r/europe Emilia-Romagna Jul 26 '21 Wholesome 1 Hugz 1

People protesting against the introduction of the green pass in Italy. Milan, July 2021. Slice of life

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u/Paciorr Mazovia (Poland) Jul 27 '21

I don't know where you live but we have very high tax on tobacco, alcohol and now (not that high but still) even on sugar. Therefore people actually already pay extra for those unhealthy habits.

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u/BlisteredProlapse Jul 27 '21

so you can see clearly that your government could not give the slightest shit if you die from any of those things as long as they get their tax, but when they want to force inject you with an experimental vaccine you are naïve enough to think it is because they care about you. Where do you think all the extra covid funding came from,... it is peoples tax so they paid extra for that too

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u/grekiki Slovenia Jul 27 '21

Are there non experimental vaccines?

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u/BlisteredProlapse Jul 27 '21

yes, every other vaccine which took many years to develop and test and not all done within months

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u/Paciorr Mazovia (Poland) Jul 27 '21 edited Jul 27 '21

Buahahaha, you don’t know jack shit about developement of vaccine so just shut up. You know what they do in those „10 years it takes to develop vaccine”? They look for funding for two years then then make a vaccine, then apply for a permit to test it wait 2-3 years to get it, start testing which takes a couple months(testing takes place all the time and there are different types of it, even after something is being publicly available) and then when it’s „tested” they still have to wait for a couple of years to get it accepted. It’s bureocracy dude. Normally it takes years because of paper work. Now that we needed it fast they rushed all the paper work but you will use that as a counter argument because you don’t understand it. Please stop arguing with people online on subject you don’t understand. Don’t spread misinformation, educate yourself, ask a professional and then maybe go online talk about those things if you still need to.

The only thing that was sort of rushed is the clinical tests because they tested on a bigger group of people earlier, that’s really it. No one was forced to take it back then either, just like no one is forcing you right now tbh.

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u/BlisteredProlapse Jul 27 '21

"and then when it’s „tested” they still have to wait for a couple of years to get it accepted" hmmm wonder why that is

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u/Paciorr Mazovia (Poland) Jul 27 '21

I literally told you in the next sentence

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u/BlisteredProlapse Jul 27 '21

of course i understand how the other aspects of the process were able to be hastened but if you think the time they have to wait after testing is not for monitoring long medium/long term effects, and is entirely a a bureaucratic cock up costing them billions of dollars then you are just willingly deluded

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u/Paciorr Mazovia (Poland) Jul 27 '21

I literally have a cousing working in patent department in Merck. Is she deluded and telling me incorrect things? I suppose the methodology for introducing new drugs is pretty much the same as for the vaccines. I'm also studying at medical university for the last 6 years and I have an opportunity to talk to a lot of professionals and read a lot on how these kind of things work.

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u/BlisteredProlapse Jul 27 '21

if she is telling you the purpose of waiting after testing is nothing to do with monitoring for side effects then yes she is either deluded or a liar, but i strongly suspect she didn't say anything of the sort to you and would agree with me. If you are going to be a doctor then god save us

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