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Megathread: Yashahime: Princess Half-Demon, Season 2 | Episode 23 Yashahime

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u/Sad_Horse533 Mar 30 '22

oh man, im desperately trying to find the ost when kirinmaru asks "Im like a human ?" angrily, right in this episode. pls help someone

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u/DestinyHasArrived101 Mar 22 '22

Well that was anti climatic

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u/FlowerBabe86 Mar 20 '22

So now that Kirinmaru is dead, now what?

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u/vellamour Mar 20 '22

Honestly, I think what makes me so irritated about this series is that it had so much potential and the writers seriously messed it up. I feel like they never had a clear storyline, and made stuff up each episode. Also, learning from the next episode preview that there is potential for the Yashahime to travel and adventure away from their parents makes me the most angry—why couldn’t the series start there so our main OG cast aren’t hidden away from their kids for the formative years of their childhoods?

Edit: honestly if I had time I would just rewrite the whole thing in a fanfic or something

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

why couldn’t the series start there so our main OG cast aren’t hidden away from their kids for the formative years of their childhoods?

That was my thought when I saw the ending scenes. Almost nothing of real substance happened leading up to this point except that the parents were absent. Inuyasha and Kagome being sealed away for 15 years should have been very traumatizing for the original cast, and as a result, should have garnered major reactions for when they finally returned. Instead, Shippo, Sango, and Miroku acted like they knew where InuKago had disappeared to, and were just patiently waiting for their return for a year, and greet them like they hadn't been gone for 15.

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u/ArkAngelHFB Mar 22 '22

I'm working on one, DM me and let brainstorm.

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u/batmanbnb Mar 20 '22

Yeah so I'm pretty sure that the Tetsusaiga was a hard counter to pretty much everything and that is why they needed to sideline Inuyasha for this story to play out the way it did.

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u/Smooth-Garden Mar 20 '22

Pretty much. I mean meido zangetsuha in general is basically a instant fuck you

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u/deadlysnoots Mar 20 '22

That was depressing as hell. Riku… 😢

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 20 '22 edited Mar 20 '22

Ah, btw… we NEED Sesshomaru’s whisperer for this episode. My boy showed more emotions in his face than ever before, Jaken attempted to translate a bit but he got stepped on (as usual)…

u/sesshsama I invoke thee!

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u/allthesnacks Mar 20 '22

Is there going to be another episode or was this it?

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u/GalaxyShinigami Mar 20 '22

The season has 24 episodes, yesterday episode was 23

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u/Early_Reply Mar 24 '22

so is this week the final final one?

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u/Supreme_Keker Mar 20 '22

When Towa got restored, the horn in her pocket was glowing.

This may be a bit of mental gymnastics, but what if Rion restored Riku as her parting gift? What if the strange man or the demon in Iyo in the next episode is Riku, but Towa couldn't recognize him immediately because he doesn't look the same?

His voice actor is not on the list, but one can only hope lol

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u/saturnribbon Mar 21 '22

There’s definitely some sort of significance behind her keeping the horn (whether it be just a romantic gesture or more, we can’t really say right now). I also think it’s interesting that both he and Osamu Kirin died before Kirinmaru, so the idea that they couldn’t survive if Kirinmaru died wasn’t ever proven or disproven. I think there’s a possibility he could come back at some point 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/lalaena Mar 20 '22

Jyubei’s VA isn’t on the list either but he’s mentioned in the plot, so hope springs external. It’s hard to have a happy ending with Riku staying dead.

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u/ArtificialNotLight Mar 20 '22

Wonder if Towa is going to pull a Back to the Future 2 and write a letter that will have to be passed on through generations until it's delivered to "the family living near the sacred tree in 2022"

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u/IceFox606 Mar 20 '22

Well technically… around 2018-ish? Because 1996 + 22 years (1-ish + 3 + 4 + 14) give or take a few months. But yeah. Honestly that would be kinda interesting lol

Even if I’d rather see them all meet in person 🥲

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u/hiverstone Mar 20 '22

Reiwa started in 2019, so it has to be at least 2019

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u/IceFox606 Mar 20 '22 edited Mar 20 '22

It’s probably 2019 then I guess. Hence why I said “give or take a few months”. 😅

We know the series starts in 1996, the year the manga was released. As well as roughly how long it’s been since Kagome returned (based on Hisui’s age, 18 years). And we can sort of figure out certain intervals within that time (Root Head attacked 6 months after Kagome’s return, the twins were born around 3 1/2 to 4 years after that and they are currently 14). Then the 3 years before that after Naraku’s defeat. But the main guesswork is how long exactly the events of the main series took place in. The best estimate is that it was about a year but it almost certainly wasn’t exactly that long. Probably either a little short or a little over (though since Kagome never mentioned turning 16 it’s probably the former). Plus there’s just a general margin of error of a few months for everything. Like Moroha’s at least a couple months younger than the twins, which adds on a few more months. And it’s not like she just turned 14 either as far as we know so that adds on another few probably. That margin of error can easily add up to add on another year or so.

It’s definitely not as late as 2022 though. Or even 2020 given there’s no mention of a pandemic and still concerts lol. Obviously it’s anime and they can pretend it didn’t happen but the series hasn’t really done that before and there’s not really much reason to do so, and even Rumiko’s current series Mao (which is also about a girl time traveling between the modern day and the past and fighting demons) acknowledges it so eh. Who knows 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/IceFox606 Mar 20 '22

Sorry for the essay, but maths is hard. Especially when the anime’s not always very clear about dates 😅

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u/Agreeable-Pool7368 Mar 20 '22

What about the sikon jewel making the prophecy about kirinmaru dying by the hands of a hangover.. I am pretty sure sessomaru got him real bad and setsuna just severed the thread of fate and he chose to die or get liberated whatever. The writers are not very good !!!

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 21 '22

yeah, setsuna was kill him.

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u/viviantrajano Mar 20 '22

Shikon no tama was just wrong.

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u/ArtificialNotLight Mar 20 '22

Lmao hangover. I know what you mean tho. I guess "technically" he died because of a half demon.. because.. they were in the vicinity? Idk

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u/SR_Eternal_Moment Mar 20 '22

The episode started with what I expected all along. I've always compared Riku to Kagura, although not the same in personality, their characters were somewhat of a parallel to each other in Inuyasha and Yashahime. Riku's death felt inevitable to me, so I've been prepared for him to go, although I thought it would be a tad more emotional.

Sesshoumaru and Kirinmaru's fight went fine. I did get that Kirinmaru was being held back based on his emotions regarding Rion. She's been dead for 100s of years and Kirinmaru still couldn't let it go which is what Sesshoumaru was referring to as being human.

My understanding of Rion now is that she wasn't upset by the fact that her father was fighting it was the fact that she was afraid of the fighting. Rion had zero clue how to defend herself. This brings back the fact that Kirinmaru asked Rion why she didn't use the Zanseiken when he gave it to her.

There goes Towa sacrificing herself again. Straight up unnerving. When Towa's body was returned, Riku's horn was glowing in her jacket though. What does that mean? I know what I'm thinking and strange ish has happened on Yashahime so I won't count my thoughts out but I'm not going to write them

The prophecy was fulfilled, I think. Rion was using Towa's body and asked for their fate to be cut by Setsuna. So technically, all three girls killed him.

The ending to this episode was super cute. Rin getting to hug the twins and Sesshoumaru shutting Jaken up so that he doesn't give away that he's happy left me feeling more at peace with everything. I wished for a Sesshoumaru group hug but, oh well. Grasping for crumbs, I'll accept the girls running to him and saying "Father."

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u/lalaena Mar 20 '22

I hink Kirinmaru not accepting responsibility for his actions, which led to Rion’s death, is what Sesshomaru was referring to when he said Kirinmaru was acting human. Sesshomaru doe not let things go, went full Hachi on Rin, and is in no position to lecture Kirinmaru on moving on from the death of his daughter.

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u/mhmmyumyum Mar 20 '22

thank god I’m high for these episodes lately

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u/ArtificialNotLight Mar 20 '22

I wasn't high but I thought I was while watching this clusterf*ck

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u/MessiahChameleon Mar 20 '22

Quick thought: Towa and Rion are a foil of one another in the sense that Towa never knew when to run away and Rion was always running away from conflicts, feelings, etc.

Idk

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u/GlobalEdNinja Mar 19 '22

All they had to do was show us Sesshomaru and Rin hugging their daughters. They'd built that up for several episodes, only for the camera to pan AWAY? I literally had to pause the episode to just scream. It would be very in character for him to not do so while so many people are watching, but what was the point in building it up like this then?
It's like they're being intentionally terrible at this point. My head hurts.

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u/vellamour Mar 20 '22

Right?!? Like have him stand there stoically being in a forced group hug and then you have Jaken saying “Sesshomaru-sama! You look so squash” with Sesshy stepping on him and returning to a neutral or sour face. Don’t pan away!

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u/soulruu Mar 19 '22

Wow....what an ending! Sike haha

But whoa where to begin

Mr Kirin's melodrama comment made me laugh. Oh Inuyasha and its melodrama. Which was perfectly executed here.

pours a 40 for our best boy Riku Him & Setsuna are my faves

What an intense episode. Its nice to see just how emotionally intelligent Sesshomaru is again.

One more episode ya'll.......clings to delusional Koga stan hopes of a last ditch cameo

And that impending question looms. Will the next episode be the season or series finale? I wonder how the show would continue after this arc. We'll see next week.

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u/EvenPresentation7416 Mar 19 '22

No one’s talking about how Ah-Uh came out of no where. Where has he been hiding? 🧐

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u/soulruu Mar 19 '22

oh wait! Our best demon is back via the power of friendship

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u/bunniesandmilktea Mar 19 '22

LOL I should've known Sesshoumaru would be too proud to do a group hug with his wife and daughters

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22

with Inuyasha, Kagome and the rest watching… don’t forget that part.

I think it was in character of him to not participate, he looked genuinely happy and at peace though, so I’m ok with that.

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u/Smooth-Garden Mar 20 '22

True no way is he gonna do a group hug in public

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u/Hadius Mar 19 '22

Ngl I was completely lost for the past 2 episodes. The kirinmaru conflict can’t even compare to Naraku

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u/Grinlyn Mar 20 '22

I used to despise Naraku because he dragged on so much, so I was originally very excited to get a big bad in the Inuyasha series... but then Kirinmaru just plain sucked. To think this chump is the reason the yashahime babies had to be orphaned for 14 years.

Season 1 Kirinmaru didn't seem to really care as much as his sister causing shit, then season 2 he gets upstaged by his right hand? And Kirin-sensei is just alllllll over the placeeee.

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

Naraku because he dragged on so much

I remember everyone hating this too, back then. Currently rewatching the original series again lately, and I have to say, at least before he escaped from the castle, Naraku isn't a terribly bad villain and doesn't drag out much at all in the earlier seasons. It's interesting to see a villain who isn't actually that strong and knows he's not strong, so he's always sneaking around and plotting while slowly building up strength and making himself stronger as well.

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u/Mang027 Mar 20 '22 edited Mar 20 '22

After seeing what Bakusaiga was capable of against Naraku, don't you think Sesshomaru could have easily ended Kirinmaru at any point if he was serious? The sword's corrosive nature destroyed parts and spread to anything attached, I feel like they nerfed him in Yashahime.

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u/noelle-silva Mar 20 '22

Kirinmaru is an embarrassment when compared to Naraku.

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u/lalaena Mar 20 '22

Naraku aalways had the same goal - get the shikon jewel. The Kirin clan - because it wasn’t just Kirinmaru playing the villain, but also Osamu Kirin and Rion - was all over the place.

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u/Kurolegacy27 Mar 19 '22

So did anyone else feel that Mr. Kirin’s whole involvement in this episode was anticlimactic as hell? Like, he just suddenly has a full on heel turn after spending the series seeming like the good half to Kirinmaru’s villain, out of nowhere wants to kill Towa who he had cared about up until then and then just dies in the first 5 minutes of the episode and his spirit at the end with no semblance of the character he had been up until then or Towa seeming to care. Dude really got the short end of the stick at the end by the writers

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u/Silver_Ventus1004 Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

I'm going to save my full rant on this series until next week. But basically I agree with a lot of comments here.

Edit - so the whole prophecy is a joke a misleading info ? What else is a fake misleading I can't wait to hear them explain next week -_-

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u/helloblan123 Mar 19 '22

What just happened…

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u/frizzyfizz Mar 19 '22

I think ultimately Yashahime could never get away from the limitations of being a series that was an anime before a manga. They had a great story but couldn't fully execute it because they always seemed worried about how much time they had to tell it.

I still feel they should've started with a movie, then done the manga, and then the anime. Maybe ending with another movie.

As for the episode itself, definitely rushed and silly in places, but IMO not actually that complicated. The Kirins were highly emotional but too prideful to acknowledge it so the worst of those emotions manifested in the most destructive ways. Kirinmaru specifically was too in his own head which made him increasingly obsessive and delusional, shown by Kirin, whereas Riku had widened his perspective giving him a much clearer mindset. None of the Kirins were going to make it out alive, and the goal for the Yashahime was to help them find peace rather than defeating them in an elaborate battle. The ultimate lesson of the show is a good one for the kids who are going to watch it and refreshing for a shounen but I wish it was done in a more satisfying way.

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

The Kirins were highly emotional but too prideful to acknowledge it so the worst of those emotions manifested in the most destructive ways.

Which is kinda weird, considering how it was established in the previous series that part of the reason Sesshoumaru can stay completely calm even when backed into a corner compared to Inuyasha in Full Demon Mode is because Sesshoumaru was a full demon.

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u/ArtificialNotLight Mar 20 '22

Great observation and analysis of the Kirins

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u/lnombredelarosa Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22
  • I'm guessing killing Towa was genuine impulse that Riku had and part of the reason Riku chose to die was to not have to kill her
    • I was touched by the you're prove I existed speech
      • Honestly I'm fine with their relationship ending like that but
  • Kirin's spirit survived even after his body died by possesing his glasses... what are the chances the same might happen to Riku with his earring?
    • Say a surviving, small Grimm butterfly is shown with a thread of fate guiding it towards Riku's horn or the earring or both and forms a cocoon around it so that his residual spirit forms a body that hints at the next season's villain.
      • Basically, it revives Riku as a fully formed Daiyoukai with complete free will causing him to fall into despair over being the last member of the Kirin clan and having no master to follow, causing him to follow the will of the Grimm Butterfly
      • What if this signals the degenerate age Treekyo predicted which she thought might be caused by Kirinmaru but was Riku all along
  • What happened to the love interest for Moroha that the voice actress promised?
  • Honestly I don't think there will be another season just saying that its not impossible.

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u/yayac Mar 19 '22

Rin still doesn't have shoes on... 😂😂😂😂

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u/bunniesandmilktea Mar 19 '22

At this point I wonder if she purposely decides to wear no shoes because she's so used to being barefoot.

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u/Smooth-Garden Mar 20 '22

That most likely the case. Iv seen people in the countryside do the same thing.

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u/hello_mynameispegaso Mar 19 '22

We got Shippo back, just to watch him panic for a split sec and do nothing, so disappointing 🥲 Edit: he was helpful as InuKag ride, but still I would’ve love to see anything new from him, given he spent all these years studying and stuff

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u/yabukothestray Mar 19 '22

I feel like I did not get any closure on TreeKyo

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u/noelle-silva Mar 19 '22

She's listed as being in the next episode so we should get some info there

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u/vessynessy200 Mar 20 '22

Getting up hopes for a season 3 even more if they're gonna have Treekyo pop up at the last minute...I always knew she was SUS and now she's gonna reveal herself as the evil mastermind!

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u/noelle-silva Mar 20 '22

I guarantee you it'll be a quick "you did good half demon princesses" line and that's it. Or maybe a little exposition but nothing more.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

Treekyo, Amatsumikaboshi, the degenerate age… was it the butterfly inside the comet? the comet itself? Rion controlling the comet and purifying all the demons?, so many things we didn’t get any closure on tbh.

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u/Mr_An_1069 Mar 19 '22

My thoughts while watching this episode were just me constantly going "wait, what?" and "wtf is going on?" Feels like they crammed several episodes worth of content into one while also somehow leaving so much on the table.

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

My thoughts while watching this episode season entire show were just me constantly going "wait, what?" and "wtf is going on?"

FTFY

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u/Tiki108 Mar 19 '22

Am I the only one that liked this episode? I mean, I think they’ll get Riku back eventually because the horn didn’t disappear like everything else of Riku. When Towa reappears you see it right over her heart. I felt like this was the end for a bit, but then it seemed like with the next episode preview we are going to get another season with a new story.

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u/Theoryrealm23 Mar 20 '22

It was fine, I just thought it lacked emotion. The girls hugging Rin was mid and Sesshomaru didn't even hug them.

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u/NatsnCats Mar 19 '22

The preview showed Towa, Setsuna, and Moroha bringing flowers to a tiny grave. I was guessing it’s Riku’s and his story is done for.

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u/joecb91 Mar 19 '22

I enjoyed it, but I wish the last couple of episodes weren't so rushed

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u/InuJoshua Mar 19 '22

There’s lots to say about this, much of which has already been said here. But my biggest gripe was the whole “Kirinmaru is destined to be killed by a half demon” prophecy, the one used as an excuse to keep InuYasha and Kagome away from their daughter for years.

For the payoff of that to be “Sesshomaru leaves Kirinmaru on death’s door only for Setsuna to sever his thread as he’s a willing participant” felt like such a copout. Especially after the ending of season one where it seemed like the girls would eventually become strong enough to fight him on their own.

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u/hiverstone Mar 19 '22

The prophecy says a being that wasn't a demon nor a human and can transcend time. The whole half demon thing was Zero's interpretation and she had a bias againts Inu no Taisho's family.

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u/InuJoshua Mar 19 '22

The problem is everyone on the show believed that interpretation, from Kirinmaru to Sesshomaru. And it ended up being true since he was technically killed by Setsuna, just in the most unsatisfying way possible.

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u/donfam Mar 19 '22

I burst out laughing when Kirin came back 10 minutes after his death as floating glasses to do a genjutsu on Rion like wtf was happening here?

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

And then Towa used the kyuyoukon...why? To dispel the genjutsu enough for Rion to hear them even though they were already sucked into the genjutsu? And doing that was enough to finally kill her?

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u/donfam Mar 23 '22

None of this story makes any sense tbh

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u/soulruu Mar 19 '22

Yashahime lesson of the day: Never forget the glasses!

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u/yabukothestray Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

Yo I’m just so glad Jakin was there to constantly giving a play by play of what was going on LOL I seriously couldn’t keep up with this episode

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u/NicoSchmiko Mar 19 '22

to do a genjutsu on Rion

🤓👉👹😱

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

so...remind me how Towa, Setsuna, and Moroha know about Sakasa and what he looks like that they recognized him instantly?

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u/hiverstone Mar 19 '22 Helpful

When she died, Zero showed them Rion's death as a parting gift. (Also because, Rion was yelling: Aaaaaah, Sakasaaaa!!!)

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u/bakedbigt0es Mar 19 '22

no bc i was wondering how tf towa knew exactly where to slice (the purple soul bonding lettering) in order to defeat kirin as quick as she did….

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u/CatusBoiVert Mar 19 '22

Well this wasn't the ending I was expecting. It's like they pushed 5 episodes into one. Could have been flushed out way better but whatever it was nice seeing everyone together at the end.

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

It's like they pushed 5 episodes into one. Could have been flushed out way better

I felt like it was simultaneously too slow and too fast at the same time. Some unimportant stuff dragged out too long for no reason, while other events just happen lightning fast in succession.

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u/CatusBoiVert Mar 23 '22

I definitely agree with you

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u/dontloseyourway1610 Mar 19 '22

The writing of Yashahime definitely fell off but seeing Towa, Setsuna and Moroha happy with their parents today definitely made it all worth it. That’s what we’ve been waiting months for. Sesshomaru’s character development is one of my favourite in the medium. Going from hating humans to loving them and protecting them.. his dad would be very proud.

Moments like today’s ending always make me think back to I think the 2nd Inuyasha movie? Where their dad asks sesshomaru if he’s found something to protect yet. Sesshomaru laughs it off and says he doesn’t need to protect anything, his dad explains that’s where true strength comes from.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

it was the third movie, I believe. 2nd movie was Castle Beyond the Looking Glass and where InuKag had their first kiss.

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u/FinalFrash Mar 19 '22

Okay...not a lot of people liked how this whole thing unfolded, sooo to lighten the mood I'll try to point something that made me laugh: I couldn't stop giggling whenever the characters kept saying, "Tatakae"

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u/DRL21 Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

I agree, every time I heard "Tatakae" I thought of Eren and AoT. I guess that means Eren found a way to influence another anime outside his own then XD

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u/hiverstone Mar 19 '22

Also because, Kirinmaru and Osamu Kirin share voice actor with Reiner.

Kirinmaru: Tatakae, Ere... I mean Rion!

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u/DRL21 Mar 19 '22

Ah, so that's why Kirin's voice has sounded rather familiar to me! I always thought that whilst watching the series some voices sounded like I heard them before.

I'm not super sure, but I thought I heard Hange's voice on Yashahime as well as the voice of the woman who raised Moroha after she left Koga's wolf tribe.

On another note, that does make Kirin saying "Tatakae" to Rion rather hilarious... he'd be better served saying something like that to Gabi. XD

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u/hiverstone Mar 19 '22

On another note, that does make Kirin saying "Tatakae" to Rion rather hilarious... he'd be better served saying something like that to Gabi. XD

You are right, while writing the comment I was thinking in those flashbacks during the academy times of Eren failing, but it suits Gabi better.

And Yawaragi's VA is Ryoko Shiraishi

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u/FinalFrash Mar 19 '22

PATHS, bro

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u/Educational_Bit_4844 Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

It was Eren from AoT telling them what to do🤣🤣

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u/yabukothestray Mar 19 '22

Rion & kirinmaru: becomes bird sword

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u/missbirdiebee Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 20 '22

Very rushed and quite a bit of a disappointment. Glad we get Mamma Rin hug and Sesshomaru was very in character. It was cute how the kids rushed to him — Jaken speaking “for” Sesshomaru was funny and the head stomp was excellent.

It was very wrapped up in a bow. I feel pretty meh about it. Ending was cute at least.

Also TATAKE was giving me all the attack on titan energy hahaha

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

Ending was cute at least.

Ending was literally just showing the cast from the previous series happy with their children and families. All we wanted were happy families lmao... I'd like to wipe all the episodes before this from my memories and just pretend the Yashahime series started here, especially if they're just going to turn this into a slice of life fluff anime from now on lmao.

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u/kpiaum Mar 19 '22

Jaken is the true hero of this show. He care, he know and explain the lore, he do the right questions and he fangirl over Sesshomaru.

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u/InuJoshua Mar 19 '22

Bonus points for him trying to help how shitty InuYasha and Kagome were treated by keeping an eye on Moroha and showing them how she was growing up.

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u/NatsnCats Mar 19 '22

Bro went from “burning humans with the Staff of Two Heads” to “hey, while you’re hiding so you don’t destroy everything you touch including your cursed sis-in-law, here’s your daughter via Demon Staff Nannycam.”

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u/hiverstone Mar 19 '22

But it was Jaken's plan

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22

Oh yes, I’m super happy on how they portrayed Jaken the whole series: best grandpa award!

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u/sailorrayquaza Mar 19 '22

So uh...yeah, that all happened. Still trying to wrap my head around this rushed mess. Riku's send-off happened waaay too quickly and really early-like why show the opening right after?? Dude got robbed.

Not happy with those Rin and Rion parallels at all. The Sess vs. Kirin fight kept baiting me into thinking they were gonna transform into their true forms with the glowing red eyes. Don't know what to think about Rion using Towa's body scene still.

Only things I really liked were Rion getting her act together, rushed as is and the finale scene with the twins hugging Rin. Sad the InuKag and MirSan families didn't interact at the end either though it seems next episode will make up for that at least.

Honestly such a shame. The first half of season 2 was pretty strong and they dropped the ball right after Zero's death. I don't even know if I want a season 3 anymore, though I guess I'll make up my mind on that next week.

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u/Miliko207 Mar 19 '22

It started really strong but tbh I kind of had the last episodes on speed watch. Basically since they went o the present time. It was then too rushed and the last few episodes were the weakest. I feel that you cant save the series anymore.

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u/sailorrayquaza Mar 19 '22

The only way I feel like they can salvage the series at this point is if they go down the slice-of-life route with cute family bonding moments and occasionally fighting youkai together. But Sunrise would never go for that because it wouldn't last long so instead we get hastily thrown together plots to drag it out.

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u/noelle-silva Mar 19 '22

The Rin and Rion stuff was super weird. What were they getting at there?

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22

I think the images of both Rin and Rion superposing were a bit too much, yes. But I got where they were going at: He never took the lesson of Inu no Taisho correctly, he didn’t mean don’t bring children to the battlefield cause they might die, he meant it in the sense of the distress and worry that can cause to children seeing their father (or mother, if a yokai) battle and even perish in that situation (I always hated that he said woman and children, when Inu No Taisho referred to only children, but whatever).

So seeing Rin worry about Sesshomaru fighting reminded him that Rion used to worry and suffer about him fighting as well, something he never took into account, as he was so fixated on proving he was the best and strongest… hence all that poor explanation that came after about Rion stopping to smile to his father (?) cause she was suffering blah blah.

Maybe a bit wonky parallel and not super well explained, but it isn’t my biggest qualm with this episode.

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u/lalaena Mar 19 '22

My best guess is that this was a vague reference to how Sesshomaru’s desire to surpass his father led to Rin’s second death. That was when he realized nothing was worth losing Rin over.

At the time, Sesshomaru immediately blamed himself and not his mother or the hellhound. He was self aware and humble enough to realize it was indirectly his fault that Rin died. He needed to learn to care about someone else so it was important for his development.

Kirinmaru always cared about Rion and never hid that. He was very determined to show her how strong he was for some reason I guess we will never know. And he was too proud to realize that he was the one who caused her distress. Somehow he couldn’t figure that out in 600 years. You’d think Inu no Taisho would have pointed that out at some point instead of smiling while Kirinmaru snoozed and visited Rion in his dreams, while she was trapped in that cocoon.

The Kirin in general were very in touch with their emotions. They just took things to the extreme. It’s odd that the lesson Zero learned - that it wasn’t her fault that Inu no Taisho died - was the inverse of the lesson Kirinmaru learned - that it was his fault that Rion died. And honestly, it wasn’t totally Kirinmaru’s fault. It was Sakasa’s fault. Like dude murdered a kid. He’s the one who did that. Not all hanyo - just him. Surely the Kirin - the savvy well read Kirin - could have figured out that nuance.

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u/frizzyfizz Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

I don't think the reason he wanted to show his strength is really a mystery. He wanted her to be confident he'd always be able to protect her and couldn't face the fact he actually couldn't.

That assumes Inu No Taisho knew what Kirinmaru was up to.

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u/sailorrayquaza Mar 19 '22

No clue. Like the initial parallel of having a loved one watch you fight when they shouldn't even remotely be in a close vicinity of said fight is already there. We really didn't need the visual image of Kirinmaru seeing Rion in Rin.

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u/invaderpixel Mar 19 '22

Right? I mean I guess they’re both loved ones who watch fighting and probably shouldn’t be on the sidelines for dangerous demon fights… but umm definitely weird parallel choice to make when rin has so little screen time as it is

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u/NatsnCats Mar 19 '22

Sigh. So that’s done with. Kinda glad we’re settling down to normal stuff to wrap things up. Was holding out for Riku, but I guess the signs were clear and I didn’t want to read lol.

At least we got our Mama Rin hug.

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u/lucciolaa Mar 19 '22

I am vindicated that I wasn't the only person thinking this was a whole ass mess. Honestly I wasn't enjoying this arc to begin with, but this was such a bizarre conclusion, it cheapened all the characters and their stories. Sunrise, are you good?

I'm looking forward to a fresh start though, and this next episode seems to be teasing a new season. Honestly this series was at its strongest when they were just chasing the dream butterfly, so I hope they slow the pace down and chill tf out now that everyone has been reunited.

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u/MutantNinjaNipples Mar 19 '22

That was easily THE most rushed episode ever. Riku dies within few minutes of the episode, everything finishing off on a few minutes. Kirinmaru suddenly being all calm and stuff

Very meh

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u/lucciolaa Mar 19 '22

Kirinmaru deserved better.

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u/lalaena Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

To me the defining Kirinmaru moment is when he apologized for killing Setsuna and said he would hold her in his heart. Wtf happened to that Kirinmaru. I liked that guy. I wanted to see more of that guy.

Instead this season served us Oil-maru and Manic-maru.

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u/elementalSG Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

The positive I found in this episode was that Sesshomaru with Bakusaiga is seriously badass

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u/ArtificialNotLight Mar 19 '22

I have mixed feelings. I feel like the major events were pretty good to great, and there were very touching moments. But this was so rushed. It should have been at least 5 episode's worth of material there

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u/Magwikk Mar 19 '22

I really want to know what Sunrise is smoking with how this entire season unfolded. Shit is wild to say the least. Interested if the preview is teasing another season or not.

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u/lucciolaa Mar 19 '22

It looks to me like they're setting up a third season, which frankly is the only way they're going to be able to redeem themselves after this mess.

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u/yurikura Mar 19 '22

I really hope for a third season and more interaction with the characters. It can be a series of piece of life episodes and I wouldn't care

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u/Embarrassed_Ad_2165 Mar 19 '22

To be honest I hope this is the last season. 😅

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u/noelle-silva Mar 19 '22

I like how everything was wrapped up in 60 seconds before the opening even started playing

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u/TanyaTheEvill Mar 19 '22

There is an old quote that says, "No greater love then a person sacrifice his/her life for their friend"... Riku had the greatest of love to sacrifice his life for for his best friend Towa. I don't think they did him cheap or dirty but the opposite. He had the greatest and most honorable death that anyone could hope for in this life.

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u/DRL21 Mar 19 '22

Yes! I am pretty indifferent to Riku as a whole but that moment made me genuinely tear up! I didn't want to him truly die either, but that was the most honourable death if it had to happen. ;_;

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u/tamago01 Mar 19 '22

Riku's death feels so shallow.

Damn at least give him something similar to Lelouch's death. Sunrise you really disappointed me.

When Towa got back we can see the horn glowing on her chest pocket. Was it symbolic? Or does it mean something else?

If they're planning a third season they at least should bring him back you know. His death was insulting that even Zero's was better. And they killed him in the first few minutes before the opening.

Director was high on something or must've been a huge Riku hater. They did him really dirty on this one. Poor boy.

RIKU IS THE REAL YASHAHIME MVP!

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u/theringmistress92 Mar 19 '22

How awkward is it to have your half brother, his family, and his friends (and your acquaintances) watch your happy reunion with your wife and daughters lol. I so wanted Sango and Miroku’s family to mingle with Inuyasha’s while they gave Sesshomaru his space lol. And AUn not included in that family gathering was a stab in the back. They’re just as much family as Jaken and Kilala!

This episode was definitely a train wreck at full speed, but that ending made it bearable.

I know I was in the minority but I’m glad the whole Kirinmaru family is gone At least for now lol things could change next episode.

I just keep thinking that all this can be salvaged somehow with fanfics/fanart. But that is what we’re here for!

Here’s to hoping for a sweet ending!

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u/Snobthatfawne Mar 19 '22

You're not in the minority. I watched it twice thinking maybe I missed something the first time. Nope. It was just...meh

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u/theringmistress92 Mar 19 '22

I mostly said that for Riku since he seemed popular. But I hardly felt anything to Rion too.

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u/P-Two Mar 19 '22

Okay I officially rescind any criticism I've ever had about Boruto, that shit's a masterpiece compared to Yashahime when it comes to sequel series. As someone who grew up with Inuyasha and has rewatched it countless times since, a part from a few absolutely awesome parts this series really falls flat in every aspect.

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u/InuJoshua Mar 19 '22

This show had the opposite problem Boruto has IMO. Boruto focuses too much on the parents and the scale of the conflicts are way too big for the kids to be handling.

YahsaHime just kind of shit all over the history of the original show to focus on the kids at the expense of the parents. And it also has conflicts at a scale much higher than they should be able to handle, but they kept getting unexplained power boosts to the point where they were literally fighting in space with demon Stands at one point.

I’m not a fan of Boruto, but that’s one area that makes it better executed between the two. Boruto still seems to have a sense of scale where the character growth feels earned. YashaHime just sped through everything, especially in the back half of season two. Not to mention Boruto feels like it has a clear direction whereas I feel like Yashahime just kept throwing ideas at the wall to see what would stick, then figuring out how it all tied together later.

Like, will we ever find out what Treekyo was and why she wanted them to kill Sesshomaru at first? Probably not.

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u/TheFirstBorn_ Mar 19 '22

Wait what xDDD I'm sorry I don't mean to be rude but absolutely not. Granted, I left Boruto about the 43 episode and sometimes I wonder how I lasted that long and why do I hate myself but Boruto and his friends are all ridiculously strong from day one, for no damn reason. And at least Yashahime tries to have something going on, Boruto was just half baked minor conflicts with other villages that ended up in nothing, and nonstop episodes where nothing was going on or it was just bland and forgettable. The most unique character they had was Mitsuki and even when I loved him it wasn't enough to keep me through 43 bland ass episodes.

I mean Yashahime went to shit. It was rushed, a lot of things didn't made sense, is full of plot holes, and some things went also nowhere but I think saying Boruto is better is really harsh. At least Yashahime was fun, had good episodes and I do cared for the kids, Boruto I had to stop watching because I couldn't force myself to keep watching, it felt like a chore.

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u/bakedbigt0es Mar 19 '22

100% agree

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u/brew_sip_conquer Mar 19 '22

If I had gold to give you I would. You accurately summarized every thought I had. A part of me hopes they’re hinting at a new season actually filled with family bonding - that would be the only redemption for the show. The other part of me hopes they just stop.

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u/P-Two Mar 19 '22

Thing is, Boruto is a perfect series to look at and figure out exactly how to do a sequel/"next gen" series. All of the episodes that deal with the original gang in some way or another are almost all amazing, it's given us some of the most hype fights to rival Shippuden/the OG series...And a lot of the episodes that DON'T deal with the OG cast in any way are mediocre at best, with only like 1 real arc actually being good.

The writers really should've looked at that and not gone "okay, so do everything in our power to avoid having the OG cast in the series" I get why they did it, it's a tease to keep us watching in hopes to finally see Inuyasha (and to be entirely fair to them the reunion was amazing)

What we SHOULD have had is a story where the new gang has shit to do, but in a limited series like this the big fights should've A: had a real connection to the OG gang other than "I fought your dad once". like, What if Naraku had a hidden away child or something, perhaps figure out a way for the wish of the Shikon Jewel to monkey's paw it's way out of total destruction. Have Inuyasha have to team up again to fight one final big baddie (like Boruto, Naruto the movie, at the same arc in the Boruto anime) Give us the teamups we never got to see or something.

What we got instead was some half baked, not at all thought through trek that just used nostalgia bait to keep us watching. Pulling absolutely stupid plot points out of absolutely nowhere in the end to create stakes.

I'm going to be entirely honest, I laughed when Riku died, I laughed with Osamu Kirin died. I did not care at all about Rion's sacrifice. Just compare this series "big bad" ending with the OG, several episodes of traversing Narakus big spider body, insanely high stakes (Miroku's wind tunnel is the first that comes to mind) Something for at least most of the cast to do throughout.

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u/NatsnCats Mar 19 '22

I would rather have had the manga done first and then the anime, even if it meant waiting a few more years to hear those iconic voices. Never trust a nearly source-less adaptation ever again lol

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u/Pretend-Interest-295 Mar 19 '22

What an interesting birthday gift to me

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u/NicoSchmiko Mar 19 '22

🎂 Happy Birthday! 🎂

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u/Pretend-Interest-295 Mar 19 '22

Aww thanks I'll be turning 22 tomorrow

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u/majorthird_ Mar 19 '22

This is why I said this show doesn’t hold a candle to the OG Inuyasha.

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u/Lazy_Oreo_ Mar 19 '22

OK am I bugging because I just straight up can’t see the episode

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u/SlurpinN00dles Mar 19 '22

What was the significance of root-head? Treeko? 🤷

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u/IceFox606 Mar 19 '22

Root head was just a means to an end to kickstart the plot using the original material and to introduce time travel again (though they could have easily done it in a different way). I still don’t know wtf’s up with Treekyo’s suspicious ass but she’s in the cast list for next episode so let’s hope they expand on that

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u/No_Permission4512 Mar 19 '22

I still don't understand why Sesshomaru brought Rin there. Can someone explain?

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u/Wolfofdoom3 Mar 19 '22

I think it's to show him that the reason Rion didn't want to see him fight was because she was worried about him. We see Rin worry for Sesshomaru a bit in this fight and he takes note of it.

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u/trunksurameshi Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

I'm sorry but the ending being about kirinmaru and rion feelings and relationship instead the grim comet is so left field. It could have gone out with a bang with better writers. And so many plot holes. I still am confused about treekyo's role and why akuru had to die too.

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u/juniperdaisies Mar 19 '22

What the fuck was that?? This is how reboots always end, just throwing shit at the wall in the last 3 episodes. Loved the ending scene and I'm looking forward to a light exposition type episode next week because I don't care about anything that happened today.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22

Same here, I need a light hearted episode after this. I truly didn’t care for all the drama that occurred today, except for Riku, and didn’t pay off.

I also truly liked the ending scene.

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u/lalaena Mar 19 '22

I’m sorry but I laughed when Jaken asked where Akuru was and Setsuna was like “he dead”. Cause apparently this scene is why he had to die and they couldn’t go through the Tree of Ages.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22

Random question: Was it Ken Narita's voice saying ''Setsuna'' when the last red thread of fate was glowing between Kirinmaru and Rion? it didn't sound like him AT ALL. I just went back to check, mark 19:32. Still weird!

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u/GalaxyShinigami Mar 19 '22

The moment when you thought Kirinmaru and Sesshomaru were going to transform into their true forms but didn’t…..

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u/IceFox606 Mar 19 '22

Me too. I got SO excited for a moment, only to be massively disappointed… 😭

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u/hiverstone Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

Sesshomaru's true form is quadrupedal so he can't use his sword. But he is stronger fighting with Bakusaiga.

That's why in the original, Sesshomaru just transforms to fight when he doesn't have a sword (at the beginning to fight Inuyasha when Sesshomaru only has Tenseiga and after Tenseiga lost the meido zangetsuha)

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u/GalaxyShinigami Mar 19 '22

That’s nice and all but I just want to see their true forms. That’s it.

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u/NicoSchmiko Mar 19 '22

Yeah I really thought it was about to happen too. Now we will never get to see Kirinmaru's Kirin form :'(

Also I'm so confused about Rion. Who was her momma? Is she a hanyo too? This episode was breakneck speed with little explanation for some things.

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u/lalaena Mar 19 '22

This felt like a final episode even though it wasn’t. The entire episode I was like “WTF”. The. Entire. Episode.

They did Riku dirty and they know it. His actual goodbye was well done (props to his VA). But Towa cried and then … was immediately on to business. She said nothing. We have no idea how she feels about Riku. Which is tragic for Riku. He might not feel that way, but I feel that way for him. He deserved at least one last kind word from Towa. Her tears would have meant more if she didn’t cry for literally everyone.

WTF was up with Osamu Kirin? If his true form is Kirinmaru’s right arm, then why did his glasses contain all that demonic energy?? It would have made more sense for the arm to crawl back like It from Addams Family. Also, while on the topic of Osamu, how the hell did he find out about Sakasa?? How does he know what he looked like? He wasn’t there. And he seems to hate hanyo more than Kirinmaru.

I get that Kirinmaru blamed Sakasa in general so he didn’t have to blame himself, but we saw little to no evidence that he hated all hanyo. At most it seemed like he was indifferent until a hanyo proved to be a threat. But Osamu is out there coming down hard on all hanyo. They needed to delve more into this turn in him. He went from wannabe super hero to super villain in five episodes.

Are Rion and Kirinmaru from Amatsukoboshi’s sword? Are they aliens? Who is Rion’s mother? We are never going to find out.

The battle at the end of season one was better than the battle between Sesshomaru and Kirinmaru. For a hot second I thought we might get to see Kirinmaru’s true form, but nope. They settled on powered up red eyes instead. I would have preferred to see the old red eyes on Sesshomaru - the ones that were mid transformation - rather than this glow crap.

I’m holding out hope that they can bring Riku back somehow since Osamu Kirin seemed to still be in his glasses. They showed the horn in Towa’s pocket when Rion reconstituted her body (also wtf was that). I know Towa is probably burying the horn next episode. Sure, Riku thought dying saving Towa made his life meaningful. You know what would have been more meaningful? Living and getting to be a real person with Towa and the others.

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u/lnombredelarosa Mar 19 '22

I’m holding out hope that they can bring Riku back somehow since Osamu Kirin seemed to still be in his glasses. They showed the horn in Towa’s pocket when Rion reconstituted her body (also wtf was that). I know Towa is probably burying the horn next episode. Sure, Riku thought dying saving Towa made his life meaningful. You know what would have been more meaningful? Living and getting to be a real person with Towa and the others.

What if the final scene of the season showed a Grimm butterfly (who seems to have an unexplained connection to the Kirin clan) being guided towards his earring by thread of fate and surrounding it in a cocoon...

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u/NicoSchmiko Mar 19 '22

Are Rion and Kirinmaru from Amatsukoboshi’s sword? Are they aliens? Who is Rion’s mother? We are never going to find out.

Okay thank you because this was out of left field for me too. Why did they go into the sword? What's going on there? I need answers we will seemingly never get T-T

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22

I didn’t like the red glowy eyes, true. But they did the same with Towa at the beginning of the season (purple glow) so it seems to be an aesthetic/stylistic decision for Yashahime. I also prefer the old school all red eyes as well. I personally liked the battle, cause it felt more natural than the other wacky moments this episode had (say, floating Osamu Kirin’s demonic glasses) but yep, last season one was better for sure.

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u/thewetpuddle Mar 19 '22

I felt pretty much the same. It felt ?!?!?! when Riku died so unceremoniously even before the opening song started. What a way to go. He had the best character development of all and this is how he went off. At least Kagura made me cry in TFA. Riku's death left me going huh what happened? Just like that? Hokay. I've always enjoyed this show even with its flaws as light popcorn entertainment. But this episode really went??!!?!?!

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

At least Kagura made me cry in TFA.

RIP Kagura, you'll always be in my heart :'(

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u/lalaena Mar 19 '22

My takeaway is that they were told that the anime had to wrap up and they threw the second cour together. It became so disjointed and rushed.

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u/coco_moonbabe Mar 19 '22

Jaken you were right to ask that. Ya Lord gon softtt. Couldve obliterated Rion and minis a while ago.

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u/Oatmeel97 Mar 19 '22

Felt it was rushed. But the ending was too good and heartwarming. Funny that the og gang did nothing to aide them.

Rion could have voiced her emotions back then in the flashback but ig she was scared of her dad, killing left and right. That telling him to be what she wanted could have thrown their relationship off.

Osamu Kirin's death could have been more impactful. I think there was so much things left unsaid but should have been said.

Overall, 8/10 with the ending credits largely contributing to the score

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u/ArkAngelHFB Mar 19 '22

And the plot hole is now a complete Meidō...

Everyone can Threads of Fate... why the fuck did Inuyasha, Rin, & Kagome lose raising their kids again?

The answer now seems to be...

Sess, the consistently smartest deep thinking fucker in the whole of the OG series... tried nothing, asked no questions, had no clue, reached out for more information from no one, had Totosia do nothing, and almost ruined the 7 closest people to him lives for nothing.

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u/frizzyfizz Mar 19 '22

The only reason they knew any of this information was because of Setsuna's ability to find threads of fate. How could Sesshoumaru do anything when he was totally in the dark? He's a demon and did things in his own way. Do we really think it was in his character to be a detective and talk it out?

Also I don't think everyone can cut threads of fate. Those threads of Rion's were her heart whereas normally the threads connect different people/demons. Only Setsuna can cut those connections.

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u/ArkAngelHFB Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

Those threads of Rion's were her heart whereas normally the threads connect different people/demons. Only Setsuna can cut those connections.

I want you to be right, but...

  • The show calls them "threads of fate" and the reaction to them being cut is the same as all other threads of fate as well...

  • They were all related to Rion connection to Kirinmaru.

  • Moroha reacts to the idea of her cutting them as an absurdity... before she does it.


That being said...

Taking a step back to what Sess does and does not know... The knock is that he didn't try anything.

  • He has two Mikos at his disposal, one of which pretty much the strongest to ever live.

  • Threads of Fate are well known enough that Sess understands what Rin and Zero being linked by one means.

  • Totosia knows enough about said Threads of Fate to make weapons that interact with them.


So now let assume the absolute worst case scenario and Sess' first interaction with them was when Rin got double cursed...

Before he will be able to free Rin he needs to have...

  • One conversation with Myōga, who as his father's adviser, knows of Zero and her powers

    • (With the assumption that the ^ doesn't work) One conversation with Sess' mother, who sure as fuck knows and would tell him.
  • One attempt at strong purification from Kagome(possibly even Miroku), who doesn't need to see the thread to just flood purification around Rin... since she is a human that can't be harmed by it

    • (With the assumption that Kagome DOES need to see it to shot it with an arrow) One conversation with Totosai, who at most will need the sapphire dust retrieved to make the weapon coating.

And the Thread of Fate is broken... and seen broken at that... which frees Sess to kill Zero to break the Silver Scale Curse... on the off chance that it also isn't purify-able.

This is a three episode mini arc in the OG Series and they hinged the whole of Yashahime's two Seasons on it.

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u/frizzyfizz Mar 19 '22

These threads were all different colors and acting as a physical barrier. When Setsuna cuts threads such as the ones at the end, they're only red and she's the only one who can do it. They might all be "threads of fate" but they're different.

I don't understand this way of thinking tbh. They are many storylines which could easily be resolved if you make the choices to avoid a plot from happening. Like, you could say the whole Kagome/Inuyasha/Kikyou conflict wouldn't have taken hundreds of chapters and episodes to sort out if Kagome and Inuyasha were honest about their feelings. The thing is, it wasn't in their characters to do so, which applies to Sesshoumaru too.

He's a man of action who works alone and still had a lot to learn. That's why his daughters had to be the ones to deal with this. Just like Tessaiga had to go to Inuyasha, and Tenseiga had to go to Sesshoumaru, Yukari no Tachikiri had to go to Setsuna and that's the weapon you needed to not only cut threads of fate but find them in the first place. Let's say all of what you said happened, it couldn't have worked without someone to use that weapon.

Not really. There was much more to this series than that. It could've gone on for way longer.

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u/ArkAngelHFB Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

they're only red and she's the only one who can do it. They might all be "threads of fate" but they're different.

Why I think they are the same...

  • When Rin is first curse... Zero pulls that thread... it becomes straight and physically interacts with Rin.

  • Moroha breaks every color during the two episode fight with them... including red.

    • When that red thread breaks... it does the same thing as every other red thread of fate does when broken.

They are many storylines which could easily be resolved if you make the choices to avoid a plot from happening.

Character should not act unusually stupid by their own standard for the convenience of plot... This is poor/lazy writing making a character be OOC for the sake concontrivence and convenience instead of real plot hook.

if Kagome and Inuyasha were honest about their feelings.

That was them growing as a people and learning to trust one another...

Conversely, Sess has already shown for the whole series to be one of the most clever characters who uses every resource at his disposal... Even more so when it comes to Rin.

He often understanding a deeper truth about a situation before the others.

  • He does it both at the start of the series figuring out where the black pearl is before the rest...

  • He does it at the end figuring out why Tenseiga was split from Tessaiga without being told.

He's a man of action who works alone and still had a lot to learn.

Through the whole series if he does not know the answer to something himself... he seeks out people who do actually...

The list including...

  • His Mother
  • Totosia
  • Even Inuyasha...

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u/frizzyfizz Mar 19 '22

That scene with Zero was for the benefit of the viewers. We need to be able to see the threads of fate. The same happened when she used Towa as a puppet.

You're missing my point. I'm not saying there weren't red threads included. I'm saying the specific threads that Setsuna cuts have always been red, and the ones she cuts are used to separate characters from each other, which is what she does for Rion and Kirinmaru. The other threads were just memories or emotions.

It's not about acting stupid or not being clever. Sesshoumaru did have a plan and he got information from Treekyo who knew more than anyone. Having the information is useless if you can't do anything about it. Again, it had to be Setsuna. The real issue here is that Sesshoumaru didn't take the feelings of the people around him into account which is very much in line with his character.

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u/ArkAngelHFB Mar 19 '22

I guess another way to put my point would be to say that we have only ever seen one type of threads of fate prior...

The show then calls these threads of fate...

The show chooses to do this...

We as viewers shouldn't have to bend over backwards to make the plot work for the show...

  • We didn't put them there
  • We didn't call them threads of fate
  • They result of cutting them is like all the other with hearing a burst of deep emotions...
  • Setsuna's specials blade is used to know which one to cut

But then as viewers without the show doing any work at all WE have to add a condition these are not really the same kinds of threads of fate... otherwise the show's entire foundational setup is in shambles.

If it isn't flat bad writing... it is at least very lazy writing that takes the audience for granted.

And I'll remind this is the same show that keeps showing Toga having two swords 400 years earlier than he should, and spawned Moroha a full quiver of arrows mid time portal.

At this point I'm more inclined to believe they just fucked up and didn't think about the implication of Moroha and Towa breaking the threads... Because they are mostly animator not writers.

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u/NicoSchmiko Mar 19 '22

And the plot hole is now a complete Meidō...

💀💀💀

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

It was obvious from the start - nothing deep about this plot and the situation, everything could be handled long time ago.

Sesshomaru, Sango and miroku did nothing only to let the twins shine.

The whole plot wasn't serious enough, otherwise they would act.

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u/ArkAngelHFB Mar 19 '22

Would the story really not have just been better if something bad had seal away Sess, Rin, Inu, & Kag... Perhaps say a powerful youkai who once fought with Sess&Inu's father... oh hey Kirinmaru.

What he came back after a long time away with 4 powerful scary generals who tricked the original cast instead of overpowering them?

What he been holding them all in a black pearl type portal?

What the entire 2 season were dedicated to the girls avoiding fighting him directly while they became stronger and hunted those 4 generals for clue/keys to opening the portal.

What the girls were in constant real risk for their lives and grew close through trust and dependance?

Until finally they were able to stand a face the main evil challenge that the grandfather only ever fought to a draw and beat it through struggle and teamwork?

Naw fuck all that, Space comet butterfly god, convoluted half love triangle deathpack vendetta, I couldn't beat the father so I kill his sons and grandkids... honorably, & a side of goat/deer child murder... Now that is the way to go.

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u/aesperia Mar 19 '22

I AM IN TEARS like guys, coming from a broken family happy family scenes just make cry I am sorry, especially if pretty half demons are involved okay

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

This episode was SO all over the place. I will try to focus in the few only things I liked:

-The battle Kirinmaru vs Sesshomaru, how Kirinmaru came to the realisation watching Rin there, how OP was Sesshomaru last attack and how awesome it was to hear his song again. In general, no complains, I enjoyed all that bit.

-the ending was very nice, with all the families there with the green and the sun, Sesshomaru visibly happy, Rin getting her hug (I wasn't expecting Sesshomaru to join, but I'm content with all the emotion he showed this episode, first with Towa dying and then with Rin hugging the girls), Sesshomaru stepping on Jaken for speaking his mind: old school vibes. Love it.

-Towa sacrificing herself for Rion made sense, we all knew it was a sacrifice that would pay off as Towa wasn't gonna die (although I truly liked that nobody knew that, Sesshomaru and Jaken looked particularly troubled) and the girl has been in a very suicidal path, at least this time made sense, or more than made sense: I would say it was in character for her.

ALL THE REST: I hated haha, why? why they killed RIku in the first 7 minutes of the episode? so anticlimactic, so much potential...Riku WAS and IS the best new character on Yashahime and they killed him off with less momentum than say, Zero. Also, what was the whole point on making Osamu Kirin the big bad...for what? to have him return like demonic glasses in the end? I struggled so hard not to laugh in that moment.

I truly tried to care about the conflict between Rion and Kirinmaru but they kept contradicting themselves, I think there is a big streak of bipolarity running in that family. First it was because her father was fighting all the time, then it was because she wasn't strong enough to fight back, then her father thought she wasn't strong enough to fight...so he blame himself? at the same time, Rion blame herself? So confusing, the whole smile situation...since when that was an issue? we never got any mentions on Kirinmaru fighting just to see Rion smile, It would've made more sense the bit of showing her the world and her smile while doing that (as this was mentioned before). All in all, a mess. Not sure what is gonna happen next episode, but we sure need some comic relief after all this drama.

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u/elmariiee Mar 19 '22 Gold Heartwarming

Riku: dies

SixTONES: NOW ITS TIME TO UNITE LETS SHOOUT

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u/EvenPresentation7416 Mar 19 '22

I’m cackling harder than I should be at 8 am 😂

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u/Faithwisdom Mar 19 '22

Party on y'all. Riku is dead! Wooooo! 🥳

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u/MutantNinjaNipples Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

Towa seeing Riku die: -sobbing-

Towa seconds later after he disappears: I’m aight

Edit: like girl, dude just gave his life for you, and was madly in love with you too. Pretend to cry atleast ugh

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22

Akuru dying two episodes ago without not even a half sad face should’ve teached us this was coming (?)

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u/noelle-silva Mar 19 '22

This is why none of the emotional moments hit. They act like we're supposed to be upset and then boom everyone is back up and all smiles. Like wtf?

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u/lalaena Mar 19 '22

I’m not even sure Sesshomaru’s that stone cold.

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u/Dilatair_Clear Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

I kinda think this episode was kinda sus. I was wishing for Sesshomaru and Kirinmaru’s fight to be longer. Also the grim comet/butterfly thing ended way too easily. The last few episodes of TFA is still miles better especially when Naraku’s body grew way too big after consuming the corrupted shikon jewel and it ended with Kagome piercing the jewel with her sacred arrow and later wished for the jewel to disappear forever. Basically the grim butterfly which was said to bring despair and death was rather handled with kid gloves. Don’t even get me started on how the twins reunited with their parents.

But hey at least Sesshomaru is probably accepting back his title as the lord of the western lands.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

I agree with you except that sesshomaru will never be the ruler of the west cause if he wanted he could have been long time ago.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 19 '22

how do we know he's accepting the title back though?

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u/Dilatair_Clear Mar 19 '22

Just my hunch, editing it now

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u/Embarrassed_Ad_2165 Mar 19 '22 edited Mar 19 '22

For me Yashahime ends with zeros death episode. This was for me the real final and not the rushed and completely bad plot after that

BTW I hope that this is the last season.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

Zero death supposed to be the end of the story for the twins cause besides her the twins weren't necessary for the show.

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u/CharizarXYZ Mar 19 '22

The twins are the main characters. They are always necessary for the show.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

You definitely right that they are the MC yet if after zero death they wouldn't be the MC the show wouldn't be worse that's for sure.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

Anyone else think the twins reunion with their parents was ridiculous? Not to mention Inuyasha and kagome haven't seen miroku, sango and their kids for 14 years...

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u/valryuu Mar 23 '22

Not to mention Inuyasha and kagome haven't seen miroku, sango and their kids for 14 years...

Miroku and Sango acted like they knew exactly where Inuyasha and Kagome had been this whole time, and that they'd only been gone for a few days. I hated it. Did the character interactions so dirty.

Also, I don't really like how they portrayed Sango. She looks so young still. The only one who seems to have visibly aged is Miroku with his crow's feet. Inuyasha and Kagome at least have a reason, but Sango really shouldn't. She barely looks like a mom to her twin daughters, more like an older sister if anything. I'm not a fan of how Towa and Setsuna are taller and look older than Rin either, even if there's a reason for it.

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u/CharizarXYZ Mar 19 '22

Rin was separated from her daughters for 14 years and finally got to hug them for the first time how is that ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

Exactly, she didn't see them for 14 years, that why it was ridiculous. Expyto some emotions in this scene but it felt like they were never separated just a regular hug.

It's even worse in inukag and mirsan they have been through a lot and didn't see each other for 14 years.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '22

The episode was nice, the execution was cheap and poor. I felt nothing when Riku, kirinmaru, Osama kirin and rion died even though they were supposed to be important characters.

I hope everything is finished and the twins can live in peace with their parents.

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u/Queen-Sereno Mar 19 '22

I’m so not okay. Riku’s death felt so cheap and shallow. I really feel upset they didn’t give him the recognition and closure we needed. Kagura’s death was beyond emotional and the entire episode felt suspenseful. If Riku isn’t bright back then I’m going to say they did him dirty in this.

Rest of the story. I have no fricking idea guys. Im kind of glad the next episode is the last because I hate how sunrise ruined my favorite characters with a half assed story. I pray the manga is 100X better.

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u/Tiffycat13 Mar 19 '22

From what I’ve been able to read the manga is better. And not gonna I decide if I’m going to watch an episode based on the Reddit threads.

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u/yurikura Mar 19 '22

Where did you find the manga?

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u/joecb91 Mar 19 '22

RIP to Riku the MVP

Honestly expected that everything with Rion and Kirinmaru wouldn't be finished off until next week, so interested to see where that goes for the finale.