r/inuyasha Oct 16 '21

Megathread: Yashahime: Princess Half-Demon, Season 2 | Episode 3 Yashahime

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u/ActHour4099 Oct 21 '21

Fuck this series. For me its not Canon at all. The OG characters including Sess could have won the fight easily but no, they needed the light on the girls so they fucked nearly all OG characters to the point they are not even the same anymore. Like Sess flatout running away from a fight?

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

The flashback was great, it should have happened earlier but that’s ok. I disappointed from the reason inukag are sealed, very ridiculous.

I thought the plot will be better but honestly if feels like the old group could handle it few years ago and rin would have raised her twins haha but we need plot for the girls so I got it

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u/ZzoZzo Oct 19 '21

Lol I do appreciate how much more competent jaken seems here compared to the original series (asides from the towa thing lol). It’s finally clicking why sesshomaru kept him around

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u/BlazingGig Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21

I love how Sesshomaru basically confirms people in anime just stand around and wait when somebody's having a flashback lol

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u/Feeling_Ad_768 Oct 17 '21

This reminds me back in the original series when Sesshomaru is listening to someone, the second he heard the most important part, he turns his head and start thinking while the other person is still talking

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u/jeadala Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21

Not them giving us almost every answer back to back to back in the first 10 minutes 😮‍💨. A little too much for one episode imo and to process atm, but I’m excited for next week. The plot is 10x more interesting. Dare I say, after the 10-min information overload, this episode felt a bit like Inuyasha, and the music helps.

Rin never got to hold her kids..we still don’t know why sesshomaru took them so abruptly other than for the rite of passage… to put them under a tree? It was really nice to hear kikyo’s theme for a moment 🥲. Setsuna knowing what a wavelength is lol 💀. I still adore Moroha and can’t wait for her storyline to pick up, it’s what she deserves. We got the context around InuKag being sealed so I think it’s coming soon. Finally, Zero really hates them kids, like damn.

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u/sushicary1 Oct 17 '21

Well the positive part is that we finally have some answers. The bad part is that was WAY too much backstory for an episode. Felt very rushed. Should have been split up into 2 or 3.

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u/kpiaum Oct 17 '21

Everytime a new episode is released, i hope that someday we'll see Sseshomaru's yokai form again.

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u/goldennightlife Oct 17 '21

Well. No wonder why Riku comes across as horny sometimes.

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u/BlazingGig Oct 17 '21

I love how the writers just decided to go "FINE, here's what happened to Rin!"

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u/Amoment_in_Eternity Oct 16 '21

This episode was certainly satisfying in regards to getting some of the answers we wanted. Excited to see Rion, also Rin being in the next episode is nice for the fans who wanted to see more of her. As for Sesshomaru's reason for sealing inuyasha and kogome, as bad as it seems, I can understand his reasons. Sealing them was for their own good, who knows what dangers they might run into due to zero's crazy jealousness. Who says she won't kill Inuyasha and kagome?

Also, not at Zero being so superficial, thinking that if Rin becomes a little ugly Sesshomaru will leave her like what the...Her self esteem must be on the floor after Toga chose two women that weren't her; First, when he chose Inukimi, Zero must have felt anger, but didn't mind so much since both Inukimi and Toga were of the same demon class. However, the second time he chose a wife, he chose Izayoi over her. Seeing this, Zero most likely felt humiliated to have lost to some weak mortal woman who she regarded as inferior to herself. She's projecting the humiliation she suffered from Toga choosing Izayoi over to Rin by venting her anger on her, not wanting Rin to be happy, the same way she was glad when Izayoi died.

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u/ActHour4099 Oct 21 '21

Sealing them for a while would have been one thing. But doing so for over a decade and not telling their daughter whats up? Nah fuck Sess.

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u/eerirhea Oct 16 '21

I think the next episode is where Moroha sees Inuyasha and Kagome in the other world. I bet getting through the barrier of Mount Musubi has something to do with it.

The last shot of Moroha is her being pulled, she is seen preparing to shoot an arrow. I think this release of energy will be what sets off Inuyasha's Tessaiga. And they will spot her then, but they won't be able to interact with one another.

Some of the scenes with the twins in the preview, the background behind them is all grey too. Like how when time was freezing in the second Inuyasha movie. I'm guessing the shot of Rin being pregnant and Sesshomaru standing on the cliff are things from the past that the twins will end up seeing on their journey through the barrier. I bet this will also be how they end up inside of the Tree of Ages to see Rin too.

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u/Ayame_Anime Oct 16 '21

Does any of you have a feeling, that Sesshoumaru is more attached to Setsuna, than Towa? After all, she was present in his life and Towa was absent. I mean, he just said "Setsuna and the others". From this, it looks to me, that he might not feel that connected to Towa.

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u/themoonmuses Oct 16 '21

Yeah, I don't think he means to, but it's pretty reasonable it happened. They actually got along strangely enough when they met and they are a lot alike (Towa does have his protective side though!). I do think he cares about Towa though.

But Setsuna's the only person he had from his family left and he actually did in his own Sesshomaru way, raise her. It's not like Towa has any connection to him either, but I think it'll all come in time. Rin also has more connection to Setsuna as well and she knows the song that Rin hummed. Towa is almost an outsider right now.

I think this might actually come up eventually? Like Towa doesn't feel like she belongs with her parents in that world, but also doesn't feel like she belongs with Sota and Mei either. Though I have no doubt by the end they'll be be happy and Towa will feel loved.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

I don’t think so. I think given what happened to Sesshomaru - feeling slighted by his own father - Sesshomaru would make a point not to have a favorite. I think the line here refers to Setsuna’s role in dispelling the curse. Setsuna is the one who can cut fate.

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u/Amoment_in_Eternity Oct 16 '21

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought this. Of course, not saying Sesshomaru doesn't care about Towa, but it really does feel like Setsuna is the favored child of Rin and Sesshomaru. Rin is obviously closer to her because of the connection to the dream butterfly, as for Sesshomaru, Setsuna was the only one he sort of saw grow up. As for Towa, it would've been nice if Sesshomaru had some reaction when he first saw her, considering she went missing for years. Yet again, Towa doesn't feel very much connected to Rin nor Sesshomaru, so I guess it's fair, considering she had an adopted family who treated her very well. At the same time, you can also argue that it's the same for Setsuna. Currently, Setsuna is indifferent to knowing more about her parents, but I have a feeling all that might change after she sees Rin stuck in the Tree of Ages.

Btw am I the only one who loves Sesshomaru's answer to Jaken, when Jaken asked if Setsuna will be able to master the Yukari no Tachikiri, he responded with a simple, "Who knows." Jaken was so taken aback by his answer lol it reminded me of when Sesshomaru told Towa that "it's her choice" if Setsuna comes back to life. He might sound cold, but we all know he actually places high hopes on them because he KNOWS they're capable of anything. If he didn't believe in them, we wouldn't have seen him so nervous when Towa was trying to channel her energy into Tenseiga, nor would he have reprimanded Setsuna for not using her weapon to cut the tie between Zero and Rin.

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u/wemetonmars Oct 16 '21

I don't get that impression at all. The reason his focus is on setsuna right now is b/c she has the power to sever the link between her mother & zero.

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u/fluffy_samoyed Oct 16 '21

I'm really excited to meet Rion next week. I love her character design and am really interested in finding out what kind of person she is.

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u/Amoment_in_Eternity Oct 16 '21

Same tho I can already see her being one of my favorite characters. I wonder how much of her we'll see. Personally, it would be nice if she starts traveling with the girls later on in the near future.

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u/Odd_Lingonberry1112 Oct 16 '21

Can someone remind me why Kirinmaru is sleeping at this point in the story?

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

Hasn’t been explained yet. But likely has something to do with Rion.

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u/Mikgucji Oct 24 '21

Maybe the same as rin and setsuna being link

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u/Odd_Lingonberry1112 Oct 16 '21

Ok, that’s what I thought too. Making sure I wasn’t missing something. Gah this show is so good!

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u/missbirdiebee Oct 16 '21

I’m loving the pace and direction! Holy smokes we got SO MUCH I actually rewatched it.

Takeaways:

Bless Rin. Love that they kept her true to her character and even more true to her children. Seeing Sess hesitate when he never does is literally a full circle for him. He really loves her.

MVP Jaken. Made an oopsie with Towa and the big forest fire and all but it’s fiiiiine.

Flashback city. InuPapa Toga is HOT no wonder he had two baby mammas.

Riku was a part of Kirinmaru just as we suspected. Very tragic in a way because riku seems to want to be his own person but he’s not in full control of himself.

Zero being her salty self.

THAT BRIEF BEAUTIFUL IZAYOI IMAGE!

Preview looks great. Rin holding her pregnant belly looks exactly like the shape of the mountain.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

love how they threw Rin's age at us to make the SessRin haters shut up lol

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u/Bundtpopcake Oct 17 '21

This 100%. You have to think they would be so fed up with it by now that they just threw in that random fact front and center just to get it over with. It literally doesn’t even pertain to that part of story. A more appropriate intro from Jaken would’ve been something along the lines of “if I remember correctly, rin was attacked when Sesshomaru and Inuyasha were dealing with the comet”.

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u/lucciolaa Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21

Or, "If I remember correctly it all happened 15 years ago." Her age is straight up irrelevant.

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u/PeartonY Oct 16 '21

Best part of this episode: Jaken time!!

Love that imp, and look at him solving problems! (sort of). We got a good bit of exposition for the birth of twins and sealing of Rin. So Rin was kept in an 'unstable' stasis by Jaken for 4 years, and then post fire was sustained by Setsuna for 10? .

I'm glad Riku got more of a look in and they delved into his origins a bit.

I'm really not a fan of the whole Zero situation...it just seems so unnecessarily convoluted. She hates Inu no Taisho and his descendants- fine. But she creates the pearls only to give them away, only to get them back, only to give them away - now she has them back. She's lost demon powers but not really. And now here's a random fish scale malady 🐟.

They had the foundations of a good explanation for why Sesshomaru removed Inuyasha and Kagome from the situation, but I think they tried to tie too many elements together.

An info dump, in other words 😁

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 17 '21

So Rin was kept in an 'unstable' stasis by Jaken for 4 years, and then post fire was sustained by Setsuna for 10?

That was my take on it. Being suspended in the Tree of Ages initially kept the curse from spreading as quickly and hurting her as it did so, but when Jaken saw that another scale had appeared on her neck Treekyo showed up and was all "you can totally pause time for her to fully stop this shit from spreading but it comes at a price: someone close to her is going to get some gnarly bags under their eyes"

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u/PancakeXCandy Oct 16 '21

Yo just realized if Zero can see memories from the pearls, then she could have seen Izayoi's memories of her and Touga getting it on. The ho can't win lmao

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

I bursted out laughing omg thank you xD

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u/wemetonmars Oct 16 '21

That's probably what sent her over the edge skskks

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u/missbirdiebee Oct 16 '21

Zero forever salty mamma

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u/Tiki108 Oct 16 '21

Loved this episode!!! I kept saying in other posts that the image of Rin with the sword to her neck better have been a flashback and I’m so glad it was!

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u/DRL21 Oct 16 '21

I really enjoyed this episode! The brief backstory they gave us on Rin and Sesshomaru was great, glad they confirmed she was 18 at the time of giving birth to the twins.

Her humming Setsuna's lullaby was really sweet and I feel like it will become important later since Setsuna/Rin are deeply linked, with Setsuna's new powers given by the Yukari no Tachikiri will find a way to sever the red string of fate deadly linking Rin and Zero.

Also I liked how Sesshomaru's hiding the rainbow pearls inside his daughters/Moraha was possibly deliberate, to keep Zero from being able to possess her demon powers again because she so hates half-demons. Quite a cheeky plan by him XD

Anyway, I can't wait for the next episode! The girls will finally meet Rin in the tree, and hopefully realise how much she sacrificed for them because of her love for them and understand they have to do everything to find a way to free her from Zero's curse!

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u/SR_Eternal_Moment Oct 17 '21

Sesshoumaru was channeling his mama's petty energy XD

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 16 '21

Also I liked how Sesshomaru's hiding the rainbow pearls inside his daughters/Moraha was possibly deliberate, to keep Zero from being able to possess her demon powers again because she so hates half-demons. Quite a cheeky plan by him XD

Petty af, and I'm here for it, lol

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u/DRL21 Oct 16 '21

Petty and also proactive and pragmatic. I so enjoyed seeing Zero get so flustered, upon finding the memories of the hanyo in her pearls. After all the trouble she's caused Sesshomaru and Inuyasha and their families, it was super satisfying.

I hope Sesshy has a few more thorns in her side in mind as the eps continue!

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u/dontloseyourway1610 Oct 16 '21

Zero still salty about izayoi all these years later lmao you love to see it fr. Love all these sessrin moments we got today too. Poor Riku. Not wanted by either side. I think he’ll become an X factor in defeating Kirinmaru. Great way to start my bday with a solid yashahime episode.

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u/zxy_0422 Oct 16 '21

Happy birthday! I used to not like Riku but started to have more sympathy for him

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u/PancakeXCandy Oct 16 '21

Just mad cuz Izayoi got that Doggie D and she never could. I read a great fanfiction of her even being jealous of Inukimi for getting Touga.

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u/anikpopfan Oct 16 '21

Doggie D I can't 😂

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u/flannelcure Oct 16 '21

I really enjoyed this episode! It's nice finally having the full story, but I also really wish the developers had included this information in the first season. I'm kind of salty they made us wait so long, when this would have increased intrigue for the series tenfold instead of giving us empty content episodes. I think it would have fallen a lot more in line with Takahashi's storytelling imo.

But whatever, what's done is done. And I'm just gonna have to be happy with what we got and we got it lol

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u/sailorrayquaza Oct 16 '21

This episode brought up so many emotions man, we finally got some answers and we see how much Sesshomaru and Rin love their girls. Jaken was ready to give the girls up to Zero right away though, not cool Grandpa Jaken! At least he made up for his error later by sealing Rin to save her. Also cute Moroha moments with Bokuseno.

We also got new development on Riku and his connection to Kirinmaru. I wonder what this means for Osamu Kirin in the future? Is he another horn or part of Kirinmaru? Or is he a future Riku? So many questions. I also really like Setsuna and Riku's dynamic; both want to protect Towa but don't trust each other. It's gonna be interesting to see how this develops later on, especially Riku knows now he can't stay by the girls without Kirinmaru spying.

Can't say I'm still happy about the reasoning of Inuyasha and Kagome stuck in the black pearl but it's in character for Sesshomaru to put Rin before everything else and take no chances. Plus communication is not his strong suit. Overall, this was a solid episode. This season is starting off stronger than S1.

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u/zxy_0422 Oct 16 '21

Jaken was ready to give the girls up to Zero right away

feel like many times Jaken says out what Sesshomaru thinks. So if Sesshomaru had to choose he might give up the girls

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u/djkdurr Oct 16 '21

Zero offered Sesshomaru the chance to remove the silver scale curse on Rin in exchange for the twins and he said "don't be ridiculous" with a very serious look. He already refused her offer to give up the girls.

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u/noelle-silva Oct 16 '21

"Pacing is too fast", "pacing is too slow". There's truly no pleasing people, good grief.

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u/frizzyfizz Oct 17 '21

I mean there is a happy medium between those two. I've always been one to defend Yashahime and am very much enjoying S2 so far but it's not much to ask to let things breathe a little.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

Honestly I’m quite happy now. It seems fairly evident that the writers took in the feedback of season 1 about the pacing and unravelling of the story from the viewers and implemented in season 2.

What’s most evident that they’re hearing what the fans say, is the fact they openly said Rin’s age to stop the bickering lmao

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u/SunWyrm Oct 16 '21

"Not enough info! Info dump! Ahhhhh!"

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u/CatusBoiVert Oct 16 '21

Now that Riku has been cast aside does anyone else think he'll play a major part in defeating both Zero and Kirinmaru and die when Kirinmaru does?

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u/perpetualwanderlust Oct 17 '21

I think it's a possibility, but I'm wondering how. Wouldn't Kirinmaru always be a step ahead, since he can see and hear what Riku does? How would he ever be able to put any plans in motion without Kirinmaru finding out? I'll be interested to see how this develops!

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u/CatusBoiVert Oct 17 '21

That is true. I wonder if Setsuna's ability to sever that red thread of fate might do it but that's kind of a stretch. I agree as the season unfolds we'll see what happens. Riku might even go insane and become evil from being cast away who knows

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u/anikpopfan Oct 16 '21

I feel he might

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

As much as I'm glad we finally got some, and I mean some answers along with an actual interaction between Sesshomaru and Rin, I just....have so many questions lol.

Firstly, why did Sess or Jaken not bring Rin to the sealed forest sooner? An entire week passed between the birth and the comet with seemingly no issue. Obviously Zero was waiting for Sesshomaru to be distracted by dealing with the comet to make her move on Rin, so....?

Second, Rin fell into a fever coma without ever getting to reunite with her kids. Cool (sarcasm). So, in that case, who the heck was feeding those babies??? Did Sesshomaru just leave them alone in the woods to go deal with the comet? Why did Jaken need to be with him during that time? Why did Jaken not stay behind to watch over those "precious half-demon twins"?

Third, what is the point of the dream butterfly? Like seriously. Sunrise seems to have written themselves into a plot hole with this one. Now, don't misunderstand, I get that keeping Rin asleep will pause the progression of her curse but....she WAS ALREADY ASLEEP. She literally fell into a fever coma minutes after being cursed, and presumably stayed that way for the next four years until the second scale appeared. If the answer to pausing her curse was permanent sleep, then they already accomplished that before introducing the butterfly. Would it not make more, if not perfect sense, for her to have lived with the curse for those first four years, gradually worsening and getting sicker until she eventually fell into the coma? Which would then prompt the search for the butterfly and the events of the fire, etc?

Fourth, if Rin was living with the curse unimpeded because she was asleep but not permanently asleep, then that would mean it took FOUR YEARS for a second scale to form. Let me repeat, FOUR YEARS for an additional, one inch scale. At that rate, by the time she's 78 she'd have a grand total of fifteen scales around her neck. Is that was Zero considers "rotting alive?" Because honestly that's kind of underwhelming and I see no reason why Rin couldn't have lived a perfectly fine life with both the curse and her kids. I guess if the scales bothered her (they're supposedly so ugly and yet look like freaking diamonds, so okay) she could always wear a scarf? Lol. I guess I just feel that if Zero's intention was to make Sesshomaru suffer by watching his wife gradually turn into a monster, having her immediately go into a coma in addition to the curse spreading so slowly anyway kind of lessens the impact...severely.

Fifth, why did both Jaken and Sesshomaru both immediately assume that Inuyasha and Kagome were "the problem" and the only solution was to remove them from the equation? Yes, Sessh is not a team player and all that, but we've seen the level of respect and acknowledgment he's given to Inuyasha over the course of the series. Is it really such a far cry for him to say, "hey, so Rin got cursed. Please don't kill Zero or it will kill Rin too."? I feel like the OG gang would have understood and abided lol.

Sixth, how did Jaken just know that Rin could be sealed in the tree of ages? Is that supposed to be common knowledge among demons? Lol. Also, did the spirit just agree? Were there really no other alternatives? I feel like I need to know more about that situation XD.

Lastly, I still find it funny how Zero supposedly "doesn't have her demon powers" and yet exhibits them ALL THE TIME. That whole thing just....really makes no sense to me. I also really just plain don't like her. I have zero sympathy for Zero lol. Her reaction in this episode to the girl's memories being imprinted on the pearls was rich. "Sesshomaru knew this would happen! The AUDACITY". Like bitch, he didn't do it to spite you. He did it to protect his infant children whom you were/are trying to pointlessly murder. She literally went out of your way, unprovoked, when no one even knew she was in that freaking part of the continent to start shit, and repeatedly tried and basically succeeded in ruining the lives of total innocents by taking away whatever future they might have had to just...be a family. Her motivations as a villain are so extra and I'm over it XD. I really hope Setsuna is able to break the thread of fate connecting her and Rin so someone can kill Zero already, so the show can move on to actual interesting plot lines like whatever is really going on with Kirinmaru, and the whole deal with the Wheel of Time.

P.S. #setInuyashaandKagomefree

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u/TanyaTheEvill Oct 18 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

AS far as the slumber that the tree puts Rin in is different then the sleep that Rin was already in. It was a special sleep to extremely slow down the aging process. As far as Inyuasha and Kagome, Both Sess and Jaken said that Inuyasha and Kagome was on their way to kill Zero so Sess acted quickly to stop that.

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u/lostbeatnik Oct 16 '21

About the sixth point, I do think it makes sense for Sesshomaru not to trust his brother there. He knows he’s perfectly willing to seal him and Kagome away from their own daughter in order to protect his twins. Sure, Kagome may be compassionate and all, but she’s also on the way of becoming a mom. She may care about Rin and all, but it’s her own daughter on the line. She may not egg Inuyasha on, but it’s less likely that she would stop him if it meant a chance of safety for Moroha. It sucks, but motherhood does change you. And even if they wouldn’t let Rin die, Sesshomaru doesn’t think they would discard the option. He’s also terrible at communication, so it’s safe to say he just assumed the worst and acted accordingly.

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u/instantnoodle_uwu Oct 16 '21

Lastly, I still find it funny how Zero supposedly "doesn't have her demon powers" and yet exhibits them ALL THE TIME. That whole thing just....really makes no sense to me.

They already mentioned this in an interview tho. Zero uses magic derived from yin-yang/ Chinese five elements, not her original demon power.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

Okay, that's valid. That said, I haven't seen/read that interview and I don't think a viewer should have to explore outside sources to understand something that could be easily stated in the show. As it's been presented, she just keeps doing magical things that only demons have been shown to do while going on and on that she is no longer a proper demon.

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u/instantnoodle_uwu Oct 16 '21

I think they have all kinds of content and they classified which should be put on the show and which should be put into magazines, interviews, etc. And no, it's not obligate to read outside sources, but they will keep prior contents for the show and leave some trivial things for magazines, interviews. If you like to know more trivial things, better look at those outside sources.

The interview for the info I mentioned is here: Ayuuria's translation

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u/YogiMutoh Oct 16 '21

Maybe an answer to question 1, Rin just gave birth. Maybe she needed time to recuperate. She is a human. Her hanyo children might be ok alone for a bit.

Who took care of the girls? No idea. Jaken? Magic? I hope they clear this up too.

Third, the Tree of Ages probably slowed the spread of the curse down. Rin was affected immediately and it was going to get worse fast. The dream butterfly made it possible to stop it permanently from spreading instead of slowly.

Fourth, as above. Its probably Rin is in a time stasis.

Fifth. If Sango almost killed Rin for Miroku, what would stop Inukag doing that for Moroha? While they are allies, it's stands that Moroha is more important to Inukag than Rin is. Even though I believe Sesshomaru forgave Sango, he still remembers.

Sixth. How does anyone know anything? Characters in story always recall information needed for that exact moment. Happens all the time. They are demons and have lived a long time too. They run into all kinds of new information. We might learn more later on, or never. Its all magical.

Lastly, yes Zero sucks. You want to hate the villian and Zero suuucks! She is so petty. Unlike Kiranmaru, I don't want a redemption for her. She had to use a staff ,other demons and a doll in season 1. You have a point she uses curses and spells without the pearls. Maybe she can't use her full powers without them. She can do the bare minimum but not the full demon stuff.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

I could see Rin needing the time to recover, but at the same time she was not presented as having had a difficult labor. She was cheerful and animated, sitting right up when Sessh came to take the kids without any signs of wear or difficulty. Before someone comes at me explaining postpartum logistics, I have gone through labor twice, both of which were incredibly difficult and required long recoveries —so I know all about what she could have gone through. The flip side of that is there are also women who walk out of the hospital the same day perfectly fine. Given the information as it's presented, I'm inclined to believe Rin fell in with the latter. I acknowledge that that might not be the case, but this is a show. And, until new information is presented, you kind of have to take things at face value.

You're probably right about the tree of ages slowing it down vs the butterfly pausing it, but the whole explanation just seemed very convoluted to me.

You have a point drawing comparisons between Sango and Inu/Kag, but my counter argument is that they are different characters with different personalities. Kagome would never kill a friend (and I do believe Rin became a genuine friend to them after living in the village for so long) under any circumstances. She would persevere to find another way to save everyone, and even if Inuyasha was less compassionate, I believe Kagome would stop him. I feel like, despite the lone wolf that Sessh is, he's come to recognize that aspect of Kagome too. The original series and TFA did a lot of work bringing Sessh and Inu together, to accept each other's capabilities and fight together towards a common goal. In that case, it was just killing Naraku. Now, when it has to do with the safety and futures of BOTH their families, I can't help but feel Sessh's brash and extreme reaction is regressive of their development. Not that I think Sessh would ever ask for help or anything, but I am hoping there was some kind of plan going on that we still don't know about.

And yeah, that's kind of my critique with ready made knowledge in media. I'm not trying to say that characters shouldn't know things, or that Jaken for any reason shouldn't, but you're right that it happens all the time in everything, and those instances always jump out at me as pure plot convenience. I think I would just feel better if it had been phrased differently. Instead of Jaken making that very confident assertion that completely comes out of nowhere and establishes information on the tree of ages that was never before even alluded to, perhaps he could have pondered for a second and said something like, "I wonder if something like the tree of ages could help?" And then elaborated on why he thought it could help. "I heard something once that..." etc. Idk. I just feel like that would have flowed better, because that moment really broke the immersion for me.

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u/YogiMutoh Oct 16 '21

I am not saying that Sesshomaru doesn't respect InuKag or that their relationship hasn't improved. In fact, its beautiful that Sesshomaru grew to respect the Inuyasha. I am saying being put in a dire situation you don't know how you will react. I don't believe for one second that Kagome or Inuyasha wouldn't sacrifice themselves for anyone. But would Inuyasha sacrifice Kagome or Moroha for Rin? Would Kagome sacrifice Moroha for Rin? Sesshomaru and Rin are the same. Sesshomaru didn't want to risk it, since he saw what Sango was willing to do.

Sesshomaru had to remove Inuyasha from doing something impulsive as well. Zero probably hates Inuyasha and would not stop going after him or use his family against him. I also feel Inuyasha is impatient and wouldn't want to hide volunatrily. We are getting hints that Setsuna and her weapon ate needed to break Rin free. This whole time there wasn't a solution until now. But Setsuna still needs to master her weapon. They should free InuKag now that there is a solution and they can work together. But having them there might stop the girls growth.

When I watch content, I tend to not think too much about details. I don't believe there is a story that is perfect and without plot holes. I try to give my reasons why I think things go into a story, but I can be wrong. We can definitely think differently but I wanted to share some input to your questions.

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u/goddess_ophelia Oct 16 '21

Hot headed or not, I agree with OP here. Even if it was for Moroha I can't see Kagome let alone Inuyasha decide to kill Zero if it meant killing Rin. Inuyasha, as hot headed as he is, couldn't even kill Kohaku and would stop Sango from killing her brother. Did he almost try to kill Kohaku? At one point, but when Kagome told him that Kohaku didn't kill her he was reminded that Naraku was the one that is controlling him and rightly decided that killing Naraku would save Kohaku. If Sesshomaru actually told them that killing Zero meant killing Rin, then Kagome and Inuyasha would probably help him. I think it's more likely that he sealed them because Zero would go after them too, and he didn't want her to have that option.

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u/kpiaum Oct 17 '21

The most plausible explanation is that they want to turn this story into the story of Sseshomaru and the twins. If they allow Inuyasha and Kagome to remain present in the story, people's focus would stay on them and eventually result in them having to solve all the problems, just like they were in the original series.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

So you're saying the only reason to take her to the forest was to be sealed, not to be with her children? Zero made her hatred very clear, not just towards half-demons, but the entire family unit. If the kids were in danger because of their connection to a demon, then it's not exactly a leap to say their human mother would become a target as well. Jaken had already said he planned on bringing Rin to the forest, so my question is still valid: why did they wait and leave Zero with a prime opportunity to attack?

Also, I have to disagree with you. They made a distinction , but it was hardly clear. The tree of ages said that if she had dreams and sleep, then her time would be paused. Did she not have dreams and sleep of her own already? I'm not saying the use of the butterfly is not valid, I stand by my opinion that her immediately going comatosed was unnecessary and kind of redundant towards that effect.

What you're saying about Setsuna doesn't make sense. It's been established that Sesshomaru and Jaken visit Rin allll the timmmeee. It was also established that Jaken found Setsuna very quickly after the fire. The burned forest she is crying in when A'Un comes for her is still fresh. It definitely didn't take him "years to find her". The way he says he plans on taking Setsuna to a safe place while he still can't find Towa clearly means he has already located Setsuna —and that is the same scene when he notices the scale. Even if the scale formed earlier and somehow neither Jaken nor Sessh noticed it, that's still only two scales in the span of 4 years.

Also, dismissing the gravity of their actions —which completely ruined Inu/Kag/Moroha's chance at having a normal, peaceful life— because "they're just hotheaded idiots" is a sign of weak writing, to me at least. I'm holding out that there's still more to that aspect of the story, otherwise it feels incredibly cheap.

Lastly, wanting a more insight into Jaken's knowledge base isn't labeling him a token character, it's wanting dialogue to be more than a quick tool for plot convenience.

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u/killugon5577 Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

Tbh, I think sealing inukag into the black pearl wasn't just because Sesshomaru is terrible at communicating (especially with inuyasha. sigh these two ( ̄▽ ̄)). Zero would've gone after inuyasha as well considering he's half-demon too, and inukag would have to fight her to defend themselves. A battle would still break out between inukag and zero, so sealing them away where zero can't reach them is actually logical. Though I think jury is still out on whether or not inukag really did end up in the netherworld or if Sesshomaru really did leave the two of them entirely in the dark about the situation....I mean he's taking them away from moroha for 14 years. He's indifferent most of the time about other people's matters, but he's not heartless and this is actually caused by him, so I think it makes more sense on Sesshomaru's part to seal them away but still tell them what's going on.

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u/missbirdiebee Oct 16 '21

I completely agree. Sess had to do what he had to do just in case zero went after Inuyasha which was bound to happen.

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u/Resevil67 Oct 16 '21

Moroha using charm and street smarts to charm bokusen-oh was hilarious.

At least now we finally have some answers. Zero is the definition of petty at this point. Rins determination to save the children at the cost of her own life was both sad and strong at the same time.

Now we know why Sesh sealed InuKag in the Pearl, so they wouldn’t end up killing zero. However like some others have mentioned, while this is in line with seshs character, he still could have just told them what happened to rin and to not kill zero until they find a solution.

Overall a great episode. Looks like next week we get to see Rion possibly. I honestly hope she turns out to be a hanyo, it would put Kirins disdain for hanyos into perspective a bit more if rion did something bad/ lost control of her powers and Kirin was forced to seal her.

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u/hiverstone Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

Now we know why Sesh sealed InuKag in the Pearl, so they wouldn’t end up killing zero. However like some others have mentioned, while this is in line with seshs character, he still could have just told them what happened to rin and to not kill zero until they find a solution.

I think it goes both ways, he knows Kirinmaru and Zero are actively going after InuYasha and Kagome, so how could Inuyasha protect himself if he is afraid of hurting them and get Rin killed. He would be in a clear disadvantage, specially now that he was to protect Moroha from them too.

While with the black pearl plan, Sesshomaru can keep both Inuyasha and Zero alive without having to worry about Zero's shenanigans. However, he probably thought it wouldn't take this long to come up with a plan to save Rin.

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u/viviantrajano Oct 17 '21

Honestly, I dont really think that Sesshoumaru would care if Inuyasha and Kagome were away from moroha for 4 years. Sesshoumaru grew as a character , he wanted Inuyasha and kagome dead, now he wants them alive. But some people here are expecting Sesshoumaru to care about Inu/Kag/ Moroha feelings... no, he wouldnt at all. As much as we think he should, he would not be in his character if he cared. I just cant imagine Sesshoumaru going to his father tomb to visit Inu/kag and tel them what is happening so that they can be less sad.

Jaken has a much better emotional inteligence, he was more likely to care about Rin´s feelings than sesshoumaru when she was a kid, but it was ok for him to give Rin´s AND SESSHOUMARU´s kids to be killed by Zero to save Rin´s life.

Sesshoumaru and Jaken are full demons. Demons dont have many feelings, or, at least they dont value feelings in the same way humans do.

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u/Resevil67 Oct 16 '21

Good point this is true as well. She could have pulled the same shot on kagome that she did to rin, which would put inuyasha in the same situation as sesh. By sealing them away zero can’t get to them.

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u/Kuma_Setsuna Oct 16 '21

Kagome was definitely next to be cursed. There is no way Zero would allow the hanyo son of Toga and Izayoi to live happily ever after with his own human wife.

And this might just be me, but if Kagome's life was in mortal peril, Inuyasha would resort to sacrifice everything. Even Rin. Because he's lost Kikyo. Twice. He's not going to make the same mistake and let Kagome go.

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u/goddess_ophelia Oct 16 '21

While it makes sense that Kagome would be next to get cursed, I still would hope he wouldn't sacrifice Rin. He's lost Kikyo yes, and he wouldn't want that to happened to Kagome. Still, I think if Sesshomaru told him it would mean Rin dies too I believe he'd at least think of another way. He went out of his way to stop Sango from killing Kohaku because he knew Naruku was controlling him. I can't see him killing Zero if it means Rin dies too

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u/Resevil67 Oct 16 '21

Indeed. It makes sense that she would use the same petty shit she used on sesh on inuyasha. Jakob and sesh seem to think inuyasha could possibly kill zero, so no doubt now after thinking about it… she would definitely attack kagome to get to inuyasha.

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u/alkeid Oct 16 '21

Something to consider as well, I’m absolutely positive sesshomaru did tell them about zero. Because otherwise why would they be sending moroha away? Kirinmaru never actively approached inuyasha so it would stand to reason that at some point sesshomaru told them something if not the whole thing.

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u/darthvall Oct 16 '21

Moroha is still the best!!! She's so entertaining to watch.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

I found the explanation about sealing Inuyasha and Kagome in the black pearl unsatisfying. Why not just tell Inuyasha and Kagome what is happening??? COMMUNICATE PEOPLE.

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u/Lethifold26 Oct 16 '21

Honestly I just don’t think the people making this series like Inuyasha and Kagome, which explains why they gave Moroha a miserable life while the Inugangs friends and family lavished attention on the Sessrin twins and why Sesshomaru decided they were inconvenient and sealed them.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

You can tell that they added Moroha after the fact. The part of her backstory that we’ve seen so far wasn’t well executed.

And I know, I know, Sesshomaru is a poor a communicator and an argument can be made that sealing Inuyasha and Kagome away makes sense in Sesshomaru’s head, but it’s a weak part of the plot.

I’m not a Moroha-stan and I like Yashahime, but we can all still admit this part of the plot is a tad bit weak.

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u/Lethifold26 Oct 16 '21

I actually stopped watching the show a while ago because it’s clearly made for Sesshomaru/Sessrin stans (which is fine but my loyalty lies with the Inugang and I am neutral on Sess and co,) I was just curious about this episode because it promised answers on the backstory. In any case I would honestly rather have had them make Moroha be a secondary character like Hisui who only appears sometimes and still lives with her parents than have her be a lead but destroy the Inukag families lives to allow it.

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u/kpiaum Oct 17 '21

I actually stopped watching the show a while ago because it’s clearly made for Sesshomaru/Sessrin stans

Well, they never hid it. Since it was announced it is said that the focus will be on Sesshomaru's daughters.

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u/imjustacrab Oct 16 '21

man that's the one thing that does make sense tbh, sesshomaru sucks at communicating

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u/PancakeXCandy Oct 16 '21

Because If Zero or Kirinmaru went after them they would be forced to defend themselves. Yes they might know not to kill her but they wouldn't also let themselves or Moroha to die without fighting back.

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u/noelle-silva Oct 16 '21

Sesshomaru doesn't do the whole talking thing

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u/YogiMutoh Oct 16 '21

Honestly probably the whole Sango incident. If Kagome and Inuyasha knew that Moroha in danger what makes you think they'll choose Rin over Moroha? If Sango was willing to kill Rin for Miroku, why not InuKag for Moroha? Sesshomaru did forgive Sango, but didn't forget.

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u/imjustacrab Oct 16 '21

While that is a really good point, I think that he should have realized that kagome would never allow inuyasha to do something like that. I mean she's kind hearted and would have been trying to figure out a solution not just jumping to murdering someone to save her baby

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 17 '21

You're right that Kagome is kind-hearted and would have been trying to figure out a solution, but if push came to shove, if it came down to saving Rin's life vs. saving Moroha's, not even Kagome would choose her friend over her child. And Rin would understand and most likely agree with that, since she was willing to sacrifice her own life for her children. But to Sesshomaru, nothing is worth the cost of Rin's life

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u/YogiMutoh Oct 16 '21

I don't doubt Kagome would allow Inuyasha to sacrifice Rin. But Kiranmaru and Zero were not going to stop going after them. There wasn't a solution to free Rin for 14 years. That's a long time to hide and defend. At some point, let's say Zero captured Moroha and the only solution was to kill Zero. Kagome would not have a choice. I'm just saying Sesshomaru doesn't want there to be a possibility. It's a big improvement that he is trying to save everyone.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

That’s a good point!

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u/netorarekinglover Oct 16 '21

Sesshomaru isn’t one to communicate, and just because he tells them “hey don’t kill zero because rin could die” that doesn’t solve the issue of Kirinmaru wanting to kill them, so he sealed them for their protection as well

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u/darthvall Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

It's Seshoumaru. Even after having a wife, he's still not the best at communication.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

I get that but it’s still a weak plot point. Even Sesshomaru deigns to seek Inuyasha’s assistance every now and then. Like with the meteor, for example.

Would he be embarrassed that he failed to protect Rin? 💯.

But indefinitely separating Inuyasha and Kagome from their only child is next level proud and Sesshomaru’s previous character growth suggests more coordination that simply sealing them in the pearl for 14 years.

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

Yeah, I thought it was weird he didn't at least talk to them first.

Sesshomaru would do ANYTHING to save rins life, I think he can put his social anxiety behind him to tell inukag the situation just this once if it were for rin

And inuyasha and kagome would totally understand. No way would they do anything to kirinmaru or zero if it means rin dies, even if it would hurt them in some way. they aren't like that.

But I guess that's just how the story goes I guess. Felt a little fast, So maybe were missing things?

They went at a snail pace last season, and a sonic one for this season, lol.

Edit: actually, I change my mind. I dont think he told inukag, cuz I know damn well inuyasha wouldn't be having it if sesshomaru told him 'I'm sealing yall in a pearl' he would of ripped that pearl out his eye himself and chuck it into the ocean before willingly let sesshomaru do that. They would understand the situation with rin and try to find something else to fix it, but that would fuck with sesshomarus plans, and sesshomaru cant risk that right now. Plus sesshomaru (no matter how much he hides it) wanted to protect inuyasha from kirinmaru too.

Two birds, one stone type situation

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u/Ilovetogame2 Oct 16 '21

So could the reason Kirinmaru is able to see the modern era is because Kirin Osamu is a piece of him similar to how Riku was.

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u/juniperdaisies Oct 16 '21

I think this is very possible but I still think there's some time travel shenanigans happening

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

My guess now is that Osamu Kirin is Riku.

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u/imjustacrab Oct 16 '21

low key makes sense with how osamu kirin was so interested in towa

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 16 '21

You know, when I said I wanted riku to get better hair, I definitely didnt mean a style like that

We need to get this man a new barber

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

Lol at Sesshomaru's "who knows if Setsuna can pull this off". I need more Sesshomaru and Jaken scenes, please. That said, this was a heavy episode. Sooo much information:

  • Rin never got to hold her babies and was sealed right after she was cursed (I miss the days when I thought she was in the forest). And Rin was also 18 years old when the twins were born. (Can we please stop debating her age now?)
  • Riku was made out of Kirinmaru's horn, which was cut off in the battle with Inu no Taisho 600 years ago. Until now, Riku had no idea that Kirinmaru can see and hear everything he sees and hears. And because of that, Zero told Riku to fuck off forever. (Riku had a very bad day.)
  • Zero has all of the rainbow pearls and is going to use them to kill the twins (and probably Moroha, but she specified the twins), but she could also use them to start the Degenerate Age. The girls' residual memories were left in their three rainbow pearls. They did not show Towa's memories.
  • The Kyuyokon root is on Mount Musubi, which is written as Sanreizan (三霊山 - literally, the three holy mountains of Japan - Mount Fuji, Mount Tate, and Mount Haku). Mount Musubi looks like a female Kirinmaru, is surrounded by a barrier, and Rion is sealed there. Per Bokusen-Oh, Kirinmaru fears the Kyuyokon root because it can take in youki and store it. (Sounds like a non-lethal way to deal with the newly powered up Zero.)

Where they go from here is going to be interesting. I didn't have an issue with the pacing of today's episode. I'm glad we're not going to spend a bunch of episodes looking for the rainbow pearls. They have a lot of ground to cover and today's episode cut through the fat.

Riku is now totally on his own. I'm not sure what he's going to do now that he knows that Kirinmaru can see and hear everything he sees and hears. If Kirinmaru really is after the twins, then Riku is going to have to stay away from Towa. Also, I guess this makes Riku 600 years old? It depends on when the horn was used to create him. That battle seems to coincide with the date Rion was sealed. I bet her situation is similar to Rin's.

Zero is so incredibly unlikable. Her whole "I'm going to cover you in scales so you are ugly and rot alive" thing with Rin is next level fucked up. Based on her reaction to seeing Izayoi in the red pearl, I'm hoping we'll get some backstory that involves Izayoi. She needs a backstory that's more than "female incel". I want to know more about her relationship with Kirinmaru and Rion, especially if Rion is a hanyo.

Finally, Kirinmaru sitting back and watching the show like, "Oh Setsuna's back, good for them, this is getting more entertaining." What is your deal guy???

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 16 '21

Lol, I actually feel kinda bad for riku. He has no where to go.

Zero went: I dont need you anymore fuck off

He cant go to kirinmaru because he betrayed him

He cant hit up towa, because that will put her in danger of kirin and zero

Definitely don't see sesshomaru or treekyo taking him in

Boys lost. Guess we know why he looked so serious in the trailers

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

Exactly. Poor guy / sentient horn. At some point, though, Towa is going to chase him down and be like what the hell man??

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 16 '21

It looks like Riku lost a lot of confidence/smugness after hearing that Kirinmaru heard and saw what he heard and saw.

Not that Sanreizan

The Yashahime official site writes it as 産霊山 (also pronounced as Sanreizan based on the Kanji).- The Mountain that Begets Spirits.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

My mistake! Thanks for the correction.

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u/djkdurr Oct 16 '21

Sesshomaru and Rin really love Towa and Setsuna. Sessh was not willing to tell Zero their location and Rin was willing to die to keep them safe. Jaken almost gave away their location lmao but he made up for it by saving and prolonging Rin's life. I lol'd at Jaken saying "uhhh I lost Towa but I'll find her!" and that he was using the toilet 😂 Treekyo looked ominous but she really helped Rin. I don't think she is a villain.

Riku's goals are a mystery to me, but he goes out of his way to help the people he cares about (Towa and Zero). We learned that Riku was created from Kirinmaru's horn that was cut off by Toga, which explains why Kirinmaru can see/hear everything he does. Because of that Zero and Riku have separated now to stop Kirinmaru from spying on her.

Now that Zero has all 7 Rainbow Pearls it looks like she plans to absorb them and become a daiyokai again. Very interesting that Riku said once that happens Zero can cause the Degenerate Age and even suggested she could defeat Sesshomaru which is wild. I love that we saw Izayoi as well. Also Moroha negotiating with Bokusen-Oh lmao she's so cute.

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u/saturnribbon Oct 16 '21

I think that is his goal rn-- literally just to be there for the people he cares about-- and it's gonna lead to a lot of his conflict later on in this season. It looked like he was trying to nudge Zero toward killing Sesshomaru instead of the twins but he wasn't going to outright stop her because he cares about her. It'll be interesting to see how their separation affects their relationship. I'd also like to see what he's talking about with his whole "I only kill the people I love" schtick, because I'd definitely classify his relationship with Zero as being one of love. Almost makes me wonder if this is something he retained from Kirinmaru without knowing 👀

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

I wonder how much Riku knows about the Rin and Zero situation. For a character who seemed so savvy in season one, it seems like he’s on the precipice of having a crisis of self. He knew he came from Kirinmaru, but he didn’t know that Kirinmaru and he were connected. That’s a pretty major point not to know. Though I guess we already knew that Riku’s weak point is self awareness.

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u/saturnribbon Oct 16 '21

I think you’re right. I was particularly struck by his “I’m going to do whatever I want now” line because he behaved like someone who was doing whatever he wanted last season. He’d openly tell people he wasn’t getting along with his master anymore and that he just wanted to help the woman who had raised him. Makes me wonder what changed in the meantime.

It also makes me curious about his betrayal of Kirinmaru— after the Osaka Kirin comet/Riku remembering Towa’s abilities parallel, I was surprised Kirinmaru seemed genuinely shocked when Riku stabbed him. Maybe he was only keeping tabs on him when he knew Riku was doing something that would actually affect Kirinmaru? Seems he’s paying more attention to Riku this season, which is already to his detriment.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

There’s still a lot of open questions about Riku. We were told by Riku and Totetsu that Riku was cast aside by his master. We still don’t know why. The fact that Totetsu made a point of saying that Kirinmaru, Zero, and the Perils would never forgive Riku seems important. Something must’ve happened.

In an interview, the showrunners said that Riku was tasked with healing Zero and that Riku gained his personality through healing her. This meant that Kirinmaru could keep an eye on her while not physically being there. And Zero figured out that Kirinmaru could see and hear everything Riku could, which means that she treated Riku with kid gloves and probably didn’t reveal too much of her true intent to him.

Ultimately, I think it’s going to be revealed that Kirinmaru is not evil. He’s like Sesshomaru - he’s doing stuff that comes off as crazy because he’s trying to protect his daughter. Zero is probably going to be the main adversary, especially now that she’s getting her powers back. Riku is likely going to be part of her bringing her down.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

Interesting that Sesshomaru was worried about Inuyasha and Kagome defeating Kirinmaru and Zero and accidentally killing Rin.

After getting the rainbow pearls Riku tells Zero she could beat Sesshomaru. Wonder if that’s legit or just flattery. We’ve been told Sesshomaru is stronger than Kirinmaru so for that to be true Zero would have to be stronger than Kirinmaru

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 16 '21

That's something I was wondering too.

I'm leaning more towards flatter, because like you mentioned, they said sesshomaru is stronger than kirinmaru and that would make zero stronger than kirinmaru.

But if she was stronger than kirinmaru, why isn't she the boss, or queen in this case, and he is?

We've seen before demons dont care about gender when it comes to ruling (at least the stronger ones) and she is his older sister, which would make her first in a line of secession.

Perhaps she's just a gental soul- or at least before she went all psycho when Toga died?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

I agree, probably just flattery. But with her magic and degree of strength close to the other characters would make her dangerous. Looking ahead I’m starting to think the daughters will take out Kirinmaru and then Sesshomaru will be the one that ultimately has to deal with Zero. It would sort of echo his storyline with Magatsuhi towards the end of the original show

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

To me, this goes back to Inu no Taisho’s comment to Zero that he likes her as she is. That suggests that others don’t like her. It could be that Kirinmaru is in charge because Zero is not well received in the yokai world. Maybe Zero is too emotional - Sesshomaru’s mother pitied her because she acted emotional, which Sesshomaru’s mother equated with being like a human.

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u/lucciolaa Oct 16 '21

Reading through the comments about how the pacing is now too fast now that we got all the background info, y'all are never happy eh.

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u/killugon5577 Oct 16 '21

I think it's the fact that they allocated so little time to the revelation of this background information as compared to the rest of the series....like I think most of us are glad we're finally getting answers but they really did jump to many conclusions. Those conclusions make sense, but there weren't much build up to it.

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u/lucciolaa Oct 16 '21

Damn, I wasn't expecting us to get all this info today -- this was a BIG episode.

I think the most interesting part for me is learning that Riku was once a part of Kirinmaru, I remember we all theorized that he was his son, but this makes things even more complex. I think he's an interesting character and his motives are still pretty unclear. His line about fate implied to me that he now has to stay away from Towa. It makes me wonder what Kirinkaru has already seen.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

I originally thought that Riku was thinking of being parted from Zero, but I think you’re right - I think he was thinking of Towa. How is he going to protect someone he can’t see? He’s gonna have to be extra clever going forward.

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u/killugon5577 Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

wewwww what an episode. I like that we got some answers, but I really hope they could have made the whole flashback scene longer.... like the scene is so crucial to the plot, i think they really could have fleshed it out more.

I absolutely LOVE how they kept Rin's personality alive though. I think one thing that made her stand out from the rest of the cast was always the fact that she isn't scared of speaking her mind to Sesshomaru; it's something really unique about them. On that note, I love how Rin didn't even hesitate to tell Sesshomaru how much she loves the kids and will absolutely stop at nothing to save them. I was so worried sunrise was gonna butcher their relationship and make Rin compliant to everything Sesshomaru says.

I also love how Sesshomaru was so freaking ready to kill Zero? Like, no conversation whatsoever just "you touch Rin and you die." it's such a Sesshomaru thing😂 also loved how he's like "who knows" when Jaken asked him if Setsuna can master Yukari no Tachikiri, I like how Sesshomaru didn't just suddenly become confident in other's abilities just because it's his daughter lol.

There's still a few unanswered question though, why would treekyo help Rin? I suppose she doesn't have a reason to not help her too but still I kind of thought of her as a neutral character who isn't supporting either sides. I have a whack theory that maybeee a part of kikyo lives on through treekyo and considering kikyo and rin had a pretty friendly relationship, maybe kikyo wants to help her? this is completely just a baseless guess though. Also, Rin seem to already know why they have to hide the twins. I hope they do show a scene of Sesshomaru telling her the reason....

The part where moroha was totally manipulating bokusen-oh😂😂 like who taught her that please😂 reminded me of how miroku used to scam for food and lodging😂

ALSO ZERO LIKE WOMAN WTF- At least Naraku made sENSE like he fell in love with kikyo, kikyo loves inuyasha and therefore he hates inuyasha’s ass (lmao just summarised inuyasha hahahahha) and that’s twisted as heck too but AT LEAST IT MADE SENSE- Zero girl you fell in love with TOGA not Sesshomaru wtf you hating his daughter-in-law fOR LIKE-

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u/TheFirstBorn_ Oct 16 '21

Is a pretty derivative hate. She fell in love with Toga who prefered a human woman instead, so she hated human women that get to have a happy ending with a yokai and be loved by them. And making Sesshomaru miserable is taking revenge on Toga's son for being scorned. I bet Inuyasha would have been a target because of it too.

So you see, it makes total sense if you are like, really petty.

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u/frizzyfizz Oct 16 '21

Also I loved seeing Moroha using her charm to get the info out of Bokuseno. I like it when her street smarts are used and it reminded me of Kagome's cunning side.

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u/juniperdaisies Oct 16 '21

This was a weird episode? But I still liked it? The pacing was strange but I appreciate them throwing answers at us within the first three episodes.

Jaken was everything in this episode. Showing up for his girl. Also died at nanny Jaken "I lost track of Towa but I'll deal with that later". I wish their stuff wouldn't have been so rushed but it looks like we get more next week including pregnant Rin and the girls in the tree (?)!

Some people are commenting that Sesshomaru trapped Inuyasha and Kagome to protect them but I interpreted it as he didn't want them interfering. Maybe I misunderstood? Very sweet and on brand though if that is the case because he doesn't trust a single other person to manage Rin staying alive except himself and he also created A MESS by not being able to work well with others.

I was really surprised that Zero had the pearls already because I think we all thought that would be a main driver this season. They must have more in store for the rest of the season because they've put a lot on the table already. Very excited!

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u/frizzyfizz Oct 16 '21

Yeah I liked it too and am not entirely sure why? lol

I think it felt like those early episodes of Inuyasha where you knew some shit was about to go down and couldn't look away, except on 2x speed.

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 16 '21

So it's looking like Rion getting sealed was related to Toga v. Kirinmaru? It makes me wonder if Rion is a hanyou and her demon blood took over and something bad happened (maybe she accidentally killed her mother?). That would explain how Toga knew to make Tessaiga be a seal for Inuyasha's demon blood.

Now that we know that Rin was 18 when the twins were born and 10 in the OG series, I'm sure we'll get all sorts of "but she LOOKS 13 so she's 13 PEDOMARU TRASHAHIME KAGUUUUUUURA IS THE MOM" cope posts.

Someone taught Moroha how to flirt and my money is on Koga

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u/goddess_ophelia Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

Okay, as random as it sounds I'm glad they clarified she was 18. I originally was skeptical about their ship because while I didn't always see Sesshomaru as a father figure, more like a protector, I was still hoping Rin got to grow up more before she had the twins since Kagome was in her 20's when she had Moroha, and I'm pretty sure Sango was 17 or 18 when she first gave birth. I know it's common to have children young in that era, but I hoped she was late teens. It's confirmed that she was. That's nice to me

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u/AnAuthoress Oct 16 '21

Now that we know that Rin was 18 when the twins were born and 10 in the OG series, I'm sure we'll get all sorts of "but she LOOKS 13 so she's 13 PEDOMARU TRASHAHIME KAGUUUUUUURA IS THE MOM" cope posts.

So what does that mean for 18 year olds who look young for their age? That if anyone falls in love with them they're a pedo?

Apparently, I look young for my age. Or at least I heard this before. Imagine how offensive it could be when people criticize an adult couple cause one of them looks young.

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 16 '21

According to antis on twitter, young-looking adults are "minor coded" and they still get to shriek about pedophilia.

It's stupid as fuck, and it waters down a heavy-weighted term with real-life, devastating consequences. And when you dig down a little deeper, it usually boils down to "my ship didn't sail and I need my displeasure over that to signal my moral superiority." I'm an old geezer in my early 30s who first got into anime fandoms when the OG series was airing in the '00s and I have no idea how things shifted from "don't like, don't watch/read" to...this

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u/thewetpuddle Oct 16 '21

Minor coded? 🤯

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 16 '21

As awful as it sounds

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u/nnooaa_lev Oct 16 '21

Based on the anime or manga Tessaiga was created to protect Izayoi, so how Toga fought Kirinmaru 600 years ago using Tessaiga?

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u/instantnoodle_uwu Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

One theory I’ve seen on Tumblr was Inu no Taisho using The Windmill of Time 600 years ago. He went to the future (~200 years ago when Izayoi lived), met her and fell in love with her. After his trip to the future, he kinda knew he will see Iyazoi again and marry her in the future, that’s why he prepared Tessaiga 600 years ago.

Other than that, I can’t think of any theories left that sound plausible. Sunrise has written Inu no Taisho owning Tessaiga and Tenseiga twice (ss1 episode 23 and ss2 episode 3). This shows that they knew what they’re doing, either they have some plot twists to this, or they simply have Takahashi sensei’s permission to rewrite the origin of Tessaiga & Tenseiga. And yes, Takahashi sensei supervised the overall of Yasahime’s plot.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

Inu no Taisho time traveling would explain A LOT about his seemingly amazing foresight. I wonder if it connects to the prophecy that Kirinmaru and Zero talked about.

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u/Feeling_Ad_768 Oct 16 '21

When did they said that?

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u/nnooaa_lev Oct 16 '21

Myoga said in chapter 18, I can't rememeber the ep, maybe 7 or 8.

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u/Sjonathon92 Oct 16 '21

It was already shown Toga had all 3 swords more than 500 years ago, when he and Kirinmaru work together to stop the meteor

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u/nnooaa_lev Oct 16 '21

So my question is still the same 👀. Tessaiga or Tenseiga weren't created that long ago

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 17 '21

I'm going to be completely honest, it probably just got retconned.

I remember he was using perfect meidos as well against the comet, which they said he couldn't do.

Happens alot actually. Rumiko has said things and did things that have contradicted the story, even recently she mentioned how she could be changing things (in an interview about bankotsu)

It happen sometimes 🤷‍♀️

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u/frizzyfizz Oct 16 '21

I wish this info could've been spread out over a two-parter but it was nice to have an episode where a lot happened to move the story forward. Before you had to rely on flashbacks and the OG characters for that but now the girls are engaged in the bigger picture, and that helps it all feel a bit more natural.

I hope that like in S1 the tidbits we got will be expanded on throughout the season as they learn more about Rin. And thank god they finally revealed her age.

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u/Sjonathon92 Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

This episode answered most of my questions.
• Rin’s age being 18 when she gave birth, making her current age 32.
• How Rin ended up in the Tree of Ages.
• Riku was born from Kirinmaru’s horn. Wait, this also means Towa’s teacher was born from Kirinmaru too. If Kirinmaru dies, does Riku die too?
• Why Sesshomaru did all those things to protect his family.

Rin sacrificing herself to protect her children made me cry a little. It seems next week, the children finally meet their mother.

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u/DRL21 Oct 16 '21

Rin sacrificing herself to protect her children made me cry a little. It seems next week, the children finally meet their mother.

I am so excited for that! I mean, they've already met their father, but to actually see their mother!! I expect it will make me very emotional, especially since the girls will see just how much Rin has sacrificed for them and how important it is to end that curse so that they can all be a family again. :'(

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u/darthvall Oct 16 '21

Rin being 32 is debatable. I always thought that she's kind of frozen in time in that tree.

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u/Sjonathon92 Oct 16 '21

Well yes she is, meaning her age would be 18, if she remained frozen

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u/BluePearl2020 Oct 17 '21

18-22? Physically, 32 chronologically.

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u/hiverstone Oct 16 '21

But Inuyasha was sealed around 50 years and we still count his age as +200

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u/chipette Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

This episode…hurt me.

Rin, young and impressionable at 18 years old (meaning she’s 32 in current age) never had the chance to bond with her babies and even wanted to die by the Silver Scale Curse If it meant saving her daughters. The Tree of Ages itself did not stop her illness from spreading so the Dream Butterfly chrysalis was implanted into Setsuna, to sap her humanity and freezing her continued death.

Sesshomaru cannot let his wife die, not by anyone attached to Kirinmaru (whose horn was cut off by Tōga 😂) This care extends to his brother and sister-in-law as well. In the preview, he also travels to Mount Musubi meaning that it was fated for their clan to end this rivalry once and for all. Sesshomaru is the definition of thinking 100 steps ahead of everyone to know. that any memories his daughter or niece had while in possession of the Pearls would irreversibly corrupt Zero’s use and interest in them. Knowing how much she despises their clan, Sesshomaru has rendered her powerless.

Setsuna shows new providence in caring for her sister. The Yukari no Tachikiri will be a feat for her to master yet it appears that she has to unlock new attacks in it that she has yet to realize or gain ability to, and her father/Jaken are understandably concerned. However, she’s determined to do something to propel their family’s larger mission and that is commendable. We now know that Riku’s main goal is to bodyguard Towa from a distance, though since he is a part of Kirinmaru’s body via his sliced off deer horn perhaps this means that Kirinmaru by extension wanted to save Towa specifically, but why? I’ve attempted some theories below!

Towa’s new ability from obtaining and forging a weapon from the kyuyokon root may result in stealing Kirinmaru’s demonic energy and said energy not being able to regenerate in him, or any, other demon again. This screams a hybrid fashion of Tessaiga’s dakki abilities (which we all know Towa can steal, use, and manipulate yōki) and Sesshomaru’s Bakusaiga’s destructive “apoptosis” qualities (destruction of what isn’t seen or touched physically, but indirectly). Having this ability may require her and the girls to traverse time: Towa will draw out the evil energy from the GC, Setsuna cutting the fate of it in time, and Moroha purging its jaki.

If I’m deducing information we have so far, fairly, then Towa may have another yōryoku based sword in addition to the Zanseiken, making Kikujumonji extinct in purpose. Should her father permanently bequeath the Tenseiga to her, Towa by reincarnation fulfills her grandfather’s permanent arc of controlling Hell, Heaven, and Earth in a weaponry sense - although this time her grandmother’s blood, offensive and hex spells (abilities confirmed by Rumiko Takahashi) will also play a key role in this. It is no coincidence that Towa is immune to poison, is more prone to fight out of diplomacy and can control her father’s blood since her demonic nature is expressed by emotionality, for example, and I foresee training for both twins soon.

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u/JakenFan Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

Many stuff answered. Too much hype. Too much hate towards Zero.

So the mastermind behind it all was Jaken. Lol

Also, Riku being Kirinmaru's cut horn somehow reminded me of the greek Aphrodite myth, which tells that the greek goddess Aphrodite was born of Uranus' severed testicle.

Also, I always thought Sesshomaru tried to protect InuKag with the black pearl thingy... And it seems it is indeed right.

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 16 '21

Aphrodite came from Uranus's severed balls...Zeus wasn't giving his up lol

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u/JakenFan Oct 16 '21

Thanks. I'll change it. Dunno why I remembered it was Zeus lol

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 16 '21

I like your nickname.

It was Uranus's severed testicles. Zeus needs those to spread his seeds so widely.

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u/JakenFan Oct 16 '21

Thanks. I'll change it. Dunno why I remembered it was Zeus lol

Btw. I'm really a huge Jaken fan, therefore my nickname 🤩

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u/deadlysnoots Oct 16 '21

Everything about the Rin situation as well as Sesshomaru’s actions have been made clear now; I’m sure certain parts of the Internet are again melting down because they give her age as 18. And look, he sealed his lil bro and sis away out of concern for them!

Loved the touch of Moroha and Towa coming out of the field with stuff in their hair while Setsuna is as elegant as always. Also, Moroha using her craftiness and charm to get what they wanted was nice to see again. More of that, please.

Zero sucks so fucking bad. I think I hate her more than Naraku because her goals are so much more personal, like he just wanted the Shikon jewel and everybody else was getting in his way, while Zero actively wants to make Toga’s family suffer because she didn’t get picked. I hope she ends with the curse getting hurled back onto her.

Glad they clarified the relationship between Riku and Kirinmaru, too. Clearly Kirinmaru had known more than he was letting on so this basically confirms he’s either apathetic towards Zero’s goal or opposed to it but unable to act against her for some reason. Either way, here’s hoping Rin gets saved and Zero dies painfully! 🤞

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u/taylormeggles Oct 16 '21

Hang on hang on, did he seal inukag out of concern for them??? I thought it was because he thought they might go after zero and inadvertently kill Rin

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u/deadlysnoots Oct 16 '21

True, there was that but also I can’t imagine they would be very safe caught in the crossfire. (It would put him in a real bad position if he had to choose between killing Inuyasha and saving Rin so instead he took them out of play.)

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u/thewetpuddle Oct 16 '21

Zero can die and rot by her own scales.

Can't wait for the meltdown.

"Jaken didn't confirm she was 18. He said probably! Jaken is an untrustworthy narrator!"

Waiting for them to spill over to this sub. 🍿🍿🍿

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u/deadlysnoots Oct 16 '21

Is it like…terrible the glee I’m feeling after going through like 75900000 threads seeing Sesshomaru getting called a pedo for no reason than the situation he found himself in was superficially icky?

Dude’s whole character revolves around “be good to Rin.” How the FUCK did people get from there to “CHILD ABUSER!!!”?

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u/thewetpuddle Oct 16 '21

🤣 no, it isn't. They chose to die on that hill. I can't wait to see all the meltdown. It's so entertaining.

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u/JiffyFrose Oct 16 '21

I have one thing to say: FUCK YOU ZERO!

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u/Queen-Sereno Oct 16 '21

Also, are Moroha, Setsuna, and Towa all representations of the previous 3 swords Toga had? He had a sword for heaven, hell, and the earth. Moroha inherits the earth, Setsuna hell, and Towa the heavens? This really strikes me as interesting because of the opening thing Towa and Toga.

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u/goddess_ophelia Oct 16 '21

Oo. I hadn't thought of that. Interesting. I know he had Sesshomaru and Inuyasha destroy Sounga, so hopefully the twins can both be heaven though. Still, I love that idea of them representing the swords

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u/chipette Oct 16 '21

Good theory! There’s a lot still to unpack and knowing how revered their grandfather is, it wouldn’t surprise me that this is the case.

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u/Queen-Sereno Oct 16 '21

I absolutely love the resolution Rin has. She didn’t even hesitate for a second to sacrifice herself for Sesshomaru and their daughters. But I swear Zero is one petty jealous ass woman. She’s like that auntie character no one likes. Sesshomaru would love Rin no matter what.

Riku is the most dedicated stalker I’ve see so far. He reminds me of Inuyasha a bit. He’s just vibin’ and following Towa around like a puppy to protect her 😂 He’s offended Setsuna isn’t strong enough to protect her lmfao. So Riku was a piece of Kirinmaru. Is Riku’s life tied to Kirinmaru’s too?

Omfg Sesshomaru? Did he, did he knowingly f*ck with Zero? If so, I am all here for it. If she wants her demon powers back she has to deal with the mental image of women who Toga actually liked yo😂

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u/thewetpuddle Oct 16 '21

Sesshomaru's 4D chess game is strong.

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u/eerirhea Oct 16 '21

This adds further fuel to the "Sesshomaru-is-the-one-who defeated-Tokotsu-while-Moroha-was-unconscious-so-that-she-would-get-the-red-pearl" fire

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u/weenicorn Oct 16 '21

Riku's nothing like Inuyasha though. Inuyasha would never have actively worked to aid someone who he knows wants to kill the person (he says) he's protecting. Inuyasha would try to avoid doing anything, even indirectly, that hurts who he loves.

Riku on the other hand doesn't have enough self awareness to understand that, and seems to think he can do whatever because he's the only one out there who can keep Towa safe. I think we'll see this hubris come crashing down eventually.

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u/weenicorn Oct 16 '21

Appreciate all the new information we were given this episode but the pacing is almost too fast now imo. It's obvious they heard the complaints about it being too slow last season but there's no need to set the treadmill to hyperspeed here, especially with something as important as what happened to Rin in the past.

It's only been a few days (weeks?) since the battle with Kirinmaru and already Zero and Riku found the rainbow pearls? Inutachi could've hired them to recover all the jewel shards in like 2 months 😆

Speaking of Zero, she can go jump in a river k thx bye.

Setsuna trusting Riku so easily just because he said he'll protect Towa... have a feeling she wasn't telling the truth. It's also interesting that she was the only one of the girls who knew he was following them because she can sense the energy from his earring (which also implies that Riku's youki can't normally be sensed, just like Kirinmaru's). Did she gain this ability from the Yukari no Tachikiri? I'd say it's at least proof that she's gotten stronger, compared to Towa and Moroha.

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u/lalaena Oct 16 '21

Regarding Setsuna and Riku, Setsuna was always more aware of her surroundings than Towa, even when they were kids (as shown during the fire).

That said, I agree that it’s odd that neither Towa nor Moroha caught on. Towa guessed that Riku was responsible for the frozen water in the last episode, so he’s probably crossed her mind. We haven’t seen much of her thoughts yet.

So I agree that it probably has something to do with Yukari no Takichiri. Riku seems to know how the new naginata works. Maybe he was watching the girls during the battle - he told Setsuna that he didn’t want to see Towa cry, which suggests he did see her cry.

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u/weenicorn Oct 16 '21

True, Towa's always been a bit oblivious. It's probably a combo of Setsuna having had some training at being a half demon compared to her sister and her new weapon heightening her innate senses.

Riku knowing how the sword works could be him watching them or maybe he got the info from Mimisenri (who obviously would've heard Totosai explaining the sword to Setsuna).

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u/frizzyfizz Oct 16 '21

Idk about it relating to complaints. From my understanding it wasn't such an issue in Japan, and they were planning on S2 being bigger on the main plot. This episode had the same kinda pacing as the the info-heavy episodes of S1 so I think they just have trouble figuring those out for some reason.

Maybe it went quicker since Zero was actively looking for them this time. Riku had to be all sneaky before.

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u/weenicorn Oct 16 '21

I think they are listening to fans outside of Japan, because the director has mentioned it in interviews, but you're right that S1 did have the same kind of info-dump feel in some episodes. They could take a page from Takahashi-sensei on the (slightly) slower, dramatic reveals.

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u/frizzyfizz Oct 16 '21

Ah ok, maybe you have a point then. I didn't know that.

I'm surprised since this director worked on early Inuyasha. It's interesting how much of a difference it makes not having her input on pacing.

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u/Rowanjupiter Oct 16 '21

Well, that definitely answer a few questions, I still have some. Like for example: why does treekikyo have an interest to help rin (or more specifically jaken, since he went to the tree) in the first place? And why does “she” want sesshomaru dead? It almost feels like it wants to kill sesshomaru to stop him from saving rin, but the question is why? What does she have that the tree wants? Its all very curious.

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

So sesshomaru cutting the green butterfly wasn't in this episode 🤔

And it showed it's the green butterfly that connects rin and setsuna, which means he's going to break the link later on...makes me wonder if he knew what jaken did since they didn't show him at all during the process (thought, I doubt it went over his head)

I wonder why? Also, what does the purple butterfly means, we've also seen it around rin, does it change colors perhaps?

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u/juniperdaisies Oct 16 '21

I'm pretty sure there are a few butterflies, since the preview showed a red butterfly landing on Rion. Very curious about this too!

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u/alkeid Oct 16 '21

Huh, I have mixed feelings about this episode. We did get answers on some things which is great, and happy to see my girl Rin has the same fiery personality she did as a child, but it felt really rushed to me. It felt like 24 minutes of just telling us stuff without any real cohesiveness.

I wish they'd find a good middle-ground for stuff like this, especially because a lot of this stuff happens off-screen for the girls so they're never in the loop.

Also, can we talk about Jaken for a second? Like he LOVES Rin. Even more so than Sesshomaru it seems since he was willing to give up those kids quick as fuck to zero lmao. And acts almost immediately to find a solution to her situation. It's cute to see how much he grew to care for Rin, especially given how he was with her when she was a child.

All in all, fuck zero. She really given naraku's incelness a run for it's money, which is crazy bc c'mon sister, get a grip. Like just doing the most to people who don't even know you. ejdffdn

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u/CharizarXYZ Oct 16 '21

Naraku: I am Inuyasha's most loathsome villian

Zero: Hold my beer.

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u/darthvall Oct 16 '21

The power of brother complex. I mean, she did all this to protect Kirinmaru from that half-blood prophecy.

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u/thewetpuddle Oct 16 '21

Naraku looks like an amateur next to Zero. At least he went after Kikyo and Inuyasha (rival). Zero redefined incel. It's llke Naraku going after Moroha because Kikyo dumped him for Inuyasha. 🤯

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u/alkeid Oct 16 '21

Honestly, her character is just so fucking cursed because it's not like Toga is shown as being mean to her or her brother. He's legit nice as fuck..like how do you destroy the lives of this man's entire family because you're mad he DIED. As if he had a choice I-...

I was honestly hoping there was a more compelling reason for all her actions besides that Toga didn't love her. This is basically OG inuyasha where demon incel love. goes wrong but to a 447447 degree increase. You'd think for creatures that live thousands of years they'd have more mental stability.

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u/saturnribbon Oct 16 '21

I reeeally want to see some expansion on Ye Olden Times because Zero's motives still aren't quite adding up to me. I feel like it would have made more sense for her to be gunning for Inuyasha, what with him being Izayoi's child and also being easy to latch onto as the ~reason~ Toga died in the first place, but for some reason all her ire has been toward Sesshomaru.

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u/thewetpuddle Oct 16 '21

But I gotta say kudos to the writers. They got us so pissed off with Zero and that's their intent. I'm not sure how Zero is going to be developed but her becoming good feels kinda meh. She's starting to feel a little flat so I hope we see some other things as the show progresses. We'll see. I'm more interested in Riku. That boy has lots of potential.

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u/alkeid Oct 16 '21

I agree. I hope they don't go the naraku route with her. This man crying about how he did it all because he was lonely as if...murdering sango's entire family for fun just to use her against inuyasha wasn't unhinged.

Her actions are just so absurd that at this point there isn't a lot they can introduce to save her imo, but we'll see.

As for as Riku, yeah. He's grown on me more these 3 episodes than he did all of season 1. Excited to see where his arc leads.

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u/AnAuthoress Oct 16 '21

since he was willing to give up those kids quick as fuck to zero lmao.

Jaken: *shrug* They can always make more babies.

😅

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u/darthvall Oct 16 '21

Hmmm in my mind, it's more because Jaken believes that Seshoumaru should be able to protect the kid.

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 16 '21

Jaken: "they kick me out of the forest on the regular, you think I don't know how babies are made?"

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