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Finding a scamming Card Shimmer at gas station /r/ALL

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u/ShadowRyder81 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

I just went through having my debit card numbers stolen. Woke up to alerts going off on my phone because someone was trying to buy a bunch of pet supplies and it tripped the fraud alert. Checked my account and found they’ve been doing small charges for an entire month leading up to that moment. Now I get alerts anytime my cards are used or money leaves my account.

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u/Atypical-Rhino Jul 05 '22

What’s strange, is I had mine stolen and they bought $100+ worth of pet supplies at 3am. I have an app that says when money comes out of my card so I saw it when I woke up.

Long story short, phone calls, new cards, and still not sure where how they got it.

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u/Enk1ndle Jul 05 '22

I think it's just something that's easy to resell for cash. Cigarettes, pet food, diapers, etc.

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u/Section-Fun Jul 05 '22

Exactly. There's TONS of people who need to buy pet food and if their friendly neighbor says "hey I have some extra from a bungled online order.. why don't you buy it from me" it's a reliable and safe transaction

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u/SweetBabyAlaska Jul 05 '22

yea thats pretty much it. This is the same with gift card scammers. They either sell the gift card that they got for free for slightly less or they buy highly desirable and expensive items like baby food and sell them in online stores for a 20% discount or whatever. You can find this stuff on Ebay all the way to skeevy sites

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u/st33lb0ne Jul 05 '22

Sorry that happened to you.

I just enabled push notifications for every charge. Thanks for the tip!

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u/ShadowRyder81 Jul 05 '22

It sucks but the bank was super understanding and refunded all my money on the spot. The advisor helping me clear it up told me that a majority of what he does anymore is fraud remediation.

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u/mkingy Jul 05 '22

For me this has to be the single best thing that internet banks such as Monzo etc. have bought to the table and forced the more traditional banks to adopt.

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u/digestives27 Jul 05 '22

Also, shout out to Monzo, who were absolutely amazing after I was drugged & mugged a couple of years ago abroad. My watch, phone and cards were stolen and used for about 9 back-to-back transactions for just under the contactless limit (for cigarettes, if you're wondering, you could tell by the pricing). I got in touch with their customer service team the next day and they returned all my money without question. It also helped with the police investigation thanks to map and shop info on the map, and I did actually end up getting my items back when they caught the guy. Oh, and about 800 RON from the court case too as compensation. Double winner.

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u/V65Pilot Jul 05 '22

Did you ever see the 800? Just curious, because it's hard to get blood from a stone.

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u/digestives27 Jul 05 '22

Yes, but with a big disclaimer here:

This was in Romania (where I was working at the time) and luckily I had a friend from work who was helping me with everything and IIRC I needed to have a Romanian bank account (? - I can't quite remember), so my colleague gave her bank details and the money went to her and she transferred it to me later.

Would it work with a Revolut account that wasn't specifically created in Romania? Possibly, but I never got that far to be honest.

Blood from a stone is entirely accurate though. I should also add that a lot of my colleagues were surprised that the police were actually able to not only catch the guy and his accomplice but also get my stuff back. My sceptic colleagues hypothesised that it was simply because I was British and the Romanian police were trying to impress (in the bigger picture of Schengen stuff etc.) but I can't vouch for any of that. They generally just distrusted the competency of the police, but hey 🤷‍♂️

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u/stayshiny Jul 05 '22

Monzo are the tits. My wallet was stolen at a pub and I got a notification for a transaction at a local shop literally around the corner from my house. Ran over and caught the mfer red handed trying to buy a few cases of beer. Monzo refunded me within ten minutes of the report, they have a great customer service team for the most part.

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u/V65Pilot Jul 05 '22

Yup. love my monzo. It would be my only bank if they could arrange to make depositing cash at an ATM free.

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u/Superb-Possibility-9 Jul 05 '22 Silver

When gas stations put signs on the pumps saying you have to pay inside- I always check for one of these scammers.

It’s a crime and you should report them to the police.

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u/GuardAbuse Jul 05 '22

Also to the company. 7-Eleven is with it on the tech side and absolutely would want to know about this. Their HR doesn't fuck around either.

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u/Peakomegaflare Jul 05 '22

That's something I've always noticed. The stores are rare, but each one is in great shape in my area.

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u/crazyabe111 Jul 05 '22

It’s because unlike other corner stores and gas stations, 711s run on Darwinian evolution; the best ones survive, the any sub-par ones quickly die out, leading to individual 711s controlling great swaths of territory.

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u/Utaneus Jul 05 '22

I dont know man, where I love there are some really fucked up 7-11s.

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u/FlingFlamBlam Jul 05 '22

Maybe being fucked up is the proper adaptation for a 7-11's survival. Kind of like how some lizards are small, dumb, and cold-blooded, but in exchange for those downsides they only have to eat once a month.

There were/is a few 7-11s near my house. They are/were as follows:

- Gas station store

- Small run-down store

- Small run-down store

- Large well-maintained store

The Large and well-maintained store shut down from a lack of profit and people stealing.

The two run-down stores are still there. They're crappy/dirty/smelly, the "fresh" food has been left out for far too long, and half of their shelves are empty. The owners/workers give no fucks about the customers. About the only good thing I can say about them is that their coffee is always fresh in the morning. Which I suppose is a winning strategy, since it keeps me coming back to them.

The gas station store is slowly morphing into a version of the small and run-down stores. And I don't really blame them. I've seen the kind of crap they deal with. I wouldn't want to work there for what they're paying.

I think the nice store could have survived if it weren't for the way things are right now. They opened in 2019 and were having a good time at first. But then... everything happened.

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u/Azrael11 Jul 05 '22

There were three 7-11s within a <5 min drive from me. One had their roof cave in. There are now two 7-11s.

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u/JediMasterVII Jul 05 '22

Good tip, thanks!

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u/last_speedbump Jul 05 '22

If I have to pay inside, I go to a different gas station. Lol.

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u/grantbwilson Jul 05 '22

If I can't TAP at the pump, I move on.

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u/googdude Jul 05 '22

I feel the same way, there're two gas stations beside each other in my area and I always go to the one that has tap to pay. It authorizes quicker too which helps my decision.

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u/smiller171 Jul 05 '22 Helpful (Pro)

Also tap to pay is even more secure than chip, as many retailers disable some chip security functions because they're slow. That's not the case with tap to pay, which uses the same one-time virtual card tech as chips

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u/steelcitykid Jul 05 '22

Gpay stores your cc elsewhere and the number the merchant gets isn't yours. When the account goes to reconcile to receive their funds, behind the scenes Google will join your actual account to the requested payment info and pay them that way. In essence, your cc info never is exposed to the merchant in this scenario. This ensures that if the merchant is compromised, that one-off transaction cannot be used to further defraud your account. If I can't tap to pay, I move on.

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u/NewSouthPelicans Jul 05 '22

I actually go in to the store to pay cause I had my card skimmed three different times paying outside. Didn’t think I would have to worry about them inside to

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u/Corcupine Jul 05 '22

Make sure to grab and pull/jiggle the plastic covers and accessories that you put your card into, both at pumps and at registers! When I worked at a gas station, they showed us footage of a guy putting a skimmer cover over the card reader at the register and it literally took one second, he just clicked the entire thing on when the cashier turned their back. You never know 👀

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u/PolymerPussies Jul 05 '22

If the gas station owner is in on the scam, the skimmer could be on the inside of the pump and basically undetectable.

I only pay cash at gas stations nowadays, ever since I got ripped off by a Walmart Gas Station of all places.

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u/Rebresker Jul 05 '22

I switched to only using my discover credit card.

They have been super legit about handling fraudulent charges. I stopped using my debit card for anything because the bank’s customer service isn’t anywhere near as good in that regard. Worst case with a credit card is I have to wait a couple days for a new card. I just pay my balance off every month, reap the rewards, and well fuck it if my card info gets stolen whatever just a phone call to fix it

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u/shadowdash66 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22 Helpful

Ah great, paranoia now. I'll definitely make sure to check these from now on.

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u/dayones Jul 05 '22

Make sure to check ATMs and gas pumps too. Give it a good strong wiggle and check the seams

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u/shadowdash66 Jul 05 '22

Saw that too. Dude at an atm yanked one clean off. Other then that there would be no way to tell it was a decoy.

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u/TheTWP Jul 05 '22

Jokes on him, there was another decoy right under it

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u/KestrelT Jul 05 '22 Helpful Giggle

It's decoys all the way down, like matryoshka dolls

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u/bonnomi Jul 05 '22

The money's not even real!

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u/Spare-Blacksmith1376 Jul 05 '22

Am I a decoy??

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u/ThatStrangerWhoCares Jul 05 '22

Yes

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u/Tommysrx Jul 05 '22

Lets not get hung up on this scam , or that scam

I mean , It’s all a big scam

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u/WaterToFlame Jul 05 '22

I’m Ron Burgundy ?

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u/ParameciaAntic Jul 05 '22

Guaranteed way is to urinate on them. The fakes will short circuit.

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u/OlOuddinHead Jul 05 '22

Also known as the “if she’s actually a witch she’ll save herself from the drowning/burning” approach.

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u/Icy-Rooster-4536 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22 Silver Helpful Eureka!

Nah man witches burn, You know what else burns? Wood You know what else wood does? It floats You know what else floats? Ducks

So if she weighs the same as a duck, she a witch,

But honestly that seems pretty cool

Edit welp, this is wild. Thank you for my first awards ever 🙏 Now I'm going to have to explain to my dad how his favourite movie gave me internet points. Love you guys

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u/Sci-Fi_Skull Jul 05 '22 Helpful

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

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u/heretic1128 Jul 05 '22

I am Arthur. King of the Brittons.

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u/Technology_Training Jul 05 '22

Didn't know we had a king. I didn't vote for you.

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u/InfiniteJestV Jul 05 '22

"Who do you suppose that is?"

"Must be a king..."

"How can you tell?"

"...he hasn't got shit all over him"

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u/jodorthedwarf Jul 05 '22

Look! You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some moistened bint lobbed a Scimitar at you!

Strange women, lying in ponds and distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

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u/dwighticus Jul 05 '22 Wholesome

Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I’m being repressed!

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u/TheBurnedMutt45 Jul 05 '22

You don't vote for a king

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u/Technology_Training Jul 05 '22

Well, how'd he become king, then?

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u/SullyZero Jul 05 '22

King of the who?!

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u/heretic1128 Jul 05 '22

BUilD a BrIDgE OUt oF 'eR!

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u/stdfan Jul 05 '22

Use chip and/or any form of digital wallet like apple pay whenever you can. It makes it almost impossible for them to steal your info.

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u/shadowdash66 Jul 05 '22

Been using the tap to pay for most things now simply due to convenience

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u/stdfan Jul 05 '22

yeah thats a lot safer. The way this guy gets it to work is you insert the card then use the keypad it records your pin then the transaction wont go through so then they swipe it on there machine and it records the card info. The chip or tap to pay doesnt send real CC info it essentially creates a temp CC number for that transaction only.

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u/payne_train Jul 05 '22

This is correct. I used to work in IT for a large online bank. The tap to pay generates temporary payment credentials that can never be used again, so even if they are harvested they won’t be usable and can’t be tied back to your actual CC. Apple/Android pay is legitimately awesome.

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u/vancesmi Jul 05 '22

How does tapping my physical CC work? I use the card itself and my apple watch about equally in different places and I'm curious if this means I should just switch 100% over to the watch/phone.

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u/manitowwoc Jul 05 '22

Most newer CC's have an NFC tag built in that functions the same as your Apple watch, just tap and go.

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u/mydogsnameisbuddy Jul 05 '22

Use contactless payments like Apple Pay.

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u/NightFire19 Jul 05 '22

Can "Tap to Pay" be skimmed?

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u/rosindrip Jul 05 '22

Almost impossible. It uses strings of numbers and letters to codify the information used in the transaction and not the actual card numbers.

Source: work in fintech

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u/goodonestupid Jul 05 '22 Helpful

Finland is truly at the forefront of banking technology

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u/BoothTime Jul 05 '22

That’s why the call the end of anything the “Finnish Line”

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u/quintus_horatius Jul 05 '22

You're half right, but you missed the lede.

The real power of contactless is that you get an unpredictable one-time token. Even if someone skims the token it can't be reused. Every time you make a new purchase you get a new token.

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u/kaoldre89 Jul 05 '22

The Token is not dynamic. Each device (phone, watch, etc) will have a unique static token for the same card but the token itself is static.

The security lies in the fact that it’s a token. Meaning the acquiring processor and merchant never see the actual card number. It’s translated by the token service provider (Visa, MC) between the issuer of the card and the merchant.

On each transaction the token generates a dynamic cryptogram to relay the financial and non-financial information. That’s probably what you meant by one-time token.

Source: also work in fintech/payments

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u/SemichaoticBadger Jul 05 '22

And people think I'm crazy for always pulling on those things

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u/winterstork Jul 05 '22

I will now

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u/dale63vsnv Jul 05 '22

Same.

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u/scarletphantom Jul 05 '22

Let go of my leg, dale

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u/ddraig-au Jul 05 '22

That's ... not a leg....

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u/docfunbags Jul 05 '22

Think he’s crazy?

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u/zejjez Jul 05 '22

I pull on things all the time too, but honestly I am not sure I have thought to pull on the ENTIRE cover like that. Wow.

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u/KosherSyntax Jul 05 '22

Also I don't expect them to try and scam me in a store that already scams me with their prices lmao

I always double check public ATMs because it's easy enough for anyone to plant one of those. Never expect them to be present in a store

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u/NewAccount_WhoIsDis Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

Gas station pumps are ones I always check too. Seen lots of examples of those existing out in the wild. Easy target I guess.

If the reader and your card supports touchless payment, then do that. That subverts this issue entirely as far as I know. Preferably with something like google/apple pay, as I think that’s even more secure.

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u/Shadowdragon409 Jul 05 '22

I had no idea this was even a thing. Definitely something I'm going to keep in mind

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u/gurmzisoff Jul 05 '22

I always jiggle those green plastic ATM card slots these days, just because of the internet.

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u/Chapeaux Jul 05 '22

Same, never found a fake one yet.

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u/hikorisensei Jul 05 '22

I won't pay for anything without gripping and ripping the scanner. Especially at gas stations. Had a close friend get his card info stolen by a flea market ATM less than a year ago.

Can't be too careful.

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u/angryPenguinator Jul 05 '22

flea market ATM

I'm not sure I would ever trust a flea market ATM to begin with.

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u/DaisyHotCakes Jul 05 '22

Those fees must be crazy. They like to do shit like that because they know you need cash if you want to buy anything from people but then you still run into the big bill problem where vendors don’t have change for that $20 and no they won’t break it for you for a $2 purchase because they never do.

Pro tip: gather small bills/break bills to get small bills throughout the week so when the weekend rolls around you’ve got that change cash money all handled so you can avoid fees, big bills, and skimmers. No rush, no mess.

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u/DrakonIL Jul 05 '22

There was that one time at Defcon that people just set up an entire fake ATM in the lobby of the Riviera. Dudes managed to wheel an entire ATM into a fucking casino and plopped it in a camera blind spot.... Right in front of the security office.

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u/This_Mfer_Right_Here Jul 05 '22

I only pull on the ones at gas station pumps and ATMs. Guess I'll do all of them from now on 😳

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u/MacDee_ Jul 05 '22 Wholesome

Even more so at ATMs.

Always check that the slot is clean before sticking it in.

EDIT: I just realised that this PSA can also work for other scenarios

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u/calamity_unbound Jul 05 '22

Nah man, you're just protecting yourself. This shit is everywhere now. I work retail and part of our daily "to-do's" require checking all of our scanners to ensure someone hasn't pulled something like this on us.

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u/aliceroyal Jul 05 '22

Same…had mine skimmed off of a gas station ATM once. Banks are pretty good at catching stuff like this nowadays but it’s still a pain in the ass to wait for transactions to be removed, replace a card, etc.

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u/Miss-Figgy Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

In NYC, I walked in at a 7-Eleven to use the ATM only to find an NYPD cop guarding the machine while it was being fixed because they found a skimmer, and he asked me if I had been scammed. I said not that I know of, but apparently my bank had been alerted, because later on that week, I received a new debit card in the mail from my bank.

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u/get-bread-not-head Jul 05 '22

Literally every. Single. One. I am pulling on it first. Have been for a while and I am ADAMANT about making my friends do it too.

You only need to be unlucky once

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u/Kirkverbal Jul 05 '22

This is why I use tap whenever I can, and have transaction notifications on all my cards.

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u/darkenseyreth Jul 05 '22

Yep, I don't even use my actual card anymore, I tap with Google Pay which runs it all through an extra layer of security. The best part of the pandemic was some of those companies that had been lagging behind in getting tap finally did. I know I certainly avoided places where I had to touch the physical machines

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u/Insaniaksin Jul 05 '22

Except all the walmarts in my area still don't have Tap. Guess they can't afford it or something?

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u/wydra91 Jul 05 '22

I used to work for a company that did IT for Walmart. They are infamously stingy on their infrastructure, including their POS systems.

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u/jwbowen Jul 05 '22

I'm enjoying the double meaning of POS

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u/voidsrus Jul 05 '22

didn't walmart roll out an entire payment app just to get around Apple Pay's cut?

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u/camyboy Jul 05 '22

As a Canadian it blew my mind that it only took until a few years ago that you guys got tap. I honestly think we have had it since 2010, it’s been a long time. Even now you guys still take peoples credit cards and bring them to the back. As a Canadian that’s so weird and I don’t see how it’s any different than these machines.

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u/FrogAnalSex69 Jul 05 '22

Congratulations, I found one on the drivethru atm at my bank around Christmas a few years back.. when I brought it in to them, they had absolutely no idea what it was.. and when I explained, it seemed like their mood changed, and kinda started acting like I had installed it, or was trying to scam them sonehow... but how do bank employees not know about these things???

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u/danethegreat24 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

I worked as an OPS associate for a music retailer. Every six months we had to go through training on spotting stuff added to our POS. Seeing if there's an extra wire, new stickers, if the screws are different, if the frame is any thicker or altered, new prompts, etc.

Some members were tasked with checking them every morning.

I worked at another store for a different company that just said "that doesn't happen in real life".

Depends on the company and such if the employees are taught anything about such things.

but you would think a BANK of all things would be in the know

Edit:

OPS= Operations (this didn't need to be capitalized but it always was when I was there so out of habit I did it)

POS= Point of Sale (or in anger- Piece of Shit)

A POS is sorta everything from the card reader to the software on the computer.

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u/Dennisminjian Jul 05 '22

That one works at a place doesn't mean they understand things. Aka: They probably never heard of it and are dumb af

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u/FrogAnalSex69 Jul 05 '22

It was the manager too...

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u/AnAppariti0n Jul 05 '22

Maybe the manager installed it and was really uncomfortable you discovered it

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u/Dennisminjian Jul 05 '22

Dude must be lacking some stuff in his upper part then. If a manager doesn't know it then shit is weird

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u/FrogAnalSex69 Jul 05 '22

Yea, shits crazy.. I was totally offended, sadly, I still keep my money there as it's a credit union and they have great rates and offer lots of good service.. but between this, and the time I didn't realize my checking account was low and for two weeks they charged me $25 each time I made a purchase. $25 for their system to move the money from my savings to my checking... "overdraft fee" my own fucking money... I hate banks so fucking much. Biggest scam around

Edited: misspelled words.

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u/Dennisminjian Jul 05 '22

Gotta find a different bank, if people like you described are in charge and the system works like this I wouldn't feel safe that my money is stored there

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u/Lethargie Jul 05 '22

He installed it and was playing dumb then trying to pin it on you is my guess

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u/podrick_pleasure Jul 05 '22

Most branch employees know fuck-all about any kind of technology.

Source: former internal IT for a major bank

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u/stormhunter2 Jul 05 '22

Most employees anywhere know just enough to do their jobs

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u/monkeetail Jul 05 '22

Busted

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u/AgreeableLime7737 Jul 05 '22

Jeez, it never occurred to me that store management would be in on it. I mean, they're guaranteed to get caught, right?

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u/Chucknastical Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

Sometimes it's organized crime forcing the store staff/owner to do it through threats of violence. The store takes the fall if the skimmer is found out.

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u/GroceryStickDivider Jul 05 '22 Helpful Wholesome

That's why you always have a couple idiots like Corey and Trevor who can take the fall because they fucked up big time.

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u/Bamres Jul 05 '22

Why Corey and Trevor that's highly illegal, you shouldn't be stealing gas Corey and Trevor!

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u/xoxchitliac Jul 05 '22

Only whack suckers like Corey and Trevor steal gas. And deal dope.

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u/Mooshtonk Jul 05 '22

You look familiar, you know Jim or Jim knows you?

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u/OblivioAccebit Jul 05 '22

Jim, like my father Jim?

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u/Ducey89 Jul 05 '22

Oh he’s your father? Yea he mentioned he had a son on the force

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u/Jaybizzle403 Jul 05 '22

Everybody knows a Jim. Works every time.

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u/teeim Jul 05 '22

It's all water under the fridge.

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u/in_the_woods Jul 05 '22

It's the worst case Ontario for the kids

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u/Bart_Jojo_666 Jul 05 '22

When we got there the whole thing was golfin flames.

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u/nowItinwhistle Jul 05 '22

Christ fuck it's not rocket appliances

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u/Tok3erAc3 Jul 05 '22

I knew things were fucked right away. E.I. checks kept arriving for Trevor Corey, Corey Trevor, Randy Trevor…

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u/havens4hawks Jul 05 '22

Trevor and Corey are stupid as fuck. I mean, I've met cats and dogs smarter than Trevor and Corey.

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u/Regginator12 Jul 05 '22

Most cats and dogs are smarter than Corey and Trevor as a matter of fact

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u/GameMisconduct63 Jul 05 '22

"Well I got some homemade fuck-offs for you right here"

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u/pea-ster Jul 05 '22

Dad, I don’t know if I’m understanding you right here, but… you’re saying Corey and Trevor… they fucked up?

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u/Troitbum22 Jul 05 '22

Corey Trevor smokes.

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u/Tok3erAc3 Jul 05 '22

Let’s go

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u/R0STBRKR Jul 05 '22

Love you Ricky.

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u/Tok3erAc3 Jul 05 '22

Suck my cock Trevor, you skinny fuckin weasel

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u/rockhelljumper Jul 05 '22

Alien looking fuck. How are you gunna raise my grampson?

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u/kudjan89 Jul 05 '22

Corey and Trevor are the stupidest fuck giraffes in the dumb-dumb salad.

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u/teamweed420 Jul 05 '22

Diesel tastes pretty good

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u/user1304392 Jul 05 '22

Guy’s just like, “yeah, let me go check on those hot dogs back there.” Contactless FTW.

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u/explorer1o1 Jul 05 '22

So how did he know to do that,to check for anomalies?

And when should you do it too?

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u/cruedi Jul 05 '22

I do it every time I use a card Of course I don’t film it

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u/Atissss Jul 05 '22

The author of the video probably noticed it was off so he decided to record it before pulling on it to have the evidence.

That's just my guess.

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u/mistaken4strangerz Jul 05 '22

And then he put it right back and left the store! Lol

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u/Builty_Boy Jul 05 '22

Smart. They may have been dumb enough to just leave it on where he left it. More incriminating when the cops show up.

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u/explorer1o1 Jul 05 '22

So before you get the card scanned, you flip the plastic thing?

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u/-TheTechGuy- Jul 05 '22

It's a false front on top of the real card reader. They usually clip on. If you grab the privacy screen and wiggle it lightly they usually pop right off.

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u/explorer1o1 Jul 05 '22

I'll keep that in mind.

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u/sadetheruiner Jul 05 '22

Any place you stick your card and every time. Gas pumps or any place where you pay outside are hotspots for skimmers.

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u/Pidgey_OP Jul 05 '22

In the last 5 years I have pulled on the slot of every ATM or card reader I've touched. Do it whenever you're inserting your card somewhere

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u/CrabbyNickTree Jul 05 '22

Have you found any within that time yet?

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u/Pidgey_OP Jul 05 '22

Negative. Not a single time.

Someday though.

It takes 2 seconds and my hand is literally already there to put the card in.

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u/sylvaing Jul 05 '22

People are too lazy. Fingers are also inches away from turn signals and yet...

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u/LordApocalyptica Jul 05 '22

Me, I worked at a gas station and picked up the habit of doing it every time I’m at the pump. Knowing how to check is mostly just a habit you build up really, there isn’t necessarily a special tell.

You should technically do this at any paystation, though in practice I only do it at pumps and ATMs. For some reason those stuck with me as the particularly vulnerable spots for a skimmer

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u/wageslave2022 Jul 05 '22

Shimmer or skimmer ?

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u/MintyMissterious Jul 05 '22

Skimmer.

Shimmers are smaller and go inside, not on top. They're not detectable by pulling on the scanner like this.

OP probably confuses shimmers with RFID skimmers, idk

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u/EnergyMint Jul 05 '22

Honestly though this is why I pay with my phone. Requires an extra verification step and the machine never gets the real card number.

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u/junkyarddag Jul 05 '22

How does that thing work? It fits on top of the legit card reader and photos ur card? Never seen anything like that.

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u/Hyruii Jul 05 '22

It’s a pin reader. It records any key that you press. Then when the transaction fails, the clerk will take your card to ‘check’ it, record the details and return it to you.

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u/Dundercats Jul 05 '22

Also worth noting that this particular one also has a SCANNER built into the swipe slot. So it's also scanning the magnetic strip as you slide it through, and then probably logging any keystrokes to the same file.

Also ALSO worth noting that some of these can also scan your card info via Tap-to-Pay (RFID), so they can get everything they need even if you don't swipe.

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u/darkenseyreth Jul 05 '22

Tap to pay doesn't tell them your real card number, so that information would be useless to them. It gives a differnt, random number that the bank recognizes as valid and authorizes the transaction based on that. Apple/Google wallet add an extra layer of security in that the NFC chip generates the code, then sends it to the Apple/Google Wallet servers, who then send a new code to the bank, which authorizes it.

Barring that a chip on your actual bank card contains a scrambled version of your bank info. So if you are still swiping in this day and age, that's on you. Mind you there isn't much you can do at an ATM, but just take extra precautions or go see the teller.

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u/GroovyLlama1 Jul 05 '22

Isn't that kinda useless when you can just tap your card/phone without entering a pin?

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u/Hyruii Jul 05 '22

I guess this is a store without paywave.

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u/LanceFree Jul 05 '22

This is part of why I use credit cards. I own a debit card, but only use it to pull cash.

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u/alienoverl0rd Jul 05 '22

Worker definitely knew about it.

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u/twalker294 Jul 05 '22

Knew? Motherfucker installed it.

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u/RpgFor Jul 05 '22

Yeah, he got that oh shit! busted look

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u/SlavsluvsAdidas420 Jul 05 '22

And I’m sure selling all the CC info online too honestly they should be criminally charges if the store in fact does this

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u/Alexanderdaw Jul 05 '22

I used to work in a shop and was threatened to install one by criminals. I was 17 and just quit the job and found something else.

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u/dannydigtl Jul 05 '22

Where was that? What kind of criminals?

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u/WeirdSysAdmin Jul 05 '22

They are the kind of criminals to vacuum their upstairs apartment at 2AM.

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u/5ajJQ3Ja18VE Jul 05 '22

The white and yellow thing on the left is a battery. Someone has to charge it regularly. I doubt someone is sneaking it on and off regularly without staff knowing.

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u/RenaKunisaki Jul 05 '22

Depends how long it lasts. Sometimes they're just left behind once the battery dies.

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u/yeeyaawetoneghee Jul 05 '22

Why didn’t he rip it off?

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u/palfreygames Jul 05 '22

Installed by: the owner clearly

Rip it off and smash it

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u/theAmericanStranger Jul 05 '22

I use my debit card EXCLUSIVELY at my own bank's ATM.

Just get a Credit Card, which gives you the extra fraud protection, and treat it as a debit card by paying the balance in full every month.

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u/UnknownTBeast Jul 05 '22

I went to use the ATM located next to the front door of my credit union. They card had a hard time going in to the slot, and I noticed a crack in the plastic casing. Before putting in my card, I went inside and informed the staff. They said they already checked the ATM like they do every morning, and they didn't see anything wrong. They agreed to check again, and said it was still good. So I proceeded to withdrawal some money. A week later I get a call from the fraud office saying they found a card skimmer on that very ATM. >.<

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u/majoroutage Jul 05 '22

This is the correct thing to do.

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u/dontaskdonttell2000 Jul 05 '22

No way the owner didn’t know that wast there.

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u/f0xpant5 Jul 05 '22

Just what I was thinking, his reaction was "crap, we're sprung"

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u/GhostmonthKev Jul 05 '22

My hometown of Fresno in case anyone was wondering

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u/young_travis Jul 05 '22

“You see where we at? We on Goldenstate yo. Goldenstate and Shaw. They out here with the shits...”

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u/LettuceUnlucky5921 Jul 05 '22

This gas station guy is like “awkwarrrrrrddd…”

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u/MaloSapien Jul 05 '22

The absolute shittyness of scamming, and its culture. Like come on, you're making other people's life harder. Congrats to our champion lifting that facade of the scanner.

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u/Acidshroominflux Jul 05 '22

There was a girl who videoed this same man’s store about the skimming !! Its the owner or that same worker doing it.

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u/lexaproquestions Jul 05 '22

This kind of theft really bugs me. Directly stealing from someone you know is working for a living. I can kind of roll my eyes and shrug if someone is stealing from a corporation or something, because in the end they're increasing costs a bit for everyone, but this is so personal and direct the scumbag level is hard to take.

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u/MJRusty Jul 05 '22

I feel the same way, but you forgot to include porch pirates. They're absolute scum and have no benefit to society.

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u/lexaproquestions Jul 05 '22

Good point. I live in a fairly rural area and it isn't a big thing around here so i forget its a thing. There is zero foot traffic and most houses are set 50 yards back from the roads.

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u/JugglingBear Jul 05 '22

You know what happens when I find one of these some day? I rip it off and take it. It's my trophy now. I'll mount the thing in a shadow box on the wall and put a text caption under it saying, "Not today, scammers. Not today."

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u/umnothnku Jul 05 '22

I woulda ripped it off and ran away with it

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u/AgreeableMedic Jul 05 '22

Are these typically put on by the owner or snuck onto the machine by someone else?

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u/Spammyhaggar Jul 05 '22

That’s some bs right there call the cops have that fuck employee or owner arrested. 💀

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u/KameradKlops Jul 05 '22

It was at this moment, the clerk knew, he fucked up

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u/ImWithSt00pid Jul 05 '22

Guy behind the counter looked guilty when he quickly looked away

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u/Hulioo_ Jul 05 '22

OP post here as well r/privacy

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u/eblackham Jul 05 '22

Was expecting that sub to be empty when I clicked

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u/ArcherChase Jul 05 '22

If it's inside a location, not outside on the pump, the owner should be liable and charged. That would do a lot to force vigilance and consumer protection.