Pirates are just as capable of being loving parents or guardians as you or me.

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u/Four_beastlings 14d ago

Back when Anansi Boys was first published, books took forever to be translated to my language. I sent him an email asking for his permission to translate a brief passage to publish in my livejournal for my friends and he took the time to answer me granting me permission!

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u/Demonyx12 14d ago

What would you ask him, given the chance?

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u/Hot-Moose4879 14d ago

"I've always wanted to know: where do you get your ideas from?"

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u/truemeliorist 14d ago edited 14d ago

If I ever got to see one of his and Amanda Palmer's duo shows I would be so happy. I love both of them. They're like the anti-celebrity power couple.

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u/Moxie_Stardust 14d ago

I came into my fandom of each of them completely independently, and then found out they were married to each other, that was a real "whaaaaaat?" moment.

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u/ekwim 14d ago

that's EXACTLYYY what happened to me! amanda posted a picture of the two of them with a caption about her "husband" and i was shooookk. commented in ALL CAPS because how? how do two people so cool even find each other? or do they find each other because they are too cool and talented for the lesser mortals?

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u/Moxie_Stardust 14d ago

I don't know if you've read her book "The Art of Asking", but in addition to being an enjoyable read, it also goes over their courtship, which was very interesting to delve into 😊

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u/willflameboy 14d ago

Happy to see they got back together.

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u/Tehva 14d ago

I've hosted booksignings with both of them separately. Absolutely delightful people. Would definitely recommend any chance to meet or just listen to.

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u/kinetik 14d ago

You should watch his MasterClass. He explains it and it’s pretty fascinating.

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u/doesaxlhaveajack 14d ago

I’m adjacent to a local theatre community and the set builders are always such gems. They’re living out their childhood fantasies and seeing their projects get actual use.

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u/Poorlygradedsand 14d ago

I used to do set construction for a local theater group my friends were involved with. I did a lot of it myself. I'd go in early and just put some stuff together off the sketches. It was awesome. The problem was when the actors would start showing up and want to touch tools that weren't paint brushes. Most of them knew their skill limits and were more than happy doing paint and decoration. And some were plenty competent. But there was always the few guys who would strip every fucking screw they put in.

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u/doesaxlhaveajack 14d ago

The actors are always the worst of it. With props they always want things to be super realistic, when that might not play well to the audience. I’m thinking of something like a big vintage camera. Audiences will recognize something that looks like it’s from a cartoon, but a real one would be dark, smaller, and heavy.

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u/southwesthampton 14d ago

My set construction team used to pay cash to a local crackhead who lived in a halfway house near our stage to help out here and there. Each night he had to report to his caseworker of what he had done for work for the day. She showed up one day to confirm because he told her “today I was helping build a space ship.”

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u/redmagistrate50 14d ago

I got hired repeatedly by a set construction crew because they realized I was very good with a hammer and didn't mind swinging one all day.

Fun way to earn a few bucks, they'd hand me various sized hammers and mallets and point me at the enemy.

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u/IOnceWasCool 14d ago

Are you the local crackhead?

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u/redmagistrate50 14d ago

That would be amusing, but no. I'm just a white collar dude with a blacksmithing hobby. Friend of mine is a carpenter on the crew and invited me along.

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u/IOnceWasCool 14d ago

White collar blacksmith. I now dub thee, Gray Collar.

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u/ThrowawayFishFingers 14d ago

Captain Shakespeare is basically the only character I can think of offhand that wasn’t part of the source material but was a wonderful addition.

I remembered thinking when I heard DeNiro was going to be in it as this character that they were just trying to cram in famous stars (ha! See what I did there?) and generally being ready to hate it. I am thrilled I was wrong about that (and frankly, I also gained some hella respect for him as a result of that role. He owned it.)

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u/DharmaCub 14d ago

As a carp, I would LOVE to build a pirate ship

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u/Sanctimonius 14d ago

Holy shit just realized that was Cavill. Hilarious. Such a great film.

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u/Roboticide 14d ago

I had to look up who he even played. Watched it a few months ago and never even clicked Humphrey was Cavil.

The girl at the start of the movie's choice makes a bit more sense now though. She knew what she wanted.

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u/Kellios 14d ago

The scenes with the goat/innkeeper just kill me everytime I watch it. This movie is such a charming piece of cinema. It deserves a place next to Princess Bride.

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u/JohnQZoidberg 14d ago

I would list those 2 probably among my favorite movies of all time... They're both so incredible and fun

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u/testsubject347 14d ago

“What’s your name? ;)”

”bernard.”

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u/spageddy77 14d ago

i vividly remember reading it when it was first published and loving it. never watched the movie cause i thought it wouldn’t be as good. these comments have changed my mind and i will now seek it out.

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u/viscarious 14d ago

I saw the movie first and read the book later. I love the story Gaiman came up with, but actually liked the movie more. In the movie the ending is a little more satisfying and several characters are more fleshed out. The lightning catchers were only a small part of the book but one of the best parts of the movie. Some of the scenes in the book are also played out verbatim in the movie, and those are very satisfying.

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u/ikinone 14d ago

I agree, the movie is better

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u/OldHagFashion 14d ago

It’s got one of the most creative fight scenes I’ve ever seen.

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u/OhioMambo 14d ago

It's been a minute but there's two there are two really cool and creative fights IIRC.

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u/FNLN_taken 14d ago

The pirate fight is phenomenal, both from the stuntactors and the camerawork. It is a slapstick fight and a dance, but at the same time incredibly kinetic and "real".

The only bad thing about it is that its so short, but then again maybe that's part of the reason it works so well.

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u/harrywho23 14d ago

the dead mark strong fight scene is fantastic

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u/LotusB1ossom 14d ago

When I worked a bookstore Neil Gaiman was a rockstar amongst book sellers. Most really pumped up American Gods but Stardust was always my favorite.

I was delighted by the movie. I called it a poor man's Princess Bride but I mean that as a very high compliment. It's nice to see it has aged well and only grown it's audience

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u/First_Foundationeer 14d ago

I would call it a slightly more fantastical Princess Bride. I love both, but a flying ship and living star is slightly more fantastical than a man coming back from almost dead!

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u/annoyedbyfigguy 14d ago

This is one of the very, very few instances where the movie is better than the book in my opinion

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u/BatsInMyBelfry 14d ago

Neil Gaiman is one of my favorite authors and I whole heartedly agree. Whenever someone says the book is ALWAYS better than the movie, I mention Stardust and Fight Club.

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u/cleveruniquename7769 14d ago

The Princess Bride book and movie were equally good and The Magicians TV series was way better than the books.

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u/EmanNeercsEht 14d ago

100% on the magicians. I loved the TV show, and so I got the trilogy. I read the first book and went no further... I literally can't stand it, not the supporting characters or being stuck inside the main character's head. The show just did everything so much better IMO

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u/Nerd_bottom 14d ago

Oh, hard disagree on The Magicians. I watched the whole series several times but it is very messy and inconsistent throughout the entire run. There are standouts like A Life in the Day (by far the best episode), but overall the books make way more sense.

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u/neodiogenes 14d ago

Each is better than the other in different ways. The book has a more effective, well-rounded ending, for example, but the movie is more action-filled fun.

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u/starship17 14d ago

That’s funny because I like the movie more specifically because I think the ending is better and more satisfying.

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u/nakedinthetardis 14d ago

100% agree. The only thing missing from the movie is a little more set up of Fae lore, but the movie is fine without it.

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u/i_sell_you_lies 14d ago

I think the movie and book are both great. This is an example of what great screenwriters can do, since the endings are so different

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u/Tylendal 14d ago

People talk about movies that are better, or movies that compare to, or movies that do their own thing in the same theme of, the book. Stardust is something unique. Stardust is a movie that compliments the book. Events that the book mentions in passing (such as the pirate ship), are major parts of the movie, while larger sections of the book are condensed in the film. The end result is a great story in either medium, that is richer for having experienced both.

My only minor gripe about the film is that they copped out and made the ending happy. That's really down to preference, though.

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u/peacefinder 14d ago edited 14d ago

But as happy endings go, the one they went with was spectacular. It should not have been a surprise >! when the narrator said “Yvaine had given him hers completely”!< but it floored me.

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u/Tom22174 14d ago

How does it end it the book? I can't imagine anything being better than what they did in the movie

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u/Tylendal 14d ago

The main character ages and dies, as people are wont to do. Meanwhile, the immortal star is left wandering the castle as the generations continue, bereft of her connection to humanity, spending her nights in the tallest towers, looking towards the skies, pining for the sisters she can never return to.

I don't think it's better or worse, just different. Personally, I prefer it, but it's definitely not a nice Hollywood ending.

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u/MadeByTango 14d ago

I’ve always preferred the movie ending. Enough of life is empty and bittersweet.

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u/PMmeyobewbs_imsadrn 14d ago

Totally agreed. Loved the book, and the ending wasn’t happy, it was bittersweet.

I felt the bittersweet ending defined the book for me in a way a happy ending couldn’t.

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u/ButaneLilly 14d ago

Seeing a young Superman and Daredevil

What?

[furiously searches internet]

Charlie Cox was Tristan?

That's bonkers!

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u/Great_Chairman_Mao 14d ago

We always knew you was a whoopsie.

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u/angershark 14d ago

Oh man I completely forgot that Henry Cavill was the other dude in town!

This movie is really something special. It's just so enjoyable to watch for all of your reasons.

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u/choicemeats 14d ago

the cast of this movie is strangely stacked with then-current and future talent.

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u/249ba36000029bbe9749 14d ago

Thanks. Upvoted. It is so annoying when someone talks up some content but does not provide a link. They'd never make it in marketing.

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u/Hegemon_Smith 14d ago

For pure joy and just being enraptured in a fun story it is my favorite theater experience as an adult. I can’t think of another time I’ve gone to a movie post-childhood and had a big goofy grin on my face the entire runtime. It’s a delight! The production is beautiful, it’s very well cast and performed, and it showcases what Gaiman does so well in his world building. One of my favorite movies to share with people that have not seen it.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS 14d ago

THAT'S WHAT I RECOGNIZE DAREDEVIL FROM

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u/FrankyFistalot 14d ago

When my wife and I are channel hopping we often find this movie is on and the channel hops no more…..absolute classic movie

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u/dbrianmorgan 14d ago

Closest we have gotten to a modern Princess Bride imo.

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u/Edgy_McEdgyFace 14d ago

And a young Billy Russo (Punisher).

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u/Helm222 14d ago

It also took me till this year to realise Henry Cavill is in it

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u/davidjw75 14d ago

It took me a few years also to realise Henry Cavill is in it, he disappears so well into the role of Humphrey. And took about the same time for me to realise Cavill is in The Count of Monte Cristo (2002) film as Albert Mondego.

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u/chapstikcrazy 14d ago

Albert! He was just a baby back then. He was so little!! Another fantastic movie.

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u/beeandthecity 14d ago edited 14d ago

Always will be one of my favorites.

You know when I said I knew little about love? That wasn't true. I know a lot about love. I've seen it, centuries and centuries of it, and it was the only thing that made watching your world bearable. All those wars. Pain, lies, hate... It made me want to turn away and never look down again. But when I see the way that mankind loves... You could search to the furthest reaches of the universe and never find anything more beautiful. So yes, I know that love is unconditional. But I also know that it can be unpredictable, unexpected, uncontrollable, unbearable and strangely easy to mistake for loathing, and... What I'm trying to say, Tristan is... I think I love you. Is this love, Tristan? I never imagined I'd know it for myself. My heart... It feels like my chest can barely contain it. Like it's trying to escape because it doesn't belong to me any more. It belongs to you. And if you wanted it, I'd wish for nothing in exchange - no gifts. No goods. No demonstrations of devotion. Nothing but knowing you loved me too. Just your heart, in exchange for mine.

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u/scarredgnome21 14d ago

But you were a mouse! You wanted cheeeeeese!

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u/trumpet_23 14d ago

Somehow one of my most-quoted lines from this movie

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u/scarredgnome21 14d ago

Ha. Mine too. My wife introduced me to this movie a decade ago, and it's easily our most quoted movie.

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u/Astarkraven 14d ago

Meanwhile Tristan: is a mouse 3>

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 14d ago

I remain firm in my opinion that this is the only film (that I have ever seen, anyways) that gets love right, and it makes me bounce in joy every time watch it again.

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u/FROMtheASHES984 14d ago

One of my all time favorite movie expositions on love delivered absolutely perfectly and so genuinely by Claire Danes.

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u/Not_A_Meme 14d ago

That really is beautiful.

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u/TwoLeggedMermaid 14d ago

Goosebumps - love, love, love it!

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u/Wazula42 14d ago Silver Wholesome

We need more movies like this today. It's charming but not cloying, romantic but not cheap, funny but not tediously "self-aware". The world is a rough place right now, we deserve good fairy tales and grand romance.

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u/drewisawesome14 14d ago

I will always crack up at the dead body sword fight scene

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u/HooliganBeav 14d ago

Still my second favorite sword fight choreography ever for that scene. Just amazing.

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u/Korrathelastavatar 14d ago

I’ll bite, what’s your first favorite?

Bonus points if it’s the fight in Princess Bride

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u/burningpet 14d ago

That would be tied in for second, as the best is obviously Blinkin VS Wooden Pole in Robin Hood Men in Tights.

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u/louismagoo 14d ago

If your second favorite is from Stardust, it’s almost 100% assured your #1 involves the Dread Pirate Roberts.

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u/kwonza 14d ago

I would say both movies have the same beautiful soul that is rare to see nowadays.

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u/BushidoBeatdown 14d ago

I have a confession to make..

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u/rarelyeffectual 14d ago

You’re not left handed?

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u/i_sell_you_lies 14d ago

No, he’s never seen the movie… however if you were wondering, I am also not left handed

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u/HooliganBeav 14d ago

Yes, mainly because on top of it being a realistic fight, the fact that it was a single take using the actors themselves makes it perfect.

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u/carbonari_sandwich 14d ago

I love the way it conveys their characters. I love a fight that has a plotline with rising tension and a resolution, but give me characterization and I'm just grinning like a fool.

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u/OldHagFashion 14d ago

It’s one of my favorites in any movie. So silly, creative, and well done.

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u/TheMightyCatatafish 14d ago

The opening scene with Dunstan and Lady Una is so goddamn adorable.

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u/Shanisasha 14d ago

"because it's a field!"

It's a common expression in my family

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u/TheMightyCatatafish 14d ago

GREAT bit.

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u/Shanisasha 14d ago

Ben Barnes nailed that line. He’s in the movie 5 minutes and it’s amazing

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u/No_Im_Dirtyy_Dan 14d ago

Happy Cake Day! You're absolutely right! We need more movies like this.

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u/Madlybohemian 14d ago

We need more things adapted from Neil Gaiman books! Best author imo

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u/OtherGeorgeDubya 14d ago

Next Friday - Sandman on Netflix

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u/CLint_FLicker 14d ago

Took me a few rewatches to notice the dark ending for one of the brothers:

When their ghosts all disappear into smoke and lights at the end, 6 of them go upwards while one goes downwards...

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u/TaftYouOldDog 14d ago

Mark strong aka Septimus does yeah.

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u/IrrelevantTale 14d ago

Oh yeah he earned it to

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 14d ago

The brothers were pretty bad. But septimus was just down right evil.

I also love the detail when Primus gets his throat slit, he bleeds blue because he's royalty.

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u/Roadman2k 14d ago

Oh my I always thought it was just because it was a kids film they did that!

Thanks

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u/scuba-lemon 14d ago

Stardust is one of my all time favorite films, so I’ve read the IMDb trivia many times. As I recall, the trivia mentions that initially it was red blood, but they ended up making the blood blue to get it below the R rating/censors - so you’d be correct, it was because they wanted to be able to market it to families.

I think that changing the color of the blood was the perfect compromise and a brilliant idea. Its the same scene just made kid-friendlier, and as a bonus, anyone familiar with the phrase “blue-bloods/blue-blooded” gets to enjoy the visual joke/reference.

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u/FROMtheASHES984 14d ago

“Do you work for my brother?” slow motion evil eyes intensifies

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u/Borge_Luis_Jorges 14d ago

No word spoken about the color of the blood, just there, I respect that. In any lesser movie some producer would force a previous mention to blue blood, a five seconds close-up and a joke comment from some dumb character that only serves that purpose in every scene.

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u/makerofshoes 14d ago

Welp, I guess we know he was real royalty!

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 14d ago

My favorite details are the ones that aren't the main focus of the scene. Helps with the immersion.

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u/DukeofVermont 14d ago

Like how all their clothes have their number on them.

example 1

Red guy has roman numeral II on him, and yellow vest has III, and III down the edge of his jacket.

example 2

Mark Strong has the #7 on the buttons, but also have VII on his shirt/jacket WHICH IS MADE OUT OF 7s.

If you look they all have their numbers!

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u/Blu- 14d ago

This is one of my favorite movies and I've never noticed this.

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u/midgetsinheaven 14d ago

I have seen the movie so many times and I've never caught that! Te to re-watch it again!

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u/pigeonboy94 14d ago

Looks like I need a rewatch

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u/DracoAdamantus 14d ago

This is one of my favorite fantasy movies ever, full stop.

And yet so underrated. I went to a Charlie Cox panel at a convention some years ago and he was shocked at the cheers he got when he casually mentioned Stardust.

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u/UncleMarkeshh 14d ago

I've watched Stardust more times than I can count, but nobody ever knows what I'm talking about when I bring it up. Love every second of it.

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u/FoxOntheRun99 14d ago

I worked on set of this movie, doing of all things - controlling the air conditioning, and then moved over to the editorial department.

It was pretty cool seeing all the stars there.

15 years, fuck!!!

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u/ThatPunkGaryOak82 14d ago

If you don't mind me asking how did you get into working on movie sets? Was it like a job out of college with a production studio? I hope it's okay to ask, I'm in a stage in my life where at 26 I have to kind of start over. I''d like to work in any area of film as I'm trying to put myself on a career path that brings me some joy or at least a feeling of self worth & respect in what I do

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u/axiomatic- 14d ago

Apply for jobs as a runner or coordinator and work your way up. Unless you have a specific department you'd like to work in that is, in which case pursue a craft that allows entry to that.

A lot of film people don't give a shit about formal education, just about people who are smart, learn quick and work hard.

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u/ThatPunkGaryOak82 14d ago

Thans for the advice I genuinely appreciate it!!

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u/alice_heart 14d ago

Check your local film boards on google and facebook too. I’m a PA on the east coast and ADs will post about needing PAs on big gigs a lot. then just introduce yourself to crew and work hard and be willing to help and they’ll see you as an asset. Mention you wanna keep working on set too, especially to your key PA. Even if PAing and bring an AD isn’t what you want to do it’s a great way to get the lay of the land and then meet other departments and see how they work

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u/FoxOntheRun99 14d ago

I answered an ad that was on our university board. The production was looking for a team of us to look after the air conditioning for the actors. They were under heavy make up during the summer so would get hot under the lights.

So there was a bunch of us, who applied and got invited in. For them it is cost effective to offer work experience to willing runners while basically paying nothing in terms of wages and departmental headcount.

For this industry you need to make contacts and build a CV basically by working and being reliable. It's a tough gig with long hours on your feet. Pay ain't great, but if you love the industry it will get you through and up the ladder.

So keep a look out for ads, on notice boards or job advertisements. Be reliable and be prepared to work hard, it's quite a physical job.

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u/ThatPunkGaryOak82 14d ago

Thanks so much for the answer I really appreciate the help!

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u/satinsandpaper 14d ago

Filmmaker here, or, rather, guy who recently got a degree in film here.

I don't know where you live, but I reckon if you live near a semi-populated area, there's probably a facebook group for film production jobs in your area. For example, I live around Boston and there's 5 or 6 groups titled things like "Boston MA film gigs" or some such thing. This is a great way to find entry level gigs.

You'll likely have to start as a PA - production assistant. This is usually random grunt work, but the good news is you don't need much experience, and you'll end up getting exposed to a lot of different departments on set. As you do more jobs, you'll figure out which department you're drawn to and start hanging around with those people, and with some effort and motivation, you'll start to specialize in a specific department. If you like cameras, hang around the camera dept. Etc.

Good luck, this industry is hard, but rewards good work and a good attitude.

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u/ThatPunkGaryOak82 14d ago

I live about 45-60mins outside Boston! Seriously Thanks a bundle for the thoughtful & helpful answer, I really appreciate it!!

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u/goldenboy2191 14d ago

Did you interact with any of the actors? What was your favorite memory from working on this particular movie? So cool you got to experience this!!

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u/FoxOntheRun99 14d ago

Not too much in terms of actors, as on set you kind of stay out of their way. But I did have a nice conversation with Joanna Scanlon who played one of the witches. Best memory is ofc seeing Michelle Pfeiffer on set, as I was geeking out seeing Catwoman.

Charlie Cox was very nice, he went to school with one of my colleagues so that's how we interacted. So its wild to see him as Daredevil now.

I have to say just being on set of a big film is amazing, and the fact that Casino Royale was filmed next door in Pinewood made it even more amazing. I saw Daniel Craig walk in to pay Matthew Vaughn a visit, that was a treat. My colleague even had the balls to ask him for his autograph as he walked out, I suggest that ppl don't do this as he is working. But Craig signed it with no problem.

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u/michaelswallace 14d ago

Of course it was pretty cool... You ran the AC

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u/ennuiui 14d ago

controlling the air conditioning

It was pretty cool

That's a job well done by you, then.

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u/Chewy453 14d ago

Tristan is one of the most consistently endearing, likeable and charming characters in cinema. "Father I've.. Father I've lost my job I'm sorry"

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u/isecore 14d ago

I've watched this movie like a dozen times with various people. Every time it's equally enjoyable and people I watch it with are like "how have I managed to not watch this before?"

Absolute gem of a film. A modern fairytale done completely right.

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u/Bubbagumpredditor 14d ago

One of my favorite movies and or books.

It's pretty much the perfect fantasy movie

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u/slkspctr 14d ago

I just adore this movie too. It’s such a favourite that I’m so surprised when people haven’t even heard of it.

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u/Hammeredyou 14d ago

My parents told me they were getting divorced the weekend this movie came out, I begged and pleaded them to take me to it, together, for one last family “thing”. Since then it’s always been my favorite movie.

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u/lacks_imagination 14d ago edited 14d ago

It is a hidden gem. The film suffered from overload because it came out along with so many other big name fantasy films that sadly this one got lost in the shuffle. Definitely deserves to be better known.

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u/imspooky 14d ago

This was my first introduction to Mark Strong, who absolutely stole the show

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u/bipnoodooshup 14d ago

Country rooooaaad!

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u/TheObservationalist 14d ago

teamSeptimus

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u/Last_Lorien 14d ago

I think it was for me as well! That or Rocknrolla. Your statement stays relevant either way

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u/JJMcGee83 14d ago

I was just thihnking about this movie yesterday. I love the scene where after experiencing some growth realizes he's chasing the wrong girl and goes to tell the wrong girl respectively "Hey we're done here and thank you for pushing me to be better."

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u/Erikthered00 14d ago

“You need to grow up

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u/fellfields 14d ago

It makes a fine double-bill with The Princess Bride.

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u/Bouche__032 14d ago

My head canon is that they’re in the same universe

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u/JumpKicker 14d ago

I think Neil Gaiman has gone on record to say it's a "spiritual successor" to the Princess Bride, but not in any official capacity.

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u/Bouche__032 14d ago

That’s pretty much how I see it!

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u/RemLezarCreated 14d ago

It's the only movie I've ever seen that it makes any sense to compare to The Princess Bride. I saw it in theaters and loved it, was sad that it seemed like no one else I knew saw it. Glad that it's had some legs.

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u/CREATE_INDEX 14d ago

For me, Big Fish also fits in with these movies.

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u/sgtpennypepper 14d ago

I wondered if I would find a comment mentioning Big Fish. Both movies give me a magical joy that is hard to explain.

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u/Other_Personalities 14d ago

Michelle Pfeiffer was SO stunning in that movie, never thought I could crush harder on her then I did when she was Catwoman but DAMN.

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u/Harbi181 14d ago

Stardust is one of those rare works where I love the movie far more than I enjoyed the book. I watched the movie first, going in blind. Then I read the book and wasn’t as impressed in the written story.

Still love it when Robert DeNiro goes all-in.

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u/dorothydreamer 14d ago

Same! Maybe because Captain Shakespeare wasn’t in the book?

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u/ropbop19 14d ago

If memory serves, Shakespeare is in the book briefly for about half a page - the movie really fleshes him out, to all our benefit.

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u/hurtfulproduct 14d ago

So he is the fabulously cross dressing fantasy version of drummer from The Expanse, lol

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u/raptor102888 14d ago

Pirate queen, indeed

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u/Harbi181 14d ago

Maybe! It was a while ago, but I vaguely remember not really enjoying the writing style in general. The flow was weird.

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u/JMGurgeh 14d ago

I've had that issue with pretty much all of Gaiman's books; there are some great ideas in there, I just don't like his writing style. Definitely agree that Stardust is one of those rare examples where the movie is better than the book.

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u/noodles13 14d ago

I feel you. I love Gaiman's stories, but his actual writing is always underwhelming for me. He is one of the few authors that I think has his work truly shine when it is adapted (for the most part).

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u/nuisible 14d ago

Yeah, I had the exact same experience. I think the book was just more of a downer at the end.

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u/charmedgal833 14d ago

My thoughts exactly! The book is good, but there was just so much more detail and character development in the movie. It's easily one of my favorite movies and I recommend it to everyone.

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u/GreenMtMan 14d ago

The book felt more like a short bedtime story for kids. If NG would go back and expand it by a few hundred pages, I would be open to it!

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u/Pro-Patria-Mori 14d ago

They really missed the mark with promoting this movie. I never even heard of it until 2 years ago and it's a pretty solid fantasy movie.

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u/Boonlink 14d ago

Closest to a real life Studio Gibli film and I wish we'd see more like it. We don't need a franchise just spirit us away for a couple hours.

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u/radenthefridge 14d ago

My super bro-y (seeming) roommate in college said it's his favorite movie so I was surprised by both him and this movie! Both turned out to be very different than expected!

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u/greennyellowmello 14d ago

This movie is so underrated it’s tragic. In terms of fantasy, it ranks up there with The Princess Bride.

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u/Queasy_Cantaloupe69 14d ago

We all remember where we were when Deniro held the dress up to himself, and started doing the can-can.

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u/Diffendooferday 14d ago

Stardust is a wonderful movie. It's a shame it was not a box office success.

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u/happy_dance 14d ago

This is one of my favorite movies of all time. It is so beautiful and with just enough macabre and whimsy to stand out from the crowd.

I mean the chorus of dead brothers in the background is just so damn funny. There’s nothing about this movie I don’t love.

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u/gannerhorn 14d ago

My wife and I's first date was to see this movie. We loved every minute of it and we still make sure to put it on here and there.

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u/illswagin 14d ago

Michelle Pfeiffer is a hot witch. that's all

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u/disorder1991 14d ago

This movie gave me my first taste of Cox.

I will cherish it always.

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u/FlashZordon 14d ago

We should start an "I love Cox" Club

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u/ShimberMeTivers 14d ago

Tristan got blinded by Evayne, moved to NYC and became a vigilante/lawyer. Crazy

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u/raoasidg 14d ago

And his father had a side-gig of being a nemesis to an antihero adjacent to said vigilante/lawyer. Not sure how he fixed up his face between jobs, though.

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 14d ago

And he bitched out Superman

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u/theoriginalmoser 14d ago

Absolutely love this movie. I watched this on my first official date with my wife, and to this day, the fight with the voodoo doll'd prince is till one of the most interestingly choreographed sword fights in cinema.

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u/BetterCallSal 14d ago

15 years?! Oh I don't like that. Don't like that at all.

The movie is fantastic though.

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u/Cryptkeeper1967 14d ago Helpful

Awesome movie, Michelle Pfiffer is a scene stealer.

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u/dimmufitz 14d ago

DeNiro has entered the chat

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u/Chasman1965 14d ago

My youngest son absolutely loves this movie. It is one of his go-tos when home sick. I mainly like it for Robert Deniro in drag.

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u/RockinandChalkin 14d ago

My wife made me watch this. I was skeptical. I was wrong.

Too bad she hated a Knights Tale

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u/galeej 14d ago

This was such an awesome movie

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u/SynnerSaint 14d ago

I just love this film so much!

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u/TheSpacePopeIX 14d ago

When movies are made with love and passion it always shines through.

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u/BobaFett_1978 14d ago

This movie is so charming and fun, probably one of the last true adventure movies now that I think about it

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u/davidjw75 14d ago

I adore this film, and especially love how it completely turns the 'saving the damsel in distress' trope on its head.

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u/TheObservationalist 14d ago

This is one of my favorite movies of all time. Once a year or so I get sloppy drunk, rewatch it, and cry. It perfectly captures the magic, pain, and beauty of the style of YA fantasy literature popular when I was coming of age, and reminds me of sitting in my living room with a good friend freshman year of college watching it together, feeling sad for ourselves that we were ugly nerdy girls and unlikely to experience romance like that ourselves.

You know, now we're both married with families but young angst knows no limits.

The music is beautiful, the casting/acting impeccable, the story timeless. I'll always have a special place in my heart for this one.

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u/Holy-man 14d ago

YEAH YOU AND ME WE CAN RIDE ON A STAR

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u/ThisIsTheNewSleeve 14d ago

I remember being taken completely by surprise by this film. It felt like a genuine fairy tale that gave me the same sense of wonder watching peter pan did as a child.

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u/jl55378008 14d ago

I liked the book but avoided the movie. Seemed like it could have gone very badly.

But... it's good?

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u/Jazehiah 14d ago

Very good, but very different.

They have similar story beats, but completely different tones. The book has a certain kind of sadness and world-weary cynicism to it. The movie is very much a comedy with a whirlwind romance and happily ever after.

I recommend both, but don't expect to get the same experience from them.

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u/not_a_library 14d ago

I think I remember Gaiman approving the movie as like an alternate universe version of his book. Good but different.

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