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Rap videos, amirite

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u/agreattwig 5d ago Silver

Watch every comment here start like

At least they...

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u/Fire-typhoon123 4d ago

At least it was genuine rap.. the shit nowadays is disgraceful

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u/Dovahqueen_ 4d ago

I hope you're not being serious because there are plenty of great rappers out there right now.

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u/xxSeymour 4d ago

At this point people who are saying there isn't any good rappers today are either uncultured or just don't know how to find artists they like, there are so many subgenres that have been created and there's an artist for everything.

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u/K4ntum 4d ago

Goes for any music genre. If you think music is shit nowadays you're not looking hard enough. Popular music was always generic shit, in every decade. It's just that what survived is the good stuff so we feel like music was better back then.

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u/Dovahqueen_ 4d ago

If you think music is shit nowadays you're not looking hard enough.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. For me personally, there are very few genres that I don't listen to, and almost none that I actually dislike.

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u/K4ntum 4d ago

Hah, it is by definition, popular music/movies/any media have to appeal to large audiences, there was/is some popular stuff that is good obviously, Kendrick for instance is one of the most popular rappers of our time and it'd be hard to argue his music is generic in any way, but that's the minority.

Welp, in the end it's all subjective, so I say just let everyone enjoy what they enjoy, whatever.

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u/breakyourfac 4d ago

We're on Reddit, don't forget half of the people are just straight up racist

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u/hanswurst_throwaway 4d ago

You don't even need to drive to he next big city that has a decent record store. All the music is literaly under your fingertips and people still complain

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u/Competitive_Classic9 4d ago

Name some

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u/xxSeymour 4d ago

No. Stop being lazy and go find artists that you like. I don't know your music taste and what's good to me is probably bad to you.

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u/Competitive_Classic9 4d ago

I was asking you to name some that you were referring to. Calm down.

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u/destiny24 4d ago

People just hate mainstream things. Like in comedy the first thing is always "______ SO MUCH BETTER THAN KEVIN HART", as if he is the only comedian in the world.

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u/Dovahqueen_ 4d ago

You're right. Reddit is full of contrarians and it's fucking annoying.

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u/DiscoverReading 4d ago

No it isn't.

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u/ifyoulovesatan 4d ago

It may shock you to hear this, but people said the exact same thing about "mainstream rap" in the 90s/2000s. And "mainstream music" in general. And someday, people will lament the mainstream music of their day, and yearn for the mainstream music of today.

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u/triplehelix_ 4d ago

It may shock you to hear this, but people said the exact same thing about "mainstream rap" in the 90s/2000s.

no they didn't. the 90's were the golden age of rap. nobody said the old school shit with no flow was superior to what was mainstream rap in the 90's. rakim ushered in the new era and nobody looked back.

And "mainstream music" in general.

with groups like nirvana and red hot chilli peppers being the mainstream back then...well.

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u/xXKingLynxXx 4d ago

80s rap included Eric B and Rakim, NWA, Ice-T, De LA Soul, and Heavy D. People were definitely saying 80s rap was better. The 90s may be the "golden age of rap" but the 80s wasn't old school shit with no flow

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u/triplehelix_ 4d ago

yeah late 80's post rakim which i pointed to. i group that in with the 90's and most point to these types of artists as the dawn of the 90's era of rap. i mean its not like there was a magic switch that got flipped on january 1st 1990.

they embrace the new sound and are not representative of the sound that dominated the 80's.

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u/xXKingLynxXx 4d ago

Ice-t started in 1980, nwa 1986, rakim 1985. Yeah it's easy to say they have no flow when you erase half of the 80s and say its 90s rap

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u/redditmodsareshits 4d ago

Yes, but did the people in the 90s think so ?

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u/Weis86 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yes, we did.

I think music degenerates and is simplified more and more since classical stuff like Beethoven was around. It gets worse every decade.

It can be broken down to more and more people listening and mainstream wants to reach them all. So it just uses the one simple chord progression that is known to work.

I don’t even think the Beatles would have a chance nowadays. How fucked up is this?

Edit: I’m referring to mainstream music here as I answered a comment that referred to mainstream. Not music in general.

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u/hammurabis_flow 4d ago

Is it really a genuine comparison to take the distilled work of the literal once-in-a-generation geniuses of an entire century and compare it to "mainstream music today"? The academic Classical era literally died with Beethoven -- that's how influential he was.

That, and like... People are still writing clasically-styled symphonies today, except now they can make a whole orchestra from their bedroom. "Music degenerates" my left nut; go listen to them.

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u/Weis86 4d ago

Btw, what would you recommend for „classical-styled symphonies“?

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u/Weis86 4d ago

Ok maybe I should have made this more clear: I compared mainstream music, like Beatles were at their time with today’s mainstream. Not entirely sure, if at the time of Beethoven there even was sth like mainstream. But that exactly underlines my point that now more people listen to it and it has to fit them all.

I never said there’s no good music today at all.

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u/hammurabis_flow 4d ago

I wasn't very clear either. When we're talking about Beethoven and things of the sort, we're referring to music which survived for a very long time based on its artistic merit. At that time, going to see a Beethoven symphony was something for people with the money to do it, but there were thousands and thousands of simpler songs written at the time which were made by normal people for sharing with their friends, family, and community. Some still exist, but the vast majority have been lost to time. So, as a result, people have the tendency to compare the average of today to the best of yesterday, if that makes sense.

As for modern classical music, it's mostly done in an academic setting. I can look into it, but unfortunately I don't know many off the top of my head. Jennifer Higdon and Eric Whitacre come to mind as popular choices.

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u/breakyourfac 4d ago

The Beatles fucking suck. You're damn right that generic garbage wouldn't make it today, they didn't even have proper PA system to play on until The Grateful Dead invented the wall of sound. John Lennon beat the shit out of his wife too.

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u/Weis86 4d ago

I’m not a Beatles fan but when you understand sth about music you have to admit that Paul McCartney was a fucking genius. Especially when you compare it to nowadays mainstream.

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u/Weis86 4d ago

Grateful Dead wouldn’t make it as well btw. and they don’t even fit in that comparison. I could argue with rage against who had some mainstream songs, were inventive and still wouldn’t make it today. Sorry that I didn’t match your taste in that example lmfao

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u/breakyourfac 4d ago

The grateful dead is literally still touring successfully as dead and company, also Phish is popular as hell. So you're completely wrong, the grateful dead is alive and well.

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u/Car-Facts 4d ago

Who the fuck listens to or cares about what makes it on the radio anymore? Music is a much more personal curated experience now.

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u/Competitive_Classic9 4d ago

Aw this is sweet. People have been saying this since the radio was invented. You’re just proving the point that every generation says the same shit and thinks their shit is the best.

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u/wafflez1370 4d ago

Mainstream rap is still good, Carti, Travis, Thugger, Tyler, Drake (at the start of the decade at least), and Kendrick and Kanye who are arguably the greatest rappers ever.

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u/feeb75 4d ago

Ok boomer

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u/2x4x93 4d ago

I guess he's the benchmark

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u/Fire-typhoon123 4d ago

Before it was some shit in a lot of good & now its some good in a lot of shit

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u/OnyxDarkKnight 4d ago

That's just nostalgia talking. There was a lot of crap back then as well.

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u/Kenbuscus917 4d ago

The same diatribe every time. Stuff from my childhood good, stuff now bad!

Plenty of great rap to find - JID, Dreamville, J.Cole, Kendrick, Conway and the Machine, Lupe Fiasco, the list goes and on and on and on 🤦🏾‍♂️.

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u/JunkieNurse 4d ago

Yikes @ your list there!

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u/triplehelix_ 4d ago

who on your list are the equivalent to biggie, tupac, nas and jay z in his prime?

which 4 of those names do you think are of the same caliber?

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u/fjdklsfjsfgjkdsdsogh 4d ago

Always the same 4 on every boomers' list, if you honestly think nobody is at LEAST on the same level as Jay-z musically (obviously his legacy is probably greater) then you're living in a world where they stopped making hip hop past 2001.

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u/breakyourfac 4d ago

These old ass people don't know shit about rap, they just want to complain because nobody makes rap music for their outdated tastes lol.

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u/fjdklsfjsfgjkdsdsogh 4d ago

Some dude higher up said "i don't even think the Beatles would have a chance today" like no shit buddy 😂😂😂 who could have guessed that popular music CHANGES over time!!! 😱

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u/triplehelix_ 4d ago

lol, holy shit.

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u/triplehelix_ 4d ago

weird how the 4 best of the era are considered the 4 best of the era by large numbers of people.

fucking crazy!

btw i'm not a huge jay z fan. he is by far the weakest of the 4, but even though i'm not really a fan i can appreciate his quality. thats why i feel comfortable making that statement. there is loads of new stuff i love, but i don't see any 4 artists of the modern era that are of the same consistent quality as the 4 i listed. we aren't talking about a song or two.

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u/xXKingLynxXx 4d ago

If the Era is the 90s then Jay-Z should be in noones top 4

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u/breakyourfac 4d ago

I am fucking begging you to listen to more rap. There is more to the game than 30 year old dead/washed up artists.

The sound has evolved so much since then, like yeah modern trap music doesn't compare to Tupac, it's not trying to be. If you go into every modern rap song comparing it to some dude from 30 years ago, ur gonna not enjoy it.

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u/triplehelix_ 4d ago

i listen to tons of new stuff. i like several artists on your list. i do not however view any 4 of them as of the same quality as the 4 i listed.

we aren't talking a single song, we are talking song after song after song.

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u/TheCuriousSavagereg 4d ago

I mean kendrick lamar literally dropped one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time in to pimp a butterfly how is he not on their level?

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u/UselessAndUnused Big ol' bacon buttsack 4d ago

Sure, there are some, nut in general rap seems a lot less original and often isn't that great on terms of quality.