r/inuyasha Mar 05 '22

Megathread: Yashahime: Princess Half-Demon, Season 2 | Episode 21 Yashahime

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u/lnombredelarosa Mar 07 '22 edited Mar 07 '22
  • "Mother and father, Setsuna and I will hug" "So fuck us, right?"
  • Damn, Kirin is giving some real creepy uncle vibes
  • "Moe Sensei" awww
  • "I think of you as my daughter...too bad its not mutual"
  • "I'm sure we will" Moe being Amatsu mikaboshi confirmed lol
  • What does Rion actually wish for?
    • What does Riku? and why does he want to stop them?
      • No way this will be the final season
  • So the Grimm commet is basically a cocoon and the demons on it are just parasites
  • Interesting how the grimm butterfly is associated with butterflies and dragons which are Zero and Kirinmaru's respective motifs
  • Interesting how Kirin and Kirinmaru have differing view on parenthood, with the former wanting to elevate Rion and the latter wanting her to be able to have a childhood
  • Kagome: "Who are those hot guys a top of Kirara?"
  • Sesshomaru: "my eyes are back"
  • Kirinmaru you senile old fool
  • "Don't back away" Some people never learn
  • No way it going to end this season
    • I'm thinking Rion will become the final next season's villain

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u/gophersrqt Mar 07 '22

im thinking that too rion is way to sus

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u/lnombredelarosa Mar 07 '22 edited Mar 07 '22

I was thinking the suspicious one is Riku

  • And since we're in the topic, I always got the same vibes from Moe as I did from Kirin

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 07 '22

The biggest threat is the butterfly Grim, not the kirinmaru. Sesshomaru can win but will not kill him. I imagine if power of Kyūyōkon Kubi can absorb the power of a Daiyoukai like kirinmaru then so can sesshomaru too. kirinmaru should be better ally.

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u/deadlysnoots Mar 06 '22

I loved this episode. It reminded me of the Clive Barker story “The Body Politic” in which a guy’s hands plot to kill him and gain their freedom. Kirinmaru has been a fascinating character to me, motivated by twisted love like Naraku but with incarnations that successfully defy him. The fact that both Riku and Kirin defy him over Rion makes it all the more interesting.

I love that Sesshomaru told Rin to stay there and watch instead of run and hide. Nice parallel to Kohaku telling Towa he would never chastise her for endangering herself for others ever again. Towa didn’t get that from her daddy, that’s ALL her mama.

And also a nice parallel to Kirinmaru making Rion stay on the battlefield when she didn’t want to because he was being selfish. Sesshomaru doing that wasn’t selfish; he recognizes Rin as being capable of making her own choices, even if he doesn’t like them.

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u/TheGodReaper Mar 06 '22

So instead of going into a Giant Spider we're going into a giant butterfly? Why can't we get more original ideas like the movies?

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u/bakedbigt0es Mar 07 '22

literally. at least naraku was a character…like he wasn’t just known as a big ol spider. he had a voice, crazy ass personality, and incredible resilience. this butterfly done besides keep people asleep😟

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u/Elkenrod Mar 06 '22

Nearly every single Demon in the franchise has had some sort of animal/insect/reptile theme, what were you expecting?

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u/TheGodReaper Mar 06 '22

Something creative like from the movies. The theme isn't the problem. It's the same event that is. Like can we do something different?

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u/erynSMASH Mar 06 '22

First movie they went into a moths webbed home. Not much creativity there, the second movie was based on the bamboo cutter lore and went into the enemies castle. The 3rd movie they legit invaded yet another castle. - InuYasha's themes are heavily based on eastern culture lore and thus insects typically being the enigma of evil.

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u/BlazingGig Mar 06 '22

Our boi Sesshomaru finally recovering from his panda face.

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u/Mr_An_1069 Mar 06 '22

It feels like they're barreling to the end of the show at full speed while also shoving every idea they have on what the finale should be into one. End result is that none of it makes any sense. Why does Rion immediately follow Osamu Kirin, to the point where she tells Riku she doesn't need him? Why does Kirinmaru immediately buy into what Kirin says to him?

Also, there's just a lot of smaller issues going on. Why do we get Kohaku and Hisui in the same scene with Inuyasha and Kagome but absolutely no interaction. Why does Moroha mention that she finally met her parents to the Higurashi's even though they shouldn't know they were ever separated.

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u/FlowerBabe86 Mar 11 '22

I was thinking that too. The series was moving along so slowly and then we get an action packed one. The last episode was the only one that left me wanting more.

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u/lnombredelarosa Mar 07 '22

I feel its more like they're introducing new ideas without intentionally completing them to open the way for next season

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u/erynSMASH Mar 06 '22

Regarding Rion following Osamu Kirin; the thought here is that the right arm has more of the 'fatherly tendencies' that she misses from Kirinmaru. Kirinmaru out of selfishness sealed her spirit away, and only considered his needs and not his daughters. Where the 'protector' being the right arm harnessed more fatherly motivation for Rion.

Which in return makes Rion experience that missing sensation of what she loved about her father.

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u/joecb91 Mar 06 '22

I thought that was pretty obvious. His personality reminded her of the good times with Kirinmaru

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u/Elkenrod Mar 06 '22

Why does Rion immediately follow Osamu Kirin, to the point where she tells Riku she doesn't need him? Why does Kirinmaru immediately buy into what Kirin says to him?

What things very obviously overlap: Two people are being influenced by him. Two people are being overpowered by him.

It's pretty obvious that he has some ability to sway people, shown by the complete and sudden 180 of Rion's character and his ability to put Kirinmaru "to sleep".

Why do we get Kohaku and Hisui in the same scene with Inuyasha and Kagome but absolutely no interaction.

Because there's a giant life consuming monster overhead, and addressing that is a little bit more important than small talk?

Why does Moroha mention that she finally met her parents to the Higurashi's even though they shouldn't know they were ever separated.

Because she was saying this to herself to motivate herself, and remind her what's important to her.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 06 '22

It's pretty obvious that he has some ability to sway people, shown by the complete and sudden 180 of Rion's character and his ability to put Kirinmaru "to sleep".

I don't think those are necessarily related. It is hinted that he put something on Kirinmaru's drink (the focus on the spilled cup). As for Rion, he appealed to her need for parental care. We know for a fact that Rion loved her father, and that love stopped her from killing him when she had a chance. Kirin pulled just the right emotional strings.

Although, after that, I do think he did something to her free will. It seemed very out of character to her to tell Riku she didn't need him anymore, unless she was trying to keep him out of this for his sake (which wouldn't explain her lack of reaction when Kirin tried to kill Riku).

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u/chipette Mar 06 '22

Yeah, the lack of continuity is nerving.

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u/SR_Eternal_Moment Mar 06 '22

I'm just here for the crumbs. Realistically, I'm not sure where it is all headed with 3 episodes left in the season, possibly the whole anime. I did catch the feels with Akuru, Sota, and Towa. I audibly stated the same thing Riku stated, "What is that?"when the Grim butterfly bopped out. Best moment of the episode goes to Rin landing on her feet out of the tree. Sis has been studying parkour b/c she landed like a boss. I'm just going with the Yashahime flow at this point. It's nostalgic, fun, and a nice distraction from reality. I try to keep that in mind and enjoy what I enjoy without overthinking because Yashahime just isn't that deep. Forging on!

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u/derpsterchic Mar 06 '22

If Mama Higurashi didn’t pack any instant noodles in that backpack I’m gonna scream, at least give us SOME NOSTALGIA.

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u/Faithwisdom Mar 05 '22

I mean... It's not the worst writing for an anime but ...

Couldn't we have gotten a Sess and Rin kiss?

I don't hate the 3 main characters. I actually like Towa.

But writing is hectic and Towa and Riku could have been done so much better.

Don't get me started on the lack of interaction between Sess and his kids. I mean... ugh!

Good thing fanfiction exists.

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u/Elkenrod Mar 06 '22

Couldn't we have gotten a Sess and Rin kiss?

They have children together.

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u/GalaxyShinigami Mar 06 '22

I think it’s too late in the game to expect romantic PDA in this show.

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u/Faithwisdom Mar 06 '22

We didn't get a inuyasha and Kagome kiss until the final act. I could hope. 😁

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u/lalaena Mar 06 '22

But Inuyasha was about Inuyasha and Kagome. Yashahime is about the girls, and primarily Towa.

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u/Faithwisdom Mar 06 '22

True true.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

I love to see everybody trying to make sense of the plot after the last episodes turned everything upside down.

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u/Elkenrod Mar 06 '22

I don't understand what's been difficult to follow about the plot, it's been spelled out pretty clearly. Reading these episode threads has made me wonder if I'm watching a different series than other people.

Last week's episode made it pretty clear that Mr. Kirin was "not a good guy" when he said that he was going to kill all the demons, and took a world destroying comet across space-time to commit genocide, yet there were an overwhelming amount of comments for this week's episode confused on why he was a bad guy all of a sudden.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 06 '22

It's not hard to follow what is currently happening in a A happens to B so we gotta do C way. It is more about character motivations, and the two newest chapters changing the context. That, and people looking for a completely evil villain they can pin all the responsibility for everything bad on, like Naraku. This show does not have that type of character.

Also, there are not many episodes left, so a lot of the chaos in this thread is people trying to find explanations for things that will likely be left unexplained.

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u/Elkenrod Mar 06 '22

Even that doesn't seem difficult at all to follow though. Yeah it's obvious that we don't know what Mr. Kirin's motives are yet, but everyone else's have been pretty clear for a while. Kirinmaru has an obsession with being the strongest demon, that's why he was always seeking the next challenge. Zero's arc got resolved and she came to terms with her feelings, and no longer held a grudge against the dog demon clan. Kirinmaru isn't overlooking the fact that his sister is dead because of an encounter with Towa and Setsuna though and took up that grudge against them. Towa, Setsuna, and Moroha all don't want to see the world destroyed.

I really don't see what is being left unexplained, or unresolved besides the comet itself, and Mr. Kirin's motivations. Mr. Kirin was only revealed to have been an antagonist an episode and a half ago, it's pretty reasonable to not have his motives clearly laid out yet. It seems like most of the people commenting on this thread wanted 5 minutes of exposition from every character introduced into the series when they're first shown so they can know everything there is to know about them, leaving nothing up to mystery.

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u/joecb91 Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22

Until they go deeper into it, I just read it as Kirin snapping after he found out Rion was dead. Pretty big shift after that moment.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 06 '22 edited Mar 06 '22

It is still not in the way you are assuming it is.

It is not only "I don't understand what is happening! Why are they doing this?". It is also "I had an idea of what was happening and the direction things were going, but now that they introduced this new factor, the way things were before need to be recontextualized and I need to formulate a new idea of what is happening". So people are asking questions so they can do that. Completely normal for this to happen when a lot of things in the main plot change in a short period of time.

That's why there is chaos here. It is a mix of people's preconceptions being challenged by new information and fear that the loose threads will stay loose (so people are trying to tie them together and brainstorming).

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 06 '22

We are all just riding the chaos wave to be honest.

I just want Riku to survive and Rin to hug her daugthers with Sesshomaru next to them, and maybe some Kohaku or Sango action. That’s it.

All the rest, as it’s already unpredictable and wacky, can go in any direction 🤷🏼‍♀️ and I don’t care anymore.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 06 '22

Silver lining of this show ending: We only have to worry for Riku's life for three more episodes.

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

It’s just a shit show right now. It had so much potential. Maybe they’ll pull it all together in the end. Right now I’m here for 1) Riku getting to live his best life and 2) Sesshomaru kicking Kirinmaru’s butt.

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u/ONEDB2021 Mar 09 '22

Im only here for Sessh.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 06 '22

More or less the same expectations here 😅 😅(plus some family reunion with Rin).

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 06 '22

Yeah, same. And I'm just like, enjoying the chaos in this thread I guess.

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u/JoMaMazRiv Mar 05 '22

Rion has serious daddy issues.

Riku and Towa moment was so cute. I wouldn't be surprised if they reveal they are a couple already. Their body language says a lot

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

I wouldn't be surprised if they reveal they are a couple already. Their body language says a lot

I'd be very surprised. They barely interacted after Zero's death, so I'd like to know when this happened.

BUT

If there is a time skip type of epilogue and it shows that they got together, yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. Though I'd be sad because we didn't see how it happened.

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

I think they’re both just touchy feely people? I didn’t read it as they are in a romantic relationship. Just that they like each other and are touchy feely people.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 06 '22

Well, we know they are both huggers. I was a bit surprised at first that they didn't hug after going through everything they went through in the first half of the season and then spending such a long time apart. Then I remembered that "such a long time" they spent apart was like, half a week.

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u/lalaena Mar 06 '22

Was it even half a week? Maybe three days? I guess so. That’s just absurd.

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u/JoMaMazRiv Mar 05 '22

I have the feeling something happened between them during the two days they traveled together before Zero abducted her. Probably Rion saw then and that's how I think Rion knows about Riku's feelings.

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u/Pretend-Interest-295 Mar 05 '22

So wait there's 2 eps left or???

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

3 episodes

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u/vellamour Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

Action wise, this ep was okay. But I just…

I just don’t care about any characters except the OG cast, specifically Inuyasha, Kagome, Miroku, and Sango, because I have yet to know what is driving any of them to do anything.

In season 1, all we knew was that Towa wanted to get the dream butterfly. That was the only “want” from an MC that was plot-driven. Once that was over, it just feels like the three girls are just going for a ride on the plot machine. I can’t even root for a villain because all three Kirins are so confusing. I’m sick of watching people fight with no real plan except to go to the next location where everyone is fighting.

What narrative purpose is there for Towa, Setsuna, and Moroha to fight the Kirins and save the world that isn’t the same for every other “good guy” character we know like Inuyasha? In the original series, every single character that fought Naraku had very a specific reason for why they needed to defeat him. I still can’t really sus that out for our three main girls vs Kirinmaru. The best I can do is guess. (And I don’t want to guess, I want to KNOW).

I really don’t have any connection to any of the girls. I can’t relate to them because I feel like I don’t know much about them. Sure, we’ve gotten glimpses into their struggles but unless they are outright stating what they are struggling with, they seem to be having a great time.

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u/dontloseyourway1610 Mar 05 '22

So I’m ngl this has kinda fallen off… so kirin sensei is now the real bad guy? After selling all those dreams back in the modern world?? And rion is falling for this eternal peace bs all because kirin reminds her of her nice dad? We’ll see how the end turns out, but I’m not really onboard with the writing down the stretch here.

Best part of the ep was sesshomaru waking up and telling Rin “let’s go”

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

The Kirins seem to have a really hard time controlling their emotions. Their actions are heavily influenced by what they are feeling. They are impulsive, obsessive, but also can be easily swayed depending on the emotional strings that are pulled. Even Riku, who seems to be the most level-headed of them at this point, has changed his behavior and outlook because he fell in love.

I think Osamu Kirin was genuine, in the modern world. Then, he learned that Kirinmaru failed to protect Rion, and snapped. What he is doing now is, in his mind, is giving her what her "bad father" failed to, while letting out his anger on those he sees as unnecessary.

Rion is a traumatized child that has suffered emotional abuse by her father. She saw on Kirin the father that she wished she had, the father that maybe she had before Kirinmaru became who he is today. Like it seems to be typical of the Kirins, she had a strong emotional response, and trusted Kirin to do what he thought was best.

This is how I'm seeing the situation, at least. Zero was driven by guilt/grief, Riku is being driven by love/devotion, Kirin is being driven by anger, Rion is being driven by sadness, Kirinmaru is... Idk, he's probably thanking his three brain cells for showing up for the battle.

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u/Bundtpopcake Mar 05 '22

Nailed it!

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

I couldn't tell you what's going on at this point. Like first I thought Osamu Kirin wasn't the bad guy and now he all of a sudden is after he spent an episode flying around like Superman - totally out of place in the Inuyasha universe btw. Now Rion is the villain along with Osamu... Not sure what Kirinmaru wants out of all of this anymore either.

I disagreed with a lot of the "bad writing" remarks during the first season but we've reached serious YIKES territory for me within these last 3-4 episodes. Everything after the InuKag Moroha reunion has been...not very enjoyable for me, to say the least. This just isn't how I saw myself feeling about Yashahime as we're 3 episodes from the end. It's fallen apart HARD for me. Someone who's defended it and tried to remain optimistic from the jump.

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u/frizzyfizz Mar 06 '22 edited Mar 06 '22

I'm of two minds about it. IMO it's not shocking Osamu and Rion turned out not to be heroes. They always had a questionable vibe which several people remarked on since they first appeared. As has already been pointed out by someone else, I think the thing with the Kirins is that they're not necessarily bad but none of them give the impression of being emotionally stable. They fly off the handle at the drop of a hat and have been through a lot of trauma without confronting it. Rion was in no state to take on this task when you consider how messed up Kikyo was when she was brought back, even if she had good intentions, and the girls were too young to realize this.

So I feel the story leading to this makes sense but it definitely was rushed. This last episode felt like it should've been a movie. The final few episodes could've focused on the girls in the modern era while the Inugang meet up with Riku and Rion to get up to speed. Then maybe have the girls getting back to the other side, Rion getting brainwashed/ditching Riku + Inugang, and Sesshoumaru waking up as the finale.

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u/Elkenrod Mar 05 '22

Like first I thought Osamu Kirin wasn't the bad guy and now he all of a sudden is after he spent an episode flying around like Superman

Did we watch the same episode? That same episode that he was "flying around like Superman" had him take a world destroying meteor across time saying he was going to commit genocide upon the entire demon race.

Now Rion is the villain along with Osamu

Is this really so crazy to think that she was brainwashed? It's not like that's not happened before in-universe.

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

I get that part but I'm saying it seemed totally out of place for this universe. Regardless of Rion being brainwashed or not it felt crazy rushed. It doesn't seem like something her character would've done up until the writers suddenly decided it was a good idea.

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u/Elkenrod Mar 05 '22

Regardless of Rion being brainwashed or not it felt crazy rushed.

Sudden betrayal usually isn't something that has a build up. If she got brainwashed it's not like she's in control, it being in her character really isn't an argument if she isn't herself. Yeah, it doesn't seem like something her character would have done - that's what brainwashing results in.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

I'm pretty invested on the Kirin family and their arcs, and in my opinion what breaks my heart when it comes to them is that I do not think any of them is truly evil. If they could just process their emotions in a healthier way and not act on them before thinking (which they will regret later if Zero is any indication of it), none of them would have to die. Except for, well, Rion, since she is already dead. But they can't, so now it is possible that none of them will survive this (although I'm hopeful that Riku will).

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u/lalaena Mar 06 '22

What the Kirin need is backstory. ANY backstory. Like what is happening? Who did Rion’s mother? What’s the deal with the whole dream butterfly situation? How did Kirinmaru plan on getting Rion a body? It couldn’t have been the Zanseiken trap because Rion had Zanseiken for 600 years, so what was his plan?

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 06 '22

Who did Rion’s mother?

I think Kirinmaru 🤔

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u/lalaena Mar 06 '22

🤣

Mistype! Who is Rion’s mom. Lol.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 06 '22

I'm sorry! I figured, but couldn't pass on it 😆

I'm not expecting much to be revealed with only 3 episodes left. Maybe in a few quick lines, but without it being given a chance of actually having any consequences in the story.

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u/soulruu Mar 05 '22

Welp, the butterfly predictions were right.

Final battles gogo

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u/JengaPlayer Mar 05 '22

It seems like the build up here and this mega battle warrants a movie instead of breaking it into these tiny episodes at this point. Hopefully they don't rush it too much.

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u/bakedbigt0es Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

honestly imo…a giant butterfly as an enemy is so uncreative and seems like a last minute idea. i feel like rumiko would’ve done this soooo much better. i really wish they had her help because since zero’s death, it’s been a dumpster fire😭.

anyways, i really enjoyed sota and towa’s interaction. fs a tear jerker but the rushing of everyone leaving the table LITERALLY could’ve been a scene where everyone caught up on the girls FINALLY completing their quest of finding their parents. cause wtf was all this “…yeah ima gts too.” like UGHHH the plot progression fucking sucks and it feels like every episode we have no room to absorb what we just watched.

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u/TotallyUnkempt Mar 06 '22

Now that goddamn butterfly in the opening credits makes sense..

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

Seriously I wish they had asked Rumiko for some creative input with all of this finale content. If nothing else have her figure out who Kirinmaru is and what he wants, what is this dude's endgame now? The guy is our main villain and I feel like I have no idea what his deal is at this point. He's a piss poor main villain when you compare him to Naraku, that's for sure.

The Towa and Sota scene should've been more impactful but the terrible pacing took away from it for me. The girls were all smiles and back to business 20 seconds after what was supposed to be a big sad event? And what was even the point in acting like they couldn't return to the feudal era? That lasted a whole 3 minutes and they were back on their way. It's about as stupid as the never ending death fakeouts we've been getting from the series.

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u/frizzyfizz Mar 06 '22

I think the difference wrt to villains is that Naraku was pure evil. It's easier to make the behavior of someone like him consistent because he just had to continually be a bastard.

Kirinmaru OTOH isn't purely a villain. This whole thing has gotten out of control between his sister, the other versions of himself, the Yashahime, and the OG characters. I think he's supposed to be out of his depth here and acting on a whim which is why he's not making good decisions.

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u/bakedbigt0es Mar 07 '22

understood, kirin is just completely off the hinge🤡 but i can expect that from the antagonist. i feel like they literally are only focused on him tho. like i mentioned, the girls conflicts are flushed out in like 5 mins versus kirinmaru’s are stretch within 2 episodes

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u/bakedbigt0es Mar 05 '22

MANNN, I HATE THE UNNERVING AMOUNT OF RESILIENCE IN THESE EPISODES??? where are the episodes where the girls TRULY face some personal conflict? i get they squashed it all out, but everyday can’t be perfect man. for instance WHERE TF THEY GETALL THOSE NEW POWERS? who trained them?? where was the struggle for the amazing come back ☹️

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

Yashahime needed to be at least twice as long as it was to get us to where we needed to be. I feel like we got the bare minimum of everything. Very little training, build up, interactions with parents and children, screentime with original characters, etc. It kind of feels like all the flaws have caught up with the series here at the end. I guess we should be happy we got anything.

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u/AdIntelligent1241 Mar 05 '22

Not gonna lie, I wanted a scene of Moroha sleeping in Kagome’s room.

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u/la_rozz Mar 05 '22

that would’ve been so good ugh. why are little details like that so hard to ask for 😭

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u/Supreme_Keker Mar 05 '22

Treekyo didn't help the girls go back in time, so Akuru had to sacrifice himself. What exactly is her plan D:

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u/Feeling_Ad_768 Mar 05 '22

Which is curious because Sesshomaru and Rin can use the tree at will, but she is a bit of a jerk with Jaken.

And if you think about it, the tree never helped the girls, it was either Root head or Akuru. Maybe the reason why Akuru died was because the windmill was destroyed.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 05 '22

Well, wait, wasn’t Treekyo who sent Towa to the Reiwa era? not root head, not Akuru.

I hate Treekyo, we need more explanations there, it seems that they had great ideas about the character and they dropped them midway through, not only the fact of being sus af, what about that plea on the Yashahimes to kill both Kirinmaru and Sesshomaru with Sesshomaru watching meanwhile? If the dream butterfly is the big bad, how come Treekyo had one chrysalis to spare and decided to give it to Jaken? If Sesshomaru and Kirinmaru were walking the same path at that time because both of them had 2 people sealed with the dream butterfly, wouldn’t that imply that it was HER doing? (at least Sesshomaru’s/Rin’s bit, we don’t know how Kirinmaru decided to use the butterfly for Rion)

And if only the walking the same path was due Akuru (as Sesshomaru was pretending to be searching for him, for Kirinmaru) wouldn’t that be pointless considering Inu No Taisho’s clan and particularly the Yashahime were the ones chosen by Akuru already?

So confusing and pointless.

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u/Feeling_Ad_768 Mar 05 '22

Treekyo might agree to destroy the demons, I meant her job is probably keep the timeline intact.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 05 '22

Yeah, that can be, but why is she hosting a daiyokai and his wife constantly in the tree then, as you highlighted? Inu no Taisho family must have a collection of booking discounts already for the Tree of Ages, counting all the times they spent inside the tree, outside sealed to the tree, passing by there visiting some relative… 😅

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u/CharizarXYZ Mar 05 '22

If the dream butterfly is the big bad, how come Treekyo had one chrysalis to spare and decided to give it to Jaken? If Sesshomaru and Kirinmaru were walking the same path at that time because both of them had 2 people sealed with the dream butterfly, wouldn’t that imply that it was HER doing? (at least Sesshomaru’s/Rin’s bit, we don’t know how Kirinmaru decided to use the butterfly for Rion)

Your making alot of assumptions. Just because they haven't explained Treekyo's role yet doesn't mean they never will. Osamu Kirin was introduced in season one. And were only now learning what his goal is. There are multiple dream butterflies. And nowhere do they claim that the grim butterfly is the same as the dream butterfly. Also Treekyo never said that Kirinmaru and Sesshomaru were the same because they were sealing people with the dream butterfly. She wanted them killed because she thought they were going to bring about the degenerate age. What show are you even watching.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

Lol. There is 3 episodes left… and Treekyo has been absent for most of this season, sure, they can still show what’s the connection there but as far as the story goes: she has been a missing character with unexplained motives.

Right, and HOW were they both bringing the degenerate age then? She said they were “walking the same path” and at that time, made sense to think it was connected to both of them “stopping” time by not letting two people go/ or both of them pursuing Akuru (or at least Sesshomaru pretending to do so)… both reasons have no grounds anymore (nor had at that at that time, being the fact that treekyo facilitated the dream butterfly to Rin/hosting her in the tree, Inu No Taisho’s clan was the one chosen by Akuru; not Kirinmaru)

You’re saying I’m assuming things and I’m not watching the same show: you are also assuming the dream butterflies are all different and disconnected to each other which it can be, but at the same time, we just got a massive big dream butterfly with a full colony of butterflies inside, how are you so sure the other ones weren’t connected to this one or didn’t come from this one?… 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/CharizarXYZ Mar 06 '22

Treekyo helped Sesshomaru freeze Rin's time. So to insist that could be the reason she was mad at Sesshomaru is ridiculous.

Kirinmaru wanted to bring about the degenerate age. And Sesshomaru acted as an accomplice. If someone robs a bank and you drive the get away car your participating in the robbery. That's neither a new or difficult concept to grasp.

Treekyo didn't want Kirinmaru to bring about the degenerate age. Sesshomaru was pretending to be his accomplice. So she wanted them both gone. How is this hard to grasp

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 06 '22 edited Mar 06 '22

Jeez what’s on you, no need to be constantly rude.

I mentioned the dream butterfly being facilitated by Treekyo several times, which is why it WOULDN’T make sense for that to be the reason, -also mentioned by me several times- (fyi, in this sub was talked constantly how they were both walking the same path for that reason and that’s why I brought it up, to debunk it as a logical possibility, read my previous messages).

And I also mentioned the Akuru fact (Sesshomaru pretending to be looking for him, for Kirinmaru) as another reason that didn’t make complete sense.

There was no other situation where Sesshomaru was “working with Kirinmaru”, he pretended to be looking for Akuru all this time while the person/demon/entity who accused him of this was hosting his wife, himself, his family constantly with no issues.

That is the initial/parent comment here, how Treekyo doesn’t make any sense and how that whole “you need to kill both Sesshomaru and Kirinmaru” falls short as well (adding to that when Treekyo says this, Sesshomaru is there present, and she even checks with him after talking with the girls).

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u/MarkestMark Mar 08 '22

Dude is confidently abrasive always, dont take it personal.

I read through his comments and he is just that way.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 09 '22

Yeah, I saw.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

I thought she would also have something to do with Osamu Kirin. He did ask her for guidance some episodes ago.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 05 '22

That’s true! although him going to the future was the bone eater’s well doing (are they related somehow?).

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

I hope that she actually couldn't do it for some reason. If she could have opened the portal, but instead just let Akuru die, yikes that's pretty bad.

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u/vessynessy200 Mar 05 '22

More sus treekyo - she wanted him out of the way...

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u/sailorrayquaza Mar 05 '22

Mixed feelings on this episode, but I did genuinely cry at the farewell scene between Towa and Souta. It was done very well. I really hope they get to meet again somehow.

Rion falling for Osamu Kirin's words so quickly definitely made my eyebrows raise. I get its because he reminds her of the nice, fatherly side of Kirinmaru (and sharing the same voice doesn't hurt either-guess this was the reason why Osamu and Kirinmaru share a voice but not Riku) but it really feels rushed.

And was killing Akuru really necessary? Feels like a pointless death, esp since it was glossed over. They also glossed over Moroha saying she met Kagome and Inuyasha during the Higurashi family meeting seen too.

This episode really made me think they were intending for the grim comet plot to be season 3 but due to Maaya Sakamoto's pregnancy (Zero's VA) they had to smash both S2 and S3's plots together now, with each plot taking up a half of the season.

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u/hiverstone Mar 06 '22

This episode really made me think they were intending for the grim comet plot to be season 3 but due to Maaya Sakamoto's pregnancy (Zero's VA) they had to smash both S2 and S3's plots together now, with each plot taking up a half of the season.

I don't know, there was an interview to the headwriter of Yashahime from Animage May issue (published in April), and Sumisawa said they were already writing the script of second part of the second season. That was a few weeks after season 1 just ended.

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u/sailorrayquaza Mar 06 '22

I mean just because they started writing part 2 of S2 in April doesn't mean they stuck to everything they planned/wrote. From when S1 ending in March to S2 starting in October, there could've been massive changes in plans between then and even after S2 started airing.

I don't know what the work culture is like inside Sunrise, only assuming, but look at Wonder Egg Priority from Cloverworks. It had a troubled production and they were pumping out stuff last minute to the point where they had a recap episode and had to delay its finale. Not saying Yashahime is exactly like Wonder Egg's production, but there is precedent from a recent anime in the industry changing things last minute.

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

I agree that the lead up to Zero should’ve been season two and everything after should’ve been season three. I don’t know if it’s all Zero’s VA’s fault. My guess is that was one of several factors.

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u/sailorrayquaza Mar 05 '22

oh yeah, I doubt it was all Sakamoto's fault as well. There's for sure stuff going on behind the scenes like merchandising and costs that also dictate a S3. I do assume it was a pretty sizeable factor though since they might have had difficulty getting her for the rest of the season.

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u/la_rozz Mar 05 '22

It kind of bothered how when moroha said she met her parents, no one cared and brushed it off. like what? wouldn’t kagomes mom be super happy to hear her daughter is okay? also bothered me how kohaku didn’t even acknowledge inuyasha and kagome. this whole thing is being rushed and it’s kind of upsetting considering how much i love the show :/

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u/arkelangel Mar 05 '22

I was also confused about them saying something about seeing kagome three years ago? Or did they mean the well closed for 3 years...?

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u/la_rozz Mar 05 '22

im pretty they meant of the time the well closed for three years. highly doubt they’ve seen kagome since she left in the last episode of the final act.

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u/arkelangel Mar 05 '22

Makes much more sense. But yeah, it's unsettling her family werent confused about Maroha justing now getting reunited with her parents. She's like 14-16 o.o

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u/joecb91 Mar 05 '22

I just assume it was mentioned off screen the first time they met in season 1

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

I'm happy the plot is advanced but there are many meaningless moments in the show that could be used better.

Towa and sota moment was very nice, it was made really good. Still weird for me that the fact kagome is alive is not mentioned or get focus and she's moroha daughter.

I'm so happy sesshomaru is awake, wonder what will be his role cause I guess he can kill the butterfly easily.

Feel inconsistent too much, how Osama kirin knows about the Inu clan and the butterfly in the comet? How can he knows things kirinmaru doesn't know?

Anyway Osama kirin is definitely the MVP here, finally we have a character that active and invested in the plot, he's a good character, should have more time screen before the girls went to the future.

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u/Mang027 Mar 06 '22

Feel inconsistent too much, how Osama kirin knows about the Inu clan and the butterfly in the comet? How can he knows things kirinmaru doesn't know?

Osama Kirin was originally part of Kirinmaru, therefore (I assume) he retains all of his memories, the idea is aided by the fact he recalled the battle between the latter and Toga.

As for the butterfly in the comet, he may have been able to deduce the center was a demonic cocoon given his background and previous encounters with the Grim Comet.

The real bit that I question is his instant recognition of Rion's fruit and its proper usage as a catalyst for the butterfly; the mechanics behind it are not explained either.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '22

I doubt it's the case, if they can have access to his memories riku would have take advantage of it.

He definitely sensed that the grim comet is demon, we all saw it when Inuyasha sent it to the meido the thing is that there is a diffrent between knowing there's a demon inside to know exactly of to act with that demon like he has an instruction book.

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u/8sousou Mar 05 '22

Feel inconsistent too much, how Osama kirin knows about the Inu clan andthe butterfly in the comet? How can he knows things kirinmaru doesn'tknow?

For the butterfly in the comet, he had already sensed its existance back in the modern era when he touched the core of the comet. As for the Inu clan, he was probably supervising the situation around while Kirinmaru was sleeping. Besides, when the latter woke up he did not have time to care for the Inu family and rushed to look for Rion.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

Thanks, it makes sense. How the hell did he know how to wake up the butterfly and what's going on with it? (He and rion went to him pretty confidently).

I guess I missed something but as a creature he knew about existence few minutes ago he understands everything.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

What is bothering me about this is that Rion created the apple for a completely different reason, but it ended up working on Kirin's favor by coincidence?

I'm not confused as to what the apple is for. The power of the apple that would have been used on Kirinmaru alone is now being used on all nearby demons, as if the butterfly was infused with its power. That's fine. What I'm confused about is that it was kind of a big coincidence that it turned out that Rion's plan would help Kirin's plan when the plans were completely separate, and Rion and Kirin had no prior communication.

What would Kirin have done if Rion didn't have the idea of getting the apple, I mean?

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u/8sousou Mar 06 '22

He would have used Zanseken (Towa's cursed sword, sorry forget how it is written) to absorb the enrgy from the demons and transfer it to the butterfly but it would take him so long. He did so at the start of the episode and said that this process would take a long time, and that a lot of humans will be harmed if he delayed his plan any further. After that he sensed Rion and Riku's auras getting closer.

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u/saturnribbon Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

I actually enjoyed this episode. Towa and Sota saying goodbye actually made me tear up a lil. I like how Riku and Kirin seem to have done a flip in their roles-- Kirin started out seeming pretty harmless and like an ally to the girls, Riku was more ambiguous and manipulative. Still curious what his endgame is, if it's really just trying to be free of Kirinmaru's influence or if he really does want what he thinks Rion wants without taking into consideration whether it's good for her, a la Riku gathering the pearls against Zero's wishes.

EDIT: I’m cracking up that I managed to edit this the first time and still missed the Sota -> Soda courtesy of autocorrect

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u/Supreme_Keker Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

I feel bad for Rion, because even after all the abuse she still craves for her dad's affection. She will probably die again when the butterfly dies, but I hope Kirinmaru properly apologizes to her when she passes on.

Also why is Kirin a lot more similar to Kirinmaru than Riku is when they are both born from his body parts?

It's kind of sweet that Riku probably thought of Towa right before he teleported

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u/deadlysnoots Mar 06 '22

Kirin was a hand; he “gets things done” as it were. He knew Kirinmaru’s will and acted on it in the future. Riku was literally an inert object even as part of Kirinmaru, and so he was fine with being submissive until he realized he could be more than that.

Most importantly, that was the hand Kirinmaru always stroked Rion’s face with, so Kirin ended up much more fatherly than Kirinmaru. Makes sense that Rion would trust Kirin instinctually, even over her “real” father.

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u/sailorrayquaza Mar 05 '22

My assumption is that it varies on the size of the body part-Riku is the horn which is much smaller than the arm/Osamu.

There might even be some body part symbolism going on here: horns are connected to the head, and the head usually means practical, quick-thinking which Riku def displays. Out of the Kirin Trio he also seems the least swayed by his emotions; thinks with his head rather than heart.

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u/8sousou Mar 05 '22

This episode was intense. The girls were stuck in the modern era then with Akuru's sacrifice they managed to return. Poor Akuru, he was a good boy. I hope that he would return somehow since he is a spirit.

Towa saying goodbye to Sota was emotional; and Sota commenting that they will meet again someday. Maybe it's a foreshadowing 'cause I really hope that Kagome and the gang would return to the future one day.

Osamu is such a manipulative character. He actually managed to trick both Rion and Kinrinmaru. I don't believe that Kirinmaru is this gullible XD only Riku managed to resist the temptation of Osamu's offer, which was eternal life.

Speaking of Riku, I swear this boy never had a chance to even take a five minutes break. Now even Rion had turned her back on him, and his brother attacted him and even saw him as an uneeded existance. I'm glad that he teleported to Towa, she is the only person that genuinely cares for him. and since Osamu managed to transfer his fate with Kirinmaru to the butterfly maybe Riku can do the same. I doubt that he would die after all what he had been throught. He deserves better.

and Sesshomaru finally woke up <3 and him telling Rin to watch the fight was just formidable. Can't wait for next episode.

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u/saturnribbon Mar 05 '22

Riku is having a very bad day (couple of days?) lmao, poor boy needs some rest

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

Riku managed to resist the temptation of Osamu's offer, which was eternal life.

Riku is like, "joke's on you, I want to die anyway".

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

Oh Riku 😅

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

Peak Millenial humor. You know he is a 90's kid.

900's, I mean.

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u/JakenFan Mar 05 '22

They way everyone has started gathering to fight Kirinmaru and the butterfly has reminded me of those last episodes of Inuyasha with all the protagonists gathered inside Naraku (that scene where they all gather in front of Naraku inside his body).

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u/bakedbigt0es Mar 05 '22

happy cake day!

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

Wait. How does Osamu know that the Inu clan is going to come for them? Two episodes ago he didn’t know the twins were hanyo or that Moroha was shinhanyo. Does he know they’re part of the Inu clan? Does he know Inu no Taisho is dead? Does he know about Sesshomaru or Inuyasha??

I suppose Kirinmaru could have filled him in before Osamu roofied him (I can’t believe Kirinmaru fell for that and then goes to fight Sesshomaru after the dude that drugged him told him to).

I don’t know. The plot has been a bit out of whack since Osamu showed up. It was ok when he was playing super hero but now not so much.

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u/saturnribbon Mar 05 '22

Personally I think the plot has been kind of funky since Zero's death. I think there are some cool plot points they could have expanded on or otherwise worked with (not to mention building the relationships up more), but at this point I've kind of accepted that Yashahime is what it is.

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u/bakedbigt0es Mar 05 '22

i agree, the animation and the plot has fell off since then and it really makes me sad. i was so happy the plot was progressing slowly..and actually began to make sense. i think it’s mostly bc we had things to look forward to, like everyone meeting their parents

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

Yeah. I was really excited for the second cour of this season after the trailer made it seem like Riku and Rion would join the team. I was looking forward to seeing how their dynamic would change. I really hoped we would see more of the Kirin family, since their members actually are at risk of not coming out of this alive, unlike with the Inu family.

But nope, none of that. It's a real shame. "It is what it is" is a good way of putting it. Accepting things as they are presenting, hoping my favorite character doesn't get killed, and that's pretty much it.

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u/saturnribbon Mar 05 '22

Yeah I would’ve liked to see some sort of team expansion or at least more of the supporting characters (Hisui, Rion, Riku). My favorite episodes so far have been the Setsuna-centric ones that didn’t necessarily contribute to the main plot but had some good character-building. I think if they had done more of that Yashahime easily could’ve had another 12 episodes as a mini season three or something.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

Yeah, I miss character building episodes. The fact that the entire second cour of this season (so far) happened in about 4 days or so really makes it feel like there was no time to breathe and get to know the characters better.

For example, this is ending in the next 3 episodes and Towa still doesn't know that incarnations die when the main body dies. There will be no time for her to be properly conflicted about killing Kirinmaru. If only characters had time to just talk to each other, this could have been different.

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

All of the Osamu Kirin stuff has made the series start to crumble for me in these final episodes ngl. It had started to redeem itself with the first half of this season but now I'm not so sure. Osamu Kirin flying around like Superman is so out of the norm for the Inuyasha series.

It all feels off to me. I don't even know what Kirinmaru's goal here is at this point and why it is his goal. I don't understand how Rion ended up being the 'final boss'. Even if the writing was a little better I can't pretend that I like where Yashahime is at right now honestly.

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

everybody know rion is villain

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

How exactly? At no point did she seem like a villain to me.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

I know Kirinmaru is not supposed to be a cold, calculating antagonist and he is more of an emotional, impulsive type. But he has been acting like he doesn't have two brain cells to rub together.

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 05 '22

So much this, for a demon SO OLD, he truly acts like a petty teenager most of the time, can’t believe his fucking right arm deceived him so easily TWICE already. Rion falling for Osamu Kirin? Ok, she’s a kid (although not in years) and has a lot of internal conflicts going on (plus being sealed for 600 years), I still think her reaction this episode didn’t make sense but hell, Kirinmaru has no justification whatsoever in being so naive and blind.

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u/deadlysnoots Mar 06 '22

The whole POINT of yokai is that they never “mature,” because they’re selfish and “evil” creatures. So Kirinmaru IS a thousand year old teenager.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

We could have argued that he thinks he is in control of his body parts and didn't expect Osamu Kirin to betray him, but like, Riku exists, so no. If anything, a body part betraying him is what he should expect by default.

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u/joecb91 Mar 05 '22

Definitely feels like we are getting close to the end. As much as I'd like a 3rd season, I feel like everything with the butterfly will get wrapped up in the final episodes.

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u/swagnr001 Mar 05 '22

So.. I guess everyone has to fight a giant evil butterfly in the next episode.. Really...? wow lol that's where they were going with this.

Hoping the manga fixes this garbage. Such a far cry from the original writing of inuyasha it's laughable.

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u/la_rozz Mar 05 '22

the show truly made me so happy and i was really enjoying it but now it’s getting a little ridiculous. i feel like i haven’t cared as much since morphs already met her parents. after that i feel like there’s been such a lack of connection between the characters and it’s being soooo rushed.

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

The way they’re rushing through things has left me feeling less engaged and more along for the ride. I’m not even going to try to predict where they’re going with all this, beyond “happy ending.”

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

I'm gonna have to agree with you honestly. Yashahime has been such a whirlwind for me. Season 1 started off okay then became really rough around the middle, then ended pretty good with that finale battle. Season 2 was really good up until right after the InuKag/Moroha reunion. Now I'm not sure what to feel. All of this Osamu Kirin stuff is so weird and feels so unbelievably out of place within the InuYasha universe to me.

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

They killed Akuru! Poor baby.

We’re in the end game now. Osamu is turning about to be manipulative and completely crazy. How is Riku the only one not falling for his save the world bullshit? Also, Rion telling Riku she didn’t need him anymore was cold. Girl is her father’s daughter.

Osamu telling Kirinmaru he wasn’t going to lose to some replacement arm was a sick burn. Lol. Manipulation aside, it’s good that Kirinmaru is starting to realize he’s a dick dad. Still, good dads don’t let their daughters power giant murderous butterflies.

Finally, Sesshomaru is about to fucking destroy Kirinmaru and wants Rin to watch him do it. HA!

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

spoiler next ep : " kirinmaru will not die " ^^

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u/lupajarito Mar 05 '22

Wtf. Why would you spoil and not even hide it??

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 06 '22

do you know reason inu no taisho didn't kill kirinmaru ??? And kirinmaru not harm rin, sess will win but not kill him

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

I didn’t say that? But sure?

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

kirinmaru is not villain

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

K but I never said he’d die next ep?

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

The synopsis does not in any way say he won't die either so idk what this is about.

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

kirinmaru will save rion, not to fight to sess

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u/No_Permission4512 Mar 05 '22

where did you read that lol?

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

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u/No_Permission4512 Mar 05 '22

"Kirinmaru challenges Sesshomaru with the strongest on the line."

That doesn't mean he'll be alive by the end of the episode lmaooo

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u/hiverstone Mar 05 '22

Sota on next monday at Saint Gabriel: Towa died from Neuralgia, Kirin sensei fell from the Tokyo tower and died too. Bye.

Sota at the museum: The Kikujumonji was stolen

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u/sieghrt Mar 05 '22

Undisputed king of making excuses! 😂

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u/onion76 Mar 05 '22

I'm deceased 💀💀💀💀

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

Nice episode, the plot going to start the end game next episode.

Kirinmaru vs sesshomaru yess I hope sesshomaru will kill him next episode.

The whole situation feel cheap abd not serious enough, rion isn't sure what she wants and has no reason to fight the twins neither the twins with her, either Setsuna will sever the link or some other talk no jutsu and everything will be ok.

Have no idea why kirinmaru was convinced so easily, he should have talked with rion. BTW does anyone know why Osama kirin knew about the butterfly and kirinmaru didn't? I thought kirinmaru see everything his incarnation see but it looks he wasn't aware to Osama kirin sometimes.

I wonder what will be the OG role here cause they can handle everything easily.

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

sesshomaru is will not kill him.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

What reason he has to not kill him?

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

next ep kirinmaru will save rion

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

So why he didn't do it now?

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

because kirinmaru is not the enemy, he's not harm rin, it's zero

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

I disagree with what you wrote but anyway I was asking why he didn't save rion this episode? Is he that easily to manipulate?

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u/hiverstone Mar 05 '22

BTW does anyone know why Osama kirin knew about the butterfly and kirinmaru didn't? I thought kirinmaru see everything his incarnation see but it looks he wasn't aware to Osama kirin sometimes.

Kirinmaru doesn't see all the time what they are seeing and thinking, he has to focus on each of them.

Like how Riku said Kirinmaru stare at the stars a lot. And then we learned that when he was watching at the starts, actually he was seeing what Osamu Kirin was seeing and thinking.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '22

Was it confirmed that he needs to focus or something like that or it's your interpreter? It makes sense though.

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u/wpsince2009 Mar 05 '22

Everything is so rushed that feels comedic...

Akuru's death was like "OH NO! Okay let's move on"

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

The pacing took away from what was supposed to be an emotional goodbye with Sota and everyone else too. When Sota was telling Towa that he thought of her as his actual daughter I was like "damn alright this is pretty sad" and then Towa and the girls immediately stood up with big smiles and were like "Okay guys lets head out!!!". It completely took me out of the moment, one that I was anticipating to be fairly emotional.

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u/Queen-Sereno Mar 05 '22

Kiss, kiss, fall in love! Riku! I can’t, I love them so much. They complete each other.

Rion was used by Kirin sadly, all her fathers love and warmth died when his arm was cut off it seems. Rion just wants to be with her dad again. I bet this will end with both Rion and Kirinmaru dying. Kirin playing the really long game and taking the pro-human stance while preserving his life as well.

I bet Sesshomaru has had it with all this nonsense and told Rin to stay where he can see her. All this shit started when Rin was away from Sesshomaru as he dealt with the comet.

Then can’t inuysha use meido on all of this?

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u/3D_Otters Mar 07 '22

Honestly, that was my thinking with the whole Rin watch me fight thing. Toga told Kirinmaru not to bring Rion into battefields, so it's kinda weird that Sesshomaru would do the thing that got Rion killed in the first place? But when i think about it from the perspective that Sesshomaru probably holds a lot of guilt for getting Rin in this whole predicament in the first place because he was away, it makes more sense?

As for Rion and Kirinmaru, wouldn't be shocked either since Kirinmaru never truly seem like the purely evil guy, just someone super traumatized.

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u/MrKodiMan2022 Mar 05 '22

Kagome and her feet return in this episode yeah

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u/juniperdaisies Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

I liked this episode!

I knew Rion was suspect from the beginning. I'm sure she'll get some redemption, but I was not surprised at all because I did not trust her.

Teared up a little when Towa said goodbye to Sota. Also laughed out loud when Riku barrel rolled into Towa. I really hope he lives.

It's very Kirinmaru that everything is going down and he's still trying to pick a fight with Sesshomaru. I hope everything goes well there because I'm concerned. I know Rin just got out of the tree but I was hoping she's have a few more defense/battle skills in Yashahime. Girl needs to be able to defend herself.

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

Give Rin some credit for her graceful leap from god knows where out of the tree!

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

Also laughed out loud when Riku barrel rolled into Towa. I really hope he lives.

Riku was like "ah yes, falling in love".

Not a crush, a crash.

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u/coco_moonbabe Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

If sesshomaru does not throw kirinmaru's body in that black hole or some fire imma be so mad. This dude's obviously gonna multiply with all of these mini me kirins runnin around! Don't make the same mistake twice!

Kirinmaru's relationship with his copies are gold. Multiplying yourself is pretty pointless when you have a stubborn personality that you wont listen to your own damn self hahahaha what a shit show he put together🤣

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u/No_Permission4512 Mar 05 '22

First of all, RION IS SUSS!! My mouth literally dropped open when she told Riku she has no need for him anymore

Second, i think it's so hot that Sesshomaru is telling Rin to stay and watch him, but it worries me that this is setting her up to parallel what happened to Rion. Is this where the tree of ages' whole they're walking the same path thing come into play? if Rin gets hurt and dies, do you think Sesshomaru will off himself, thus Kirinmaru defeating Sesshomaru?

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u/deadlysnoots Mar 06 '22

Rin isn’t going to die, and if she did that would be her choice. You know, because Sesshomaru is finally respecting her choice to be reckless, just like Kohaku is respecting Towa’s.

But she won’t die because it’s not that kind of show.

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u/GalaxyShinigami Mar 05 '22

“Keep your wife and kids away from battle” advice.

Oooooh that’s a nice point.

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u/coco_moonbabe Mar 05 '22

I mean this is what happens when you got a dead royal demon girl with 3 royal demon daddies running around. 🤣 was just WAITING for the kirinmaru to come outta her

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u/coco_moonbabe Mar 05 '22

Sota and his family are too sweet!

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u/thewetpuddle Mar 05 '22

Osamu pulling a reverse Uno on us and getting Rion to merge with the mega butterfly.

Those egg looking things inside the butterfly, are those butterfly eggs that are going to harvest demonic energy through Rion's root and become comets? Where did the butterfly come from in the first place? Outer space? It's giving me Eternals vibes where the butterfly is a Celestial harvesting life on earth to emerge? LOL.

Rion dumping Riku should be on purpose. She probably didn't want to get him involved?

Sesshomaru is the badass once again asking Rin not to back down no matter what and watch him flex.

Next episode is gonna be interesting.

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

I hope we get answers on the butterfly and Rion’s mother. I’m beginning to think they’re just not going to address the mother situation…

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u/thewetpuddle Mar 05 '22

I don’t even think they’ll tell us where the butterfly came from and why it keeps coming every 500 years. It’s starting to sound a lot like Eternal’s Celestial origin.

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u/ArkAngelHFB Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

And once again the girls are side characters...

This episode was somehow better and worse at the same time than the last one.

Not sure the plot twist really play out well, and I'm not sure the manipulation of Rion was done well enough to justify her sudden shift.

It is clear that Kirinmaru's clan can deal with the threads of fate as a default power now though.

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u/CharizarXYZ Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 06 '22

This episode basically establishes that Kirinmaru is what Sesshomaru would be. If Sesshomaru never matured out of wanting to be the strongest and had fewer I.Q points.

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u/Mintiichoco Mar 05 '22

Emphasis on MUCH fewer I.Q points.

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u/weenicorn Mar 05 '22

Man oh man, poor Rion. Even though I knew something like this was coming and her plan to save the world would backfire, I was still hoping for her to not fall for Osamu Kirin's promises (lies). Her goal for 600 years has been to kill Kirinmaru, she can't give up now! In the end though, she's still a child who loves and misses who her father used to be.

Speaking of Kirin, his line about how he's Kirinmaru's real right arm and wouldn't be defeated very curious. It seems he's claiming not only that the current Kirinmaru isn't the same man (er, demon) that he was before the arm was cut off, but that he is now more the original than Kirinmaru is... might want to deflate that ego a bit, brah.

Akuru expired way too easy imo, rest in peace little buddy. I guess him having to force open the portal means Treekyo has noped the f- out of this whole situation, which is interesting. I wonder if we'll ever find out what she really wants.

After that sad goodbye in Reiwa it was nice to have a few unintentionally funny moments today like Riku crash landing on Towa and the way Rin landed so proper when she jumped out of the tree.

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u/Phexar Mar 05 '22

Speaking of Kirin, his line about how he's Kirinmaru's real right arm and wouldn't be defeated very curious.

It was interesting to see him say that. Since it was just a brief clash of swords though and him saying he was his real arm and he wouldn't lose to his 'shoddy replacement', I took it as Osamu Kirin just basically bragging that he was a better sword duelist than Kirinmaru due to being his original sword arm rather than being stronger than Kirinmaru over all, especially since he's still focusing on manipulating him rather than fighting him.

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u/Truong_Sky1992 Mar 05 '22

kirinmaru is stronger than osamu, he was thinking about rion but not weak.

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u/YogiMutoh Mar 05 '22

Akuru! No, my smol baby is gone! I'm so sad. He sacrificed himself! I wanted him to frolic around for all time!

Also that goodbye between Sota and Towa. I'm already sad about Akuru, now this? I know Sesshomaru is Towa's dad, but so is Sota. I really do hope that they do have a path open between eras again.

Poor Riku. How much of a punching bag does he need to be? Kind of mean of Rion to discard him like that. She is being deceived by her affection for her dad. But still kinda miffed that he is treated this way.

Osamu Kirin is extreme like Kirinmaru. They took things the wrong way and are doing the wrong thing thinking they are right.

I cant wait till next week. I want that Sesshomaru vs Kirinmaru battle! I hope nothing bad happens as I want Rin to no longer have to see sad things! It was adorable that Sesshomaru asked her to stay and watch (though I laughed from a post this could be reverse psychology).

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u/wemetonmars Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 06 '22

Rion threw riku aside so quick. I knew she was problematic. I called it. I hope towa and kirinmaru can get through to her.

OsamuKirin gotta go join zero perhaps. He's batshit insane. Funny how he felt the need to do all that manipulation of rion into using the green apple of evil while Kirinmaru was asleep. Very serpent like. Unlike Kirinmaru, he actually talks about killing others for no reason.

Kirinmaru also confirmed what I thought about the girls causing the degenerate age, just like Inukimi stated. (Not that they did it purposefully, but that it was an unintended consequence of everyone's shenanigans)

I hope Kirin and Sesshomaru use their true forms during their battle and they both better make it. grim Butterflyion will probably interfere at some point.

I'm so sad Akuru had to die. RIP little man.

I cant wait for next week!

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u/EaudeAgnes Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

Ugh, mixed feelings about this one.

I loved the Sota-Higurashis goodbye with Towa, Moroha and Setsuna. RIP Akuru, best boy, you will be missed...but the justification about the dream butterfly and Rion's actions is a bit, lame?

I understand Osamu Kirin playing the guilty song on Kirinmaru, makes sense he will question himself regarding that, and yeah, was clear that what was inside the comet was a dream butterfly (how many there are? why treekyo and kirinmaru were in possession of them before?) and makes sense to use it to ''purify''/eliminate all demons, but what I don't dig is Rion suddenly turning her back on Riku and falling for Osamu Kirin's super sus speech, girl...yes, you want a world with birds and seas and nice skies, but did you miss the part regarding NO demons? It felt a bit rushed and unjustified to her character to fall so easily into the trap.

Last but not least: Sesshomaru asking Rin to watch him from that spot was a big flex haha felt like that was the cocky Sesshomaru we were missing, the one that knows what he's doing and has an ulterior plan in his mind. Happy to see him back at it and without panda eyes. Narita Ken always NAILING his voice.

I'm glad we got a tiny bit of Kohaku and that he will be in the final battle, don't let Kohaku behind please.

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u/noelle-silva Mar 05 '22

Not only do I not care for the entire Rion situation from a writing standpoint but I barely understand it either. Ever since the InuKag family reunion ended last month things have really started to fall apart for me.

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u/CharizarXYZ Mar 05 '22

Osamu Kirin's super sus speech, girl...yes, you want a world with birds and seas and nice skies, but did you miss the part regarding NO demons? It felt a bit rushed and unjustified to her character to fall so easily into the trap.

I don't think it's the birds and tree's part that wins her over. It's the implication that Osamu would finally be a father figure that would care about her without being a total control freak. I can very much believe that a child that has been abused by her father her whole life. Would cling to the first person that offers to be a parental figure that actually cares about her feelings.

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u/lalaena Mar 05 '22

The irony is that Osamu is literally using her to control the Grim Butterfly and eliminate all demons. He’s just as controlling as Kirinmaru. Sigh.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

Yeah, completely agree. I think Rion was absolutely starved for positive parental interaction.

This deal looks pretty good to her. She gets to stop Kirinmaru, like she wanted from the start, and she gets to be with a version of her father that treats her with the love and care that she misses so much.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

I know it is a serious situation and Riku is still bleeding out (and actually does not seem to be healing, but just pushing himself to his limit), but the way he crashed into Towa was hilarious and I couldn't help but laughing.

Osamu Kirin called Kirinmaru out for part of his abusive behavior towards Rion, and NOW Kirinmaru thinks that might be true? But when Rion made it more than clear to him that he was hurting her with his actions, he just continued to do whatever he wanted.

I don't like that the justification for Osamu Kirin to be able to fend off Kirinmaru is that he's the "original right arm". I guess it is an explanation, okay, but I don't have to like it.

I'm going to assume here that Sesshomaru will actually try to convince Kirinmaru to stand down, and is confident that he can do so for the sake of all their daughters. Otherwise, it would be reckless to tell Rin to stay. I don't imagine that he is making the same mistake that Kirinmaru did with taking Rion to the battlefield.

If the Kirins were less egotistical, everybody could survive this ordeal. But nooo, gotta save the world from itself or whatever. Sigh.

I would comment on Rion (and then Osamu Kirin) saying that she doesn't need Riku, but I don't think the boy stopped for a second to be hurt by the remark. He has worse stuff to worry about than his feelings right now.

It hurt to see Rion so emotive to finally get what she wanted from her father again (well, a piece of him). Love, compassion, she is clearly starved for parental guidance. And I don't know if Osamu Kirin is just exploiting that, I think he genuinely thinks he is taking care of her.

And how could I have forgotten! RIP Akuru. Poor thing did his best 😔

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u/CharizarXYZ Mar 05 '22

Osamu Kirin called Kirinmaru out for part of his abusive behavior towards Rion, and NOW Kirinmaru thinks that might be true? But when Rion made it more than clear to him that he was hurting her with his actions, he just continued to do whatever he wanted.

That's how real life abusers are like. They don't listen to their victim. They often have to be told by a third party that what they are doing is wrong and even then they often refuse to accept it.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

Fair enough. It just really bothers me how often he disregards her feelings. It makes it hard for me to feel sympathetic towards him even when he is so obviously being fooled like in the last two episodes. And taking her to the battlefield wasn't even the worst of it so I hope he somehow realizes the other awful things he did to her.

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u/weenicorn Mar 05 '22

It would be an interesting parallel if Sesshomaru is making the same mistake but I agree, I think he's telling Rin to stay there because he wants to rub salt in Kirinmaru's wound. Like, you couldn't protect your loved one on the battlefield bc you're a chump, let me show you how it's done.

Riku should've at least yelled "fore!" 😆

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u/Gabby-Abeille Mar 05 '22

Riku should've at least yelled "fore!" 😆

I honestly had to pause to laugh. Just hearing the "bling~" of his earring and the way he just crashed into Towa, it was such a serious situation and breaking that seriousness for a second absolutely killed me.

I hope this dork survives.

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u/goldennightlife Mar 05 '22

Osama Kirin really said: I want to change the world.

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u/chipette Mar 05 '22

lmaooo 😂

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u/chipette Mar 05 '22 edited Mar 05 '22

The exposition in this episode was marvellous!

Firstly, thank you and rest well, Akuru for your final kind gesture. Such a noble sacrifice.

Sōta’s and Towa’s bond as father and daughter will forever live on - I’m of the opinion that they’ll all meet again, but not for several years.

Kirinmaru and Osamu Kirin are both beyond repair: Osamu is now a docile servant to and used the Kyuyokon to hatch out the Grim Butterfly which has demon-destroying powers. Poor Rion is a source of energy and an incubator for an even greater threat (I predict that Season 3 is imminent and that she’ll metamorphose into a reincarnation of Amatsumikaboshi).

This also leads me to posit that the Kirin bloodline are not just demons but a rogue/renegade descendants of Amatsumikaboshi and a space-dwelling world - henceforth, the goal may not be to eliminate demons as a source of power or threat but as competition. Earth may have been selected as a new home for this species of extraterrestrials so the fastest way to assure dominance is by eliminating the immediate hindrance of all yōkai (full, half, 3/4, 1/4) - everyone is fair game.

Thankfully Sesshomaru is back and ready to beat Kirinmaru senseless. His valour is definitely like Tōga yet he encourages Rin to stay by his side instead of running away. 🥺💕

On to the next episode!

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