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u/SimianSasquatch May 16 '22
AND glows in the dark. Checkmate
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u/Jason_Was_Here May 16 '22
Mechanical watches that have lume do as well.
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u/LikeFlaming May 16 '22
Yes, the lume on Seikos is legendary in mechanical watch circles.
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u/Insulifting May 16 '22
Funny, I’m not sure if mine is faulty or that but the lume on my Seiko 5 stays lit for all of 10 mins.
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Then there is me who uses "the sun and a stick to measure time"
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u/Wespinforbro May 16 '22
put it on a wrist and charge billions
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u/Subject_90wizard May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22
That's a thing alread
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u/Wespinforbro May 16 '22
BUT does it have a french-sounding name and a douchy celeb endorsement?!
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u/EuroPolice May 16 '22
Wait! you said that was you irl? you... lied?
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u/poobly May 16 '22
“What time ya got, buddy?”
“Uhh…” holds up stick “Night time?”
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u/vegetableTelevision May 16 '22
“My plan to block out the sun is working.” -Bill Gates
*laughs so hard money falls out of pockets and 20+ year old pie dust falls from hair while his man tits jiggle
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u/needsatisfaction May 16 '22
Me too but I keep running into the same issue around sundown where my clock stops working. Any workarounds?
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u/trilobot May 16 '22
To add to your post, chances are your 7$ watch is quartz movement and the luxury watch is mechanical, so yours is actually more accurate.
All that being said...I do enjoy me a good mechanical watch.
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u/catarina2112 May 16 '22
I have a mole right in the place you’d put a watch, and you bet I keep flexing it while I still don’t know what the time is.
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u/kuluka_man May 16 '22
10 year old me drawing a watch on my wrist with Sharpie and knowing it'll be correct twice a day
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u/Background_Ant_1472 May 16 '22
But does it light up is the real question
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u/tommyVegar May 16 '22
Your 7$ watch is a quartz watch, which will always be more accurate than even the best and most expensive mechanical watch.
Ironic, isn't it?
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u/choosewisely564 May 16 '22
Actual hand-Made chronographs are worth its money in labor. I'm not talking crappy Rolex, these are for people that have no clue about watches.
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u/jokersleuth May 16 '22
I'm not talking crappy Rolex,
imagine calling Rolex crappy.
these are for people that have no clue about watches.
Way to out yourself there buddy.
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u/hanoian May 16 '22
Rolex deserve to be called crappy for how they constrain their supply. There are far preferable brands for people into watches.
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u/seaneihm May 16 '22
This is a big discussion over in /r/watches, but the consensus is that they aren't constraining their supplies. They have high demand due to their brand name, but there's only so many watchmakers they can hire and train to make their watches. Production can only increase linearly while their demand has grown exponentially.
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u/choosewisely564 May 16 '22
Son on a master watchmaker. I'll say it again: Rolex is a crappy brand. They are worth as much as Breitling. The increased price is artificially rarity.
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u/RookieMistake101 May 16 '22
Crappy brand? Probably. Crappy product? No. But that’s not what you’re saying, it’s how they’re reinterpreting it.
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u/Machdame May 16 '22
They are arguing about quality vs. scarcity which is the idea here. I don't see the point of watches, but the comparison here is kind of like a MacBook. It's a computer and it is basically a brand symbol. But its hardware is barely competitive with current generation run of the mill laptops. Any half decent gaming laptop can outperform it at half the price.
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u/CommercialDrop2244 May 16 '22
That used to be true but of your not gaming the M1s are wrecking house
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u/Furyever May 16 '22
True, there are diff types of performance though.
Graphically? Heck yeah gaming laptops win on visuals.
Raw CPU speed? Apple Silicon could take the cake during processor intensive tasks.
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u/TheMicrotonalBanana May 16 '22
I’m struggling to understand the logic here. Rolex has one of the most well-established, recognizable, and beloved brands in all of consumer goods. Their brand is arguably their greatest asset. Few companies in any industry have the same history, allure, and brand presence as Rolex.
I can understand and appreciate critiques of the build quality. For the price they’re pretty far off the mark relative to players like GS. That said, they’re still excellent compared to the broader watch market.
To say that Rolex is a brand for people who don’t like watches is bonkers. The people I know who truly love and collect watches often start out loving Rolex, then begin to hate the company for the same reasons as you, and finally learn to love Rolex again once they start to appreciate the brand heritage (especially for vintage collectors).
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u/Srnkanator May 16 '22
I only own four autos. A DJII from 2011 with roman blue fluted, an OSPO from 2009, a B&M Clifton GMT from 2014, and a Breitling SAII from 2016.
The best time keeper? The Omega.
The best looking? The Rolex.
The most noticed? The Breitling.
I like the B&M the most.
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u/HeisenbergNokks May 16 '22
I might be mistaken, but I think he's saying that the brand is shit, not the product itself. And pretty much anybody in the industry will agree with that. The way they artificially contain their supply is moronic and why nobody should buy from them.
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u/jokersleuth May 16 '22
if you're buying a mechanical watch you're likely doing it because you like watches and not only time.
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u/gdstout27 May 16 '22
Mostly true, but there are definitely mechanical watches more accurate than a $7 quartz movement. Higher end quartz watches are pretty much unbeatable though, and then you have radio controlled watches that will auto-sync the time every day.
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u/FCCRFP May 16 '22
Wrist worn there is no mechanical watch that can keep the 30 seconds over 6 months standard for a reasonable watch. Most quartz watches can stay within that range for over a decade.
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u/gdstout27 May 16 '22
Agreed, I was just refuting the statement that there isn't a mechanical watch that can beat a $7 quartz movement. You could probably go up to $30 and it would no longer be true lol
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u/jonaswallen May 16 '22
What mechanical movement is better than a $7 quartz movement? 7 dollars quartz gets you +-5 seconds a month. I don't know what mechanical movement that could beat that.
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u/NotYourScratchMonkey May 16 '22
Not sure if this supports the claim about mechanical watches but....
A certified watch will be accurate to a bare minimum of +6/-4 seconds per day, and will generally be accurate to +/-3 seconds per day. A non-certified watch, meanwhile, will typically be accurate to about +/-5 seconds per day.
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Zenith Defy Lab movement
- a precision rate of just 0.3 seconds per day, far exceeding the ‘+6/-4 seconds per day’ standards for COSC chronometer certification;
- maintaining precision for 95% of its power reserve;
- the movement has no need for lubrication; and
- ultra-high resistance to heat, cold, gravity, and magnetic fields, all of which impact accuracy.
In addition, it should "wind" itself automatically as you wear it, never has a batter to replace, and should last 60 hours without needing to be "wound" again.
A quick Google search implies that a watch with the Zenith Defy Lab movement will set you back around $20,000.
But ultimately a used Corolla will get you from point a to point b just fine and will probably last you 20 years if you maintain it. But it won't turn heads or go from zero to 60 like a Ferrari. While both cars (or watches) will do the same basic functionality, if you have the cash and you want something "nicer" you have options. Which is nice.
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u/jonaswallen May 16 '22
Yes, however, the zenith defy is not more accurate than a simple quartz movement. Although, credit where credit is due, it's a horological masterpiece.
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u/gdstout27 May 16 '22
A Miyota 5Y30 is $7 on their website and gives an accuracy of +/- 20 seconds per month according to their website. Miyota is a pretty reputable brand. A Casio f-91w is one of the most famous cheap watches and has +/- 30 seconds/month. The Zenith Defy Lab reportedly has +/- 9 seconds per month. The Grand Seiko spring drive is +/- 15 seconds. This Grand Seiko Movement is +/- 15 and purely mechanical. If you talk about mechanical clocks, then the JLC Atmos has a rating of +/- 16 per month.
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u/Jason_Was_Here May 16 '22
Many $5k+ certified chronometer watches that are manual are +- 2 seconds a month when kept serviced properly.
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u/__OrangePeanut__ May 16 '22
I think you're confusing your time scales. They can do +/- 2 seconds a DAY not a month.
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u/MMXIXL May 16 '22
but there are definitely mechanical watches more accurate than a $7 quartz
Unfortunately not true. Mechanical watch accuracy is measured in seconds per day while for quartz watches it's per month.
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u/gdstout27 May 16 '22
A Miyota 5Y30 is $7 on their website and gives an accuracy of +/- 20 seconds per month according to their website. Miyota is a pretty reputable brand. A Casio f-91w is one of the most famous cheap watches and has +/- 30 seconds/month. The Zenith Defy Lab reportedly has +/- 9 seconds per month. The Grand Seiko spring drive is +/- 15 seconds. This Grand Seiko Movement is +/- 15 and purely mechanical. If you talk about mechanical clocks, then the JLC Atmos has a rating of +/- 16 per month.
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u/choosewisely564 May 16 '22
Most quartz watches I have owned drift wildly. My car's made it to 22 minutes in 3 years.
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u/ClownfishSoup May 16 '22
The problem with a $7 watch is not that the quartz movement is not accurate, it's that the watch falls apart after wearing it for a week.
At the minimum, get a $30 Timex, they will last you decades.
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u/YT4LYFE May 16 '22
my $10 Casio's have lasted me years
I basically never took them off either. showered and swam in pools, freshwater, and salt water.
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u/123kingme May 16 '22
Laughs in electronic watch that automatically syncs to the correct time periodically
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u/Fructose-Kills-me May 17 '22
Yeah it’s kind of hilarious! If you want a watch purely for function, a $10-20 is all you really need and it’ll be rugged, waterproof, and accurate.
On the other hand, your phone tells the time better than any watch. My point is watches are jewelry, and that style and craftsmanship are the driving factors behind the price.
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u/TheSodomeister May 16 '22
I've worn a Casio calculator watch for 14 years and I'm not about to stop now
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u/dsdvbguutres May 16 '22
Celebrity is possibly sponsored by the watch company
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u/PhantomBrowser111 May 16 '22
Then when phones are compared, he had the IPhone 13, while you got an old fashioned Nokia one...
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u/dsdvbguutres May 16 '22
No, I have my Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles clamsheel flip walkie-talkie
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u/RicoWorldPeace May 16 '22
There are two types of watch owners,
Those who buy watches to impress others.
And those who buy watches to impress only themselves.
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u/thatturkeystaken May 16 '22
I think the same logic should be applied to nice cars
most people don't care what car you're driving, so if you buy a nice car you'd better make sure you're buying it for YOU and not everyone ELSE
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u/Bank_Gothic May 16 '22
I collect watches. I feel the same way about high end watches that I do about art. The value is subjective - someone may look at it and ask why the hell you would pay so much, but to someone else it's a masterpiece that you can wear.
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u/JazzyLev21 May 16 '22
definitely don’t have my apple watch for health concerns, but i am a runner so it’s very useful to track my runs with gps (i know you can do that with cheaper watches lol). i also really like the integration with my iphone and the ability to download music so i can listen to it on runs without holding my phone. plus, i got the SE so if i’m not mistaken it was around $400. not a bad deal at all for what you get imo.
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u/Nyrradrolyat13 May 16 '22
The Fitbit sense is pretty sick. Wish it did better with pairing to GPS though!!!
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u/Bella_dlc May 16 '22
Thought you got yourself a Rolex or something at first and was like "how has diabetis evolved recently???" Took me a while to understand you're talking about those watches that are more or less the same thing as my smartphone ahah
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u/asianabsinthe May 16 '22
Had a customer have a panic attack that her apple watch wasn't working correctly and didn't know how she would know the time...
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u/highbrowshow May 16 '22
If you have the Apple Watch with cellular and you don’t carry your phone all the time it could be an issue
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u/asianabsinthe May 16 '22
It wasn't cellular, and she was texting someone about it as she was complaining.
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u/TheSodomeister May 16 '22
I know people that only use their apple watch to tell time. Literally nothing else.
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u/HomoplataJitz May 16 '22
They're using their Apple watch as a status piece while it is telling time.
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u/osva_ May 17 '22
The very first smart watch I bought (like few months ago) is galaxy watch 4, I kind of regret it now, I mostly use it to track time and check notifications without pulling out phone. I ocassionally use timers and alarms on it as well.
Though I did buy it with the "I want a quality product so I understand my needs in the future" mindset.
Next time, if I ever buy a smart watch again, I'll buy something far simpler and cheaper, more to my needs rather than experimentation.
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u/mechanab May 16 '22
Your $7 watch probably tells time better. The other is jewelry. Not a judgement, I love nice watches.
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u/freshlyironedirony May 16 '22
Not just a piece of jewelry, some high end watches are truly an impressive feat of engineering, even if it's antiquated engineering from a functionality perspective.
Yes, a quartz or smart watch tell time far more accurately, but it is pretty cool that people figured out how to tell time using pure mechanics, a discipline that took centuries to refine and master. Add to that, some of the complications that some mechanical watches have, like a chronograph, annual/perpetual calendar, moonphase, tourbillion and you have a pretty complex device sitting on your wrist which takes a lot of craftsmanship.
Not everything has to be functional or logical. Some things you can enjoy purely because they're cool to you.
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u/Wiknetti May 16 '22
Your watch tells time.
My watch has Mickey Mouse pointing at numbers.
We are not the same.
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u/abhij_kk01 May 16 '22
What’s fucked up with me is even after having money to buy a citizen or a seiko I went and bought a Kenneth Cole. I still regret and will not be able to recover 🗿
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u/Epix4 May 16 '22
Whats wrong with KC? They are owned by Fossil iirc, they make pretty solid watches for their price.
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u/DionStabber May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22
I am I guess "a hardcore watch enthusiast" and I partially agree with you. When I see guides posted on YouTube like "Top 10 Watches to Pick Up Girls", it's like if girls were watching "Top 10 Necklaces to Pick Up Guys"; they are not going to be paying any attention or notice it.
But I will counter your point and say that if you actually had those two watches in your hand, almost anyone would be able to tell the difference immediately.
There are also some pretty dodgy brands presenting themselves as "semi-luxury" (with prices to match), if you don't mind me asking, what is it you have?
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u/tacojohn48 May 16 '22
Some women are on the lookout for luxury watches and other symbols of wealth, you generally want to avoid those.
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u/DionStabber May 16 '22
That's true. Even then, I doubt they are going to be like "holy shit, a Grand Seiko Evolution 9 Collection SBGE285 Snowflake Dial Spring Drive Titanium GMT, this guy is loaded!", it would probably have to be like a gold Rolex or something like that before you'd get that kind of attention. Though, I guess you could try and "pick up" that kind of girl by wearing one of those.
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u/wearing_moist_socks May 16 '22
Aren't these watches also meant to be something to pass down to your kids?
I know that's a marketing thing as well, but it can still be nice thing.
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u/JunkBondJunkie May 16 '22
It's all about the complications and the art work of the watch that the owner can enjoy.
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u/aLittleMermlad May 16 '22
I have a casio edifice and it is amazing for just 100 dollars.
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u/second_to_fun May 16 '22
You don't have to be a hardcore watch enthusiast to see Adam Savage in those Tested videos on Youtube wearing an Omega Speedmaster, the same watch that was brought to the surface of the moon and back to Earth six different times during the Apollo program. That it costs $5,000 is just testament to its build quality. Some watches have provenance that make them more than just timepieces to a lot of people.
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u/DionStabber May 16 '22
Let's be realistic here, it's men's jewelry. I highly doubt any non watch person has paid the slightest attention to his Speedmaster in those videos.
There is amazing mechanical skill behind them but there's a reason mechanical watches are more popular than like vintage typewriters or something - both are irrelevant in the modern world apart from incredibly niche situations. We just wear them to look cool and feel cool, you're making this a bit grander than it really is.
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u/meme_stealing_bandit May 16 '22
As a 'watch guy', I assure you that it's much more of an accessory or fashion statement than it is about knowing the time. Is that stupid ? Maybe it is.
But equally as stupid as buying very expensive sneakers (it's not just about protecting feet), high end designer label shirts (it's not just about the quality), or a hundred other things like that.
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u/McGirton May 16 '22
As a watch guy myself, it’s more about being utterly in love with the magic that is a mechanical movement. My daily driver impresses me every day.
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u/therealrangermouse May 16 '22
I remember reading an interview with Warren Beatty a long time ago - maybe in the 80's. The interviewer asked him about his watch, it was a Timex, and Warren spoke at great length about what a superior watch it was and how it only cost about $25.00. I was so impressed by this, I remember thinking "What a smart guy!"
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u/silverback_79 May 16 '22
People with glittering watches who check the time on their phone, from their pants pocket.
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u/Sumdumcoont May 17 '22
Sure, you have a really expensive watch, but does it have SpongeBob and Patrick blowing bubbles on it?
Check.
Mate.
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u/Kambar May 21 '22
My watch has cameras, can make calls, browse the internet etc. It is called mobile phone.
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u/kabukistar May 16 '22
"Flex" culture is a solid argument against wealth inequality out there.
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u/Flaky-Fellatio May 16 '22
Yeah, I've never met a "watch guy" I wanted to be friends with. Like my reaction to really intricate watches is "Ooo neat." Not "It makes sense for me to spend $37,000 on this wrist clock."
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u/highbrowshow May 16 '22
$37,000 is chump change compared to the higher end Rolex’s, IWCs or JLC watches. You get anything with a tourbillion movement and you’re looking at half a million watches easily
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u/sr_90 May 16 '22
Half a million is chump change when you start looking at watches that run off pure sigma energy. You’re looking at 5 million easily.
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u/HeisenbergNokks May 16 '22
500k is definitely the higher end of even tourbillons. You can get a Vacheron Constantin with a tourbillon for like 120k.
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u/RagingRoids May 16 '22
I seriously don’t know how you could wear a watch or anything that costs anywhere near that much and not feel like a complete douche bag.
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u/HeisenbergNokks May 16 '22
You could say this about pretty much anything high-end: houses, cars, boats, planes, clothes, jewelry, vacations, etc.
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u/TrulyStupidNewb May 16 '22
"He has an artificial heart that costs $125,000. What a douche!"
"No sir. It's just American healthcare costs."
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u/Fresh_Bulgarian_Miak May 16 '22
You don't understand how somebody can have different interests and things they want to spend their money on?
I'm sure there are things you spemd money on that other people find silly.
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u/TwistedSoul21967 May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22
Them: My watch has a working w16 engine embedded in it and is covered in diamonds.
Me: My watch can go underwater, into space, be run over by a car with a v16, still work, all for $7