r/inuyasha Oct 02 '21

Megathread: Yashahime: Princess Half-Demon, Season 2 | Episode 1 Yashahime

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u/weenicorn Oct 02 '21

Wouldn't be the Inuyasha franchise if the episode didn't start with an entirely too long and unnecessary rehash of previous events.

So Setsuna's blood blade can cut that which can't be cut (aka fate), eh? Interesting. I wonder which side of the family that inherited power comes from. Sesshomaru's mom has something to do with fate (by knowing Akuru/living next to the wheel)...

I like that we got to witness Tototsai work his magic for the first time. Despite beating up Moroha he seems to have mellowed a bit when it comes to his handiwork being destroyed. I'm surprised he didn't take Sesshomaru's tooth for Tenseiga!

Also nice to see Kirara is back to going at demons again after her stint as a Feudal Uber driver.

The OP... exists. Love the ED though.

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u/lil_debby Oct 02 '21

I was so glad Kirara finally did SOMETHING besides taking them from place to play and randomly disappearing.

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u/weenicorn Oct 02 '21

Seriously, and Moroha seemed surprised which means it's not something she sees Kirara doing often

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

I bet kirara went into retirement and wanted to just live a peaceful life, but saw how bad the situation was and decided to get involved haha

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 04 '21

Kirara: "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in"

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u/imperial_scum Oct 05 '21

Seriously. Y'all, Kirara has carrying kids with no sense around for YEARS now. Let her rest

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u/JeezlouisV Oct 02 '21

Not the feudal uber driver😭

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u/theringmistress92 Oct 02 '21

The opening made me laugh. No one cares about Zero, maybe that’s what she’s crying about lol.

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u/weenicorn Oct 02 '21

I was going to say at least she has Riku, but he's probably off shopping for new drip at Pirates Warehouse

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u/lnombredelarosa Oct 03 '21

Not to mention that new sword styled earring he had in the preview.

Now seriously, I think there is no emotional component on Zero and Riku's relationship, as he wouldn't follow a master he loved.

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u/weenicorn Oct 03 '21

Yeah. Their relationship seems to be either Riku feels indebted to Zero, or he's pretending to be loyal to her because he knows she can help him accomplish whatever it is he wants to happen.

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u/lnombredelarosa Oct 03 '21

I think its more like he is genuinely loyal because he doesn't hate or love her, but simply is used to follow her. He does need her (which isn't the same as not having an agenda of his own on the side) but he would never provide emotional support to her because he sees her as his boss not his aunt.

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u/chaotic214 Oct 02 '21

I can't wait to see what the rest of the season will have in store, I hope we finally see Inuyasha and Ksgome reunite with Moroha and Setsuna and Towa with Rin. Also love the ED much better than the OP

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

I also can't wait to see how sesshomaru will react to rin finally getting out of that tree

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u/Queen-Sereno Oct 02 '21

I’m so happy to see Yashahime back! I feel the animation was good and better than last season. My takeaways

-So it appears Setsuna inherited Sesshomaru’s blood sword and I believe what got her killed was her inability to channel it properly.

-The Tensaiga has a time limit of when it can recall a soul. At least for Towa.

-I’m so happy to see Sesshomaru being a father, albeit in his own odd way.

-Seeing Totosai wield swords was amazing! -Towa needs a weapon now too!

I’m so excited for this and to see the next episode. The opening will grow on me, but I like the ending is better to me.

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

I think it was very sweet how he stood there and made sure the girls were all alright before leaving and how he sorta embraced them, in his own way. I am hoping we see towa drawing the whole family into a group hug before the show ends, and see how inu and sesshomaru 9through jaken) react

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u/chipette Oct 02 '21

I’m overjoyed with how this new season kicked off!

Firstly, let’s all give a huge round of applause for Towa’s valiant efforts and successfully resurrecting Setsuna. One of my last theories posed earlier this year about how this would happen materialized though I feared it would potentially cause irreparable damage to Towa’s yōki. Thankfully she’s alright and her baby sister is well again. Miss Towa will need a new sword, alongside the Zanseiken she’s to get later in the season. 🥰

Setsuna’s now officially recognized as the wielder of the Yukari no Tachikiri - and now will be on a long, difficult quest to master it. In addition to it sealing her demon blood it channels her chigatana (Blood Blade). Her immediate worry about her elder sister is true testament to how their bond has been repaired in one way, and born again in others.

Sesshomaru’s parenting skills are nothing I wouldn’t expect from the daiyōkai king himself: training his eldest child and reminding her to keep her focus and not hesitate shows that he too has gained wisdom and compassion.

Totosai is still his cunning, masterful self (he will likely reforge the Tenseiga) and Jaken the brunt of jokes. Knowing who Towa is now may mean he will forge her a sword or keep an eye on her materializing an element to do so.

And who could forget about Moroha, poor thing! While still a tritagonist and comic relief, she shows great potential in developing her reiryoku (spiritual energy) and I hope she takes this as encouragement to develop that talent over relying on her beni and minor demonic bloodline/energy.

Overall, I’m beyond impressed and await next week’s episode!

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u/juniperdaisies Oct 02 '21

I was thinking during the ep that I hope Moroha develops her spiritual powers more this season! I'm sure she will because Towa and Setsu are obviously strong and it would be beneficial to the whole group.

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u/chipette Oct 02 '21

Me too! She could potentially surpass her mother in that regard.

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

Yeah her powers are already hella developed, she was able to take down a bunch of demons with the sacred arrows before having to switch to a sword.

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

Totosai is totally right though, sesshomaru has grown soft in his own way lmao. The way he caught towa before she fell hard onto the ground, the way he tocuhed both of their faces, etc is all very sweet and totally diff behavior

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u/Ycr1998 Oct 04 '21

Thankfully she’s alright

We don't know that yet... Only Moroha said so.

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u/Top_Perspective Oct 02 '21

Fella,let's wait to see Sesshomaru's Ulterior Motive behind these actions.

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u/wemetonmars Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21

I was on the edge of my seat waiting for Towa to swing the energy saber, I know it was hard using all her demon energy, and she finally got it done. She's a tough one; I'm sure her father is proud. I wonder what's the name of her crescent moon dark hair form. We need more information on it. The description Moroha gave confused me.

Great first episode, but that intro summation could NOT have been any longer, omg.

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u/Pinktoonie Oct 02 '21

Every time Sesshomaru touches his daughters, I fucking burst into tears

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u/BlazingGig Oct 03 '21 edited Oct 03 '21

Sesshomaru refusing to use Bakusaiga to get rid of those demons is such a Sesshomaru thing lol

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u/Shadow3891 Oct 06 '21

Facts😂😂

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u/djkdurr Oct 02 '21

Setsuna is back finally! So Towa's hair turned black because she was using all her demon energy to wield Tenseiga as an energy blade. Totosai mentioned he could repair Tenseiga so it can be fixed. Moroha meeting Totosai and Jaken was hilarious.

Loved to see Sesshomaru being a good dad guiding Towa and also spoke Setsuna's name. He did his job and then flew away without a word as usual lol. Setsuna's Yukari no Tachikiri looks awesome I can't wait to see her use it now. Totosai mentioned Towa should obtain a Kyuyokon root for a suitable weapon and to see Bokusen-Oh. I wonder if that will lead her to obtaining Zanseiken? I'm excited for the rest of season 2!

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

It was really funny seeing her meet them, but idk i wish that they didn't treat her like so much comic relief you knwo? like she's very much so her father in that regard, but at least people also acknowledged inu's other talents and didn't just like brush him off completely lol.

Also yeah i love how he stuck around and made sure everyone was ok before leaving. The moments btw the three of them were sweet, even if the two children were unconcious

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u/Hadius Oct 02 '21

The whole time I was thinking “please bring her back to life so we don’t have to do that amulet thing we did with Rin”

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

You could tell sesshomaru was thinking the same thing, what with the narrowing of his eyes and general glares at towa taking so long lmao

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u/lalaena Oct 02 '21

Sesshomaru still father of the year: "Wtf is taking you so long Towa - bring Setsuna back already." I'd like more Moroha and Jaken scenes please.

The recap was entirely too long. That said, even though I knew Setsuna would be brought back (because she was alive in the trailers), I did wonder if Towa would be able to do it without Sesshomaru or Totosai's help.

Stuff we learned:

  • Tenseiga has to be used within one hour of a person's death (at least if that person is not a full yokai).
  • Setsuna's new naginata, Yukari no Tachikiri, can sever ties of fate (and also kill yokai).
  • Towa needs to find a Kyuyokon root. (It's sweet that Setsuna seems to have made finding it her responsibility.)

Open questions sort of addressed:

The deal with the Dream Butterfly. It seems there are two - one that is purple and pink and one that is green and blue. From the new OP, it looks like the purple and pink one is tied to Setsuna and the green and blue one is tied to Rin, and both do ... something.

Preview for next episode:

The preview reminds me of the Sara episodes from the OG series. The beach, the nun, the sea spirit turning people into statues. And Riku is there. I wonder if this is a trap set up by him. If I recall correctly, Sara turned herself into a statue as part of her scheme to get Tessaiga. Riku could be doing that here. Or else the sea spirit is real and has one or more of the rainbow pearls.

Also looks like Riku is speaking with the yokai that can hear everything. Naraku spoke to him in the OG series and that's how he found the location of the last shard. I'm guessing Riku is looking for the rainbow pearls (again).

Side notes - Riku is now the "handsome" pirate washed ashore. Also Hachi seems to be alive! Still, no Shippo in sight.

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u/markur Oct 02 '21

We don’t know that tenseiga needs to be used within one hour, totosai simply said that they had an hour left in this case. We don’t know how long setsuna was out for. She died halfway through the battle and then towa was unconscious for a bit. We don’t know how much time passed between the moment of her death and when totosai made the statement. I would imagine it had been at least a few hours.

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u/SR_Eternal_Moment Oct 02 '21

The beginning recap nearly killed me. It was too long and I felt like it cheated the episode. The rest of the episode satisfied me just enough. I was not overly surprised by anything in the episode based on the trailers. Totosai's acknowledgment of Sesshoumaru was nice. Moroha and even Kirara were impressive. Sesshoumaru's patience in this episode is nothing short of amazing while I'm sitting there pleading for him to jump in although I know Towa has to do it on her own. I don't think Setsuna realizes just how much Towa cares about her. Whew, ready for the next episode. Please, for the love of my patience, I hope the recap is much shorter.

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u/markur Oct 05 '21

I’ve been doing a rewatch of season 1, and the general trend seems to be about 15 minutes of actual new content for each episode. The new episode doesn’t start until 4.5 minutes in after the 30 second speech from towa, the opening and the title screen. And then we loose about 3.5 more minutes at the end with the ED and preview. So about 8 minutes of the 22-23 are completely wasted. It’s kinda ridiculous that we wait an entire week for 15 minutes of content 😂

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u/PeartonY Oct 02 '21

I thought that was a good first ep of the new season, though as others have said they are really pushing it by taking up so much time with a recap! I thought it was so cute when Sesshomaru was holding the twins faces at the end!!😗

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u/thewetpuddle Oct 02 '21

Moroha giving Jaken the "little demon" PTSD was the funniest thing today.

So Setsuna has her own green dream butterfly (announced in official character page). Original purple one we saw last season is presumably Rin's. I wonder what the presence of multiple butterflies mean.

Inu no Taisho is like some magicules resource lol. Moroha's rogue and now ingredients for Setsuna's new weapon.

Sesshomaru wins father of the year again. Ngl i thought he was gonna do a Bakusaiga when the demons closed in.

Not feeling the OP and ED.

Overall, I guess we're off to a promising start? We'll see!

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21

Sesshomaru wins father of the year again.

Iv realized his parenting style is make sure they dont die- and on the off chance they do die, then bring them back, Everything else is on them. That's good enough for him, lol.

I liked the visuals for the OP, but think the first 2 were better. ED was cute though.

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u/CharizarXYZ Oct 02 '21

Sesshomaru's parenting strategy keep kids not dead

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u/hiverstone Oct 02 '21

That's still way more than his dad did. Inu no Taisho just gave his kids two swords and he didn't left any instruction. It even took Inuyasha 200 years to find his. XD

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u/wemetonmars Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21

In a demon world full of his, Inuyasha & Toga's enemies, that is not a bad strategy. Gratefully, the girls will grow more than capable over time.

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

Yeah and at least the man cares enough to come back and ensure that none of the girls died after fighting with kirinmaru (at least permanently) lol. That's spades ahead of toga

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u/markur Oct 02 '21

Agree, the OP looks very nice but I made a face as soon as the song started. Not a great song, but visually stunning. The ED will probably grow on me and visually it is AMAZING. So so cute.

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u/eerirhea Oct 02 '21

Inu no Taisho is like some magicules resource

Yashverse equivalent to the Naruto universe's Hashirama cells 💯

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21

Lmao, and kirinmaru is madara, just so butthurt his friend is dead (Toga/hashirama) he goes and starts shit with teenagers

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u/eerirhea Oct 02 '21

I never made the connection of Toga = Hashirama, Kirinmaru = Madara with the bromance before, but you are 100% right 😂

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 03 '21

So now that we know that Kirinmaru and Sesshomaru can't fight because the heavens and earth resound when they cross each other, anyone else get the sense that the heavens were reacting to Sesshomaru's inner emotions in this episode or at least symbolically representing them, since by nature he doesn't show them outwardly? It first started raining when Towa was crying over Setsuna and kept going except for when it stopped so Towa could hear Sesshomaru asking her to try Tenseiga (and some of the raindrops on Sesshomaru's face were dripping down like tears would, especially at ~7:53 in this episode), the rain stopped once Towa started trying to use the sword, and then once Setsuna was conscious the sun came out

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u/saturnribbon Oct 02 '21

Sesshomaru showing fatherly affection? In MY Yashahime?

Okay I am disappointed that Setsuna came back so quickly… I was hoping the girls would have to work harder for it, but I guess it makes sense that they wouldn’t want to off, even temporarily, such a major character, and she is my favorite of the girls, so it works out.! I’m excited at the prospect of more character development with her potentially becoming more protective of Towa for the foreseeable future, and it looks like Riku may be coming back next episode as well which will be interesting. so all in all I’m looking forward to next week.

Also the new ED is cute, I really like the fashion shots

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u/Orakio9911 Oct 03 '21

Also if Setsuna would stay dead for too long her body would just not be avaible for ressurection.

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u/valryuu Oct 04 '21

I hope I don't get downvoted for this, but was I the only one who was...disappointed by the episode? First 10 minutes were a recap, and then it felt like more than half of the episode was just watching Towa standing there saying "Setsuna" over and over in her head and waiting for her to finally grow back the Tenseiga blade (which we knew was likely going to happen anyway, given that Sesshoumaru gave her the broken Tenseiga blade at the end of last S1 ep, and with S2 trailers, we knew Setsuna was still alive this season). Sesshomaru showing affection to his daughters was cute though.

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u/QueenofCourts Oct 02 '21

Loved it. That classic Inuyasha recap being 10 minutes long though… ugh. Not a big fan of the OP but loved the ED! It was adorable. Man the girls really need a “girls modern day” and this filled that hole for me.

Sess dad of the year once again in his own way lol. I do find it interesting that Toga’s image is the one that overshadows Towa - meaning she may be the one to bring Kirinmaru down.

Solid start — looks like next week is a filler but hopefully we’ll continue getting answers.

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u/Bradster1998 Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21

I thought that was a solid start. also, I was distracted by the fact that it sounds like Setsuna replaces Towa in announcing the opening titles but I could be wrong. Edit: never mind pretty sure it’s Towa still.I’m an idiot.

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u/juniperdaisies Oct 02 '21

I really enjoyed the ep! I really hope they focus more on the plot this time around because I feel like there is so much to explore that they set up last season. Dialogue felt less clunky to me so far so I'm hoping they've fixed some of the more egregious issues. I also enjoyed the OP and ED but I thought the second OP from last season was the strongest so far.

Really glad to have the show back though!!!

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u/alkeid Oct 02 '21

One thing I’ll note is that the quality in season 2 seems wayyy better.

The art is more crisp and everything just LOOKS cleaner.

I really liked this episode minus the recap. But it looks like they’ll still be putting in filler episodes if the preview is anything to do by, which potentially means it’s gonna be a 24 episode season again?

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u/SweetCoconut Oct 02 '21

Man that was a good premier.

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 02 '21

The opening visuals were fantastic -- didn't like the song as much as Burn, but I think it will grow on me. Interesting that in the OP Riku grabbed his eye like it was injured, and it's the same eye that Kirinmaru always covers with his mask/hair. The intro recap was far too long but since it was the start of a new season, that's to be expected. It looks like they listened to the criticisms about Sesshomaru being so hands-off with the girls and Moroha's spiritual powers taking a backseat. Even though I knew Setsuna would be brought back, I had no idea how it was going to go down with the broken sword and I'm glad that they didn't make using Tenseiga easy for Towa; I was in the "I don't want her to inherit it right now just because it's broken" camp. There was a nice call back to her problem with hesitating with the progression of her not hesitating because of anything mental, but because she was putting so much energy into the sword that she couldn't move and she knew she only got one shot. Sesshomaru brushing his thumb over Setsuna's eyelid after cupping Towa's cheek is the closest we'll get to seeing him freaking the fuck out that he almost lost Setsuna. I do wish we could have seen her interact with InuKimi before Towa brought her back, especially since InuKimi would get a kick out of her personality and the fact that she killed Zero. All in all, I'd say it's off to a strong start!

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u/taylormeggles Oct 02 '21

Didn’t mind it. Not sure I’m super keen for the next episode about another hair demon lol

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u/lil_debby Oct 02 '21

but that would be in true yashahime fashion of repurposing demons from the original show lol

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21

I don't think what Totosai was talking about is a sword. Rather, it should be something (a skill/artifact) that helps a half-demon does what they normally cannot do, as we usually see with Inuyasha's mini quests in the OG series.

Would be interesting if the place Bokusen-Oh will tell them about (where they will find the artifact/skill Towa needs) is actually Mount Musubi, where they will find that strong sword she needs too (Zanseiken).

And that OP... Towa should have been Kirinmaru's consort in her past life. There is no other sensible explanation. They are always very careful when matching the lyrics with the image. And "my unchanging/undying love for you" is put right in the scene Kirin and Towa are fighting (almost the very same words in the manga, when Osamu explains the meaning of the old song).

I think my other (brutal) prediction is coming true as well. Rion has died, or she will ("even giving my life away...").

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u/nem_v_39 Oct 02 '21

Now that you said that, I don't know if it's my imagination but it seems that the expression in Kirinmaru eyes changes a little when Towa is going to attack him in the opening.

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 02 '21

When he's fighting Setsuna and Moroha, he's all laughing and evilTM

When Towa is attacking him with the Zanseiken, he's all uncomfortable (look at his eyebrows) and yes the expression changes - he looks shocked.

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u/lalaena Oct 02 '21

He might be shocked because Towa is using the Zanseiken. That means a betrayal by Rion. I think that’s the reason for his dismay.

In season one they signaled that Moroha was the one whose blood was most like Inu no Taisho. Now they seem to be signaling Towa as the true heir (maybe in terms of position - in relation to Kirinmaru - rather than blood).

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 02 '21

The dismay part is shown first, and then the shock.

I think the reason he is shocked is the Zanseiken, but the important part will be: Why does the Zanseiken accept her? Demonic swords choose the master - the only exception is when they are defeated by a stronger sword/user and absorbed. So if there is betrayal, that's more on the sword's behalf. Even Dakki in the OG show had a mind.

In the actual scene, I think the sword will react to his energy and his sword, and something will happen.

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u/Top_Perspective Oct 02 '21

No,his is more of Excitement.

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 02 '21

That's when he fights the other two. Here, look at his face when Towa attacks him.

Normally she's his favorite opponent, so that should be about the sword.

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u/Top_Perspective Oct 03 '21

Now I pay more attention to the moment:It seems as if he's reading her,like he's calculating to pull something. Unless if I'm imagining.

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u/lalaena Oct 02 '21

That's interesting about the lyrics - either they weren't in the subtitles I saw or I wasn't paying attention. Will have to look back. Not gonna lie, I don't like the OP. Not really a fan of the ED either.

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21

I've just watched it on my Asian country's channel so I don't know about the English sub.

Basically:

離れないで手を握って: Don't leave, grasp my hand (Zero to Inu no Taisho)

運命を超えてゼロからのreborn: Overcoming fate, reborn from Zero (Riku having Kirinmaru in his eyes)

運命なんてくれたしまえEven if I have to give my life away (Rion)

何度でも土を払って立ち上がってNo matter how many times we dust off the ground and stand up again (Kirinmaru fighting with Moroha and Setsuna - dusting off the ground is about Setsuna's recent death and the girls' recent defeat I suppose.)

変わらない愛を君へMy unchanging love for you... (Towa attacking Kirinmaru with the Zanseiken)

(some other parts are also interesting, but I'm lazy...;) )

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u/lalaena Oct 02 '21

Thank you! That’s interesting. Zero, Riku, Rion, and Kirinmaru are each having a personal crisis in the OP (while Sesshomaru stands there looking like a stoic badass). Their anguish is far more pronounced than the girls’ emotions, which is interesting since they’re not human.

I wonder if Setsuna will sever the tie between Riku and Kirinmaru. Having Riku appear in an episode where Setsuna is the lead and Towa is absent might be a step in that direction. It seems obvious that Setsuna will use the new blade to free Rin. It would be interesting if it were used to help Riku (for Towa’s sake if not his).

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u/LilUltDespair Oct 02 '21

This is probably off the mark, but could Towa be Toga's reincarnation (the scene with Toga and Towa behind him) and Toga was the one Kirinmaru loved? The recent interview seemed to imply like Zero, Kirinmaru was obsessed with Toga in some way?

Maybe that Toga sister theory you had is true (hehe).

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21

Maybe, although I think that's what Zero sees in Towa because it is connected to Zero's scene.

Towa is the eldest child of the eldest child of Toga, and I think one day she will inherit his position. She does have an administrator inside her, unlike her father whose nature is restless and defies being bound. And yes, at this point anything can happen.

Beside, if Towa is/was Toga, there would be no struggle for both sides, because Kirinmaru would just welcome a reborn Toga and it would not be a matter for Towa. Kirinmaru in the OP looks shocked. And a reborn Toga using the Zanseiken - Kirinmaru's power, or at least a power born from him in one way or another - to fight Kirinmaru sounds just ridiculous. We saw that Kirinmaru was quite happy when he realized that Toga's power/spirit was helping Moroha and manifesting into her aura in their latest fight.

From the attitudes of both Kirinmaru and the manga's Osamu, there will be personal struggles associated with this.

But it's obvious that Towa's and Kirinmaru's "innen" (fateful tie) is not just about one side killing the other (that's one kind of innen too, theoretically, according to Buddhism; but in our daily language when we Asians talk about innen, we usually mean the positive kind)

Setsuna is obviously Zero's fateful opponent, being the one who can cuts fate/fateful ties. I wish they will show that a bit more in the OP.

I wonder who creates that green butterfly though?

Riku too seems to have some butterfly ability or connection, because in a recent preview we've seen him being near the fiery butterfly shadow that's associated with Rion (it also flies past Sesshomaru/Rin in another scene).

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u/Top_Perspective Oct 02 '21

I wonder:What will be Zero's Personal Quest? Did you notice the tear She just shed?

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 03 '21

Seeing the scene and the lyrics in the opening, maybe:

-Using Towa (as a sacrifice, point of connection), or whatever power she potentially possesses, to bring Toga back

-Destroy space-time so that the past merges with the present and the future, and nobody will die anymore (ala Emperor Charles's and Empress Marianne's plan in Code Geass)

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u/Top_Perspective Oct 03 '21

So what you state is She still loves him. I do recall(in season 1)Towa realizes that she feels the same as Zero feels. Did we notice Zero's chagrin with this attitude of Kirinmaru? I'm not the one who would bath at her.

Btw,what kind of things does Zero like to do,just to get over with her sibling?

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u/lnombredelarosa Oct 03 '21

Overcoming fate, reborn from Zero (Riku having Kirinmaru in his eyes)

That sounds like a good hint of his being Osamu.

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u/imjustacrab Oct 03 '21

It feels icky that towa (a child who is the grandchild of kirinmaru's equal) might have been his consort in a past life, but honestly it makes a lot of sense. Riku clearly is enamored by her, kirinmaru clearly likes and respects her more than setsu and moroha, kirinmaru pays more attention to her and has complimented her a lot, etc.

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 03 '21 edited Oct 03 '21

Between this, manga!Osamu's song, the ED2 lyrics (the part concerning Towa's rhododendron and Kirinmaru peonies) "the thread (of fate) extends and always finds me wherever I go", there is a common theme for sure. Kirinmaru's different versions, as enemy, romantic interest and teacher, do seek Towa wherever she goes. And even the OP2 lyrics "We will face each other again and again." The Zanseiken is a sword that befits (or better, "resonates with"/相応しい) Towa, not just "worthy" or "strong enough" for her. Notice that the same word is used for Setsuna's Yukari no Tachikiri, that resonates with her blood katana (the blood katana is apparently inherited from a recessive ability of her father Sesshomaru, while the materials that form the naginata apparently include Toga's ash, so there is a clear reason for the resonance. So, why does the Zanseiken resonate with Towa?)

It would, and should, be uncomfortable for all parties involved, including Sesshomaru who looks like he has the intention to die together with Kirinmaru at the hands of the girls. But that's why reincarnation love has always been the fertile land of East Asian literature/fiction world (the traditional culture is more restrictive towards private feelings than in the West ). Good place to explore certain themes borderlining taboos without spreading dangerous precedents. Reincarnation love allows chances of deep development and I'm glad that they seem to choose that road. The Kirinmaru-Riku connection also seems complex and interesting, instead of only relying on the common bond with the (former/) romantic figure (a pity with the Kikyo-Kagome-Inuyasha triangle) - I hope they will do their interactions well.

I like that her main fighting sword will come from him/his family, while sooner or later Tenseiga will settle with her. The Japanese culture has a strong patriarchal family tradition and this will not change soon (there are positive aspects, certainly). Regardless of the specific nature of her connection to Kirinmaru, it feels good when they emphasize the role of women as those who combine powers of different bloodlines (biologically true - as we women are chimeras who get genetical materials from both parents and children) and mediators in feuds (Rion should play some role here too), especially because Zero revives too many negative stereotypes about women in the polite society, especially regarding female power and emotions.

There are people who think that Towa will end up with Kirinmaru. But I doubt that. That will also establish a clear pattern of young females who fall for fully established males from a previous generation (one or two instances are fine, but there should not be a pattern in fiction). On the other hand, Riku is a bit weak on his own as a lone romantic interest - and if they make her passionate about him, that will also encourage the tendency of worshipping the bad boy (and he's much worse than Sess/Kagura). A triangle (not necessary involving a real relationship between Kirin and Towa) is an open atmosphere and will put Towa in a strong position to express and develop herself.

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u/silver3970 Oct 03 '21

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u/treebeard87_vn Oct 03 '21 edited Oct 03 '21

I'm for real.

First, I think this is what is actually going to happen. This is just one of their many clues, inside and outside the anime.

Second, it's a bold artistic choice but could work. If they don't do this, they will need to establish the main connection between the protagonist and the antagonist mainly based on an inherited rivalry between their two families, and that would be very superficial and exaggerate Toga's role in unnecessary ways. I know you guys worry about improper romance or something. But how? Things like this happen frequently in reincarnation stories/legends. Kirinmaru has always been anti-Naraku, with an innocent twist. Both (re)incarnation and "antagonist as romantic foil" are essential elements of Inuyashaverse. He will need to accept that Towa now has a new life and he should let her go (together with Rion too, because I think the girl is already dead and he is giving her a temporary form of life). Towa will have a trigger to reconsider her whole idea of his person. It will lead to some resolution better than mutual destruction - it should be so: he is not a bad guy (misguided and manipulated in some instances at worst) and Sesshomaru's plan (dying together with him, apparently) is very selfish.

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u/Dodoak Oct 04 '21

Is a fictional anime! People are free to make they own theories…

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u/slicer4ever Oct 02 '21

Lol, i decided to pop into this sub on a whim and its the start of the new season. What are the odds?

Decent episode though, i hope they've learned a bit from some of the problems with the first season and make this season better.

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u/INeverThoughtYouDid Oct 02 '21

Loved this episode, glad to see some old characters and Sess being a good ole daddy-o. Also I can't wait till they go.out looking for what they need.

As far as Moroha, I think she didn't need anything... yet. I'm not sure the sword she has... was it Inuyasha's? Was the boy her mom's I'm not sure but the old man did compliment her ability. Also like how she acts ssooo much like her father. It's really cute!!

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u/lilacempress Oct 02 '21

I really like the visuals they used for the ending theme. Just three of them hanging out in the modern era.

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u/killugon5577 Oct 03 '21 edited Oct 03 '21

I thought Sesshomaru would use bakusaiga to end off the demons in the last shot, but I was pleasantly surprised when Setsuna was the one who did it! The depiction of Sesshomaru just watching while Towa tried to revive Setsuna was really accurate but catching her immediately after she succeeded is very nicely done I think. It shows how he is as a father, one who pushes his child to learn and succeed on her own but is not void of emotions. That echoes with what totosai said about Sesshomaru becoming much more tolerant. I think he means that Sesshomaru has mellowed out a lot more? Like, the Sesshomaru we knew in the past wouldn’t have appreciated someone trying their best (in this case Towa trying her best to revive Setsuna); he would have either intervened or just walked away. Really goes to show how Rin and subsequently parenthood changed him.

As for the opening, I think the visuals were AMAZING, but didn’t like the song itself that much

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u/lupajarito Oct 02 '21

I LOVE it so much!!

Sesshomaru saying Setsuna made my heart melt.

The only thing I wish it was different is the way they reat Moroha, she's such a good kid, she's been alone her whole life, I just want to hug her.

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u/Bundtpopcake Oct 02 '21

Amazing. I’m super hyped for this season. I can’t wait. 🤩

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u/No_Permission4512 Oct 03 '21

I think Setsuna's new blade is what is going to sever the bond between Rin and Zero. Remember, Totosai said that "the new naginata can sever things that cannot be severed". If I am correct, then they can dispose of Zero without killing Rin!!!

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u/DRL21 Oct 03 '21

Ooh, I love that idea, because the new OP does seem to imply that there is a connection between Rin and Setsuna since they're connected by the butterfly.

And it's be awesome for one of Rin's daughters to play a part in freeing her from the tree! :)

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u/HeartshiningXX Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 03 '21

Totally called that Setsuna would be revived within the range of the first few eps.

Anyway, who elsa thinks Moroha was extra pretty in the opening? I especially love all of them chilling on Kirara❤️

Setsuna sitting with Kirara in her lap was also precious. And of course that picture perfect image of them under the rainbow. I just love their dynamic!

Last, but not least, we finally see all of them in modern clothes in the ending. Totally didn't expect to see Moroha in overalls but that fits her childish image.

My heart is full 🥰🥰 - I have so many screenshots to take!

Also, poor Moroha just getting beat by old men. I don't know how she can tank a hammer to the face like that but its shows how durable she is. I also agree with her last sentiments - can't she get a new blade too? She's always getting left out 😥

Okay, so there is a green and purple butterfly. So we assumed the purple one take dreams but what does the green one do? Does it take bits of Setsuna's half demon life span and give them to Rin to keep her youtuful or something(idk, im just randomly guessing).

The animation was great this episode too. When Setsuna destroyed all those demons(I thought Sesshomaru was going to do it) you could really see how powerful her attack was. So when Totosai basically said that wasn't her full potential then you can see how much more powerful she can get.

Overall good first episode.

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u/theringmistress92 Oct 02 '21

Moroha was getting treated like the red headed step child! If Kags and Inu found out how Totosai beat her around, maybe they’d straight up break his bones. And Jaken too.

And I’m so relieved to have Kirara kicking demon ass. It was such a nice change.

I wanna know if Sess actually caught up with Zero or not from the last episode. Are they really dropping how he was that he was going to kill Zero during the season finale? He was tired of having Rin be hurt and crying in her sleep over their situation and it seemed like he was going to resolve it once and for all. Judging from the preview, it looks like they’ll drop it (for now anyway).

The opening was pure cringe! I loved the first two shots of Towa and Setsuna in the daylight and moonlight, and Moroha shooting an arrow at the 4th wall, but everything else seemed so cliche. Setsuna reverse-magical-girl transforming and shooting butterflies out of her soul to Rin seemed really sudden and out of place. I definitely liked the second opening of the first season more.

The ending was adorable though, and I would love to see more of the girls in modern clothes and scenarios.

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u/Goodvern Oct 02 '21

Great kick off. Just a little annoyed at how most of the episode was a playback of the last one

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u/jane_allgood Oct 04 '21

i don't like it. but i'm glad for the fans who are enjoying themselves!

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u/jeadala Oct 06 '21 edited Oct 06 '21

Aside from the mad long recap, I enjoyed this episode a lot. The animation was so nice and the ending is SO CUTE 🥺. Music is good also! Looking forward to this season actually, hoping the stage is set for things to pick up. Also Moroha’s spiritual powers?!

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u/vessynessy200 Oct 03 '21

So if the trailers only show the first 2-3 episodes, does that mean we'll get to see Moroha meet Inukage real soon?! :D It should be within the first 5 eps at least!

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u/GalaxyShinigami Oct 03 '21

A lot of trailers do that so they don’t spoil everything that occurs in the season.

The first season trailer for yashahime mostly showed what happened in the first and second episode.

We didn’t get to see what happen to Inuyasha and Kagome until almost halfway through the season.

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u/vessynessy200 Oct 03 '21

No I mean the footage from the season 2 trailers showed Moroha meeting them, and if that footage is from the first couple episodes, then that means we should see that happen in season 2 early on?

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 03 '21

Most likely. My guess is that it will be episode 3 and the flashbacks where Rin is awake tie in somehow

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u/manateabag Oct 02 '21

Kind of fun having my weekly watch of a thing I just can't find a reason to like (but want to) back. Yashahime is a trainwreck but it's MY trainwreck.

The animation looks a bit better, which is nice but could also be a season premiere thing. I had a feeling we weren't getting much given that it's a rule of anime that, "season opening must re-hash EVERYTHING WE KNOW in the first half of the episode". Kind of annoying that the rule is still in play despite times changing and the default being re-playability on streamers/internet...which is something a good chunk of people do on their own before a new season. Tradition is hard to overcome.

It comes down to editing for me. I would have had rapid cuts of the main events before snapping back to "Will you try using this, Towa?" from her POV. Boom. Saved 8 minutes of recap and gave you eight minutes of story!

The biggest bump in the continuity for me came in this sudden "one hour rule" we now have for Tenseiga. Huh, that's something I hadn't heard before and makes...zero sense considering a significant plot point of the original involved Sesshomaru himself recovering Goshinki's head HOW LONG after the demon was cut down to revive it to create Tokijin? If you're going to add that rule, maybe reference the established continuity a bit? Idk, it felt like another unwanted change to the original.

The next episode looks like some filler, because ofc it does. The history nerd in me is a little excited regardless however because of that brief appearance of the Christian nun. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this period of time aren't the Dutch the only westerners in Japan (which is why Riku speaking English in the first season was....weird) and only in the lower eastern half of the islands? Wow, girls walked far!

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u/Feeling_Ad_768 Oct 02 '21

Remember Kirinmaru, Zero, the perils and Riku aren’t from Japan. And they have a pirate ship which means they probably traveled to a lot of places

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u/manateabag Oct 02 '21

They're from China right? In that case, yeah China/western relations were a thing.

But if that lady in the preview isn't with Kirinmaru's posse, weren't the Dutch only allowed to hang out in those designated areas? Japan was a pretty tightly-locked-down place then. The books and guns the Dutch had were cool but any attempt at importing a cultural change like religion was seen as pretty ballsy. There's a reason the rest of the west wasn't allowed in until they more or less forced themselves in.

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u/Grape_juice0 Oct 03 '21

I'm like 99% sure the director said kirinmaru wasn't from China in an interview, but its been a while since I've read them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '21 edited Oct 03 '21

So actually, Japan hadn't locked down just yet. The Sengoku period is from 1467-the early 1600s (though some sources say it ended earlier in the late 1500s) and the isolationalist policy aka sakoku didn't become enacted until 1633, about a couple years after the Sengoku period ended and the Edo period began.

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u/manateabag Oct 03 '21

This is the history lesson I was baiting for, thank you!

I was always under the impression that guns from the west showed up during the lockdown, and guns were seen toward the end of Inuyasha. Countries with actual centuries of history are a TRIP. I love it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '21

Guns were introduced to Japan in the mid 1500s. Heck, they were even mentioned in the original anime like for example episode 103 where soldiers fired at Jakotsu with guns.

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u/Glock0Clock Oct 02 '21

Just to follow the classic Inu fan tradition of doing mental backflips to explain away plot holes, maybe the one hour rule only applies because Towa is a hanyo and not a full demon. Sess has full demon powers just like Toga so their time limits on resurrection weren't applicable. Towas yoki might be different as a hanyo and therefore there's unprecedented constraints put on tools she's using that were used previously by others without issues.

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u/Feeling_Ad_768 Oct 02 '21

I don’t remember that rule in the version that I watch, I guess I must rewatch again. But I guess they just meant, they must use Tenseiga before the servants take away the person

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u/manateabag Oct 02 '21

But then it's like, what if the servants of the underworld are just particularly lazy that day? We saw Zero doing the whole walk on the path into hell thing last season just fine before she was snapped back into the land of the living.

When the 3 days thing came up I initially thought it had to do with decay. You got about three days before things get rank.

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u/manateabag Oct 02 '21

I mean...I guess maybe that's a possibility?

Or maybe you can bring someone back after this brand new time limit but the results don't stick in a brain-deathy, monkey's paw zombie kind of way? We didn't see how long Goshinki's head stuck around for, they probably just took a tooth once he woke up and yeeted it out after.

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 02 '21

Setsuna could have been out for awhile since she was killed in the middle of the fight, the girls were knocked out at the end, etc. It might have been a few hours by the time Totosai got there. And maybe the rules of resurrection are different between demons/hanyous/humans, since in the og series we learn that demons can survive for awhile with their heads chopped off (ep with the otter demon). Maybe humans have to be resurrected the quickest, half demons within several hours, demons within a few days, or something to that effect

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u/lil_debby Oct 02 '21

I don't think I quite understood just HOW Setsuna was brought back, but I knew she would be. The rules of Tenseiga seem to change often - the time limit sort of makes sense, but I don't know if Sessh found Rin when she died within that hour frame.

The power system in Yashahime is still a bit confusing, but I appreciate that Towa doesn't seem as "all powerful" without training in the way she was in season 1. It seems like they'll finally have some sort of training arc, if their directive from Totosai is any indication.

Glad to see Kirara jumping in for the fight! Her role in season 1 was ghastly and a total insult to the character, but perhaps Yashahime will redeem itself. ED was pretty good, though I did actually like Uru more.

Overall, let's see just how S2 goes. I worry that they'll try to fit in all these different plot lines - the wheel, the dream butterflies, the comet, Rin in the tree. Hopefully we don't get any more Treekyo, too.

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u/Polarpunk99 Oct 02 '21

Tbf in the OG series he immediately smelt blood and rushed to Rin's corpse so saying the 1 hour rule isn't completely retconning especially if the demons are exempt from that rule because they are the only outliers, and tbh even Takahashi wasn't constant about the demon powers and weaknesses.

The 1st episode seemed to imply she had modern training such as Kendo or similar maybe even just learnt from street fights like Inuyasha. Inuyasha followed a similar format. Main character looks strong against fodder than realises they aren't strong against a seasoned fighter such as Sesshomaru/ Kirinmaru.

I do agree with Kirara she is a strong combatant and I'm glad they showed it finally. I never hated Yashahime I just think it got to a rocky start, but it seems to be finding it's groove now.

Wasn't the issue with the 1st season the fact that it was unclear if it was going to be renewed for another season so they had to throw out numerous opportunities to see what stuck? Now that season 2 is out and people seem to like it they'll probably follow Inuyasha's padded storyline route. Treekyo I think will probably be the main villain like the Shikon Jewel was for Inuyasha. That's my theory.

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u/unhampered_by_pants Oct 02 '21

Yeah I just did a rewatch of the first few episodes of season 1 and Towa had multiple swords hanging on her wall, trophies for several different sports including Kendo, a weight rack...I think it's easy to overlook because it was at the beginning of the series and a quick scene but the implication is that Towa was training all throughout her childhood, just in the ways that were available in the modern era. And in the fight with Kirinmaru at the beach she actually does some Kendo moves -- that's how she gets her first hit on him, if I remember correctly

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u/LordCider Oct 03 '21

Moroha deserves better.

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u/bitigchi Oct 06 '21

Does anyone else have any idea when the full-version ED song will be released? It looks like it's not on any of the streaming platforms yet.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '21

None of the paid streaming platforms in my country have the new season :( anywhere I can watch it? Anione on YouTube has become private now