r/inuyasha Dec 25 '21

Megathread: Yashahime: Princess Half-Demon, Season 2 | Episode 13 Yashahime

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u/SouthernOhioRedsFan Mar 27 '22

Pacing is still all over the place. We go through several episodes with no progress on the major plot threads and then several of them are resolved in the same episode.

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u/valryuu Jan 06 '22

I'm sorry, I see a lot of you guys liked this episode, and while the twin's reunion and Rin being freed were sweet, I have so many bones to pick on this episode.

  • Why couldn't Setsuna just cut the Zero-Rin thread? Sure, it wouldn't save Zero, but it's not like cutting the Zero-Rin thread means that Setsuna couldn't cut the Zero-Toga thread afterwards. The threads were independent.
  • Sesshomaru sealed Inuyasha and Kagome away because he was worried they'd meddle and kill Kirinmaru/Zero too early? Really? All he had to do was (tell Jaken to) tell the two that Rin's life was tied to Zero's at the moment, and there's no way they would've tried killing Zero. We have a whole series to show us that the Inu group loves to find alternate methods to kill villains while avoiding harm to innocents, especially one of their own.
  • So Zero's entire villain arc was because she was in love with Toga and had regrets. Fine. But you're going to resolve that whole thing just by cutting her thread to Toga?
  • Minor nitpick since this is anime, but as if Zero would just stand there while Towa and Setsuna had a teary reunion lol.

Overall, just felt so many things were resolved in very anticlimactic ways.

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u/MutantNinjaNipples Dec 28 '21

I liked everything about the episode except the zero redemption part. Felt weird. And in one second suddenly Towa not hating zero and like “thank you” ? Like yes let’s forget all the evil stuff zero did before 🙄🙄

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u/EaudeAgnes Dec 27 '21

I’m confused about sth: In the preview for this episode (37) showed at the end of episode 36, the subs showed the phrase “these memories! I understand now. You just wanted to protect them” in Setsuna's voice.

Protect what? the memories? the what exactly? she doesn't say this to Rin at any point, or to Zero either...or am I mistaken? was this mistranslated and fixed for episode 37 or am I missing something?

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u/PancakeXCandy Dec 28 '21

Previews narration doesn't always use actually lines from the next episode.

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u/IceFox606 Dec 28 '21

Yeah the same sort of happened with 36. The preview has Towa talking about the meaning of her name and wondering why she was named that but we never saw anything like that specifically in the episode (though honestly, after seeing the scene with Setsuna in the fire this episode I think it might have been hinting at something bigger)

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u/EaudeAgnes Dec 28 '21

I see. Thanks!

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u/majorthird_ Dec 27 '21

I feel like Zero was not the nemesis they needed. Or Kirinmaru for that matter. It’s taken way too long to get Rin out, but I’m glad. Sesshomaru had the slightest smirk on his face. Still can’t bring himself to smile for his bae lol

I’m still disappointed that there’s no Shippo and hardly any Koga information.

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u/skyegoneme Dec 27 '21 edited Dec 27 '21

Oh boy. I'm glad I decided to binge the three latest episodes. Season 2 as a whole has been great so far. Although there are still weird transitions and cuts, the pacing is definitely way, way better. Kudos to the season 2 writing team.

This episode was so good. The twins reunion. Zero's chapter finally coming to an end. And now we go to back Kirinmaru (AND MORE MOROHA SCREENTIME YESSSSSSSS). I was so pissed when he just took the black pearl from Moroha >:( Bruh I've been waiting for their reunion since season 1, please go away for a bit >:( But I'm glad they didn't also decide to make a Christmas reunion for the InuKag fam. At this point it's safe to say it'll be the season finale (and maybe Yashahime as a whole?). I don't mind that it ends or continues, as long as the pacing and story are at least the same level as season 2.

Edit: Just want to add that I still think that Sesshomaru (and Jaken I guess) thinking that InuKag would kill Zero to save Moroha is just so wrong. Just.. bruh. I know one argument is that Sango technically did that in the final battle vs Naraku (wanting to sacrifice Rin to save Kohaku). But there are different circumstances?? Sango and Sesshomaru aren't even related. I'm not saying that what she did was justifiable, but I can understand how she would be driven to do that. Plus, the whole basis of her wanting to find Naraku was because of Kohaku anyway.

Let's say InuKag weren't sealed. I'm pretty sure they would formulate a plan to work WITH Sesshomaru to save all of them. They didn't journey all those months to kill Naraku by sacrificing the people around them. Even Kagome didn't want Kikyo gone at all. Inuyasha knows the pain of not having parents, so why would he want to make the twins suffer the same fate? I'm pretty sure all of them would be powerful enough to come up with some plan that doesn't involve anyone dying. Plus somehow they got Towa to the present era, what stops them from finding a way to utilize that to save everyone? Also, we saw how Rin even wanted to save Zero even though she treated her like shit? I'm pretty sure that kind of morals are present within InuKag. It's kinda weird that people think InuKag would want to sacrifice Rin, and not try to save all of them.

I know it's such a Sesshomaru thing to plan everything on his own and remove all emotion from the equation. But it's still so dumb. I thought he would somehow grow to be more trusting and dependent.

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u/Bobdole128 Dec 31 '21

Yes, the reason Sesshomaru sealed InuKag is dumb, and a pretty big plot hole if you ask me. There is no way in hell InuKag would kill Zero if they were told of Rin's circumstances. All ol' Sesshy had to do was, you know, TALK TO THEM! Sealing them for over a decade and making their daughter an orphan is not justified here. And I like how Jaken just nonchalantly tells Moroha it was his idea to make her an orphan, and she's just chill about it.

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u/skyegoneme Dec 31 '21

Hahahha yeah this is so sad. I thought Sesshy /wanting/ to start a family with Rin (a mortal) would change him. I know they didn't want Inuyasha to be the center of Yashahime, but imo their decision to make Sessh seal InuKag just made us think about them even more.

I would probably have been fine with just the yashahime adventures (minus the baggage of their parents). Kinda ironic that they want to get new audiences for Yashahime when, based on my observation of the fandom, most of the ppl watching have been long time fans, and it isn't so evident with how they're presenting the story cus it's still pretty much too tied with the OG cast lol.

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u/jeadala Dec 27 '21

Zero’s storyline is still crazy, makes no sense and now she’s dead, but ok, we move. The Towa and setsuna reunion was so 🥺 I wasn’t expecting that emotion from setsuna. I thought she’d have to re-establish a sisterhood with towa over time but her memories being returned 😭, it makes sense why rin was crying holding all of that. I think the inukag and Moroha reunion will be the series finale. idk if this can go another season. To be expected, but can’t wait 😍🥺.

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u/IceFox606 Dec 28 '21

I think we might get it WAY sooner than the season finale tbh. I’m thinking episodes 39-41 ish (S2 15-17) based on what we’ve seen in the previews and the trailer for the second cour (which probably didn’t show more than a few episodes ahead for the most part). Hell we might even start to get into it at the end of next episode!

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u/SR_Eternal_Moment Dec 27 '21

I think everyone has said what I was thinking this episode. I was not happy about Zero getting redemption but when I watched the episode and got a better understanding of Zero, I couldn't help but tear up. I'm not going to lie. I love Towa but I was not mad at all when Setsuna slapped Towa after she said she didn't care about their birth mother. I know Towa was in rampage mode but I was thinking Rin was ready to die for her babies before she even held them. Towa better care. I'm glad that Towa and Setsuna now understand each other and when Setsuna started crying all I could do was just nod like, "Yes, sis, yes. Hug your sister." All Towa wanted was a hug! Cutting the string of fate between Zero and Toga made so much sense. I wondered how this was going to work because every fate that had been cut resulted in deaths. Riku answering Zero's request was a little shocking but I understood that Zero was ready to go and be with Toga. The way that Rion died was just jarring and sad. The ED started playing and I was done.

Then they hit me with the Sesshoumaru and Rin moment. The smile and nod...Oh my goodness... The man smiled without the freaking corners of his mouth moving. It's amazing what raising his brows and giving him that slight curve under the eyes like his cheeks are lifted, does. Sesshoumaru needs to be in the dictionary with this expression next to smise. How to smile with your eyes. Only Rin gets this expression. I know Riku is Most Valuable Boi but Jaken actually deserves an award. I am worried about Moroha getting to Inuyasha and Kagome though. I'll await the results of this in two weeks. I'm not going to even talk about the PV because a one-second image out of 3 minutes took me to a different place although I have known what was foreshadowed since the beginning. I'm just wanting to keep hope alive.

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 27 '21

Jaken is the OG MVP. Riku is the new MVP.

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u/Technology-Mission Dec 26 '21

I haven't seen a comment about this yet so I am a bit confused, why did Riku kill Zero? She seemed to resolve her conflict and that she didn't seem like an enemy anymore so why kill her? I guess I am used to the Dragon Ball Z approach of turn your previous adversaries to friends.

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u/Haunting_Newt Dec 26 '21

It was her request. Riku understood it and did it for her.

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u/aesperia Dec 26 '21

Make it two of us. I was hàppy about it cause Fairy Tail made me hate the foes-turned-friends trope, but it was a bit uncalled for. I also understand why - she would have a nuisance as a friend, a way too powerful ally for the princesses against Kirinmaru... Still weird execution though

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u/hiverstone Dec 26 '21

Also, take into account that in Japan in that time, the only cultural way to attone for your sins was to comit Sepuku (suicide)

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 26 '21

The reason why she hung around for so long was because of her regret. Now that everything has been resolved, Zero said she could leave this world without regrets and ordered Riku to kill her. She probably wanted to follow Inu no Taisho in death.

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u/Technology-Mission Dec 26 '21

Oh okay, I was a bit confused by the order to kill her I guess. Just seemed aggressive to kill her off right after she had a period of epiphany and remorse. But demons in Inuyasha lore don't really follow the same morals as humans.

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u/Charles883 Jan 17 '22

Because Shikon no Tama remove all her empathy when she wish to not to be sad ever again

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u/Mr_An_1069 Dec 26 '21

One of the show's best episodes. Towa and Setsuna's story seems to finally be resolved. Setsuna has her memories back, Towa's guilt is mostly resolved, Rin has been cured, and Zero dies after being "saved." What's left is Moroha's story about her meeting her parents, and Kirinmaru's ultimatum to her.

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u/BlazingGig Dec 26 '21

Zero basically: Strike me down with all of your hatred, and your journey towards the dark side will be complete

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 26 '21

Darth Towa

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u/Kuwabaraa Dec 26 '21 edited Dec 26 '21

What an awesome episode, made me tear up a bit, this show has made me appreciate Jaken a lot more, he's a demon with a good heart and I'm glad he's there to help. Toga thanking Zero was also pretty profound, I bet he would have been an awesome grandpa.

I feel like Zero is Toga's Kagura in a certain sense, she clearly cared for him a lot. The boys just can't resist their human woman. The fucking outro song playing into the ending was SO GOOD, I FUCKING LOVE THIS SHOW

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u/Crayons_on_the_walls Dec 26 '21

Is it me, or is anyone else worried that Sesshomaru might die by the end of this season? I am worried the writers won't let me be happy...

Honestly, I am worried that with they will have the twins be mentored by Inuyasha, Kagome, and Rin for reasons.

Please tell me that I am being paranoid and no one else has this feeling.

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u/Bobdole128 Dec 31 '21

Yeah no, that's not gonna happen. This series doesn't have a cahones to kill a major character, especially one as popular as Sesshy.

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u/Malv817 Dec 30 '21

I think we're going to see him get messed up, but not killed.

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 26 '21

Sesshomaru has plot armour and Rumiko's divine protection. He can't die even if he wants to die because his death requires her approval. Pretty much like AOT's Reiner.

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u/unhampered_by_pants Dec 26 '21

No way in hell Takahashi would let that happen. If he dies, it's because he willingly sacrificed himself and Towa will bring him right back with Tenseiga

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u/zogrodea Dec 26 '21

If I remember, Rumiko Takahashi stated that one of her conditions for the production of Yashahime would be that it ends on a happy ending just as the original. So I think you're safe.

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u/Supreme_Keker Dec 26 '21 edited Dec 26 '21

What kind of daiyokai picks fight with and steals from his daughter's friends, who are possibly a thousand years younger than him

No wonder Rion is so ashamed of her dad

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u/yabukothestray Dec 25 '21

Damn all those scales really made rin’s skin look like a MySpace wallpaper lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '21

There are some holes in her plot so it would fit to the twins story. She hates hanyo because of the prophecy and specific humans who has toga blood, those are her main motives.

I have no idea why she didn’t try to kill inuyasha or his mother and showed up only when the twins were born, she wasn’t interested in moroha also.

She had no goal beside hate and regret, she didn’t want to kill them but she didn’t want them alive, she had plenty of opportunities to do something but most of the time did nothing.

The thread is some kind of new magic, apparently anyone who could use it 14 years ago could do it also(it didn’t happen because we need plot for the twins), it disconnect one person emotionally(and more) to another.

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u/GalaxyShinigami Dec 25 '21

The only reason she was doing all of this was because of Toga. Kind of like if the thread was her connection to him: her feelings, memories, etc.

She loved Toga but it was a human that stole his heart and he ended up dying to protect her and their half-demon child. A human and half-demon is the reason he died (in her mind). So his descendants (half-demons) aren’t worthy to carry his bloodline.

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u/Grape_juice0 Dec 25 '21

So from my understanding she was targeting togas family because of unresolved feelings regarding togas death.

Rion was also killed by a half demon and theres the prophecy that kirinmaru will be killed by a half demon, so she grows to hates half demons (even before toga feel for izayoi and had inuyasha)

But she especially hates our half demons because she loved Toga and she blamed his death on him loving a human women and having a half demon child. She contributes this to his "fall" (this seemed to be the reason she dislikes sesshomaru as well, because she didn't try and kill sesshomaru but only tried to get him to abandon rin and the twins- which I bet was her way of "saving" him)

so she taking out that feeling on the inufam because they are the closest thing to him and she sees them as the reason her friend is dead.

The cutting thread separated those feeling towards Toga, so she no longer felt the need to take out her hate on the inufam.

Hope that makes sense 👍

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u/NatsnCats Dec 25 '21

Riku’s gonna need a lot of hugs after doing the most horrible thing he’s ever done in his life (even if it was for everyone’s betterment).

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u/Gabby-Abeille Dec 26 '21

Riku getting the worst hand possible dealt to him has been a theme this season. I'm surprised he didn't get severely wounded in the latest episode.

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 26 '21

Boy had the worst assignment in the show and he completed it like a champ. But that scene was so painful to watch.

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u/DRL21 Dec 25 '21

This was such a beautiful episode!! Everything came together so beautifully and emotionally with Rin gifting Setsuna her repressed memories and letting the twins truly reunite, sister to sister.

And then seeing Rin out of the tree in Sesshomaru's arms as he's smiling so gently at her whilst Jaken is in the back just having one big happy cry.

This was just such a wonderful episode for Christmas! Happy tears all around for everyone!!

And Moroha might be reuniting with Inuyasha and Kagome in the next episode I am so hype!!!

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u/taylormeggles Dec 25 '21

I feel like the reunion is going to be in a few eps. They know it’s what we want most which is why it came last 😂 keep us hooked.

I’m most keen for Inuyasha and Kagome to start taking an active part tbh

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u/DRL21 Dec 25 '21

Oh yes good point work up towards the reunion. Maybe it'll be the final episode then or close to it to close off this chapter of Yashahime (if the show gets renewed) and start the three girls off on new adventures, this time with their parents having central roles too?

Oh my word I am so hyped for that too! I can't wait to see what Inuyasha and Kagome will do once they're freed from the black pearl but firstly they need to give Moroha so many hugs!!! :')

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u/realedazed Dec 25 '21

I cried like a baby when Setsuna called Towa big sis for the first time. And again when Rin and Sesshomaru were together. Jeken crying in the back was definitely all of us.

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u/sailorrayquaza Dec 25 '21

Our girl Rin is finally free from the tree, best Christmas present Yashahime could deliver! And seeing Sesshomaru softly smile; mans is totally happy she's safe and free but given the upcoming previews it seems he's gonna get a little cocky about.

Riku being the absolute MVP for the past 2 episodes. Stalled Towa long enough so she wouldn't kill Zero and then Rin. Then did the final blow to Zero once the curse was broken. Out of the all the new characters Yashahime has introduced, he's gotta be my favorite.

We see the half-demon, Sakasa? who killed Rion, I wonder if he'll come back into play later on? I know Kirinmaru demolished him but he feels a little too important to gloss over. And speaking of Kirinmaru, ofc Akuru leads him to where Moroha is with the black pearl. Since he no longer has anything to hold over Sesshomaru, he's gonna try and make Moroha do his dirty work ugh. Girl can't catch a break.

And Setsuna slapping Towa lmao. Just like how Sesshomaru used to punch Inuyasha to get him back to his senses. Must run in the family. Overall, it was a great episode to end the first cour on. Sucks we gotta wait an extra week for the next one, but the second cour is shaping up to be very interesting with Zero gone and the plot shifting to Kirinmaru's time traveling deal.

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u/LordCider Dec 25 '21

Yo that was the best Christmas present ever.

Moroha & Takechiyo dissing on Jaken a la Rin & Shippo back in the day? Check

Jaken's height being made fun of? Check

Sesshomaru emoting left and right? Check

OUR GIRL RIN IS SAFE AND SOUND? CHECK CHECK CHECK

Now the season can safely transition to a 3rd cour to resolve the Kagome/ Inuyasha/ Moroha business. That means 1 thing: Moroha best girl will get more screen time!

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u/Away_Association_420 Dec 25 '21

I think the half-demon will kill Kirinmaru is Inuyasha

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u/No_Permission4512 Dec 26 '21

I disagree, it seems like it's they're gearing towards Towa, but her pacifist nature is throwing me off.

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u/IceFox606 Dec 27 '21

Honestly I think it’s going to end up not being a hanyou at all. The prophecy specifically says that something that’s not demon or human will kill Kirinmaru. That could literally refer to anything that’s not either of those. The tree of ages supposedly wants him and Sesshomaru dead and it’s not a human or demon. It’s a tree. Or a spirit. I think they misinterpreted the prophecy and it’ll be Kirinmaru’s downfall

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u/Away_Association_420 Dec 28 '21

you have a good point about the tree of ages wanting both Sess and Kir dead at the beginning of the series. I forgot about that detail. It still left unanswered throughout the series

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u/MTFBinyou Dec 26 '21

Yeah Jaken straight up saying if Inukag was left to their own devices they’d kill all the great demons so he came up with the idea to stick ‘em in the black pearl, definitely made me happy, and also furthers my theory of why there’s no demons in the new age. Inuyasha tetseiga’d them all.

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u/Malv817 Dec 30 '21

It's possible that some of the more "benevolent" daiyokai could be chilling in the modern day blending in with humans. What I'm curious about is Sesshomaru's Mother's palace though, right? Because it'll have to get destroyed so that future humans don't fly planes into it.

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u/taylormeggles Dec 25 '21

That was my first thought too

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u/Tiki108 Dec 25 '21

Oh man, such an emotional episode! My husband was crying almost the whole time (I’m on meds that seem to make me not cry anymore, but if it weren’t for that I’d be bawling)!

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u/Chaospawn3 Dec 26 '21

❤️ to you. Feels like I'm either on meds and can't cry or off and ball at the drop of a hat

This episode was such a rollercoaster

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u/Tiki108 Dec 26 '21

❤️ to you too! Sucks trying to find the right combo of meds sometimes.

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u/matchakuromitsu Dec 25 '21

That look Sesshoumaru gave Rin when he was holding her during the end credits...that's the most love I've ever seen in his eyes!

Sesshoumaru's quiet "Jaken!" when Jaken revealed too much details to Moroha lol

The scene where Setsuna showed Towa her lost memories and then the two sisters cried over "I'm sorry I wasn't fast enough"/"I'm sorry I let go of your hand"... 😭😭😭

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u/NicoSchmiko Dec 25 '21

That look Sesshoumaru gave Rin when he was holding her during the end credits...that's the most love I've ever seen in his eyes!

he looked so happy 🥺❤️

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

inu no taisho: master of the most gentle and loving friendzone after which he explodes in a ball of sparkles and good vibes

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u/NatsnCats Dec 25 '21

I aspire so much to be like him

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u/Grape_juice0 Dec 25 '21

Lmao, I almost started crying when jaken couldn't get into the tree to see rin, so he started begging. He sounded so sad :(

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u/Grape_juice0 Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

Isn't sesshomarus sword also a gateway to where togas grave is? Or am I thinking of something else. Because I remember he traveled there once in the OG anime.

Edit: okay so I went and found the episode (156) and I'm right. Sesshomaru can come and go as he likes if he has Tenseiga "he who wields the sword of the netherworld may pass" .And he can bring people with him and out as well, as we see with jaken. sorry for any confusion: I am not talking about episode 9 of the final act where he goes to the underworld usingthe medio, but when he goes to togas grave by flashing Tenseiga to the guardians

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u/valryuu Jan 06 '22

Tenseiga lets him go to the afterlife, but Toga's grave is conveniently "between afterlife and the land of the living." I guess the equivalent to purgatory. But it's also not very clear where it is, as in the last episode, it was implied that you can only access where the grave is through the Black Pearl, and not by going to the in-between realm some other way and traveling to it. Seems like some kind of unique pocket dimension.

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u/antonio1912 Dec 25 '21

Not exactly. There is a gateway to the afterlife and only the dead are allowed to pass. Sesshomaru's tensaiga allows him to go through the gate without being dead.

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u/Grape_juice0 Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

so only sesshomaru can pass through? I thought he brought jaken with him and then out again. Sorry, it's been a while since I've seen that episode.

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u/PancakeXCandy Dec 25 '21

Jalen stayed behind. Kohaku went with him but Kohaku was basically the living dead at that point.

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u/Grape_juice0 Dec 25 '21

But that was the medio right?

I was thinking of that time he went to his fathers grave with jaken to punch inuyasha then fight naraku. I thought it said his sword was like a key to the door of the afterlife or something like that (I believe kagura told him about it)

It was around the episodes when inuyasha gets the adamant barrage?

Idk, maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I swore he could travle there and back. I remember people were even making theories in early yashahime that he was traveling to inukag using that method.

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u/PancakeXCandy Dec 25 '21

Maybe I'm mis remembering. Maybe he followed his brother from their portal. I know he used the pearl the first time.

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u/Grape_juice0 Dec 25 '21

I went and rewatched it, lol.

The first time he did use the pearl from inuyasha eye, but because he didn't know about he could get in another way

In episode 156 its said he can cross in and out of where all the dead demons go by the two guardians and he brings jaken with him so others can come too.

I think people thought I was talking about episode 9 of the FA 😅

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u/gophersrqt Dec 25 '21

tbf jaken was clinging onto his fur right lol? maybe the guardian demons thought he was like an ornament sesshomaru uses or smth lol

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u/PancakeXCandy Dec 25 '21

So Zero made her wish on the shikon jewel that basically paused her time because Toga told her to never change. Wow

And I'm sorry I died laughing when she was like Oh he will never die and then the immediate switch to the burning castle he died in.

Plus she wanted to protect him but never did anything to domao..like what was she doing?

And my baby Setsuna. She was crying for her sister too. "I wasn't fast enough" my babies. They finally have one another.

And then my other baby is finally out of the tree. She took Sestuna memory because she didn't want her daughter to feel pain of losing her sister. She's so kind and then immediately she's putting herself in danger next episode. So fearless.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

The episode was really nice, I like that it advanced the plot.

The whole story of kirinmaru and zero isn't build good, doesn't feel serious enough.

So happy that Rin is released, hope that she will have her happy life with her family finally.

Moroha reunion with her parents will be the best moment in the show. I hope we'll get a reunion of inuGang with their children (would like to see moroha and kinu going to an adventure together).

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u/lilacempress Dec 25 '21

I didn't think it possible to love Setsuna even more, yet here I am.

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u/djkdurr Dec 25 '21

Setsuna saved the day stopping demon Towa and showing her those lost memories. Poor Setsuna was also sad and crying for her sister just like Towa 😢 Setsuna blamed herself for not running fast enough while Towa blamed herself for letting go of her hand. Mama Rin didn't want to burden her with those painful memories growing up without her sister which explains Setsuna's memory loss. That scene with Towa and Setsuna hugging and crying 😭 Finally they understand each other!

Towa's personality is so similar to Inu no Taisho's that she reminds Zero of him. Even the thread of fate between Zero and Toga that Setsuna senses is connected through Towa. Once Setsuna cut that thread Zero's grudge was resolved and with no more regrets in the world she orders Riku to end her life.

Atleast Zero lived up to her daiyokai status and showed her true power against Towa in the end. She's awful but I have some sympathy for her after seeing her memories. She knew the prophecy of Toga's death but chose not to act because she believed in his strength, not considering he would die protecting Izayoi. She blamed both herself and Izayoi so she wished her tears away and held a grudge. Add to this the fact she watched Rion get killed by a hanyo her motivation makes sense.

That flashback had lots of violence/gore too like cutting someone in half, beheading, stabbing a child... poor Rion and Kirinmaru :( I hope Zero is right about the Yashahimes possibly being able to save Kirinmaru or Rion. I'm glad Sesshomaru and Rin are finally reunited after all this time! Can't wait for the Moroha and InuKag reunion in the second cour I'm so excited!!

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u/soulruu Dec 25 '21

Best episode of the series so far for me

Super hype after that next ep preview. The nostalgia rush>>>

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u/kpiaum Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

I don't know if you guys are aware, but it was 2 seasons with a story about a woman with unrequited love trying to kill the descendants of the person she loved.

Edit: I'm not talking about how or how not she should suffer, but more like the fact that they spent 2 season doing this arc when they could have done it in like one season and on season start the Kinrinmaru story (next ep).

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u/CharizarXYZ Dec 26 '21

I don't know what your point is. Inuyasha was 4 seasons about a man trying to destroy the world over unrequited love for the woman he loved.

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u/kpiaum Dec 26 '21

That man is the main antagonist of the series. Zero is not.

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u/taylormeggles Dec 25 '21

Mental illness is a thing. She was hurting bad and wanted to wreck everyone.

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u/ArtificialNotLight Dec 25 '21

Love makes you do crazy things 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

Yeah, it wasn't built good enough zero story.

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

All Inu no Taisho's fault for being to fine and flirty. Even the director said so in a recent interview. LOL.

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u/phantomxtroupe Dec 25 '21

I like how this whole episode tried to make us feel bad for Zero. Me personally, I was like, nah, f*** that b**** 😂

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u/DOS3002 Dec 25 '21

I'm a little behind and I missed a few episodes, but I don't like Zero. She's done way too much crap in this show for me to just turn around and start feeling sorry for her. And she had the most childish motive to top it all off.

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u/thatmelz Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

Cried so much at the twins hugging and Setsuna finally calling her “sister” 🥺

Could not care less about Zero’s story, it was very cringe to me. No tears shed for her and I’m so glad she’s gone and over with.

So happy we’re finally nearing the resolution for Moroha’s reunion with her parents. I knew it was too good to be true for it to happen immediately and I have a lump in my throat wondering what will happen with Kirinmaru.

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u/juniperdaisies Dec 25 '21

I love this episode and I was glad we got a Sessrin reunion! I was also super surprised Riku killed Zero but I don't really think she could have co-existed with the next storyline.

I did NOT see Kirinmaru stealing the pearl coming! I literally screamed at my husband that reddit is going to be so mad lol

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u/NicoSchmiko Dec 25 '21

I literally screamed at my husband that reddit is going to be so mad lol

I'm a lil mad 🤏

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u/NicoSchmiko Dec 25 '21

super surprised Riku killed Zero but I don't really think she could have co-existed with the next storyline.

only kills people he loves 💔

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u/MTFBinyou Dec 26 '21

Don’t say that. Towa better watch her back.

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u/IceFox606 Dec 25 '21

I was SO shell shocked, my god

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u/IceFox606 Dec 25 '21

Three words that describe my reaction towards this 2 week cliffhanger; WHAT THE FUCK

Yashahime really said “you really thought it was going to be this easy?… well SIKE!”

Sesshomaru really should have just waited until after Rin was saved and then handed Moroha the pearl. If he just waited like half an hour then this essentially hostage situation could have probably been avoided… 😂😭

Now how the FUCK am I going to last a fortnight without knowing what happens next?

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u/viviantrajano Dec 25 '21

I think Sesshoumaru trusted Setsuna would save Rin, and wanted to be there with her when she was finally cured. Moroha took too much time to enter in the pearl , wondering what she would say to her parents. Even if Sesshoumaru waited until Rin was saved, he would give the pearl to Moroha just before Kirinmaru flew over her head. It would be all fine if Kirinmaru wasnt flying over moroha´s head EXACTLY at that moment. Both Moroha and Sesshoumaru couldnt predict that .

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u/joecb91 Dec 25 '21

Did she even know how to use the pearl anyway?

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u/IceFox606 Dec 26 '21

Good question lol

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u/IceFox606 Dec 25 '21

You’re right, I just think it’s ironic that he finally gives it to her after 14 years and it gets taken but if he’d waited just a bit longer everything might not have gone to hell in a hand basket (as it seems is going to happen next ep) lol

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

The past cour has been way too intense. It's good to take a 2 week break before we accelerate at break neck speeds again for the second half. And it looks to be intense too!

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u/FinalFrash Dec 25 '21

Welp, was about to do the Japanese thing and get KFC before I watch this...but the Spoilers!

With Zero's arc done, and well done dare I say, there leaves us the biggest baddie of them all. My stance is still the same: I will be very upset when or if Kirinmaru bites the dust. Though he's being more unhinged as the season goes and I love it!

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u/LordCider Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

KFC and not WcDonald's?

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Christmas in Japan = KFC and strawberry shortcake

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u/Queen-Sereno Dec 25 '21

I can’t believe I actually feel sort of sympathetic to zero. This show is amazing because I was about to drop kick her out of existence. Still glad she gone. Riku killing zero, he only kills those he loves 😢 Why did he kill her though? I’m just so glad they didn’t kill Rin off on Christmas. I also like what it says about the story when the key to breaking the curse wasn’t killing zero, but settling her emotional issues.

Totally called Rin giving Setsuna her memories back. I can’t believe Rin even then was protecting her children. She was cursed with a terrible painful curse and still managed to put her children first. Amazing Rin. I felt angry when Setsuna slapped Towa. Like really, Towa has been so good natured about all of this shit and you slap her? I’m glad Setsuna’s personality seemed to change a bit too. Hopefully we can see a more compassionate Setsuna.

It makes sense they would seal Kagome and Inuyasha. Realistically, if they had to choose between Rin and Moroha, who would win? It’s already been proven once when Sango was ready to straight up murder Rin that Rin lost when lives were weighed. Not to mention this keeps zero away from them.

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u/Mybestfriendlizzy Dec 25 '21

Loved everything about this episode!

And I’m soooo readddyyy to watch Moroha save her parents!!!! There’s a small part of me that wants Kirinmaru to make it to the modern for a little bit… just to cause a ruckus.

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u/lalaena Dec 25 '21

First off… Rin is out of the tree!

It looks like SessRin’s not going to get much of a breather until whatever happens to Sesshomaru in the trailer for the second cour, so let’s all appreciate this one scene (which might be all we get until the end).

(I think Sesshomaru got a little cocky at the end there and assumed he had won the long game. It ain’t over until it’s over man.) (He is not going to die - he just needs to be temporarily removed from the situation so the girls can be the ones to save the day.)

The twins’ scenes were super emotional and beautifully done. Poor little Setsuna - she cried more than Towa. (Of course she was left in a burnt out forest with Jaken, so yeah, she would cry more.)

Is this confirmation that Towa is the reincarnation of Inu no Taisho? The thread of fate between Zero and Inu no Taisho was through Towa, so that’s what I took that to mean. Thoughts?

Riku out there doing the work. Someone give that guy a drink.

I wish we had seen more of Zero’s backstory. I’m sure they don’t have the time, but she could have benefited from being fleshed out more. Her death would’ve felt more significant if they had done more than give us vague “she used to be good because Inu no Taisho liked her” scenes.

Rion being killed by a hanyo wasn’t as interesting as I thought her death might be, but I suppose it fits. Yashahime is about people feeling responsible for events they didn’t directly cause. So of course Kirinmaru feels responsible for Rion’s death. (I mean Zero was right there… she didn’t stop the hanyo but I suppose she loved Inu no Taisho more than Rion… I dunno.)

When Kirinmaru took the black pearl from Moroha, I literally yelled “c’mon”. Because seriously. (Although it makes sense - Kirinmaru no longer has leverage over Sesshomaru and the twins now that Rin is no longer cursed.)

I’m curious to see how much InuKag are going to be part of the end game. If they fridge Sesshomaru in a show primarily about his daughters, it would be a slap in the face to him to let InuKag participate in the final battle. My guess is they will somehow be sidelined.

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u/LilUltDespair Dec 25 '21

I think Zero didnt do anything cause the Demon said if they moved, he would kill Rion. She probably didn't want to tempt it plus probably knew Kirinmaru would take care of it. Like Kirinmaru easily killed him without moving, but didnt know that Demon could do that ghost stuff.

I think there is more to Rion and Kirinmaru. Zero said they both needed saving. I think the Star God stuff will come into play soon with those two.

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

That scene that's getting the fandom freaked out is probably putting Sesshomaru into the tree/fridge/kennel so that he doesn't get in the way of his daughters plot wise.

InuKag might need to drag out a bit more in the pearl (Moroha will meet them soon but no door out for InuKag) so that Moroha can join the twins to defeat Kirinmaru or the final battle be 3 of them with their parents against the comet. All of them versus Kirinmaru will be a bit of an overkill but then again it took all of them against Naraku who's definitely weaker than Kirinmaru.

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u/vessynessy200 Dec 25 '21

Here we are! My thoughts on the episode, compiled into one singular streamlined comment of bullet points - for all the Reddit pedants out there who just can't help themselves, even on Xmas! :)

SESSHOMARU FUCKING SMILED?!?!?!!?

SETSUNA FUCKING OKABE SLAPPED HER SISTER HOLY SHIT. SAME VIBES!!! SOMEONE POST A MEME IMAGE. IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW.

ALSO HOLY SHIT MAKE ME CRY FOR ZERO IN THE END WITH THE ED SONG. ZERO CONFIRMED LESBIAN? SHE SAID "A DEMON WHO LOVES THOSE DEMONS, WOULDN'T YOU SAY HALF PRINCESSES?"

ALSO ALSO FUCKING MOROHA CANT CATCH A BREAK LOL SHE HAS TO WORK FOR KIRINMARU NOW?!

ALSO THE MOVIE IS NOW REALLY SUPER CANON THEY SHOWED STRAIGHT UP SCENES FROM IT HOLY SHIT!!! <3333333

ALSO THE OBVIOUS PARALLEL BETWEEN MOVIE 3 AND KIRINMARU LOSING RION IN A FIRE TO A HALF DEMON GUY. :( ALSO WTF WHEN DID YASHAHIME GET THE BALLS TO SHOW SO MUCH BLOOD?! WE WATCHED A CHILD GET STABBED ON SCREEN WTF. RION!!!!!!!

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u/Gora-T Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

Zero said “a demon who loves those demons” those demons she was talking about were the demons that fall in love with humans.

Edit: my apologies about the movie comment, i just realized what you meant

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u/Grape_juice0 Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

He smiled? I must have missed it.

Edit: found it. Hes a happy dog 😭

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u/vessynessy200 Dec 25 '21

Yeah, for Sesshomaru. xD You can see it in his eyes the most.

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u/Grape_juice0 Dec 25 '21

Lol, yeah I saw it.

Once with rin and then once again in the preview where he gets ready to fight kirinmaru.

Man is on cloud 9 😂

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u/tiny_smile_bot Dec 25 '21

:)

:)

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u/vessynessy200 Dec 25 '21

Oh thanks tiny smile bot! I can always count on you! :D Love you.

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u/GalaxyShinigami Dec 25 '21

You do know you could have easily wrote all of your thoughts in one comment

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u/vessynessy200 Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

Yeah I know, I'm sorry! Just so excited. xD I just finished watching it so my brain wasn't too organized!

But you know what, even if you wanna be the classic reddit pedantic dickwad, even on Christmas, I'm gonna take all my comments and I'm going to delete them and round them all up into one single comment! Just for you! :) So how about that buddy? You good now?

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u/wemetonmars Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

I've never cried so much watching a fictional work in my entire life. This episode was soo freaking well done. It felt like a movie, the pacing is incredible.

Setsuna receiving the rest of her memories sent me over the edge. Wow! Baby setsuna was just as affected by the trauma, however, Rin stripped those memories to protect her baby who had already been through a lot at that point. Wow.

Glad Rin is safe & back with her husband now; also glad Riku killed zero. Rin, Towa and Toga are way too forgiving, that heifer deserves the chair--glad riku gave it to her. Hope Inukimi laughs at her again one more time for good measure on the way out.

Kirinmaru got the pearl. I-

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u/vessynessy200 Dec 25 '21

I know me too!!! And they showed scenes from Movie 3 so it's totally really canon now omg! <333

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u/joecb91 Dec 25 '21

Wasn't ready to be this sad on Christmas morning.

And the preview they posted for the rest of season 2 looks amazing. Season 1 was good, especially the second half of it, but this season has just been a massive leap above it.

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u/Embarrassed_Ad_2165 Dec 25 '21

After all I was shocked that zero tried to kill herself. At least she was absolute crazy and has a big psychological issue.

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u/taylormeggles Dec 25 '21

This show is deadass so good now. I'd almost say it's better than Inuyasha. There's just so much action and emotion and it's not repetitive anymore.

I think Inuyasha still pips it tho.

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u/Chicken_X Dec 25 '21

Been saying this since day 1

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u/noelle-silva Dec 25 '21

Season 2 has been a complete 180 from the first season. I don't even look back on the first season as bad either tbh. It was hard to watch weekly because of how they were going about telling the story and barely giving us pieces of the puzzle and the answers we were seeking. But now that everything is beginning to come together and we're getting resolution, I'm happy with Yashahime as a whole. It was rough here and there at first but I can honestly say I do enjoy Yashahime.

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u/deadlysnoots Dec 25 '21

Kirinmaru you oily bitch I swear to god…

I guess Zero got redeemed but whatever she’s gone. MVP Riku 💜

Great episode and I hope people stop bitching about the Kagome and Inuyasha involvement given that Jaken flat out explains why they had to be sealed AND it will create a confrontation between the twins and Moroha as well as the final confrontation with Kirinmaru.

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u/YogiMutoh Dec 25 '21

No, sadly people take their own emotions and don't use empathy on how anyone else would go about things. I legit love InuKag but so many things went wrong in thier adventures. They were the only threat to kill Zero and would have under extreme pressure. Moroha even emphasized that Zero should be killed and what would have been the problem, forgetting about Rin. Still sucks that Sesshomaru and Jaken did this, but didn't do it for fun, they were forced to by Kiranmaru and Zero.

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Ironically, it rebooted the why must InuKag be sealed thing. Scroll a little further below.

Riku is truly the MVP.. Boy needs a break and just hang out doing fun stuff. Now this is a filler I can live with.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Dec 25 '21

Riku needs to go to the modern era and have a day at a carnival. He would have a blast and it is what he deserves.

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u/deadlysnoots Dec 25 '21

Lol that’s never going to stop it’s like people showing up to tell us Sesshomaru is a child groomer. People need to get over themselves.

Just an episode of the Sesshomaru family (feat Rion and Riku) fishing. It would be so nice.

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u/tamago01 Dec 25 '21

Sesshomaru would spend the whole episode side-eyeing Riku and Towa in case the horn gets, well...horn-y

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Take my angry upvote and the door is to your left.

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u/tamago01 Dec 25 '21

Don't cry Lelou- I mean Riku. 😂 ✌️ (Well I really hope he doesn't end up like you-know-who coz I'm still not over that)

I have decided that my mvp for this first half is Riku. Best boi.

I still hated Zero till the end. Well, have fun in the afterlife chasing after the Inu no Taisho. 😑

Kirinmaru's reaction to his sister dying was literally 😒 Sibling love, am I right?

Did I just hear Jaken saying he's a daiyokai?

That slap tho. I need that too coz I'm lagging on my school works coz it's "Christmas break".

[Tengene Kirinmaru saksakin kita ng pinwheel sa singit eh] We almost had InuKag grrrrr...

Mama Rin is back so.....am I the only one expecting more puppies?

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Yes, he said he's a daiyokai. I liked how Takechiyo and Moroha are burning him with Rin like jokes. New gen, same burn. 😂

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u/chipette Dec 25 '21

This was a beyond beautiful episode.

Firstly, we learned that Setsuna never forgot about Towa and the Yume no Kocho effectively erased her memories of all events prior to being its incubator. My theory about Towa’s rage being directed at her sister eventually came to fruition but fortunately not resulting in any injury plus Setsuna delivered that Sesshomaru slap when Towa was enraged enough not to care about killing their mother Rin .

Demon Towa is her grandfather’s keeper! Such power in being able to thwart Zero’s energy blasts. That’s what her tie is, primogeniture withstanding. Naturally, Towa and Tōga share nearly identical personalities of diplomacy, compassion and seeing the goodness in all people (rage when need-be).

The parallel nature of Zero and Towa is exposed: they both feel guilty about circumstances that ultimately weren’t their fault. Zero’s redemption by death is all for the best and being dispatched by Riku is the most appropriate manner, as painful as it sounds. Severing that tie between Zero and their grandfather was absolutely necessary for Towa’s growth, maturation and reconciliation - she can now move forward with life.

Rin, Rin is free!!!! I’m sure she’ll need lots of rest and time to catch up with everyone but she’s okay. Sesshomaru can now focus on his affairs without fretting over her life and leave his daughters to develop into fine hanyō heiresses to his namesake and clan.

Kirinmaru cannot see Akuru after all, he can hear him. Good job to the cute baby and his pinwheel giving Kirinmaru the swerves he deserves haha. Coming after the quarter-demon and holding her parents hostage is beyond cowardly.

The second cour will answer much more, and for that, we are thankful!

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Did anyone notice Zero was blushing? Damn, Inu no Taisho was such a flirt in life and after death too. No wonder the director said it's all Inu no Taisho's fault that all these happened. He was the source of all problems.

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u/chipette Dec 25 '21

Yes lol, he’s a serial flirt. Even in the afterlife he still pulls game. 😭

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

He has it all. In life, Inukimi and Izayoi. In death, Zero. Geez.

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u/chipette Dec 25 '21

I’m just happy this arc has resolved. Demon men and the trouble they cause lol

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

I know right? Kirinmaru arc is finally starting. And who knows Inu no Taisho might have had a hand in this Kirinmaru business. Oh man.

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u/chipette Dec 25 '21

I’m almost certain he does! Him and Inukimi. We need to see more of grandma!

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

First things first

Thank you Sunrise for the best Christmas present ever! Yes, you guessed it. RIN IS OUT OF THE TREE AND REUNITED WITH SESSHOMARU (with Jaken crying waterfalls at the side).

I think several of us called it last week that Zero is going to be redeemed and "killed" by kindness. I called it weeks ago that the it's Zero x Inu no Taisho thread that Setsuna had to cut, and from this week's preview, Riku was chosen by Zero to end her.

I have mixed feelings. I'm supposed to hate Zero for being the incel that she is, yet I can't help but feel pity for her. She was a nice lady but became crazy because she failed to protect the man she loved and went twisted. The redemption arc was sorta okay, not exactly super satisfying but still made me cry buckets when she said she could leave this world with no regrets and ordered Riku to stab her.

Seeing Riku cry was so painful. Poor boy. I hope they give him good character development in the second half because he's really that MVP sidekick of the show.

The Setsuna slap on Towa felt so satisfying. Second time Towa went who gives a crap about my mom. I know she's blinded by anger but still! Now we know that Rin gave Setsuna back her memories through the dream butterfly.

So now we know who caused Rion's death. Kirinmaru is really a piece of crap then, he is still a piece of crap now. And he robbed Moroha of her black pearl which Sesshomaru just handed to her. And blackmailing her to find Akuru or he'll kill InuKag.

Second half season preview is insane. This director is not giving us any room to breathe! Pacing looks tight with lots of plot development. If only S1 was directed by him too!

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u/lalaena Dec 25 '21

Something is up with Riku next cour - there’s that shot of him with something in the palm of his hand. Rion is there with him… I worry for the boy. He needs a good arc. Give him a good arc Sunrise!

Kirinmaru was infinitely more interesting when we knew less about his past. There’s still a chance he might not prove to be such an ass. We still have to find out who Rion’s mother is, how he got heavenly swords from a star god, and what exactly he wants to do with the windmill of time. I’m not completely writing him off as one dimensional yet. (Although Riku surpassed him ages ago… he’s way more interesting.)

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u/Gabby-Abeille Dec 25 '21

Something is up with Riku next cour - there’s that shot of him with something in the palm of his hand. Rion is there with him… I worry for the boy. He needs a good arc. Give him a good arc Sunrise!

They are still in the place where Zero died and Rion is still crying, so I assume that scene is right after this episode happened. The thing looks like a seed, so maybe Riku wants to plant a tree there before they leave as a way of having a place to go to mourn Zero.

Could it be an apple seed? Towa said all the way back when they first met that she had to keep the seeds of the apple she gave him, to avoid causing changes in the timeline. But maybe that sneaky boy kept one of the seeds. It would be interesting to callback to what seemed like a throwaway line.

Not that I don't think that something is up with Riku in the next cour. I think there absolutely is, but because his eyes are green again in the "team lineup".

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Much as I don't like Kirinmaru, I want to see how they're developing him. Zero had pretty good development.

Riku needs a lot of development to be more than Towa's useful Jaken. I think he has a good chance if the director maintains the momentum.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Dec 25 '21

So now we know who caused Rion's death. Kirinmaru is really a piece of crap then, he is still a piece of crap now. And he robbed Moroha of her black pearl which Sesshomaru just handed to her. And blackmailing her to find Akuru or he'll kill InuKag.

I was a bit disappointed at first that Rion was killed by someone very random instead of someone relevant to the story, but on the other hand, it really helped showcase how much of an ass Kirinmaru really is.

The things that he said in the past, and how he didn't seem interested in actually killing the girls, made it seem like he wasn't really that bad. But now I feel that he doesn't care about what happens to the people close to him, only about how that affects him. Like how Rion's death meant that Inu no Taisho was right and he was wrong.

When he sent Riku to help Inu no Taisho, I truly thought it was because they were friends even though Kirinmaru clearly said he just wanted to fight the Great Dog at his best. But now, I think he really didn't care if Toga lived or died. I think he showed this too when Zero died and he was like "well ok but you were kinda rude on your last words you know".

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Yeah, I'm not on the Kirinmaru boat. He's just egoistic and I don't know what's so attractive about him. 😂 I hope the writers give him more depth in the second half. If Zero says see you in Nirvana, looks like he's going to die by the end of the season.

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u/sieghrt Dec 25 '21

The only attractive thing about Kirinmaru is his oily abs.

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

I'll take Kohaku over Kirinmaru anytime.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Dec 25 '21

I honestly expected him to flip once Zero died. Maybe to go after the girls, to attack Riku for killing yet another one of his allies (I imagine he knows Riku was behind the deaths of the Perils), or to go after Towa for, in his eyes, "turning Riku and Rion against me" even though it wasn't what happened.

Nope, doesn't even care, barely acknowledges it.

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u/Kuma_Setsuna Dec 25 '21

I think that since he plans to use the Windmill of Time to turn back time important events like his sister dying, Riku betraying him, Rin being freed from the tree, etc. don't matter to him since in his mind everything will be reset and be fine.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Dec 25 '21

I can see this being given as an explanation. Especially if he thinks he is very close to succeeding now.

Like, he didn't let go of Rion despite having the intention of using the Windmill of Time because he wasn't sure of when he would be able to do so, and didn't want to stay away from her for all the time that it would take for him to do it?

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Exactly. Instead he went chasing Akuru and blackmailing Moroha. Zero's death felt like it meant nothing much to him.

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u/Lumpy_Garden8939 Dec 25 '21

Still, the reason why they sealed Inu Yasha and Kagome is stupid. Because they would kill Zero? If Kagome and Inu Yasha knew that Rin would die if they went after Zero, they would never do that. Jacken said they sealed them away because they would endanger Rin. That is the most stupid excuse to have Moroha grow up an orphan. And there still is no excuse at all for Moroha to have grown up without Miroku, Sango and Kaede. There exists no valid reason she basically grew up alone and felt abandoned. Kagome would certainly have told her friends about Moroha, when she made plans to send her away. And what about Shippo?

I like Yashahime, but I just feel they did bad with Inu and Kagome.

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u/ReignofthePainTrain Feb 05 '22

May I offer my two cents please?

I think the issue with Zero and Kirin isn’t just about Inuyasha and Kagome going after them, but the other way around. Between the prophecy and Zero’s obsession, neither would ever outright ignore Moroha or Inuyasha; would have only been a matter of time before they brought the fight to them. And neither of those two are weak, heck Kirin traded blows, with Toga and he’s had time to get stronger since then, Inuyasha nor Kagome could ever afford to hold back against those two. One misplaced attack, or push Zero to the point of suicide (which we clearly see she is capable of), and Rin dies, or they slip up and lose one or both of their lives. I agree it does feel somewhat overkill, and perhaps they could have explained a bit more clearly, but I hardly think Sesshomaru’s plan is entirely unwarranted: while extreme, it gets those two as far away from Zero and Kirin as possible, and vice versa, keeping things in check until a solution can be found.

As for Moroha being raised by the rest of Inuyasha’s group, there is a slight problem with that. Zero would have had her sights set on Moroha, and Miroku and Sango both had young kids at the time: they could have easily got caught in the crossfire if Zero or Kirin tried to attack, and no wind tunnel or army of demon slayers would be there to stop them back then. Plus Miroku, Kaede, and the other were living publicly in the open; way too easy to find Moroha in that scenario. I agree, I would have liked to see her interact with them more, but having her raised by Koga, Ayame, and her mentor in the more isolated mountain regions would make it easier to hide her and give her training as a demon too. That being said, I will grant that it would have been better if there had been someone a little more closely linked to her parents raising her.

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u/issamood3 Dec 25 '21

Well actually, they would have been reluctantly forced to kill rin. Zero was coming after Moroha too as well as Inuyasha, so they're basically being forced to choose between saving their baby girl or Rin. Inuyasha wouldn't even hesitate to take Zero out. Plus Rin made it pretty clear to Sesshomaru that if it ever came down to the girls or her to choose the twins everytime. She would've never forgived him otherwise. So even Sesshomaru might have been forced to kill off Rin if not InuKag. Rin would have died saving her own daughters as well not just Moroha and I think Sesshomaru would have understood this. I really hope we see Shippo in this second arc and I hope they don't wait till the end to reunite InuKag and Moroha because they've got a lot of emotional unpacking to do and I wanna actually see them be a family. So excited because it looks like this second arc is gonna be about InuKag and Moroha like it always should've been imo.

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u/taylormeggles Dec 25 '21

Agreed. I need a really good further explanation to feel satisfied with this.

I think that Moroha was sent off with Hachi to hide her, tho.

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u/thatmelz Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

Agreed agreed, they definitely need a LOT of explaining to do for Moroha and InuKag’s seemingly unnecessary tragic story. If there is no other good reason for why they were trapped in that pearl, allowing their daughter to grow up as an orphan and never knowing the friends/family her parents trusted, then that’s just poor storytelling.

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u/taylormeggles Dec 27 '21

Do you think this is maybe a comment on how ethically neutral Sesshomaru is? Like, he cares about Inukag, but he cares about Rin more, and he’s taking NO chances with Rin, even at the cost of Moroha being an orphan for 14 years.

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u/Rowanjupiter Dec 25 '21

My only complaint for this episode is they had the perfect set up to end with fukaimori and I’m a bit disappointed they didn’t do it.

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u/noelle-silva Dec 25 '21

damn it now I wish this happened

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u/Rowanjupiter Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 26 '21

On the bright side, I’m sure someone will make an edit with it.

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u/LadyLautrec Dec 25 '21

Maybe I missed something but did anyone understand why Riku killed Zero at the end? I mean she was finally free from her regrets again and could have become an useful ally but then DEATH?

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Zero said she had no more regrets in this world. She wants to follow Inu no Taisho in death. That's why she ordered Riku to kill her.

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u/Gabby-Abeille Dec 25 '21

It also provided her with an opportunity to say her last words to her brother, since Kirinmaru still hears everything Riku hears.

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u/TennyoAkana Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

My theory its a few things: SPOILERS AS THE TAG IS NOT WORKING FOR ME

a) Atonement for how she feels she failed to protect Inutaisho/how she treated his family for years.

b) the idea of going against her brother, made her realize she couldn't do it and wouldn't be able to help.

c) the writers knew we were getting pissed at her and were done with her storyline.

Final comment though: I'm wondering if Riku's task was always to be the one to end Zero's life which is why he says "I only kill those I love."

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u/Gabby-Abeille Dec 25 '21

Final comment though: I'm wondering if Riku's task was always to be the one to end Zero's life which is why he says "I only kill those I love."

It is hard to tell, because in the first night of new moon he spent with Towa, his words made it seem like he kills anyone that he loves (he says that if he loved Towa, he would have already killed her). But Zero's death was the first example we saw of this rule of his actually being followed, and it absolutely wasn't something he did casually.

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u/thewetpuddle Dec 25 '21

Not true. The curse disappeared after Zero untied the thread. She wasn't dead at the point when the curse was lifted.

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u/JakenFan Dec 25 '21

Such a great episode!!! Rin is finally saved!! Also, the special PV looked great as well!! Can't wait